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Well Done Builder and the rest. I love your research.

I still wonder how some Nigerians think.

Where did some people get the information that Libyans started any peaceful demonstration and Ghadaffi started killing them? Was it not the rebels that came in with arms and ammunition, calling for the removal of Ghaddafi?

Our president was just too quick to act. I still wonder what gave him the courage.

Was it because Ban Ki Moon or Sarkozy paid him a courtesy call on their way from the swearing in ceremony of their anointed Alhasan Ouatarra  in Cote d'ivoire?

Many Nigerians are yet to wake up. I pray they do before it is too late.
I also pray that that stupid decision would not have a side effect on Nigeria.

To be frank, Ghadaffi's removal and the rise of rebels are uncalled for.

Just as Eve was deceived by the Serpent in the Garden of Eden, where the serpent told her that if she ate the forbidden fruit, she would become like God. So, the west has deceived some of Libya’s gullible citizens to believe that the ousting of Ghadaffi would amount to a better life for them.
But unfortunately, Eve only realized she was stark naked after eating the fruit and started looking for leaves to cover her unclothedness. That means the grace of God that was covering her unclothedness was taken away just by biting a fruit. Libyans too will realize how naked they are when all this drama is over and they would seek anything to cover their shame. But it will be too late.
Eve went ahead to deceive Adam into committing the same mistake and he also fell for it. Libyans will try and convince any other gullible nation that they did the right thing and also encourage them to follow suit by campaigning for democracy (i.e. becoming a mouthpiece for America); just like Nigeria; a nation that does not know where it is coming from or where it is going. Nigeria that is yet to get its bearing right is also campaigning for democracy in Libya. But woes betide any nation that would take such advice.
When Buhari lost his court case against Obasanjo in 2007, he accused Obj of “Raping Democracy”.
Recently, Michail Goberchev of Russia accused President Vladimir Putin of Russia of “Castrating Democracy”.
The fact remains that, Democracy is nothing but a failure. Even America can never ever practice true democracy. Unfortunately, America has succeeded in brainwashing people, especially Africans that it is the best system of government. What a pity!!!
Lessons for Libya:- 
1. Better is a dry morsel with quietness, than a house of feasting with strife (Prov. 17:1)
2. Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, than a fatted calf with hatred (Prov. 15:17)

emmatok:
Tell them .

Can you imagine this lazy and currupt Nigerians come here supporting Gaddafi.

The-same Gaddafi the wants Africa to be one country so that he can rule them the way he likes.

For those of you, shouting western this and that, tall me one successful African country without western backing.

Do you know the meaning of the New World Order? Whose idea is it? Ghadaffi's
Why are you not condemning the EU?
Please Show me one successful African Country??

cap28:
so many fools on this thread talking complete sh.it - fools who are living in a cess pit country whose leaders have never and will never provide one zillionth of what gaddaffi provided for his own people.

we now live in a world where evil prevails, we now live in a world where a criminal organisation - north atlantic terrorist organisation (NATO) can invade a sovereign state, kill thousands of innocent civillians under the pretext of protecting civillians, bomb the country to smithereens , support brutal satanic murderers and then move in and STEAL RIGHT FROM UNDER THE NOSES OF THE ENTIRE WORLD the natural resources of a sovereign nation, stu.pid africans open your dumb eyes - you are next - this is just the beginning of the recolonisation project of africa AKA africom.

God Bless You real good!!!

Fimmy:
one thing that i dont get right is the fact the people keeps saying Gaddafi killed his people,  please is there any real evidence to support this??

Well done!! Only a fool brainwashed by the west would believe such craps.

I listened to the live speech of Cameron today as well as the head of TNC. They were both saying that the "rebels should respect the rights of the Libyan people". So who are the rebels and who are the Libyan people??
Why the contradiction

Thank you Mr All for Naija.

Your Question on how Ghadaffi came into power answers itself.

Who are those sponsoring coups in Africa? Are they not white?

If you doubt me, Please tell me why they have been silent for 42 years on a tyrant and even giving him every support? Why are they allowing Ghadaffi & co to invest billions of their stolen wealth in their countries?

They are all rogues!

Mind you. Only a fool would allow a thief to help him repair the faulty door of his house. Africans should wake up.

Don't they disagree in the west among themselves?? Tell me when a foreigner is allowed to interfere into their matter.

