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jesusjnr2020:
May God deliver us from the hands of blood-thirsty witches that come in sheep clothing. In Jesus name!

Given how often this depraved behavior occurs and how the victims never get justice, one has to conclude that your god approves. Also, judging by the demented shit in Hebrew mythology, one has to say your god definitely approves.
Or we can just speak facts that this is another situation of people exploiting other people and there are no gods to stop it.

Righteousness2:
If your Spirtual Eyes of understanding are opened, nothing here will come as a suprise .

How many people have you helped your slave master rape? How many forced abortions? How many captives?
Forget your spiritual eyes. How many victims have your eyes seen?

guobe:
It is the start of a new year and most Christians do practice the act of fresh fruits whereby your first salary in the year or fresh profit of business, first money of your new marriage etc is given to the church.

Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.
- Denis Diderot

How can you take the money you earned by working and just go hand it off to a man just because he calls himself a cleric?

paxonel:
it will make no meaning to you, except you have been familarized with the content of the book.
You will just be like someone who is being thought cybersecurity when you don't even understand back-end coding, or someone who is going to law school when he doesn't understand literature.

Even intelligent pastors who are considered great pastors by the people, are really finding it difficult to grasp the reality of the book. That explains why the religion is currently in a state of quagmire in terms of intelligent or factual representations of it teachings and everyone are teaching what suits their desire thereby the offshoot of millions of Christian denominations with their own peculiar doctrines.which is truly a huge problem.
And that is why they cannot explain to atheists who had truly wanted to know.

Like i have said, it will take your desire to know atleast the basics, before i can start explaining. Otherwise, all my explanation will make no meaning to you

All I requested was evidence, which you imply is known..

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paxonel:
that is how religious people ostensibly present it to the world.
But in the real sense, unknown to them there are real evidences/facts about the validity of the Christian holy book called the bible.
It will take only an intelligent religious research to unvail these evidences

What are these evidence? You must have made this intelligent religious research to be confident enough to make these claims.

paxonel:
you will only see that when you have interest in studying religious books

Spiritual thing?
https://www.nairaland.com/7958259/moment-nigerian-man-walked-water#127780658

I believe! This is a modern day miracle!!!

paxonel:
you will only see that when you have interest in studying religious books

Which implies things that happen within religious mythology are spiritual.

paxonel:
There are physical evidences

What are these physical evidence of the “supernatural”?

ItShallPass:
God didn't call us to religion. He called us to fellowship. Religion is a man made thing.

So is god. You even gave it a gender.

Shithole country doing shit things.

Piece of shit country.

SIRTee15:
I already gave plausible explanation to the 3rd
event of that night - resurrection of saints.

By attempting to give a “plausible explanation”, are you admitting that dead bodies coming to life is an extraordinary yarn that needs to be rationalized?

SIRTee15:
The verse proved some of Jesus disciples could communicate in greek. So the anonymous authorship claim of the gospel is nonsense.

But the anonymous claim still stands because ability of people to communicate in Greek doesn’t mean that the authors are known talkless of them being the disciples in the same stories.

sunboy:
Isreal has never said they killed 18,000 Hamas fighters, instead they killed 18,000 Palestinians which includes Muslim, Christian, Women, children and men.

See the difference ?

It’s like saying you’re fighting Nigerian politicians and bombing the whole of Abuja at random.

Israel and Palestine is like Nigeria fighting Lagos while acting as if they are fighting a country as big as Cameroon. Then they kill 20,000 random innocent Lagosians while playing the victim and crying about the 1,200 Nigerians that died on the outskirts of Ogun State.

MetaFiles230709:
18000 of them are sucking syphilis Toto of 72 virgins with the rabid pig prophet mohammed in ajana hell

You love Israel so much that you cheer the death of innocents? I hope you love yourself and Nigeria that much compared to a country you have NO link to.

What makes Mohammed any different than Moses? Everything that makes Mohammed a “rabid pig prophet” can also be said of Moses.

Nairaland needs to evolve:

https://factcheck.afp.com/machakos-university-not-launching-degree-witchcraft

The unit exists in a course but there is no course in which you will say that a student will graduate in a degree in witchcraft," Shisia said.

https://allafrica.com/stories/202104300065.html

SIRTee15:
What's the lingua Franca in the eastern Roman empire during the time of jesus.
Ignore my illiteracy, just answer the question.

Don't be a coward who chickens out when confronted with facts.
Either stick to your earlier claim or retract it.

