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I think what you're asking is not biblical bc you haven't taken time to try to know the truth.

Bible never said anyone caused Adam to fall. Bible says Eve was deceived but you and the church assume that she was deceived by someone else but the bible makes it clear that it was a self deception and the serpent was her mind.

They bible makes it clear that Adam was banished from the Garden of Eden bc he wanted to steal the eternal life, so I don't know where you got all this funny idea you are talking about, well maybe you too have been deceived by the false Christianity.

I think you need some time to actually study the scripture. Bc the scripture makes it clear that "thou shall not steal", but Adam disobeyed (refused to obey) God first by eating the fruit of knowledge then he proceeded to want to steal eternal life. So he was chase out like a dog he was. Where did you see anyone again in the picture? Did the bible mention another entity outside Eve and Adam? Stop assuming like thr false Church pls and learn

Beretta03:
if you actually typed YES that means you have contradicted your false religious beliefs big time and you have inadvertently destroyed your religion and what you think you believe in.

Why do god have to destroy them when he created evil in the first place?
And we still have what was happening then in this time of our era why not destroy the world again?

If all knowing is not the definition of God that means your own god is not a god but a human.
If all knowing is not the definition of God then why should your own god be called god?
You have blasphemed against your god and belittled him in the most inhumane way possible.

If he doesn't know what you are thinking how is he able to solve your problems or answer your prayers?
If he doesn't know what you are thinking how is he able to tell you before hands what will happen to you in the future?
If he doesn't know what you are thinking how can he be capable of creating the universe talk more of humans?

It is obvious that your god is a man-made ideology and with a man made instinct
Your god is not worthy to be called a god but human.
What are his plans?
If your god is not interested in his creatures then why create them in the first place?
The psychics, fortune tellers, the seers and prophets that see beyond the physical realm with supernatural insights that sees vision of the future where did they get their powers from?
How are the psychics able to give you a correct vision of everything about yourself, your name, your school and what will happen to you in a few day time with precise claivoyance and telepathy?

This particular entity is lost and only the saving grace of Jesus can pick him out from the dungeon of self deception.

budaatum:
I think it does make sense.

Evidence shows that some are created in God's image to rule and subdue and dominate and be blessed, while some are created naked from mud to slave in the Garden of Eden and not eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil for fear that they will die.

Thankfully, there's also a certain unbelieving Eve who used her own senses to check if she would die if she ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil only to find it good for food and for opening eyes and for gaining wisdom and for freeing from slavery in Eden from where she went in to be self employed and populated the earth with humans who are now on the way to rule over and subdue and dominate the moon and Mars.

The question then becomes, are you created in God's Image or are you descendants of stupid ignorant Adam, or at least use her own senses Eve?

MEANING MESSAGES REPRESENTED BY ANIMALS
Father we bless you for your word, we thank you for giving us insight and wisdom to know and understand your mystery. We bless you for calling us sons and giving us the power to live according to your word. Teach us the meaning of your messages that you have represented symbolically with animals so that we may know your mind.

Relationship between humans and animals
Animals are an important part of human existence, daily life is riddled with interactions with different kinds of animals, so much so that some people have become attached to animals as friends and partners (marital).

It’s impossible to tell origin of human interaction with animals; no one can tell when humans started interacting with animals, they can only assume from a logical standpoint. However, the bible gives a picture of when animals came to be. Animals were first created for the impression of a companion, but none was suitable. Therefore, humans have been interacting with animals as early as before a woman ever existed.

Due to human history, connection, and interaction with animals, and their nature of making an impression of human existence, animals have become the major source of evidence for us to learn about human nature, behaviors, and characters. For this reason, animals are widely used for the description of human behaviors and roles.

Representing messages with animals
The art of symbolizing messages is not new, it has existed as far as the mind can backtrack. Animals are suitable for detailed description, so they’re used to accurately picture of human behaviors, emotions, and roles. In fact, secret or coded messages that entail people’s behaviors or roles are best conveyed by animal symbolization.