But because they know an average African is a "hungry dog"; who would rush at any trash tossed at it, and to cap it all; he does not think deeply of future consequences; they arm him with guns and ammunition to kill his fellow brother and disestablish the "manageable peace" in his homeland, promising him juicy position in government.

I ask you. Can this happen in a white man's land.

Imagine it happens in your homeland. Would you be saying this? Would you commend NATO and rebels when innocent people are dying in their hands because of your president who will not leave power?

@ milehigh06

It is very very unfortunate that someone like you is calling Ghadaffi's supporters assholes.
But you know what? I think you need to think deeper because the white man sees you as nothing but an asshole.

Have you ever sat down to think why thousands must die because of one man? I don't think so.
With all the intelligence that the west brags of; it cannot use it to take Ghadaffi out of power without shedding innocent blood.

And by the way, who told you that the rebels are the people of libya? Do not be fooled my friend.

You are a Black Man Indeed!!!!

Ghadaffi is nothing but a hero. Take it or leave it.

Nigerians Can Really be Gullible.
How can any well meaning Nigerian support such a move?
In fact I am really surprised.

Kudos to all who stand against injustice!

Thank you.
I do not think anyone should hastily jump into any conclusion hastily.
During cross-examinations; other evidences might be released, thereby getting closer to the answer.
I know the court cannot be that daft to admit those evidences when it had been briefed of their contents.
We must also note IBB's call for his release immediately preceding those claims.
Everyone should be vigilant.
Things are not really what they are on the surface. Nigeria can be full of surprises.

Let's keep our fingers crossed till monday. Because I know that those evidences are just a tip off the iceberg. Al mustapha is definitely driving at something. But where that thing is, no one knows. Time will surely tell.

wetu:
Football stars are also called football idols. Why? Because they are idols in many children and adults' hearts. They are gods of this world. Now listen:

Deu 13:1  If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
Deu 13:2  And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;


There are two types of false prophets:
1. Those whose prophecies do not come to pass
2. Those whose prophecies come to pass but direct people to other gods and other things and not the Lord Jesus Christ

When a prophet prophesies about results of soccer games, he is pointing people to other gods.
When a prophet prophesies about hollywood stars, he is pointing people to other gods.


Deu 13:3  Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.


A prophet who prophesies about soccer results and Michael Jackson must be put to death (In the New Testament, the sword is the Word of God):

Deu 13:5  And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God

Sorry Oga.
Your definition of "other gods" is definitely of poor judgement. I agree people worship football and human beings. But whether it is entertainment or politics; the world consists all; and the world would be meaningless without them. Can you say you have no interest AT ALL in football or other means of entertainment?

I'm sure you would have called Jesus many names, if you lived in his lifetime. For the bible says Jesus was criticized by some Men of God because prostitutes, tax collectors and other terrible people sit around him to hear him.

Are Daniel and John the Beloved's prophesying about events only in christendom?
NO! It is all about the world and everything in it.

So please criticize well.

Whether this story is true or not, All I know is that last year on AIT; Mitchel Obi, a sports presenter came across Yekini in Ibadan, living in a sad condition. He even said Yekini did not want to caught on camera, so he had to tell the cameraman to back off, while he interacted with him.
So, the secret coverage made by the cameraman was shown.
I can say the guy is not in good condition and he really needs help.

This country is just getting nearer to division, & those dat called Ghadafi a madman will discover how mad they are. May God console d berievd families & heal evry wound.

@ Poster.

Dear Mr Play writer,

You forgot to end your fairy Tale the usual way:,  and they lived happily ever after

I know you are to shallow minded to understand the Song of Songs javascript:void(0);ngs.

You people will never mind your business and face your enormous problem of ignorance and gullibility!!!

Indeed! A world without you people is a peaceful world. Nonsense!!!

Dolemite:
Incase you haven't noticed sherlock i'm an atheist thank God, former Christian for 18 years so i know when someone is bullshitting with the GOD DAMNED bible.

Good!!! So, please keep off christian matters. I don't see why an atheist ( a fool who says there's no God) be so concerned with christian matters.

Remember! wise sayings are too difficult for a fool to understand!!!

Dolemite:
Don't twist the God damned bible!! Paul said test their SPIRIT not prophecy!!
"Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. . . ." (1 John 4:1-4)
And what is it that you THINK i'm missing?. . .

