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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkiee: 1:52am On Apr 26
AllenSpencer:

And where did Jesus change this laws? Where did Jesus state what should be consumed on Earth? With the whole medical breakthrough of Cannabis, are you saying users are sinners? Is herbal concoction also a sin. Coca leaf has been used in medicine for decades, are users also sinners/

You are using your personal opinion to make judgements. Not the scriptures.
You may want to go back through my posts to understand what it is I have said so far on this. undecided

Also, God's Law always takes priority over the laws of this world. undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by DappaD: 1:57am On Apr 26
AllenSpencer:
And this are his words. Quoted!
Genesis 1:29
And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food.
Genesis 9:3
Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.
1 Timothy 4:4-6
For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer. If you put these things before the brothers, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, being trained in the words of the faith and of the good doctrine that you have followed.

Funny how you quoted this on the FP and received many sympathizers and you still reposted but I don’t think any of them, including you have actually opened their Bible and studied it? The Scriptures simply emphasize the importance of not placing undue restrictions on food so I don’t see how it supports the picture you’re trying to paint.

Your logic doesn’t even fly because yes God created all the plants and each have their own purpose but there are a great number of poisonous plants that humans should not think of consuming, if you think I’m joking go and chew the leaves/fruits of the deadly Nightshade and let me see if you’ll live to continue quoting the above Scriptures out of context.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by AllenSpencer: 2:07am On Apr 26
DappaD:


Funny how you quoted this on the FP and received many sympathizers and you still reposted but I don’t think any of them, including you have actually opened their Bible and studied it? The Scriptures simply emphasize the importance of not placing undue restrictions on food so I don’t see how it supports the picture you’re trying to paint.

Your logic doesn’t even fly because yes God created all the plants and each have their own purpose but there are a great number of poisonous plants that humans should not think of consuming, if you think I’m joking go and chew the leaves/fruits of the deadly Nightshade and let me see if you’ll live to continue quoting the above Scriptures out of context.


You did not quote any scripture in all you have said, You talking out of personal opinion.

3 scriptures and you cannot even shoot down one! Note, this are the words of God, so you should know how you contradict it.

Man can choose anything out of the whole varieties. What is poisonous to you is edible or relevant to another man. The fact is that, it is all valid and non is a sin.

NON IS A SIN

THE BIBLE NEVER MENTIONED SPECIFIC PLANTS. IT SAID "ALL" and "EVERYTHING"

#FACT
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by almarthins(m): 2:54am On Apr 26
AllenSpencer:
Genesis 1:29

And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food.

Genesis 9:3
Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.

1 Timothy 4:4-6
For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer. If you put these things before the brothers, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, being trained in the words of the faith and of the good doctrine that you have followed.

Are u telling him to continue to smoke by invoking all this Bible verses?

1 Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

By the way, did Jesus and the prophets smoke weeds ?

If u can see beyond this physical realities, you will know beta that smoking is not from God. And no one that claim to be of God will have the identity of devil.

The mayans(Indians) of America claimed to have seen the gods smoking tobacco which became central to the worship of the gods. No smoker will make heaven.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by AllenSpencer: 3:01am On Apr 26
almarthins:


Are u telling him to continue to smoke by invoking all this Bible verses?

1 Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

By the way, did Jesus and the prophets smoke weeds ?

If u can see beyond this physical realities, you will know beta that smoking is not from God. And no one that claim to be of God will have the identity of devil.

The mayans(Indians) of America claimed to have seen the gods smoking tobacco which became central to the worship of the gods. No smoker will make heaven.

How does Marijuana and Tobacco appear evil? Are you saying God created evil? Or it was the devil that created this plants.


Your point is just personal and not scriptural.

The meat you eat today is considered a sin to some. The vegetable you eat is regarded as weed to some. But the bottomline is that, everything is edible like the Bible stated. Our choices might be different, and that should not condemn another persons choice. We all have a right to what created and everything he created is good.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by scarr: 3:22am On Apr 26
DappaD:


From a Biblical standpoint, we are given the admonition to “cleanse ourselves from all filthiness[or defilement] of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” —2Corinthians 7:1
And so that implies that we should not contaminate our bodies with harmful substances such as the above which you mentioned since they are lead cause of dreadful disease which culminates in death and more importantly, that one who smokes or abuses his body becomes unclean and an unclean person will not inherit God’s Kingdom. Ephesians 5:5

Do you know that chocolate is harmful to the human body?
Do you also know that some of our regular food intake are harmful to the body?
So where is the line drawn in the dangers of taking marijuana and that of taking chocolate.

