₦airaland Forum

pongwa:
if I were God... Thank God for God sa

Which God? Obatala? Sango? Orunmila? Amadioha? Ifa? .... which one?

Funkyswagzz:
■ So technically you are saying tinubu and obi think or obi and cardoso think alike which one?

I asked a question there. According to Peter Obi, Tinubu implemented many of his same plans. I am just trying to ascertain if this is true in even those cases.

defash8:
■ PO said this severally before election, that was why we said T-Pain is copying his programs except that PO will be financially disciplined. PO will reduce cost of governance & will not delve in criminal enterprise, he'll move from consumption to production with export. Same policies, but difference in optics & aura.

Nigeria's problem is beyond cutting the cost of governance, and one man not delving into a criminal enterprise. This is not just about who occupies the office of the presidency but about the lives and future of 200 million people who can no longer afford to continue living as they have up until now. Try to see past that man politician to see that Nigerians should be beyond looking for saviors in politicians and be at a point where they desire to do nothing but take back their power. The power rightly belongs to the people, not the president or peter obi.

Smartcitizen:
■b But I doubt if he would have purchased a presidential jet with such amount of money and building VP's house with 20 billion Naira. Only a careless mad man will do that for Nigeria and expect progress in his finances.

Jonathan did not purchase a private jet, or build a 20 billion Naira VP house either but he didn't do a great enough job to curb corruption. Why? Because your politicians cannot curb the black hole of corruption. Never could!

phantom:
■ Very good.. my point is where are you channelling the funds to.. go and read mrvitalis earlier post on page 1 about funding the manufacturing sector. Buhari borrowed.. Tinubu is borrowing.. why hasn't it worked? Because they are 1. Mismanagement of funds 2. Funding sectors where the ROI is slow or equally mismanaged.
That's why kobojunkie was talking about addressing the root cause of corruption which I agree with BUT I'm of the opinion we can chew gum and walk at the same time. We can fight corruption and continue to spend on our economy simultaneously

No you cannot fight corruption and continue to spend on our economy simultaneously! Obasanjo, Jonathan, and Buhari claimed they were doing that but today we know that all they did was choose their friends over those who were their rivals. We don't want political and their friends running the game anymore. Nigerians need to be the ones at the helm; for that time, a systemic overhaul is needed.

faceland:
It is POP and gold PAINT If that was real gold even EFCC must open case to find out how he can afford it.

The Facade could be made of iron rods. Someone should be able to sell at least that.

NewHe:
✓ That's misinformation!! I am a Yoruba man and we give respect to whom is due!
Can you differentiate between an elder/leader and a young person or follower?
To help you, a leader is someone in a position of authority ,for instance- religion, business, political, family and so on you can't say you're equal with them until you attain such height (positional) !

The Nigerian Constitution is misinformation? 🤔

Please f-k off!

SHINJA:
✓ What business does a GAY like you have with Christianity...
Stay off Christian topics.. Dirty gay

🤔 If I were in your shoes, I would choose a homosexual any day over your scammers-in-the-lords who only come to steal, kill, and destroy generations after. 🥱

Lampy336:
✓ Wen it's not 💯 sure that you as a person won't make that heaven too.. Remember that you are also a sinner and heaven is not sure and guaranteed..Leave judgement to God and not before men of the earth..God is so merciful and forgivenIf you are a Christian read your Bible..

💯 Oyedepo and Adeboye willl never aee the Kingdom of God let alone the Heaven & Hell that Jesus Christ says He rules over aa King in the Kingdom of God. And the reason is quite simple. Adeboye & Oyedepo say they are non-israelites --the dogs Jesus Christ warned should not be given that which is Holy.

MIKOLOWISKA:
How many children have you seen starving
Even orphans don't starve
His children will survive with or without him
Do you think it's by your power you survive
Do you think your sitch about change overnight?
You funny

So,no one in Nigeria is starving...that is the grand delusion you wish to cling to in 2024? OK naw!

MIKOLOWISKA:
This not you?