If a message is represented with an animal, it’s needed to know the particular animal’s behavior in order to know the meaning of the message. The receiver of the message must first familiarize themselves with the animal and its behavior before attempting to interpret the message.

Biblical messages represented with animals
God uses this method passing messages to humans in dreams and revelations. Such messages cannot be known by ordinary unless God reveals the meaning to his trusted sons/priests. The writers of the scriptures regularly employed this method to convey important messages to the people, the aim for this is for security of such information and to leave a lasting impact on a receiver(s). The method was used on several occasions to describe certain people or things and their roles.

An example of such pictorial symbolization is the representation of the Holy Spirit as a dove. The Holy Spirit was seen in a vision as a dove because of the dove’s characteristic behaviors. The Holy Spirit is not a dove but his behavior can be better understood by observing the dove. Doves are gentle and peaceful. Doves make a characteristic sound that is calming and soothing to the mind. They’re also one of the most docile of animals.

The message here is that the Holy Spirit is gentle and kind, He does not attack anyone and is totally non-threatening like a dove. The Holy Spirit does not judge to condemnation, instead, he informs and corrects critically yet reasonably. He speaks to us with a very calm and mind-soothing voice (1 Kings 19:12). Lastly, the Holy Spirit is a docile spirit and will cause a person to obey God (Isaiah 11:2).

Note: the sighting of the Holy Spirit as a dove was a personal vision of John the Baptist in confirmation of the identity of Christ. There was no physical dove at the scene but what came upon Jesus was visually represented so that John might recognize the Holy Spirit.

Similarly, believers are represented as sheep, i.e. if seen in a vision a believer will be represented by a sheep. This does not in any way infer that the person is a sheep, instead, the sheep sighted in a vision represents a kind of human that behaves in a way that can be better understood by observing sheep.

Therefore, whenever we see animals in visions or dreams, it’s needed that we observe and understand such animal’s behavior(s) to know what God revealed. Animals do not always represent a person in visions and dreams, therefore, we must have a detailed knowledge of an animal’s behaviors to know the particular behavior relative to the context of the message. Several animals can also be used to represent a person in a single vision with each describing a particular behavior or role of that person (Ezekiel 1:10).

There are also other times when human encounters with animals hold deeper meaning than the actual event. These kinds of events are not visions or dreams but witnessed by at least one writer of any part of the scriptures. Events of this kind often hold greater meaning spiritually. Examples of such events include David and Samson overcoming the lion, and Paul not being hurt when bitten by a serpent.

David and Samson overcame the desire for power and authority and the pride. So, these men had opportunity to cease power for themselves but overcame such temptation. This is what it means to overcome a lion; to overcome pride and the want for power. Likewise, Paul not being hurt by the serpent means Paul will not rely of the wisdom of the human mind. He was a great thinker but was never trapped by the deception of the mind.

One of such important message conveyed through animal symbolism in the scriptures is seen in Psalmist’s prophecy concerning Christ:
• Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet (Psalm 91:13).

Note: this verse is taken from the same chapter from which Satan took another verse to tempt Jesus because he knew the prophecy was about the messiah.

The prophecy says Jesus will thread on the lion and adder, he will do this by trampling the young lion and the dragon under his feet. The bible does not in any way imply that Jesus encountered a lion or a snake, so a person might wonder if this prophecy came to pass. However, Jesus lived a fulfilled life, which means even this prophecy was fulfilled, so the only way to understand this message is to observe the animals mentioned in the prophecy.

Note: young lion in this text is not a lion cub, but a young adult lion (masculine).

Interpretation?
Only the young lion will be interpreted for the purpose of this article. Therefore, we’ll only discus how Jesus overcame the lion by first trampling the young lion under his feet. The usual behavior of the young adult lion when he has grown is to see itself as equal with the lion(s) of the tribe, it acts on its desire to rule and fights for the authority and dominion of the tribe, and this more often than never leads to its defeat and banishment from the tribe.

