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emzynuel1:
U don't understand what he is saying
Read it again

I understand his point however it is wrong to sit on the fences where these things are concerned. That is why Jesus Christ called put that we should learn and KNOW the Truth so the Truth can set us free from sin and all its chains. Walking around not really knowing what sin is and what is not sin is a life lived in bondage to sin, do you not agree?

Cnach:
read his final note, he is not wrong
If u really like the race that's what u should do

I understood His point and pointed out that it is wrong to follow these things blindly. It is essential to know what is sin from that which is not so one can walk boldly and firmly in these things.

Codes151:
so medication said he should smoke. Defender

So?

bossvitality:
pesin go enter church hoping to be surrounded by girls by the sides. Na papa and mama's go dey follow you for back ahhh! which kin wahala be dis..

Stop deceiving yourself! If you want to be surrounding by girls, then maybe you need to try other kinds of social clubs then.

prettyheart:
I bring to you the best advice of the season. My beloved, we are in a terrible time where people are dying alot. You and your family members shall not die in Jesus name. Amen. Please take this advice:

"Whenever you want to go out or travel alone or with your closed ones, tell God to forgive you all your sins before you go. Let your closed ones do same to and accept Jesus Christ"

"Whenever you see someone dying, tell the person to repent of his or her sins and accept Jesus Christ".

"Whenever you see someone sick or in critical condition or with gunshot, the first thing to do is to kindly tell the person to repent of his or her sins and accept Jesus Christ"...

"Every day of your life, if you go astray, tell Jesus to forgive all your sins"...

We are in a critical period, you need to be ever ready. Nigeria is not a playing ground

Jesus Christ did not in fact say that Heaven is for those whose sins are forgiven them. He said only those who become like Chidlren will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. What this means is that asking for forgiveness every second of the day will probably not get anyone into Heaven since it is by your works you make it in there...Matthew 25 vs 31-40.

dainformant:
A photo of a Catholic priest celebrating the Kingship of Christ in consonance with the Igbo cultural heritage - has sparked heated debated online after the picture emerged. In the picture, the Priest has the monstrance lifted up above for veneration, and by the sides of the van are two men who have a pot of calabash filled with burning charcoal and frankincense which signifies the passage of Kings. The white chalk or “nzu” were also drawn on the chests of the traditional men.

While some are celebrating the Catholic priest for the unusual way of worship, others have blasted the priest - saying "light and darkness" have nothing in common. See reactions below;

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This is one reason why it is wrong to set a man as master/teacher/shepherd/authority over anyone who belongs to Jesus Christ.

Godssword1:
God desires that we get on fire for Him, even more than we want to be on fire for God. The end time Christian cannot afford to not be on fire for God. Learn more in this article.

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There is no such thing as "getting on fire" for God. It is simply a lie told by men to deceive men as all God asks and requires of all His followers is simply that they continue to trust and obey Him and Him alone in all things

Dejinious:
Its a big sin to smoke.
First of all you body is the temple of God, smoking corrupts your body, its an unhealthy habit. You are destroying your lungs. Consumption of illegal substance is a sin. If cannabis was legal, then you can consume it for health reasons. Smoking it is the issue because of the inhaling of carbon monoxide caused by the combustion process.

Finally, you should have well discipline, don't let the devil make you replace smoking habits for God. God is a jealous God. Addiction is you being a slave to something. As a Christian should only be addicted to praising God and praying and worshipping.

Pls try and stop smoking. I myself was smoking since o was 16, I stopped at 33. If you need tips to stop smoking, send me a mail dejinious@gmail.com

Below are some bible passages to back up my points.

1 Corinthians 3:17 ESV
If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple.

1 Corinthians 10:31 ESV
So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.

Learn to listen to and obey Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ already informed you all that it is not what you eat/ingest/drink that makes your unclean/sinful/defiles you. Why do you all ignore His message on these things?

That body of yours which you feel is so precious and needs to be kept undefiled cannot be defiled by any thing you ingest. And defiling has to do with making it unclean/sinful in the sight of God.