Before I leave, do you drive a car? Are you not contaminating yourself and others from the use of your car by the emission it produces?

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by AllenSpencer: 3:24am On Apr 26
scarr:


Do you know that chocolate is harmful to the human body?
Do you also know that some of our regular food intake are harmful to the body?
So where is the line drawn in the dangers of taking marijuana and that of taking chocolate.

Before I leave, do you drive a car? Are you not contaminating yourself and others from the use of your car by the emission it produces?

I love your point.

They are not scripturally making point.

They are making points from personal opinions
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkiee: 3:38am On Apr 26
almarthins:

Are u telling him to continue to smoke by invoking all this Bible verses?

1 Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

By the way, did Jesus and the prophets smoke weeds ?

If u can see beyond this physical realities, you will know beta that smoking is not from God. And no one that claim to be of God will have the identity of devil.

The mayans(Indians) of America claimed to have seen the gods smoking tobacco which became central to the worship of the gods. No smoker will make heaven.
God is God of Laws and He calls His followers to submit to and obey His Laws. Now God's Law defines for us what is acceptable and what is not .I.e. Sin. undecided

Now a key rule in God's Law is that you have no authority to invent and add your own rules to God's Law, neither are you given authority to remove any law from God's Law. undecided
According to God's Law to us, Jesus Christ, smoking is not a sin , given that Jesus Christ declared that it is not what you eat or ingest that makes you unclean/sinful, but instead what comes out of your heart. The same Jesus Christ even went as far as to state that His followers will drink poison and it will not harm them. undecided

So, since God, through Jesus Christ, the one who is Law in the Kingdom of God, did not see fit to declare smoking a sin, by whose authority do you declare it so? undecided

By whose authority do you declare that which God has not declared evil as having the appearance of evil? undecided

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Dejinious: 5:00am On Apr 26
Its a big sin to smoke.
First of all you body is the temple of God, smoking corrupts your body, its an unhealthy habit. You are destroying your lungs. Consumption of illegal substance is a sin. If cannabis was legal, then you can consume it for health reasons. Smoking it is the issue because of the inhaling of carbon monoxide caused by the combustion process.

Finally, you should have well discipline, don't let the devil make you replace smoking habits for God. God is a jealous God. Addiction is you being a slave to something. As a Christian should only be addicted to praising God and praying and worshipping.

Pls try and stop smoking. I myself was smoking since o was 16, I stopped at 33. If you need tips to stop smoking, send me a mail dejinious@gmail.com

Below are some bible passages to back up my points.

1 Corinthians 3:17 ESV
If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple.

1 Corinthians 10:31 ESV
So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Codes151(m): 6:52am On Apr 26
Kobojunkiee:
Go ahead and heal him of what ails him then you can at least talk of him having no reason for smoking it. undecided
so medication said he should smoke. Defender
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by almarthins(m): 7:26am On Apr 26
AllenSpencer:


How does Marijuana and Tobacco appear evil? Are you saying God created evil? Or it was the devil that created this plants.


Your point is just personal and not scriptural.

The meat you eat today is considered a sin to some. The vegetable you eat is regarded as weed to some. But the bottomline is that, everything is edible like the Bible stated. Our choices might be different, and that should not condemn another persons choice. We all have a right to what created and everything he created is good.

When the heart is determine to go the way that ensure pleasure, it need just one one thing "reassurrance".

The Bible did warn of the the defilement of the body, yet some still come to tell us stange things.

I asked you one question,did Jesus smoke? If u can not answer this question, then keep ur doctrine of Balaam to urself.