The prophecy means that Jesus will overcome the inherent human desire for power and authority and will not fight for power like the young lion. Jesus was going to trample this desire and dwell under the authority of the father. For this particular desire led to the banishment of Adam from the Garden of Eden in the beginning, and Jesus avenged Adam’s treachery by overcoming this desire.

The Bible further establishes in the following verses:
• ⁶ Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
• ⁷ But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
• ⁸ And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
• ⁹ Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
• ¹⁰ That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
• ¹¹ And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:6-11

Jesus did not think of himself equal with God and did not fight against the father for authority, even as a man, he did not think of himself highly but instead humbled himself even unto death. This would have been impossible for anyone who desires power and authority. Jesus overcame the desire of human nature for power and authority, and in doing this, he tread on the lion and trampled on the young lion even though he did not encounter any physical lion.

Therefore, let’s take our time to study the scriptures and observe animal and their behaviors so that we can understand the meaning of the symbolic messages of the scriptures. Let’s endeavor to know what the animals seen in visions represent so we do not misinterpret the scriptures. Examples of such messages that need interpretation by observation are: serpent (Genesis 3:1), scorpion (Luke 10:19), dragon (Revelation) etc.

OP you need to repent, the evidence of being in Christ is seen in a person's patience and self control and the use of the choicest words. Your words are full of vile and this would be this vile is in you. Learn Christ and follow him. May God help you.

Stop reading kabalah text, it's all magic pls

sonmvayina:
The whole world thinks that Adam sinned because he believed the tempting serpent… He did not sin. What could he do, this piece of animal flesh, which could not even become a human himself? What can anyone do against the Upper Plan?

Yes, it is written that God warned: "Do not eat from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil." But the snake appeared and began to persuade: "Eat." And when Adam tasted the forbidden fruit, God said: "Why did you do it? Now you will die. You will not live."
But even without the explanations of the Kabbalists, it is clear that the Torah cannot be some primitive fiction. And we should understand its inner meaning. In order not to fall for interpretations.

"To die" is a good thing, according to what is implied. This means that one's egoism will die in him, and he will reach another level. If we consider the biblical story of Adam and Hava/Eve from a spiritual point of view, then first the property of Adam is revealed in a person: he feels good, calm, he does not harm anyone. Then the egoistic property Eve is revealed, and then the property of the serpent.

After Adam and Eve started to feel their egoism, they revealed the feeling of shame. They needed to get dressed, that is, to acquire some property of bestowal in order to hide their unclothedness.

When a person, feels his inner properties, feels the egoism in him, along with the property of bestowal and evaluates one against the other, he starts to feel vicious and as if hides it in himself under his clothes.

The serpent is a selfish desire that is finally beginning to awaken in a person. And then he sees that he is the opposite of the Creator, he has where to move, what to correct in himself and what to rise to. The snake sits in everyone, but someone has already felt it, and someone has not yet. After all, it seems to everyone that everything is fine: "We live normally. We were born, we live, we die - everything is in order. Let's just calmly stretch these years and that's it." And why does a person need these years? What do they have?

The serpent shows a person that he lives, in fact, in vain, by inertia, not much different from an animal, that we have the germ of some kind of evil. The snake does not allow us to live in peace.
The serpent is a strong, powerful, moving force, planned and programmed, i.e. huge egoism, which begins to disturb us and oppose each other.

The serpent crawls like an angel sent by the Creator to push us towards correction. But since we are in our egoism, we curse these forces that want to pull us out of it. And we must thank the snake for his help... This snake is like a medicine, it is no coincidence that it serves as a symbol of medicine. After all, poison is the basis of all medicines.

With the help of the bites of two snakes, the Creator leads us to help us to suddenly feel the nature that lies above our nature. We understand that we must rise above both of them, and so we find the One who controls these snakes.

it's a necessary epistle

Thanos805:
what kinda epistle is this??