Greek being the lingua Franca still doesn’t detract from the fact that your exposure to Christianity came from England.

SIRTee15:
Your opinion about the God of the bible is the least of my interest.
Just learn to keep shut if u had no idea what u talking about otherwise u go chop dust.
U are not the first and definitely not the last. U don't believe in the bible stick your nose out of it.


One of u initially here insisted Jesus was a myth. After slapping him with hard facts and enormous dose of core truth, he has finally admitted Jesus died but didn't resurrect.
Now I'm about to work on his brain to see the resurrection of Jesus as real.

John 12.20

Now there were some Greeks among those who went up to worship at the festival. They came to Philip, who was from Bethsaida in Galilee, with a request. “Sir,” they said, “we would like to see Jesus.” Philip went to tell Andrew; Andrew and Philip in turn told Jesus

Jesus is a myth. Quoting stories from the Bible doesn’t detract from that fact. What is that quote supposed to prove anyway? This is what follows:

23 Jesus replied, “The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified. 24 Very truly I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds. 25 Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life. 26 Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me.

robosky02:
Worry, Anxiety In Nigeria, As super eagles number 1 Francis Uzoho Is Set To Arrive Super Eagles UAE Camp Late

The 25-year-old may arrive Super Eagles later than the initial 1st January 2024, date by CAF.

Omonia Nicosia is in dire need of their senior experienced goalie as first choice goalkeeper is out injured.

Reports say the Cypriot giants have written to the NFF so it forgive the shot-stopper's late arrival.

The former Deportivo la Coruna safe-hands, is expected to man Super Eagles goal at the 2024 AFCON.

I’m sure there is are at least two goalkeepers in the Nigerian league that are better than this guy.

SIRTee15:
All your response makes no sense. It was better if u had kept quiet.
Gesture and translator indeed.

Now let's see the the correct answers to my questions.
What is the lingua Franca in the eastern province of the Roman empire?
Pls refer to my chat gpt screenshot for answer.

I understand you’re woefully uneducated.

SIRTee15:
Paul wrote in his book to the Romans...

For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one who believeth, to the Jew first and also to the Greek

I’m not Roman, Greek, or Jew, so Paul’s delusion or shame is no concern of mine. I find the god of the Hebrews to be the most repulsive creature in all of literature and the concept of “salvation” to be an utter joke.

SIRTee15:
Who are the Greeks Paul is to referring to here?

Probably the greeks that settled in Ptolemaic and Seleucid area or maybe Hellenized Jews.

SIRTee15:
Mr Man stop confabulating.
The syrophoenician woman is a Canaanite my friend. The bible called her a canaanite by tribe.
But the book of mark referred to her as a greek woman. Why?
By now your conscience already knows the answer. But your stubbornness will not let u admit.

Consult a map of the Seleucid and Ptolemaic empires so you can see why the woman was called a Greek like you asked. I guess you can also call her a Canaanite if that helps you.

SIRTee15:
Now tell me name of the first church in Nigeria.

The Church of England (Anglican Church) circa 1842

SIRTee15:
But let me ask some questions
Why do Jews call gentiles Greek?

Jews refer to non-Jews as gentiles.

SIRTee15:
Why was the syrophoenician woman called Greek?

Possibly because she was a descendant of Hellenes who resided in the Seleucid empire.

SIRTee15:
Who are Hellenised Jews, why are they called Hellenised , where do they live

Hellenized Jews were part of the ruling class or other well to do Judeans who had adopted Greek customs and civilization during that period.

SIRTee15:
Why did Pontius Pilate write 'king of Jews' in greek.

I do not consider the Jesus story to be anything but mythology, however, since Judea was under Roman control during this time, the phrase would have been a mockery.

SIRTee15:
If a Jew wants to speak to a non Jew, in what language will they communicate?

The same way any two people communicate. In a language they both understand, through gestures, or though a translator.

SIRTee15:
Simon the Cyrene from north Africa was asked to carry a cross by a Roman soldier in Judea province.

Whatever language Simon the Cyrene from North Africa and the Roman soldier both understood. But since he was a Roman soldier, I bet he didn’t even need to speak the same language as Simon when force and violence are very effective.

SIRTee15:
If Latin was the lingua Franca in Roman province, why was the new testament written in Greek?

Probably because it was created by Hellenized Greeks.

SIRTee15:
Your claim Jesus couldn't speak greek is largely unfounded when the bible points to the fact he could speak greek.