Jesus told us be his follower
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by almarthins(m): 7:43am On Apr 26
Kobojunkiee:
God is God of Laws and He calls His followers to submit to and obey His Laws. Now God's Law defines for us what is acceptable and what is not .I.e. Sin. undecided

Now a key rule in God's Law is that you have no authority to invent and add your own rules to God's Law, neither are you given authority to remove any law from God's Law. undecided
According to God's Law to us, Jesus Christ, smoking is not a sin , given that Jesus Christ declared that it is not what you eat or ingest that makes you unclean/sinful, but instead what comes out of your heart. The same Jesus Christ even went as far as to state that His followers will drink poison and it will not harm them. undecided

So, since God, through Jesus Christ, the one who is Law in the Kingdom of God, did not see fit to declare smoking a sin, by whose authority do you declare it so? undecided

By whose authority do you declare that which God has not declared evil as having the appearance of evil? undecided

1 corin 3:16-17- Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

If call ur self a Christian and you do not follow Jesus you are wasting ur time. If it is not in the Bible that all prophets from moses, Jesus etc were chain smokers, so I see no point in ur argument. Jesus is our perfect example. If u have determined to commit sin pls don't use bible to justify it. It will bring more damnation to ur doorstep, an enemy of truth and a soldier of devil.

For some of u who is reading this, by there fruit we shall know Dem. We know those who belong to Jesus by there fruits and those who are decieving themselves by there fruits. A true child of God does not smoke nor abuse drugs.
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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:46am On Apr 26
NO jare! grin
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by AllenSpencer: 9:19am On Apr 26
almarthins:


When the heart is determine to go the way that ensure pleasure, it need just one one thing "reassurrance".

The Bible did warn of the the defilement of the body, yet some still come to tell us stange things.

I asked you one question,did Jesus smoke? If u can not answer this question, then keep ur doctrine of Balaam to urself.

Jesus told us be his follower

What is defiling the body? What God created?

Do you know everything defiles the body in excess?

As for if Jesus smoked, No! But research has it the incense they were burning had cannabis extract. And if you still want to raise points on what Jesus did while alive, you will get bored cos, I will give you a long list of What Jesus didn't do and you do today.

For example, Jesus trekked and used animals for transportation, why are you using aircrafts and cars? Dont you know you are also polluting the environment by such act? Please dont let us go that route.

The Bible has clearly stated in simple English, WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO OVERTURN IT
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by DappaD: 9:22am On Apr 26
AllenSpencer:
You did not quote any scripture in all you have said, You talking out of personal opinion.
3 scriptures and you cannot even shoot down one! Note, this are the words of God, so you should know how you contradict it.
Man can choose anything out of the whole varieties. What is poisonous to you is edible or relevant to another man. The fact is that, it is all valid and non is a sin.
NON IS A SIN
THE BIBLE NEVER MENTIONED SPECIFIC PLANTS. IT SAID "ALL" and "EVERYTHING"
#FACT

You’re quoting Scriptures willy-nilly out of context so it’s just some lifeless argument you’re trying to put up. Those Scriptures are talking about edibles but since you disagree can you please carry on with eating the Nightshade fruit I asked you to do earlier on?

DappaD:

Funny how you quoted this on the FP and received many sympathizers and you still reposted but I don’t think any of them, including you have actually opened their Bible and studied it? The Scriptures simply emphasize the importance of not placing undue restrictions on food[EDIBLES] so I don’t see how it supports the picture you’re trying to paint.


Your logic doesn’t even fly because yes God created all the plants and each have their own purpose but there are a great number of poisonous plants that humans should not think of consuming, if you think I’m joking go and chew the leaves/fruits of the deadly Nightshade and let me see if you’ll live to continue quoting the above Scriptures out of context.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by AllenSpencer: 9:30am On Apr 26
DappaD:


You’re quoting Scriptures willy-nilly out of context so it’s just some lifeless argument you’re trying to put up. Those Scriptures are talking about edibles but since you disagree can you please carry on with eating the Nightshade fruit I asked you to do earlier on?


Those verses were written in English and not Chinese

Where did the Bible state that the list of food we should eat? The Bible clearly stated out in simple English. Everything and all!

Meaning man is free to choose amongs the boundless varieties.

You still haven't quoted the bible to buttress all this your personal opinions you are trying to force into the scriptures.