Even Jesus Christ went as far as to say that you will drink poison and it will not harm you, implying that poison self no fit defile your body.

almarthins:
1 corin 3:16-17- Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

If call ur self a Christian and you do not follow Jesus you are wasting ur time. If it is not in the Bible that all prophets from moses, Jesus etc were chain smokers, so I see no point in ur argument. Jesus is our perfect example. If u have determined to commit sin pls don't use bible to justify it. It will bring more damnation to ur doorstep, an enemy of truth and a soldier of devil.

For some of u who is reading this, by there fruit we shall know Dem. We know those who belong to Jesus by there fruits and those who are decieving themselves by there fruits. A true child of God does not smoke nor abuse drugs.

Jesus Christ Himself told you that it is not what you ingest/eat/drink that defiles your body but instead the wickedness you have stored up in your heart that defile your body.

If you yourself followed Jesus Christ, you would know and recognize this from my previous post but I am afraid what many of you do is try to look for ways around following Jesus Christ's actual teachings in most everything.

samydo:
My dear a word is enough for the wise, I hope u are not waiting for God to come and give descriptive description of what is food and what is not if yes I guess u should start going about eating every green leaf u see while you wait for his description.

I am afraid you are late on this one. Jesus Christ already told you from about 2000 years ago that it is not what you eat that makes you unclean/sinful in the sight of God, but it is instead the wickedness you have stored up in your heart that does. Translation, you are free to eat/ingest anything you find for food.

BassReeves:
Here we goat again. Something I've learned about jokers, is that, in spite of everything, if they do again once, they'll do, again, again, again and again infinitum.

It is easy to see that you for what you truly are which is, you're someone who lacks aplomb to do justice to those easy, simple, innocent, harmless straightforward six questions.

I guess you're playing the 'won't open my mouth to say anything' card, as though you earlier typed 'Let me bite!' you've tactfully chose playing the 'silent' card, thinking to yourself, that, the fish with its mouth closed, never gets caught

Well, nothing new under the sun, as most posters, always type 'Again....' to what they dont understand

again..

Kobojunkiee:
Let me bite!

Example, where Paul and John, in their various letters, considered themselves fathers to some of those who belonged in God's flock, they sinned against God in their action. Why? Because God declared in the New Covenant that none of His followers are to consider anyone on earth father where His Kingdom is concerned, for God alone is Father over all in His flock.

almarthins:
Are u telling him to continue to smoke by invoking all this Bible verses?

1 Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

By the way, did Jesus and the prophets smoke weeds ?

If u can see beyond this physical realities, you will know beta that smoking is not from God. And no one that claim to be of God will have the identity of devil.

The mayans(Indians) of America claimed to have seen the gods smoking tobacco which became central to the worship of the gods. No smoker will make heaven.

God is God of Laws and He calls His followers to submit to and obey His Laws. Now God's Law defines for us what is acceptable and what is not .I.e. Sin.

Now a key rule in God's Law is that you have no authority to invent and add your own rules to God's Law, neither are you given authority to remove any law from God's Law.
According to God's Law to us, Jesus Christ, smoking is not a sin , given that Jesus Christ declared that it is not what you eat or ingest that makes you unclean/sinful, but instead what comes out of your heart. The same Jesus Christ even went as far as to state that His followers will drink poison and it will not harm them.

So, since God, through Jesus Christ, the one who is Law in the Kingdom of God, did not see fit to declare smoking a sin, by whose authority do you declare it so?

By whose authority do you declare that which God has not declared evil as having the appearance of evil?

AllenSpencer:
And where did Jesus change this laws? Where did Jesus state what should be consumed on Earth? With the whole medical breakthrough of Cannabis, are you saying users are sinners? Is herbal concoction also a sin. Coca leaf has been used in medicine for decades, are users also sinners/

You are using your personal opinion to make judgements. Not the scriptures.

You may want to go back through my posts to understand what it is I have said so far on this.

Also, God's Law always takes priority over the laws of this world.

AllenSpencer:
And this are his words. Quoted!

Genesis 1:29

And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food.

Genesis 9:3
Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.

1 Timothy 4:4-6
For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer. If you put these things before the brothers, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, being trained in the words of the faith and of the good doctrine that you have followed.

I am afraid that none of that refers to the Law of God as far as the Kingdom of God is concerned.

Jesus Christ is the New Covenant Law of the Kingdom of God which we are called to live by. His Word is the teachings & commandments we have been called to trust in and obey.