Please, Never you call The Holy Bible God damned!!!

I see you dont have respect for the word of God, So how much more a prophecy and how much a servant of God

Sorry Oga, But what he just said is a prophesy, and not competition!
It happened in the U.S in 2007 involving men of God.

udezue:
Proper taste of their own medicine. The Berom and xtians have learned and perfected the art of communal warfare thanx to the Hausa muslims who for years used it to subjugate others. Karma is BITCHH.

Welldone Udezie!!! U got the gist better!

marvelck:
Everybody is just blaming the hausa muslims and politicians for all the crisis in Jos-Plateau State. Nobody is thinking why all of this is happening. Nobody is blaming it on the sins in the land. for Jos has become a land with so much immoralities. a land where virtually everybody is sleeping with everybody. where all the guys are sleeping with all the girls and vice-versa. and where women (even married women) sleeps around with men and vice-versa. and where there's so much wickedness in the land, and deception in churches and the increasing rate in the practice of money rituals by many.a land where people just go to church as part of tradition/normal sunday routine, and not for salvation.where majority of the churches are mere buildings full of deception and fake believers and not houses of GOD. Jos has become a land full of immoralities. everybody need to think. because everybody is involved.

Thank you for the rhetoric!
Is Jos the only place where all those things take place?If that is the case, then all nigerian states are guilty.
Pls think well!

Ganjaseed:
This is rubbish !!! Read the Bible and see how God communicate with his prophets and compare it with this one posted. God speaks clearly more than this, the message of God has no complication attached to it. If you read your bible very well you will see that prophets of old will usually declare that "it shall come to pass,  and if you read further you will see "and it came to pass, " I see this more of guessing and manifestation of a familiar spirit. If God spoke to him truly he would have known the full name of where this incident is going to take place.

It is absolutely of no use to God and man giving a message to a man in another continent of such disaster that should take place in different continent, does it mean that there are no man of God in that continent?

T.B Joshua always make this kind of statements and people are rejoicing over it that he is indeed a prophet God, of what use has his prophecy been to mankind, what happen to his prayers then if he actually prayed for those disasters that he forsees? yet they happened.

My conclusion is that he got these informations from their covens, they may look "OK" but I tell you folks THIS IS NOT GOD SPEAKING.

Mr Ganjaseed, Pls read your Bible very well. Even Jesus the son of God spoke in parables. Daniel saw revelations from God in Parables too. So was John the beloved.
What pre-information can u find on such an event as Fort Hood? Pls tell us.
Don't be like the men in the days of Noah, who never saw God speaking through Noah, until the great flood came. When the Son of Man shall return; will he still find faith on earth?

noetic15:
why do we keep hearing of these prophecies after the events. . . why not before the events?  

Mr Noetic, Pls i do not understand your argument. Did you watch Emmanuel TV earlier than the date. I'm sure your answer is NO!
Pls have proofs before you criticize.
Please let us stop fashioning the way we want God to work. That is the problem of modern christians.

mayrho:
Oga my own bone of contention is why wasn't it made public before the guy died why after.
it looks smells like something sh***

Thank you mayrho.
The fact is this: Prophecies about "someone is going to die" is a very sensitive one. Now think about this; if TBJ had said so in a direct manner, the same Nigerians condemning him today would have done worse, by simply saying something like "TBJ is only looking for cheap fame", perhaps "forcing" Michael to pay a visit to his church.

I can tell you of some prophets of doom we used to have in Nigeria in the late eighties and early nineties, who always prophesied death to VIPs and great politicians, even to the point of mentioning their names. But their prophecies did not come to pass.
So what were they looking for? Cheap Fame, money and more members to their church.
Where are those prophets of doom today? Long forgotten! Gone, ! I'm even surprised that some of them are still in Nigeria. I used to think they have relocated.

You see; A good christian does not open his mouth to destroy; but to build. Jesus said "I am sending you out as sheep among wolves. Therefore, BE YE AS WISE as a serpent and as HARMLESS AS A DOVE." This explains why Jesus spoke in parables.
When such a revelation comes, God that reveals it expects the person shown to be wise in handling it; and not use it to command worship.

Pls note this: The world is full of good and evil. Jesus said ", everyday is full of its own evil." That is why he added ", and deliver us from all evil, " to the Lord's prayer.

The prophecy given by TBJ in January about Michael is just as it has happened now. Listen to it very well.