1 Timothy 4:4-6
For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer. If you put these things before the brothers, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, being trained in the words of the faith and of the good doctrine that you have followed.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by DappaD: 9:34am On Apr 26
scarr:
Do you know that chocolate is harmful to the human body?
Do you also know that some of our regular food intake are harmful to the body?
So where is the line drawn in the dangers of taking marijuana and that of taking chocolate.
Before I leave, do you drive a car? Are you not contaminating yourself and others from the use of your car by the emission it produces?

I asked your friend to try an experiment for me but since he’s been dodging it. Can you please go and chew the fruit of a Nightshade plant? Since everything is now for human consumption?

Can you explain the reason why your generators which you start-up outside your house doesn’t do much damage to ANYONE as when you start it up and leave it in your room? Or is it that the generator doesn’t give off carbon monoxide outside the home but does indoors? When you find the answer to that, then you’ll have answered the question yourself.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by AllenSpencer: 9:53am On Apr 26
DappaD:


I asked your friend to try an experiment for me but since he’s been dodging it. Can you please go and chew the fruit of a Nightshade plant? Since everything is now for human consumption?

Can you explain the reason why your generators which you start-up outside your house doesn’t do much damage to ANYONE as when you start it up and leave it in your room? Or is it that the generator doesn’t give off carbon monoxide outside the home but does indoors? When you find the answer to that, then you’ll have answered the question yourself.

You don't have scriptural answers

Personal opinion you are using to debate.

Prove my scriptures wrong in English. Mine is clearly printed out there.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by guywitzerogal(m): 10:17am On Apr 26
kingphilip:
so what are you eating from the smoke?
you need heat to produce what you want, you cook to eat, boil to drink, roast to eat, burn to smoke...
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by guywitzerogal(m): 10:20am On Apr 26
Maximus85:


Is killing fellow human spiritual?
Is telling lies spiritual?
Is committing adultery and fornication spiritual?

Sir, when God said you should not kill. Do you know that he's talking to you too that you should not kill yourself? If you know what you're taking is dangerous to your health and you go ahead with it... It is a sin. That is why violent sports that could lead to death should be avoided by people who are lovers of God.
so automatically you mean God didn't know that there is something called smoking and he didn't include it to the ten commandments, even when Jesus christ came he didn't mention it, but we know more that him and decided to add our own abi? Remember the Bible said anybody that add nor remove from the words of the Bible shall_________. I rest my case
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by DappaD: 10:26am On Apr 26
AllenSpencer:

You don't have scriptural answers
Personal opinion you are using to debate.
Prove my scriptures wrong in English. Mine is clearly printed out there.

What does personal opinion have to do with willfully destroying one’s body? One who smokes willfully defiles his own body with toxins is therefore unclean and filthy, something that the Bible speaks against(Romans 12:1, 2Corinthians 7:1) and the one who’s unclean WILL NEVER inherit God’s Kingdom. Ephesians 5:5
Is that what you want to hear? Because I mentioned this earlier on the FP but nobody could disprove instead it was bringing up excuses here and there. Please, sir, if every plant is for consumption, can you go and chew the fruit of the Nightshade plant? Why are you dodging this?
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by AllenSpencer: 10:37am On Apr 26
DappaD:


What does personal opinion have to do with willfully destroying one’s body? One who smokes willfully defiles his own body with toxins is therefore unclean and filthy, something that the Bible speaks against(Romans 12:1, 2Corinthians 7:1) and the one who’s unclean WILL NEVER inherit God’s Kingdom. Ephesians 5:5
Is that what you want to hear? Because I mentioned this earlier on the FP but nobody could disprove instead it was bringing up excuses here and there. Please, sir, if every plant is for consumption, can you go and chew the fruit of the Nightshade plant? Why are you dodging this?

Hello!

Where is it stated that animals and plants makes you unclean? Your scripture does not over-write what has been earlier quoted.

Talking about nightshade is just baseless. Same nightshade has its own medicinal use in some parts of the world and stop acting like its poison. Everything created by God is good and has its own use.