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With due respect sir, a man cannot divorce his wife except for fornication. A man cannot even divorce his wife for adultery. There's room for separation but man cannot divorce his wife even as Christ cannot divorce the church except for fornication. If you have a different opinion then it's fine sir. God bless you.

Wallade:
"And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”

This verse leaves an exception to divorce.

It also indicates that the man or woman commits adultery when he gets married to someone else.

It means, if he stays unmarried after divorce, there is no sin.

Do you have another bible verse that supports your position. You have not been able to convince me.

Mathew 19:9 is the definition of explicit

Wallade:
Can you define "explicit". Define hate as well.

However, you can give me another bible verse that categorically indicates that God does not recognize divorce. The one you quoted only stated that God commands against divorce.

Read the bible pls. I quoted the words of Jesus to you in the article and even showed you where it's explicitly written that God hates putting away.

Divorce as already stated in the article is logical, however, human logic will lead us to death. So decide if you want to follow your own thinking or obey what the bible says pld

Wallade:
"Has not the one God made you?(E) You belong to him in body and spirit. And what does the one God seek? Godly offspring.[a](F) So be on your guard,(G) and do not be unfaithful(H) to the wife of your youth.

16 “The man who hates and divorces his wife,(I)” says the Lord, the God of Israel, “does violence to the one he should protect,”[b](J) says the Lord Almighty.

So be on your guard,(K) and do not be unfaithful."

This does not explicitly indicate that God or the lord commanded that no man or woman must divorce his or her spouse.

When a relationship or marriage has broken down irreparably, it is in the interest of both spouse, kids, society and God to allow separation, however painful, hated, disliked, regrettable and sad.

Do you not believe the words of Jesus are the word of God? Didn't Jesus say a man cannot put away his wife safe for fornication?
Didn't you also check Malachi 2:14-17?

Wallade:
Nice article but I disagree with you that divorce is not allowed by God. Where in the bible did God explicitly say no to divorce?

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Apparently this is causing some issues in the mind of my Christian brothers and sisters. Let's all endeavor to learn, relearn and unlearn when necessary

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Godada:

Blessed father of our faith. We thank you for this opportunity to learn your will and judgment about divorce. We ask for the will to accept your truth and the strength to obey your word. Amen.

The word “divorce” comes from the Latin word “divortium” which means separation. It is also equivalent to the word “divort” or “divortere.” “Di” means apart and “vertere” means to turn in different ways. Divertere also means to divert, turn aside, separate or leave one’s husband.

Today, divorce means the legal dissolution of a marriage by a court or other competent body. Divorce in its verbal form means to legally dissolve one's marriage with (someone), or separate or dissociate (something) from something else, typically with an undesirable effect.

Divorce is quite a logical solution for marriages where there’s no love anymore and it’s one of humans’ most thoughtful and deliberated laws. There are many reasons that can lead to divorce but all of these reasons can be covered as a lack or deficiency of love and respect in a marriage. Common reasons why couples divorce include: lack of commitment, infidelity, conflict and argument, marrying too young, financial problems, substance abuse, domestic violence, etc.

No one can really tell when the practice of divorce started but we can find traces of this concept in ancient civilizations. The oldest codified law in the history of divorce was traced to 1760 B.C. During that period, a man could divorce his wife by simply saying, “You are not my wife,” which was followed by payment of a fine and returning the wife’s dowry. However, if it was the wife who wanted a divorce, she was required to file a complaint to obtain a divorce. In today’s modern society, divorce is only recognized if legal and supported by law.

However, our focus will be on the biblical account of divorce, and our excerpt will be taken from biblical situations. The concept of divorce was introduced by Moses, this might imply that divorce was practiced in Egypt before this time, but was alien to the tribesmen. The concept was introduced because people (mainly men) usually ignore their partners to marry others.It was introduced to give the neglected partner a sense of closure of their situation, so that they’re not confused about the behavior of their partners, and to make them aware of their freedom to engage other people as suitable partners.