Or what do we need to say about the prophecy of the capturing of the Tamil Tiger rebel leader in Sri Lanka this year given by TBJ? Is it not exactly as he said?

Prophecies are just like wise sayings in a deep well.
And like King Solomon said in the book of proverbs "only a man with wisdom and understanding can draw them out" he also said " wise sayings are too deep for a fool to understand."
So i'm never surprised that people despise prophecies
Na so life be!!!

God bless Abuzola & Tudor!!!

They are both a confirmation to the prophecy of Jesus too; when He said that the second coming of Him (Jesus), would be just like the days of Noah. Noah built an ark and told people of the coming danger of a great flood (a prophecy), urging them to enter the ark. But the people called him 'mad'; 'crazy'; 'insane' etc. They even questioned his reason for buliding an ark far away from the sea and they went on with their merriment.
But suddenly, the day came and the same people came to the ark, begging Noah to open. But it was too late; for God Himself had closed the door of the ark.
The people simply perished because the "Prince of the world" had blinded their eyes, thereby preventing them from seeing spiritual things.

I pray that your cases would not be like that.

Please & Please, Be Warned: whosoever cannot help to spread the good news about the kingdom of God, is only hindering the advancement of His kingdom here on earth and whosoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven whether in this world, or in the world to come.

Jesus also said every idle word spoken by anyone shall be accounted for on the judgement day.

                                  Therefore Beware!!!

God Bless you "mikeapollo" and "naijanow". I thought I was the only one thinking that way about the picture and the testimony of Agomoh and Bisola.

Mr Purefact, for your information, TBJ's wife is always at the church as an active member with the rest of the church workers and not seated in the "high place" like many of our Pastors (Mrs) do. Some tourists even posted a picture they took with her at the old church premises on the internet, describing her as lovely and active. There is a lot to learn from that too concerning humility and the participation of women in the church. Kudos to her and her husband!

Thank God He gave every man brain to discern for himself or else, one would have been like a cow that follows the rest wherever they are heading to; even if na for the mouth of an on-coming vehicle.

May god have mercy on all of us.

Thank God, Somebody is answering from the church.

May God forgive you for the Bloody lie too, I'm not a church member!!!

You are telling a bloody lie, about sister Martha, may God forgive you for that lies,

I say a BIG AMEN to that!!!
Honestly I put that as a test to you just to be sure that you really listened to the testimony very well; and I must commend you; you are an excellent investigator. Please no offence was intended.

What she said with her mouth is that, the fraud stars whom she met while trying to get intouch with TBJ through the church Telephone numbers,

Are you trying to say a telephone line cannot be buggled?

sent her a copy of a VHS that contained clips of her and her daughter, when she came to the Cenimagoogle(Synagogue), in year 2003, for a prayer session with TBJ.

Is there anything Fraudsters cannot do At least Jesus said that in the last days, a man's enemy will be in his household.


And come to think of it, if she had HIV, dont the church have healing anymore?, Is that why she had to part away with 23,000Australian dollars and the fraud stars faces had to be covered?

Your view has always been that TBJ colluded with some of the fraudsters to dupe sister martha. Come to think of this too, Bisola used to be a worker at the church and she was recently accused by one Mr Akponsen in Washington D.C USA of sending a guy to him in the name of TBJ and he gave the guy US$2000 to give to TBJ (for the ministry) and two expensive suits for TBJ (a gift), besides that, the guy was also given his own gifts. But none got to TBJ. He later called TBJ to confirm and he was told that Bisola had left the ministry before the event.
Mind you, these fraudsters were arrested by the police, handcuffed & brought to the synagogue while they are yet to be convicted by a court of competent jurisdiction (Rule of Law).That was why their faces had to be covered. In case you are still not clear, go and ask NTA the same question.

And where did Jesus Christ saw sick people and did not pray for them,
is what I dont have in my Bible, read :
Mathew 9:35
And Jesus went about all the cities and villages teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.

Thanks 4 the quotation. This verse is summarizing the events of Jesus' ministry.

Please quote the verse in the Bible where Jesus christ passed any one who was sick and did not heal him or her.