Praxis758:
That's amounting to wilful sinning after receiving knowledge of truth.
Hebrew 10 : 26 - 27.
26. For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
27. But a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.

The marrying of another wife amounts to willful sinning after receiving what Truth?

Where is this truth written of in the Bible?

AllenSpencer:
Are you implying that in US states, where marijuana is legalised. It is not a sin?

The Bible mentioned all plant and animal belongs to us. and anyy which is deemed fit for our consumption is valid. The devil did not create marijuana and tobacco, God created it. And everything God created was for a purpose. None is useless.

The Law in the Kingdom of God is not tuned to Man's laws in this world.

Emperor88:
When are we going to move away from "is it a sin" to "is it bad or good"...Sit down think about it logically if it is good or bad rather than if it is a sin or not...just because early prophets married many wives and have many concubines does that make it right in today's world?
Is having too many children a sin?. Answer is No but your common sense should tell you it is bad. Logically the world is already overpopulated and for financial reasons they are bad.

So the earlier you start judging things logically the better...forget those religious law, they were man made thousands of years ago.

The issue here is for those of you who belong in the Kingdom of God, you are commanded by God to obey the Law of that land. Your logical conclusions are for this world but the Law of God is what applies in the Kingdom of God which many or you claim to be a part of.

Emperor88:
Eating too much is even a sin in the bible but they will ignore and be looking for who smokes and drinks.

Eating too much is not a sin in the bible. Jesus Christ was accused of being a glutton and a drunk, just so you know.

I don't know who you have been listening to but next time, pay attention so you are not deceived by the lies of men.

xtivin:
Well done sir. What happens to who marries the wives sent away? Bros, sending them away is only applicable if the husband wants to be a bishop or else it is woe to whoever marries the wives sent away.

And you assume even that there is sanctioned by God Himself?

God said do not put away your wife except in the case of fornication, yet you think that the same God would smile at you when you seek to divorce your wife simply because you want a"Bishop" title?

BassReeves:
Why dont you deeply think these coming next questions over before you start to give your answers. Here are the questions.
1/ Where God's, His Kingdom is concerned, are the Pharisees reckoned in it?
2/ Are they rated highly or positively in it?
3/ If your answer to question #2 above is, No, then why aren't the Pharisees aren't reckoned rated highly or positively in God's, His Kingdom?
4/ Kk, you want to play the 'God declared in the New Covenant that none of His followers are to consider anyone on earth father where His Kingdom is concerned' card. Right? (i.e. Matthew 23:9, huh?) No problem. Now who is the male person who biologically gave birth to you called?
5/ Do you understand correctly at all, the context behind why Jesus is against the sickening sanctimonious pharisaical sense of entitlement practice wanting to be addressed as fathers?
6/ Do you understand the difference between an earthy father, Heavenly Father and 'your father, The Devil'?
(i.e. compare and contrast Matthew 6:9 and John 8:44)

Again....

Kobojunkiee:
Let me bite!

Example, where Paul and John, in their various letters, considered themselves fathers to some of those who belonged in God's flock, they sinned against God in their action. Why? Because God declared in the New Covenant that none of His followers are to consider anyone on earth father where His Kingdom is concerned, for God alone is Father over all in His flock.

Mizessy:
It's not a personal opinion... It's just common sense.
I understand that some people are just here looking for comments that will justify their bad habits so they won't feel too bad about it.
But the fact that your conscience is not agreeing with what you're doing is enough reason to think twice.

I abhor smoking... I am not a fan of it at all, but when it comes to God and the things of God, we are to preach only that which is as declared by Him and Him alone.

My conscience not agreeing with something should not in any way be confused with God not agreeing with it. I will give you an example of what I mean. Say a friend asks me for money to purchase medical marijuana, I may hesitate because I am against smoking, but it would be counted a sin against me if I then refused my friend's request because God has not called me to judge by my conscience by His law.

BassReeves:
I would ask you again, before you were old enough to be responsible for your actions, whose example of one following Jesus Christ were you following?

Let me bite!

Example, where Paul and John, in their various letters, considered themselves fathers to some of those who belonged in God's flock, they sinned against God in their action. Why? Because God declared in the New Covenant that none of His followers are to consider anyone on earth father where His Kingdom is concerned, for God alone is Father over all in His flock.