The scripture made it clear that Marijuana is for human use. That fact, you cannot erase. no matter how hard you try. Its scripturally imprinted.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by DappaD: 10:53am On Apr 26
AllenSpencer:

Hello!
Where is it stated that animals and plants makes you unclean? Your scripture does not over-write what has been earlier quoted.
Talking about nightshade is just baseless. Same nightshade has its own medicinal use in some parts of the world and stop acting like its poison. Everything created by God is good and has its own use.
The scripture made it clear that Marijuana is for human use. That fact, you cannot erase. no matter how hard you try. Its scripturally imprinted.
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The import of Romans 12:1 and 2Corinthians 7:1 is this: To use our brains(power of reason) to discern that mind-altering substances such as marijuana when misused defile the human body and mental ability so it should be avoided at all costs if we want God to accept our worship.

Instead of quoting & requoting Scriptures out of context, can you disprove what has been said above? No.

I never said the Nightshade plant was useless. For God to create it, means it has a purpose such as medicine for stomach irritation not that it should be consumed directly just as marijuana can be used for medicinal purposes but smoking it is completely harmful to one’s health.
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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by samydo(m): 11:17am On Apr 26
Kobojunkiee:
And voila !... the problem I was just addressing rears its ugly head. undecided

Where did God specify that it is not to be rolled and with fire attached to an end to inhale and blow out smoke? undecided

My dear a word is enough for the wise, I hope u are not waiting for God to come and give descriptive description of what is food and what is not if yes I guess u should start going about eating every green leaf u see while you wait for his description.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkiee: 1:39pm On Apr 26
samydo:

My dear a word is enough for the wise, I hope u are not waiting for God to come and give descriptive description of what is food and what is not if yes I guess u should start going about eating every green leaf u see while you wait for his description.
I am afraid you are late on this one. Jesus Christ already told you from about 2000 years ago that it is not what you eat that makes you unclean/sinful in the sight of God, but it is instead the wickedness you have stored up in your heart that does. Translation, you are free to eat/ingest anything you find for food. grin
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkiee: 1:46pm On Apr 26
almarthins:

1 corin 3:16-17- Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

If call ur self a Christian and you do not follow Jesus you are wasting ur time. If it is not in the Bible that all prophets from moses, Jesus etc were chain smokers, so I see no point in ur argument. Jesus is our perfect example. If u have determined to commit sin pls don't use bible to justify it. It will bring more damnation to ur doorstep, an enemy of truth and a soldier of devil.

For some of u who is reading this, by there fruit we shall know Dem. We know those who belong to Jesus by there fruits and those who are decieving themselves by there fruits. A true child of God does not smoke nor abuse drugs.
Jesus Christ Himself told you that it is not what you ingest/eat/drink that defiles your body but instead the wickedness you have stored up in your heart that defile your body. undecided

If you yourself followed Jesus Christ, you would know and recognize this from my previous post but I am afraid what many of you do is try to look for ways around following Jesus Christ's actual teachings in most everything. undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkiee: 1:50pm On Apr 26
Dejinious:
Its a big sin to smoke.
First of all you body is the temple of God, smoking corrupts your body, its an unhealthy habit. You are destroying your lungs. Consumption of illegal substance is a sin. If cannabis was legal, then you can consume it for health reasons. Smoking it is the issue because of the inhaling of carbon monoxide caused by the combustion process.

Finally, you should have well discipline, don't let the devil make you replace smoking habits for God. God is a jealous God. Addiction is you being a slave to something. As a Christian should only be addicted to praising God and praying and worshipping.

Pls try and stop smoking. I myself was smoking since o was 16, I stopped at 33. If you need tips to stop smoking, send me a mail dejinious@gmail.com

Below are some bible passages to back up my points.

1 Corinthians 3:17 ESV
If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple.

1 Corinthians 10:31 ESV
So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.

Learn to listen to and obey Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ already informed you all that it is not what you eat/ingest/drink that makes your unclean/sinful/defiles you. Why do you all ignore His message on these things? undecided

That body of yours which you feel is so precious and needs to be kept undefiled cannot be defiled by any thing you ingest. And defiling has to do with making it unclean/sinful in the sight of God. undecided

Even Jesus Christ went as far as to say that you will drink poison and it will not harm you, implying that poison self no fit defile your body. undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by SweetAngelComed(m): 1:52pm On Apr 26
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkiee: 3:12pm On Apr 26
Codes151:
so medication said he should smoke. Defender
So? undecided

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