Therefore, by default, divorce is an alien practice to God’s people. It’s a practice introduced to accommodate people’s uncontrollable desires and unfaithfulness. For by law, a man cannot put away his wife for any reason, and any woman who commits fornication or adultery shall be put to death. Divorce was created because men continued to put away their wives in disobedience to the law, Moses had to improvise to create a safe place for people to put away their wives and give closure to the woman.

Note: a wife in the Hebrew tribe is not only a woman whose marriage has been celebrated and consummated. Any woman betrothed to a man is his wife by law, even when they might not have been openly celebrated. In this case, the woman lives with her parent until she’s old enough for her husband to take her in an open celebration, after which the marriage can be consummated. A marriage cannot be consummated unless it has been celebrated openly for witnessing.

The Hebrew men did not put away a woman of consummated marriage, they usually put away their betrothed wife to marry another woman in her stead. Any woman treated this way is left unmarried past the common marriageable age while thinking that her husband by law will one day come to take her away. Moses created divorce so that men who’re not interested in the marriage can give a woman divorce to release her from the law to marry another person. Women whose marriages have been consummated are simply left untouched (e.g. Nitzevet, Leah), and sometimes separated but they remained married to their husbands.

What does God say about divorce?
In order to fully understand God’s perspective on divorce, we need to first understand God’s perspective on the concept of marriage, and to fully understand marriage, we have to look at the origin of marriage from the scriptures to have a holistic understanding of the concept.

Origin of marriage
As oddly as it sounds, marriage as a concept obtainable from the scriptures was created by man and not God. The concept was established by Adam in the presence and authority of God. For Adam was as the son of God (Luke 3:38), and whatever words he uttered were established (as law), and whatever name he gave to anything became the name thereof.

When God brought another enitity to Adam as a help meet, Adam said: This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. By these words, Adam established a union of the man and the woman as one.

Here lies wisdom: Adam knew that he was already one with God but on seeing Eve, he became consumed by desire to establish a type of oneness outside God, declaring that a man shall leave his father and mother and shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh.

Marriage is a natural law because it was established by man’s will and so, must be followed by man’s will. For this reason, marriage is an observable natural law, yet a person may choose not to marry and it will have no bearing whatsoever on them spiritually (1 Corinthians). However, the spiritual laws are absolute and must be obeyed by all living Humans (Romans 7:14), and whoever disobeys any part of this shall die.

God did not establish marriage as a concept of life, Adam established marriage in the presence of God, and this makes God a witness in marriage. Marriage was also established by the power of God, and this likewise makes God a constituted authority for marriage. Therefore, for every marriage, God is both a witness and the legal authority (government) that joins a man to a woman.

For example, the court (the government) is both a witness and the legal authority that joins a man and a woman, and it awards a certificate of marriage thereafter but is in no way responsible for the marriage. The court does not tell a man to marry nor who to marry, however, when a man and a woman agree to get married by their own will, the court joins them and becomes the highest witness to the marriage, and places a seal of agreement on them. Such is God’s position in every marriage.

God’s thoughts on divorce
It’s almost impossible to know the mind of God on the concept of divorce because like marriage, it was established by a man who wielded the power of God, and thus, also makes God the highest witness and constituted authority for divorce. This means God is not responsible for any divorce, but if a man and a woman agree to part ways, God shall be a witness to this.

The position that God holds in a marriage makes it very difficult to understand his thought on divorce. However, people have proceeded to divorce in fulfillment of their own will without trying to understanding God’s mind on the concept.
Knowing God’s thoughts through Christ

Divorce is one of the important issues that Jesus delivered God’s justice on, and revealed the mind of God to mankind. When the Pharisees tempted him on the subject, he replied thus:

• 8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
• 9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
• 10 His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.
• 11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.

This is God’s judgment on divorce: a man cannot put away his wife for any reason whatsoever. However, a man can put away his wife for fornication.

