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Paxie55:
Whatever!!
Suit yourself.

Your dogs can't live under brown roof but your people are all over Yoruba cities pushing wheel Barrows, Hawking Gala and meat pie


The Joke is on you

Paxie55:
For your information, Igbos only go to Lagos not SW.
Lagos was built with ND money. So, stfu.

Go to Osogbo and see your brothers pushing their Wheel Barrows with Passion


Every Yoruba city is a Lagos to hungry IPOB youth


Igbo are all over Yoruba States and cities in mass


Most of you ran away from your curse region before hunger kill you

Olumyco:
What you said here is strong ooo. How can someone be bearing a name of a tribe (Surname and First name) and also speak the language and yet he is not from the tribe? That is somehow.

See get this right. Migration is a normal thing in the past. People migrate for different reasons and that is why we have different tribes scatters all over the place. Now when a tribe migrates and settle in another tribe's territory and looses her language, name and culture how will they claim the their original tribe. Then get this about history if not for documentation how will many of knows the origin of tribes. So the present matters alot so is history. History is good for a tribe who migrates and still speak their language and practice their culture. I dont think any tribe migrate like the hausa in west Africa. Hausa are in many country. They speak their language and practice their culture. I dont know if you understand these things.

Having English name and speaking English Language doesn't make you English or does it?


Apoi are Ijaw

ElsonMorali:
What is the meaning of Sowore and Omoyele in Ijaw language?

Having Yoruba names or speaking Yoruba doesn't make you Yoruba

Just like having English name and speaking English does not make you English

LegoMetahuman:
so if apoi territory is in ondo?

is ondo ijaw state?

Ondo is not an Ijaw state but Ijaw have Lands in Ondo state

LegoMetahuman:
now your fart brain is starting to get it.


that's why oduduwa is a legend. because no one can really say oduduwa is real or not. just a legend told from generation to generation to solidify yoruba unity.
yorubas migrated from everywhere to current yoruba territory in nigeria, and they have also migrated from here to other countries like benin republic.



like i said
my arguement was based on terriority not where they migrated from.


their ancesteral land is in yoruba land. simple as abc.


now run along.

Their ancestral Land might be in Ondo but it doesn't make it Yoruba territory and it doesn't make it Yoruba Land because they are not Yoruba


Sowore biography says Ijaw and people should take him as that

Apoi are not Yoruba


It is just like calling Ijaw living in Benin, Benin people

They are different and that is it

LegoMetahuman:
[s][/s]ediot

the wikipedia was written by people who also believe in obatala and oduduwa legend.
oduduwa is a symbol of unity.
and it is what it is.. A legend.
just like some white people believe they are descendants of Adam and eve.

wikipedia is not a sound link for your history you mor0n. it can be ediited by anybody.


the story of ijebu people migrating from sudan was told awujale himself..



they migrated from ijaw, yet they dont bear ijaw names or have anything that tied them to ijaws.
just like ijebus migrated from sudan but donot have anything that tie them with the Sudanese.


by the way, my arguement was based on terriority not where they migrated from.


their ancesteral land is in yoruba land. simple as abc.

Ooni of Ife also said Oduduwa migrated from Mecca

Ooni of ife also said Google is Ifa

Apoi territory in Ondo is not Yoruba Land

Speaking Yoruba Language and having Yoruba names doesn't make them Yoruba and will never make them Yoruba

LegoMetahuman:
[s][/s]ediot

the wikipedia was written by people who also people in obatala and oduduwa legend.
and it is what it is.. A legend.
just like some white people believe they are descendants of Adam and eve.

wikipedia is not a sound link for your history you mor0n. it can be ediited by anybody.


the story of ijebu people migrating from sudan was told awujale himself..

Shut the fucckk up


Even Ooni said Oduduwa migrated from Mecca

And Ooni once said Google is Ifa


It was Ijaw that was written on Sowore Biography but you guys want people to take him as Yoruba? For what exactly?

Olumyco:
KingOdart is not that you are not passing a point about Sowore's Origin but you are not passing it correctly. There are lots of migrations here and there in the past and when that happens, two things are bound to happen. Is either the tribe that migrated preserves their language and culture or loose it to where they migrated to.