Please check your Bible very well in the book of John 5: 1-3. He healed ONLY ONE MAN that had been there for thirty eight years out of the crowd of sick people. What about the rest?
Also see Luke 4:22-25. Jesus told the Jews that they would surely say to him "Phycisian, Heal yourself" i.e. do miracles that you have done elsewhere here in your country. He said many widows were in Israel in the days of Elijah, but Elijah was sent to none except the widow of zarephat. Many lepers were also in Israel in the days of Elisha AND NONE OF THEM WAS CLEANSED but Naaman a Syrian.

The problem here is that you see TBJ as Jesus. But for your information, TBJ IS NOT JESUS CHRIST. He is only a vessel used by God and God does as he pleases and no man can question God. Healing is from God, not TBJ. So if God says yes, who can say no?

Jesus said in that same john 5:1-13 that the Son can do nothing by himself. He does only what he sees the father doing and does it the same way. That He would even raise from the dead ANYONE HE WANTS TO.
Always Remember that in every matter, God has the final say. He does as he pleases. This according to Solomon in Eccl.3:14 is designed by God so that man should fear the All-Powerful God.

God gives no man absolute power to do anything outside His will.
What can you say about Apostle paul whom god gave power to do unusual miracles that even his handkerchief and clothe healed and delivered but paul could not heal himself. He said he asked God to heal him and God said "NO. My grace is sufficient for you.(Acts 19:1-12)

Take these as food for thought!!!

Please note that they first pray for people who had registered and wait for confirmation from God before asking the person to come to the church.

Also note that during the days of Jesus' ministry, there were many lepers, blind, and other people with infirmities in Israel but he healed some.

Remember the blind man Jesus laid his hand on in Bethsaida and the man said he saw people like trees. The bible said Jesus had to take the man out of the town before the healing was complete.

Does that mean Jesus was not powerful enough to heal?

NO!!!

Jesus did all things as led by the Spirit.

Always note that there is time for everything under the sun. This includes a time to be healed.

Purefact, please note that sister Martha had HIV and had not been to Nigeria to be prayed for but she contacted the fraudsters online, who had buggled the telephone line of the synagogue.

PLEASE do not blaspheme. Leave every judgement to God.

God bless you Ifehart and others. I've also been thinking of how thousands of "men of the Light" find it very very difficult to conquer just one man whom they refer to as "darkness" for all these years.
I know and I am sure that light is stronger than darkness. But where light is finding it tough with darkness, then there is a big problem with the light.

T.B Joshua is nothing but a very great Man of God!!!

Tudor may take it or leave it.

Thank you Mr Uchkochi for the observation of the satan black book. All these are just an attempt to buttress the point that T.B Joshua is of darkness.

Well, there is no need to argue. But I believe God gave us all common sense.

My question has always been if T.B Joshua is really of darkness; How long would it take all the "Men of God" who claim to be the light and are born of the spirit to drive him out. At least we all know that darkness cannot withstand the presence of light. But I'm still surprised that instead of the "darkness to vanish"; it is still gaining more strength that the lights have to use all its effort to combat it. Does that make any sense at all?

Do you also think that the antichrist will come in through the church? Pls read your Bible very well with understanding.

The spirit of the antichrist is a slanderous spirit which unfortunately has gained its feet in many churches today.

                          The meaning of satan is 'the slanderer'!!!

Inspite of all these criticism on the man T.B Joshua; he has been walking in brotherly love with all his critics. Pls judge for yourself who is born of the spirit!

My advise to you is to stay clear of all criticisms. Don't join any pastor (no matter how annointed he may claim to be) to judge anyone. Nobody will stand by you on the judgement day to defend you. It will be every man on his own.

Well, Mr Azubola, thank you for the 'DISCOVERY'. I've watched some of the clips of the story of Bisola and Agomoh on Emmanuel TV. One of Agomoh's claim ( Brain-washing one man to sit on the wheel chair in order to see T.B Joshua) has been proven to be a lie by the man himself, who was working with UTC as at the time of the incident and whose medical condition was certified by notable hospitals. Pls always remember that there are always two sides to a story. There's nothing to hide about the story. The DVD you are talking about is even being distributed for free at The Synagogue Church every sunday after the service. Pls take your time to watch Emmanuel TV one day and see the videos of these two people confessing to faults and asking for forgiveness at the church some years ago. Remember, a best friend can turn out to be a worst enemy for some reasons that may be selfish. I'm very sure you won't be happy if someone spreads a deadly rumour about you and every hearer of the rumour turns deaf ears to your own side of the story.