What is the connection between this statement I made here with your later assumptions?

membranus:
✓ You know yourself, and I am not required to describe who you are to you. Review all your posts on this hateful platform, where you are champ to some set of toxic people, and the true picture of yourself will become clearer to you.
And mind you, I am not a fan of Remi Tinubu, because she is as much of a greedy thief as her husband.

🤔 i will say this nicely just this once... Please f-k off!

membranus:
✓ Your characterisation of Remi Tinubu succinctly captured the picture of your true self.
✓ To be candid, can't you see yourself in your description of the woman as a hateful bigoted racist?

1. How can it be my true self when I am neither racist nor bigoted in my views? Or lack of comprehension skills dey do you?

2. What is with the general inability to comprehend written language here for Pete's sake? Remi Tinubu is a bigoted Racist because on many occasions she has expressed, openly mind you, how she looks down on those who are of different race --ethnicity-- and even different status to herself. For instance, her recent claim that her husband being rich is not a thief while in the same breath insisting that those reduced to poverty by the her husband's policies are merely lazy speaks volumes towards this. What exactly are you trying to argue if not odi levels?

smileyoo:
it may surprise you that even those corrupt and clueless entities might turn out to be better than T-pain, because this bullion - Van T-pain is not ordinary oooo , because na baba for the game of Nigeria politics, i wonder why you regard him as ordinary.

Are you joking? A criminal, no matter what he has in his hands, is a criminal. He or she is unacceptable no matter how repentant he may claim to be..

It is statements such as yours that make me feel even more strongly about the nation needing a complete overhaul of the Constitution. The way folks like you reasons is to dangerous to a nation..any nation. We need to update the Constitution to ensure that those with criminal pasts .. both local and international...never occupy office in this nation again.

Lush100:
✓ Phi said he would end subsidy on fuel.He didn't say he would float the naira at the same time. Meaning the companies collecting subsidy money would end. This would lead to increase in price but less than half of this magnitude because the devalue of naira is also contributory to this fuel escalation.
He would use the subsidy to part defend the naira and for production. Of course he would now borrow less money to also defend the naira.
Increase minimum wage and then streamline and collect tax.
Not 21 billion for VP lodge, 90 billion for hajj or Israel pilgrimage or yacht and the like or SUVs.
Lots of ways to take the step by step approach

Petroleum Subsidy has been revealed a huge fraud used against the Nigerian people. Naira has already been floated and is nose diving towards Naira 2000 probably by end of year.Is Peter Obi still talking of what he would have done differently if he were to have been in Tinubu's shoes. Or is Peter Obi speaking at this time of his plan should be elected to replace Tinubu something in the future? It is unclear a lot of times if he is speaking of the future or of this point in time given the same Peter Obi regarded the likes of Tinubu as his mentor and senior brother.

NewHe:
■ I thought you're a right minded person, please be calming down! Remi no be your equal!

Remi no be your equal even though the Constitution of Nigeria says she is?

Na wa for you and other Nigerians who reason and rate yourselves in this manner that you do. This incessant need you folks have to worship other ordinary human beings is truly beyond my understanding. I have no desire to even grasp it as it is appalling to imagine considering how tiny-minded one would have to be to reason in that manner.

NewHe:
■ Known as how? You don't need to hate her for nothing sake!
■ She's a pastor, a former Senator and great philanthropist!

Are you a child or something? I said she is a bigotted racist because she has never hidden that part of her being from anyone. How does stating that fact of her being equate to me hating her? Are you alright at all?

2. Ah! She is a pastor who hates people of other tribes and a philanthropist who goes around giving away other people's money, abi?

yns4real:
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AuthorMan:
■ My guy, answering you has always been like chatting with a lunatic under the bridge of Lagos. No be today I know you on NL with your annoying emoji on Religion section.
See the way you accused him as coniving with Nigeria Government. What proof do you have? You've always been like this. Only a mad man feels confident alledging people of what he cant prove. "Sebi I see you yesterday under the tree with the king's only daughter ehhnehhn," whereas the king's only daughter is schooling in Canada. Guy you've always been like that.