Now in the case of Apoi and Arogbo they lost their culture and language to that of the Yorubas and with this they are Yorubas. If we decided to go back to history then we can say they are Ijaws. Had it been they did not loose their culture and language then we can say they are Ijaws in Yoruba land. Someone is bearing Omoyele Sowore, speaks Yoruba and so on how will he claim Ijaw perfectly. He can only do that by history. Let me tell you this....your tribe is as strong as your culture and language. Let we Yorubas stop speaking our language and practicing our culture and see if the tribe will survive. So get this. Ibos have been moving from places to places in Nigeria but they still practice their culture and speak their language and give Igbo names to their children.

For your information, the Ga and Dangbe tribe in Ghana migrated from Ile Ife in Nigeria. They dont speak Yoruba. They speak their own language... only God knows how they got that. Now can we claim they are Nigerians? No. By origin based on history they are like Yorubas but there is nothing to show for it. Same with The Apoi and Arogbo people. I accept your claim of Sowore based on his history but in reality based on what is present, he is a Yoruba man.

The Kwara and Kogi territory you brought out.... that demarcation is by the Nigeria Govt. The Yoruba didn't migrate there as a group of Yorubas. So the part where they speak Yoruba is part of Yoruba territory.

Fulanis in Kwara cant even speak Fulfide, they speak Yoruba. They are only trying to retain their name and the religion is what is doing this.

So in short to settle everything, Sowore only has a line connected to Ijaw which is origin by history. He has three lines connected to Yoruba. Number One, he bears Yoruba names. Two, he speaks Yoruba. Three, his tribe is in Yoruba land. Weighing the these, his connection to Yoruba is higher than Ijaw.
Simple as ABC.

In this case you can not remove History, because history is part of what define us as people

But how come Apoi and Arogbo are listed as part of Ijaw people and not Yoruba?

It is now possible to belong to two ethnic groups?

Apoi and Arogbo have never been listed as part of Yoruba


It was Ijaw that was written on his Wikipedia page not Yoruba, so he is an Ijaw man

LegoMetahuman:
[s][/s]lemme know when you are ready to stop sounding like broken record.
cos this will be my last quote to you before you infect me with stupidity.

ii'm sure people with brain already picked one or two things.

and is there a binding document that says kwara belongs to fulani?
would yorubas in kwara join fulanis todays if there is referendum?
which territory is fulani holding today kwara?
is current emir by the name of alhaji ibrahim kolapo also a fulani?




perhaps some ijebus who claimed to have migrated from sudan means they are not yorubas.

https://www.nairaland.com/3378902/yorubas-ijebu-descendents-north-sudans



ife and modakeke clashed around 2000-2001

what does it have to do with anything?

Absolute balderdash


You are just a Shlthead, I am talking about Ilorin.. You keep repeating Kwara as a Whole

If Emir of Ilorin is a Yoruba then why is he still Emir instead of Oba and also with an allegiance to Sokoto caliphate?

Ijebu still traced their root to Ile ife

Even Oduduwa still have connection with Mecca, Nubia and it is also the case of Ijebu people

If Apoi are Yoruba people because they are now in Ondo then why are they listed as part of Ijaw and not Yoruba?

I am done arguing with a numbskull

LegoMetahuman:
now that i have schooled your stupid head.

lemme put this one to rest too.

same reason kwara can join whoever they want is the same reason ijebu can join sudan or iseyin people can join benin republic if they want.

so you see, you are stuppidd schmuck.

take the lesson learnt today and store it in your thick oblongata.

you are welcome.

Empty skull think he got something upstairs


Stupidity of the highest order from a Numbskull that think he know things

LegoMetahuman:
yeah and kwara people will decide to join hausas in the north abi?


you are very very very foolish.

i say this with utmost concern for people around you.

It is only kwara people that can decide through referendum not by force

empty headed man calling someone foolish

LegoMetahuman:
facepalm


so the british owns the entire western europe right?

if nigeria breaks today, kwara will join north?

im done explaining simple things to dumb people.

Dumb ass calling someone dumb, what an Irony


If Nigeria break today people will only join where they want to Join, empty skull

LegoMetahuman:
[s][/s] your ediocy is legendary.
calling what i said balderdash is your gentleman of way countering post abi?

what a m0ron.

it looks like you are more stupiid than i thought.

even after explaining in simple term how Territory is different from region, this shit-head still went ahead and asked me stupid question.

is kwara a fulani territory?

so why would kwarans be fulani you dumbfuck?