Mizessy:
There's something called priniciples. Principles are not laws
How do principles differ from laws? Principles provide the basis for laws. Rules, which tend to be specific, may be for some particular time or situation, but principles are timeless
A careful study of the Bible reveals that our heavenly Father provides fundamental directives that cover a variety of situations and aspects of life.
For example, 2 Corinthians 7:1 advices everyone to be clean from every defilement of both flesh and spirit. Smoking does not make you clean in the flesh.
Smoking causes cancer, respiratory diseases, heart diseases, effect on pregnancy.
A person knowing all of this, and still keeps doing it shows that he does not appreciate the free gift of life.
It's just like commiting suicide. Engaging in something you know can kill you but you still do it anyway.

Smoking does not show love for neighbor as report shows that people who get in contact with second hand smoke are more at risk of developing health issues.

So how do you think God views someone who puts his life and the life of others at risk?? You think he'll be happy about it.

Jesus Christ no send you principles... He came to you as a Law and commands that you trust and obey His teachings and commandments, and not your personal ideas and opinions.

Praxis758:
The real marriage that stands in the register of God is the consent of the parents and paying bride price.

Though making vow before the alter is good, but the former is more accepted by God and biblical than the later.

Where in the Bible does God inform you that consent of parents is necessary before a man and woman can become one?

gaddafe:
it would have been nice if you are clear with your points though. When you say sexual sin, I hope you're not referring to David committing any sin by having wives because he was not the only one that did that then. infact it was a common practice then. whether you are a king or commoner.
And if David had sinned by marrying wives don't you think he would have known just as he knew about the Uriah wife.

and yes concubine is a western culture which is frowned at in most African cultures. It doesn't mean people don't have them though.

Sex within a marriage is not considered sexual sin. Polygamy....I am yet to find where Almighty God declares it a sin anywhere in scripture...extrabiblical scripture also considered

Keeping of concubines is however fornication/sexual sin.

Praxis758:
I'm a bible teacher so I understand what I'm saying. The only embargo on you is that you can't go ahead and marry the 4th wife under andy guise.

And bible does not encourage people who are in your category (multiple wives) to hold any office in the church. This is neither punishment, stereotyping nor victimizing, but a scriptural injuction to set standard and discipline for others in the church.

Where is the law against his marrying another wife declared in your Bible?

Princewell2012:
Hmm I think am more hooked in between. Righteousness2 said I should send the three of them away, that they are not my wife, and onother person suggested that I should keep the three of them since they are properly married. I think I need the Holy Spirit to help me out to get things right. mind you am not the person in particular someone brought it up to me to address.

What does it mean to be "properly" married?

According to God, a man and woman simply need to agree to become one for them to be one. God never said anything about getting permission from parents, bride prices, weddings, certificates and the whole shebang that is the wedding industry of today. There were no others present when Adam and Eve chose go become husband and wife then. And God never changed His mind about what marriage is between a man and a woman.

Princewell2012:
Happy Sunday brethren.
Let me go straight to the point.

If I have three wives when am still in the world and the 3 of them are legally and fully married.
All of them have children 6,4, and 2 children respectfully.

And today am now a born again.
And the word of God only permit only wife.
.so in this case what do I do.

1 should I sent two of them away and stick with only one.
2 should I sent the three of them away.

3. or should I keep the three of them?
what should one do in this condition?
Somebody asked me this question and I don't know what to reply him.

Please who can give us a reasonable answer biblically?

I will be very happy if it can be pushed to the front page. God bless you all.

God has given no commands whatsoever against what you have now so there is no need to live worrying over that which God Himself has not condemned.

He gave no direct commands against polygamy to begin with so do not mistake the opinions of men for God's word in this or anything else.

Your born-againism is meant to be onto God and not onto men. If God wants you to change your living arrangement for whatever reasons, He will let you know but be sure that God will never go against His own Word, Jesus Christ, when telling you what to do. So it is best you spend your time learning and obeying the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ so you can know His Truth and are not then easily swayed by the lies of men.

Codes151:
You get no reason to smoke Igbo
Stop whining n quit or stfu

Go ahead and heal him of what ails him then you can at least talk of him having no reason for smoking it.