Note: fornication is an act that can only be perpetrated by an unmarried woman. A married woman does not commit fornication, she commits adultery instead. Therefore, the woman that can be divorced is the woman who is betrothed to a man, and the only reason for this to happen is fornication.

An example of a divorceable situation in the scripture is that between Joseph and Mary, the parent of our lord Jesus Christ. Mary was referred to as Joseph’s wife even though she was only betrothed to him at that time. In fact, Joseph was not in any way confused about Mary’s pregnancy because they had not consummated their marriage at that time, which is also because they had not celebrated the marriage openly.

A man and woman who have openly celebrated their marriage and have consummated it cannot divorce under any condition; whether physical or spiritual. A man or a woman cannot divorce the other even because of adultery, the adulterous partner should be forgiven with necessary chastisement.

A man who has betrothed a woman cannot divorce her except if she fornicates. A man cannot say to a woman “I will marry you” and then not marry her after they had reached an agreement. A woman who accepts to marry a man cannot turn away from this agreement under any circumstances. If this happens in any case, and the person married another, it will be adultery before God.

Why can’t people divorce?
Recall, that God is the highest authority and witness in marriage, therefore, if God has witnessed a marriage, God cannot witness divorce because God cannot bear witness to the same thing differently. God’s witness is true, meaning that it’s single, and the same at all times. If God witnesses a marriage, that will be his witness forever, come rain or shine.

A man cannot agree to marry a woman and not marry, and vice versa. This is because God is the God of agreement. He bears witness to every agreement. Except for unfaithfulness, such an agreement cannot be annulled by anyone, living or dead. Divorce is possible for a husband and wife whose marriage is not consummated because the seal of marriage is still intact, but a marriage that is consummated and the seal is broken for evidence cannot be annulled by any existing force or power.

Implication of divorce
Although divorce is a very logical solution from the human perspective, God does not allow for divorce. It is very dangerous to divorce, it’s very dangerous to agree to marry a person and then turn around on such an agreement. A consummated cannot be divorced, divorcing from a consummated marriage is a direct attack on God, it’s a direct attack on the word of God and it can lead to death (spiritual).

Divorcing from a partner with whom there’s an agreement to marry results in evil befalling a person because they have breached a covenant. Such a person might not even know why their life is in disarray, yet their covenant to marry a particular person still stands before God, and going off to marry another person is adultery before God and they shall receive the punishment of an adulterer.

An example of a people who did not understand why God was against them and why evil befell them repeatedly is the Israelites but God revealed to them through Malachi that evil befell them because they have behaved treacherously with their wife though he was a witness to the covenant they had. (Malachi 2:14-17).

Divorce and salvation
This is the most important part of divorce Christians need to understand because the marriage to a woman is a similitude to salvation in Christ, and the Church is to the last Adam as Eve was to the first Adam. For by the establishment marriage all fell, and by the same marriage shall all be saved.

The first marriage was born out of man's desires, but the last marriage was ordained before the beginning. The first marriage was established to pull a man away from God but the last marriage connects a man to God. The first marriage was established by the will of Man but the last marriage is by the will of God. All men were born through the will of the first man and by the lust of the flesh, but all men shall be saved through birth by the word of God (John 1:12-13).

Therefore, divorce as logically presented is against the concept of salvation in Christ Jesus. Inasmuch as both the carnal marriage and the spiritual marriage to Christ are overseen by God, God does not bear witness to both marriages differently. What is applicable to one marriage is applicable to the other. A man must love his wife as Christ loves the church and a woman must submit to her husband as the church is subject unto Christ (Ephesians 5:22-30).

However, it’s also important for us to know that we’re only betrothed to Christ for now, and our marriage to Christ is not celebrated yet, so we all stand a chance of being divorced for spiritual fornication (Mathew 19:9). Every Christian is like a virgin growing and waiting to be mature enough to be taken away by her husband, and for this, we must all preserve ourselves as we journey to our marital ceremony (2 Corinthians 11:2).