Dumb ass calling someone dumfuck

If you are not so dull you would have known that territory is also synonymous to region, empty skull

What is the definition of Territory?

If you don't know and you are ignorant, having Fulani emir in Ilorin mean it is a Fulani territory and I am not talking about Kwara but Ilorin, but you numbskull have to changed it to kwara

Anywhere with a Fulani ruler or king means it is a Fulani territory according to territory definition

And since Yoruba is only by territory according to you

Hausa should now be regarded as Fulani and Yoruba in Ilorin should now be regarded as Fulani

Your brain is more empty than I thought

LegoMetahuman:
olodo nie

this is why we ask people to take comprehension seriously in schools.

this one doesnt even know the difference between region and territory but wants to discuss about how tribe works.

so south west region is same as yoruba Territory?


we call english people and people from western europe westerners, does that mean all western europe is british territory.


yoruba territory span across south west all the way to north central region you ediot.

Look at this Olodo calling someone Olodo

You know nothing but you are acting like Mr know it all


Territory is also a synonyms for region

LegoMetahuman:
olodo nie

this is why we ask people to take comprehension seriously in schools.

this one doesnt even know the difference between region and territory but wants to discuss about how tribe works.

so south west region is same as yoruba Territory?


we call english people and people from western europe westerners, does that mean all western europe is british territory.


yoruba territory span across south west all the way to north central region you ediot.

You are the ediot here

Look at this buffoon throwing tantrums

I was even arguing with you like a gentleman, it is very obvious you are one of the bastards in South West that is claiming Yoruba


According to your warp logic

Yoruba in Ilorin are Fulani because afterall they have Fulani emir?

And all Hausa in the North are now Fulani because after all they are being rule by Fulani?

NinjaMetahuman:
Obatala ko, orunmila ni.

oduduwa is more or less a symbol of yoruba unity.

What we call yorubas today is mostly territorial. People who have inter married, and mixed a lot that you can"t separate them anymore. We speak one language with different dialect as a means of identity.

Yorubas alone contain more 30 tribes who at some point migrated from somewhere. and we have migrated to places like benin republic. And yes, eguns identify themselves as yorubas.

If I may ask, which obatala did akoko people migrated from or they are not yorubas too?
What about the aworis?



Now back to sowore,
Apoi tribe are yorubas by territory. How is that hard to understand?

Look at itsekiri for example, despite the fact that they bear yoruba names and speak mixed yoruba, do you know why yorubas don't call them yoruba?
Simple, they are not in yoruba territory.
I'm sure they would be yorubas automatically if they are in ogun or ekiti.
.

Akoko people trace their origin to Ile Ife which make them Yoruba

Being Yoruba is not by territory or else people in Kogi, Kwara, Brazil, Cuba, Benin Republic and others that traced their origin to Ile ife would not be Yoruba

NinjaMetahuman:
kingodart

Answer this.

You are just ignorant or living in obvious denial

Having Yoruba name doesn't make him Yoruba

Tell me why Apoi the tribe he originated from are listed as part of Ijaw if they are Yoruba?

NinjaMetahuman:
Obatala ko, orunmila ni.

oduduwa is more or less a symbol of yoruba unity.

What we call yorubas today is mostly territorial. People who have inter married, and mixed a lot that you can"t separate them anymore. We speak one language with different dialect as a means of identity.

Yorubas alone contain more 30 tribes who at some point migrated from somewhere. and we have migrated to places like benin republic. And yes, eguns identify themselves as yorubas.

If I may ask, which obatala did akoko people migrated from or they are not yorubas too?
What about the aworis?



Now back to sowore,
Apoi tribe are yorubas by territory. How is that hard to understand?

Look at itsekiri for example, despite the fact that they bear yoruba names and speak mixed yoruba, do you know why yorubas don't call them yoruba?
Simple, they are not in yoruba territory.
I'm sure they would be yorubas automatically if they are in ogun or ekiti.
.

Kogi and kwara people are regard as Yoruba so tell me why they are regard as Yoruba

People in far away Brazil and Cuba are regard as Yoruba so tell me why they are regard as Yoruba? ?

Egun have never claim Yoruba


Even the part of Benin Republic that are Yoruba traced their Origin to Ile ife

NinjaMetahuman:
Obatala ko, orunmila ni.

oduduwa is more or less a symbol of yoruba unity.