John 7.35

The Jews said to one another, “Where does this man intend to go that we cannot find him? Will he go where our people live scattered among the Greeks, and teach the Greeks? What did he mean when he said, ‘You will look for me, but you will not find me,’ and ‘Where I am, you cannot come’?”

Now why did the Jews say Jesus was going to teach the Greeks if they knew he couldn't speak greek.

That passage does not reflect your claims and Jesus the Greek speaker.

SIRTee15:
First, tell me; How did English themselves become Christians?

Through the Romans. Pope Gregory being a major figure.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Gregory_I

SIRTee15:
Second, So Methodist, catholic , foursquare, baptist churches in Nigeria came from the church of England.

Catholics were the first and the others came after various events or “schisms”.

SIRTee15:
Francophone countries also became christians virtue of church of England.

The Catholics had a foothold in France so that would be the source of Christianity for the frenxh colonies.

SIRTee15:
Mary Slessor was a Presbyterian, is she from church of England.

The Presbyterians were Scottish hence a part of the British empire, and a product of the English civil wars. They are an offshoot of the Church of England.

SIRTee15:
Then keep quiet on matters that are beyond your level of understanding.
U came here claiming Christianity is a white's man religion yet failed to back the claim with fact when critically examined.

How can Christianity be a white man's religion when no white man wrote the book, no blue eye or blond hair character exist in the book.
The white man was barely present when the doctrines of Christianity were established.

Father Augustine, one of the prominent church fathers present in Nicea council was a berber of ancient Numidia tribe from present day Algeria.
John Mark who wrote the gospel of Mark was born in Libya.

There are over 20 black people mentioned in the bible including the wife of Moses. Over 50 Africans mentioned in the bible including hagar the mistress of Abraham and bathsheba the wife of David.
Simon the Cyrene who helped Jesus Christ with his cross to Golgotha was an African and possibly black.
Yet not one single blond hair, blue eyes and pale skin was ever mentioned, Not one. The only way white people will appear in the bible is if the people of turkey are regarded as white, and of course they won't be blonde hair, pale skin or blue eyes.

U came here claiming black Christians are being brainwashed by Europeans yet u are the one who has Benn gullible all along fallen for the antics of the Europeans who painted all bible characters as white people.
U failed in your due diligence to examine the objectivity of your claim, a problem synonymous with atheist in general. U guys just open your mouth n utter whatever fits your pseudo intelligence delusion.
Hopefully u ve learnt something, and this experience will challenge your mind to learn the real truth in Christianity rather than just following the bandwagon.

Happy new year

Regardless of the accuracy or inaccuracy of the above, your Christianity came via the Church of England, an entity created by King Henry VIII of England because the Pope refused to let him get a divorce. That’s when Henry remembered that he was “ The King”, not the Italian dude in Rome claiming to get his authority from god.

SIRTee15:
What is the lingua Franca of the Roman empire in the eastern region. Did Jesus speak that Lingua Franca.

There would have ‘been no “lingua Franca” per se during those times. However, since it was the early period of imperial Rome when the power was in Rome and the Emperor was Tiberius, the “lingua Franca” would be Latin. While the “Greek” Seleucids and Ptolemaic had controlled the Judea area prior to the Romans, there is no reason to think the common people that had no direct business with rulers would be able to speak Greek.
Your example below is negated by the fact that despite the area called Nigeria being an English colony, speakers of the indigenous languages remained the majority and English was thought until a need for local clerical workers arose.

SIRTee15:
Have u ever asked yourself how u are able to communicate in English right from childhood when English language is not native to Africa.
I'm beginning to think u are not smart. No offense.

He speaks English due to being educated to speak English. The Jesus character would not have spoken Latin because he would not be educated to speak the language. Additionally, the people of Judea were fighting against Roman rule so adopting the language of the “enemy” would be out of the question. The people who would be able to speak Latin would be the highly educated wealthy/ruling class, a group that Jesus the carpenter was not part of.

CodeTemplar:
If spirits didn't control physical, there will be no need for witchcraft.

What’s witchcraft?

Johnycastro18:
Saying the spiritual doesn't exist is quite laughable

Explain what the “spiritual” is.

To reinforce the indoctrination, dogmas, and doctrines. To generate revenue for the business. To attend a social club and bond with other members.

MindHacker9009:
If you start speaking Japanese just of a sudden without ever learning such then that's an extraordinary event. But
if you start speaking nonsense gibberish as speaking in thongs then your sanity needs to be questioned.

Same can also be said for your beliefs. You believe extraordinary things that some may call ridiculous or “invented”.