You actually believe that it is only Adeboye, Kumuyi, and many of the other gods-of-men in Nigeria who readily shake hands with Nigerian politicians to get their projects passed through in that country?

AuthorMan:
■ Why wont it be a lie when you were born into lies and you have been living and surviving on lies. If he says he makes profit out of it, can anyone including your corrupt government querry him?
■ He of course has all right to collect wages from it as the founder. Abi you fit beat am? He says he is not collecting wages from it and you found it unbelievable because of the environment you were brought up. OK . He collected wages from it. Go to court. Nonsense.

Which Government go query am? Is the Nigerian government that the man is in cahoots with or another one?

2. How many foundation owners in Nigeria do you know that collect a salary from their foundation? https://cof.org/country-notes/nonprofit-law-nigeria

Hoelujohn:
■ A staff working there told me that the school can afford to abandon all their current structures and facilities and build a new one from the scratch. That's how rich they are. The person said they don't even touch school fees to use in paying salary

The money that was used in building the school and resolving almost all initial costs was from the pocket of Oyedepo's gullible followers — he probably didn't take anything out of his own pocket or even that many loans to do anything from the beginning— free money. So, what do you expect?

Olichoke:
We love you Sir. You are the hope of Nigeria.
At times I weep seeing headless mob without direction insulting this man of God. A man who singlehandedly built the best university in Nigeria. This man should be made a course to be studied in our universities. But fools that their past, present and future generations cannot rival Oyedepo's excreta are insulting him. Lost generation!

Which of the many Nigerian Deities would you be referring to there?

prickursense:
It is true. He has no salary from CU

Why would he need a salary when CU records profits and he is on record as the owner?

Ontarioo:
You have to be a business owner to understand him. Growing up, my mom would say this same thing about her business. Then she'd say the only "profit" is how much she spent on us (her children). To think those were profits from the same business

The wayo of the statement is indeed real! 😂😂😂😂😂

phantom:
■ This is not a constitutional issue. You would have the same problem with a new constitution.
■ Okay, that's for visible corruption... how will a new constitution tackle INVISIBLE corruption?
■ What in the present constitution domiciles power in the hands of the elected?
■ I agree with this but you don't need a constitutional overhaul for national orientation.
■ This is just one small way of using a constitutional overhaul to shift power away from public servants to the people who are the true power in any democracy.

You asked for a primary 3 breakdown of how constitutional overhaul can help fight corruption and that is exactly what I gave to you.

1. You are wrong! It is a constitutional issue that has been severely pointed out by many people who have reviewed the document.

2. It would equally help tackle— significantly reduce —what you refer to as invisible corruption given that the entire system is manned, not by ghosts but by Nigerians at all levels.

3. A lot of the decision-making is not in the hands of the people but left in the hands of the elected and that is a problem. For instance, where it concerns the creation of States, LGs, the election of certain officials, and even the adoption of policies --- the people should have some say but the current constitution does not give the people that power at all. That is a problem I have seen for myself.

4. Maybe 12 years ago it was not necessary, but at this point when the Nigerian lives as though a second/third-class citizen in his or her own country, it is not only necessary but the only common sense way to tackle this lack of identity/inclusion that plagues the Nigerian citizenry. A new Constitution, reviewed and approved by the people, will go a long way in emboldening citizens and restoring their lost confidence in the nation.

5. Again, if you need something more complex, there are more than enough write-ups online to help you understand why this is what Nigeria needs most at this point. Not more borrowing to add more debt that will end up leading them nowhere again.

pongwa:
why do I think this is a lie?

Because the man is telling what amounts to a lie. A lie by omission is still a bloody arse lie. So long as the business is his, he directly benefits from the profits that are realized from the running of it.

Namaster:
This is just SEMANTICS to deceive ignorant people. The reward for business/entrepreneurship is PROFIT. He may NOT be drawing wages but Covenant University is still a business that makes CRAZY profit. The virtue-signalling is UNNECESSARY. Adds NOTHING to the conversation. It's a WORLD-CLASS institution and the students pay DEARLY for it. It's not a CHARITY.