What we call yorubas today is mostly territorial. People who have inter married, and mixed a lot that you can"t separate them anymore. We speak one language with different dialect as a means of identity.

Yorubas alone contain more 30 tribes who at some point migrated from somewhere. and we have migrated to places like benin republic. And yes, eguns identify themselves as yorubas.

If I may ask, which obatala did akoko people migrated from or they are not yorubas too?
What about the aworis?



Now back to sowore,
Apoi tribe are yorubas by territory. How is that hard to understand?

Look at itsekiri for example, despite the fact that they bear yoruba names and speak mixed yoruba, do you know why yorubas don't call them yoruba?
Simple, they are not in yoruba territory.
I'm sure they would be yorubas automatically if they are in ogun or ekiti.
.

What you wrote above is absolutely balderdash

The fact that you discarded my point prove that what you wrote is absolutely trash

If it is by territory as you claimed then it means Yoruba in Kogi and Kwara state are not Yoruba because they are not in South West territory

The same part of Ijaw people in Ondo clashed with Ilaje Yoruba in Ondo because of lands, they have never for once claim Yoruba and they are listed as part of Ijaw not Yoruba

The reason why People don't regard itshekiri as Yoruba is because Itshekiri have chose to preserve their identity and they want it that way

People in far away Kogi are regard as Yoruba not to even talk of itshekiri if they want to be regard as Yoruba

Territory ko, territorial no

Igbo right now

Ugosample:
I actually don't live in Lagos atm
But I was born and raised in Lagos and I consider Lagos as home

The govt has to do better

Lagos population is too much many Nigerians need to be deport from Lagos by force

Pato5:
My pain about this traffic is that it's a problem that can be solved but stakeholders (government and populace) chose to do nothing.

People problem: obey basic rules of driving for Pete's sake. Drive only on ur right of way only.

Government problem: fix potholes: there is this big ditch that constrains cars to one at a time causing gridlock on the way to marina.
Open up other means of transportation (waterways and light rail) thereby greatly decongest the roads.

If we can get this right in Lagos then our life expectancy will improve. Everyday I feel my health is deteriorating after work.

Even if all these are done

It will never get better because Lagos Population would also skyrocket

The best solution it to develop other state

Ugosample:
what does your silly comment have to do with what he said?

the stress is too too much in Lagos

that's the fact

Move out of Lagos to a better place

It is not by force to live in Lagos

ChristianEast:
So you guys have denied him now abi? Yoruba people are really great in deed.

No denial here, I am just stating fact

NinjaMetahuman:
are eguns yorubas?

Are aworis yorubas?

Are ijebus yorubas?

Are oyo people yoruba?

What makes you yoruba?

To be Yoruba you must be descendants of Obatala or Oduduwa in Ile ife

Egun people are not Yoruba and they have never claim to be Yoruba

Egun people migrated from Benin Republic

Out of all the tribe you listed only Egun are not Yoruba


Apoi tribe where Sowore Originated from have always been listed as part of Ijaw people not Yoruba

Wouldn't it be stupidity and obvious denial to state otherwise?

NinjaMetahuman:
who cares?
As long as sowore is from ondo ( a yoruba territory) and bears yoruba name, he is yoruba to me.
Not like he was born in delta and migrated to ondo.



why do you have problem with the protest being tagged yoruba revolution?
Its not like sowore committed any crime that we don't want him to be tagged with us.



We are not cowards that carried a coup, benefitted immensely from the coup, and suddenly deny their brother in arm that carried out the coup when shiit hit the fan.

You can say you don't care, that is you

But Sowore is an Ijaw that is a fact


Sowore is not a Yoruba man

NinjaMetahuman:
dude,

Shut the Bleep up.

Has sowore come out to tell you he is not yoruba?

In his statement last year at the Arogbo Ijaw king's palace

He called himself Ijaw not Yoruba

It is Ijaw that was written on his Wikipedia page not Yoruba

So you are the one that need to shut the Bleep up!

Naijafull19:
Atiku has been Nigerian since Jada voted to remain in Nigeria in 1961...in a UN sponsored vote.

Prior to that, it was run as part of Nigeria as a Trust Territory, when the old German colony of Kamerun was divided up between the Brtis and French in 1918.

So, he is a Nigerian.

It can still be disputed


Leave that to the Judge to decide

The people are hell Bent on Killing each other