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phantom:
■ You are still "in the air". Let's get down to brass tacks... how do you think a constitutional overhaul will fight corruption. Please explain to me like I'm a primary 3 pupil. Be detailed! Show me the pathway!

One of the main enablers of corruption in the system has been identified as the absence or lack of implementation of Nigerian laws in the last 25 years. Many Nigerians you ask believe that the reason why Nigerians are removed from the monitoring and reporting has to do with the fact that the constitution does not embolden them to take it upon themselves to do something about corruption when they witness or know of it. A constitution that significantly shifts power away from the elected to the people, followed by massive civic education at all levels in Nigeria and sensitization would work to shift power over the democracy away from the elected onto the electorate. This is just one small way of using a constitutional overhaul to shift power away from public servants to the people who are the true power in any democracy.

I hope this has been primary-3 enough for you.

mrvitalis:
■ I'm telling you what obi said he would do with the borrowed money and why it would work. Not the rubbish Buhari and Tinubu have done with borrowed money. But some how you don't seem to understand this basic concepts even after breaking it down to you... You can't find a fault in them, no reason why it should not work.. But hey you won't still agree Obi and Tinubu are not the same

You are clearly here to sell Obi; I am more concerned with dissecting the details of the plan and weighing it against the reality of things in Nigeria today as we speak.

phantom:
■ Look, I think the exact same way you do and visualize perfectly what you are saying. I have told any and everyone who cares to listen that we MUST have some sort of RESTRUCTURING either through a constitutional amendment or a totally new one to move forward.
■ I suspect you are recommending a total constitutional overhaul as some sort of "scorched earth" solution to " wipe the slate clean" and start afresh but I'm afraid that might not even be enough. I would recommend a BLOODY REVOLUTION as my own scorched earth solution.
■ But kobo, I keep saying repeatedly we MUST BE REALISTIC and in an over ambitious manner throw away the baby with the bath water. Now, in what way exactly do you think a constitutional change will fight corruption? Don't see this as insulting. I just want to understand your thought process.

1. What is clear in the course of this discussion is that you and I do not see things the exact same way and we do not visualize this the same. I did not say anything about RESTRUCTURING. Rather what I have consistently stated is that what Nigeria needs is a complete OVERHAUL of the System and all systems within the system. Note the difference between the two words by the way.

re·struc·ture

▪ organize differently.
▪ convert (the debt of a business in difficulty) into another kind of debt, typically one that is repayable at a later time.

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o·ver·haul

▪ take apart (a piece of machinery or equipment) in order to examine it and repair it if necessary.

2. Scorched Earth? Wipe-slate clean? What slate is to be wiped clean? Nigeria's debt? Whose slate is to be wiped clean? Your politicians? I don't follow.

3. Throw away what baby? The baby has long died... at this point, Nigeria is walking around with a corpse in its womb as we speak. Corruption has long suffocated the baby and has pretty much become a huge cancer sucking up the nutrients and food that was originally meant for the baby when it was still living. and it needs to be flushed to give a chance for a new baby and maybe an actual delivery this time around. So, what are you afraid of? What is unrealistic about that approach to you?

mrvitalis:
■ What exactly is your point why exactly won't it work? Don't they already take loans? Don't they already have relationship with banks? Why would a company like juhel or emzor not pay back loans? People that take foreign debt?
Has this thing ever been done in Nigeria? No
Has it been done elsewhere and worked yes
Just say you don't understand the concept

You don't seem to be paying attention at all to the current discussion is what. We are not speaking here of companies but of what the governing of the space that is Nigeria.

phantom:
■ Fine, I agree we need a new constitution. But our problems have solutions that can be grouped into short , medium and long term.
■ Where do you think a constitutional change falls into? Let's be realistic. What time frame does it belong to?

Those choices died with the inauguration of the Buhari regime... Corruption has since become the only short-term, medium-, and long-term problem in Nigeria.

2. It is the only possible solution that is available to this one problem which is corruption.