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felixzo1:
you are not married, was there any legal documents to this effect? court marriage certificate or church wedding certificate for the 3 women. if not you are not legally married.

Open your Bible and tell us what God said about this marriage thing. How can you declare a man not married in the eyes of God to his own wives?

Grace001:
I stand to be corrected.

Why is that pastors/G.O of most popular Pentecostal churches in Nigeria are richer than their members.

No individual member, no single member wealth can be equate to these pastors/G.Os


No single member is richer than PAPA Oyedepo

No single member Is richer than daddy G.O Adeboye not even the vp Osinbajo.

Apostle Sulaimon
Pastor Enenche
Pastor Paul Adefarasin
Pastor Ayo oritsajofor
Prophet TB Joshua
Pastor Chris oyakhilome

Food for thought

While the members are busy tapping "grace" from nowhere, they are busy tapping their wealth from their gullible followers... God said this would happen Ezekiel 34. Jesus Christ warned people against all these false Teachers and prophets. Peter also did.

BassReeves:
If you were sounding sincere and honest enough, you would have wholly and completely told him he f'ed up

If there's any nice writeup, it is this

Why not list here say five, to start with what are the many of Paul's submissions, that contradict Jesus Christ's teachings.

Do similar with what you have for the letters of John, James and the rest, you claim, also contain entries that are against the teachings of Jesus Christ?

Do just those two. Justify yourself or remain silent.

1 Corinthians 11:1
'Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.'
Or,
You are to imitate me, just as I imitate Christ.

Again....

Kobojunkiee:
You don't like the idea does not change the Truth of it.

Many of Paul's submissions contradict Jesus Christ's teachings - Paul wrote the most. Even the letters of John, James and the rest also contain entries that are against the teachings of Jesus Christ. But thankfully since we know it is the teachings of Jesus Christ that we are called to trust and obey, it is easy for those who know the Truth to spot the problems and move on from them.

God never called anyone to worship(trust and obey) the words of men but instead the very Word out of God's own mouth. Those of you who pretend your Bible is to be worshipped are in error since the very idea is against God's own commandment to men.

gaddafe:
and yet the man that was after his heart had many of them. Did you read any part where it states that God was angry with any of those Kings because they had many concubines? The reason why concubines is wrong today is because it's against the African culture

God declared that David was a man after His heart even before David was anointed King as a youth. That does not then imply that all that David did throughout the rest of his life was pleasing in the sight of God, nor does it mean that God changed his mind about sexual sins as defined in the old Covenant.

God never made special laws for Kings so be sure that David will be judged by the Old Covenant, just as everyone of His people before and after Him. That God did not complain or send a prophet to him for every sin he committed even as king does not imply that God changed His mind about sin.

As for concubines being against African culture, this is the first I have heard of that.

Teachope21:
How You Can Become Born Again:

To become born again, you must believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is Lord and confess it with your mouth.

You can declare this confession.

"Lord Jesus, I acknowledge that I am a sinner and ask you to forgive my sins.

Lord Jesus, i believe you came in the flesh, I believe you died for me on the cross, I believe you arose and I believe you ascended and is seated now on the right hand of God in heaven.

Lord Jesus, I now declare and believe all that you did for me through your death, burial, resurrection and ascension.

I hereby ask you to come into my life as i now receive you in my heart as my Lord and personal Saviour: and i promise to serve you all the days of my life.

I now declare that I am born again and that the Spirit of God is alive in me now. Amen"

If you believe and declare this;

Something significant has happened in the Spirit realm on your behalf and your transformation has taken place, You are now BORN AGAIN.

Find a Bible believing church where the truth about Jesus Christ is preached, get baptized and build your faith as you fellowship with them regularly.

I assure you, no demon or situation will be able to defeat you as long as you abide with Christ all the days of your life because: at the mention of the name of Jesus Christ EVERY knee bows.

Remain blessed.

Please stop deceiving people with this nonsense!

felixzo1:
legally married in Church or where. only church wedding is legal for a born again, if you are only married by customary law , you are not married, you can not marry more than 1 woman by court wedding. which form of legal wedding are you talking about

Where is any of what you have said found in your Bible?

chijokz:
It seems what Kumuyi is saying is to continue to "Pray" so "Nigeria can fly again"
Did we ever "fly" in the 1st place.
A renowned motivational speaker once said
"Prayer is not in the success equation instead Knowledge and Understanding"

Is this man here not one of your renowned motivational speaker, albeit to a select audience?

FarmTech:
Nice writeup. But I don't like this idea of people implying that the bible contradict itself bc it doesn't. Paul or any of the apostles never contradicted Christ. It is just us that did not fully understand what they meant.

You don't like the idea does not change the Truth of it.

Many of Paul's submissions contradict Jesus Christ's teachings - Paul wrote the most. Even the letters of John, James and the rest also contain entries that are against the teachings of Jesus Christ. But thankfully since we know it is the teachings of Jesus Christ that we are called to trust and obey, it is easy for those who know the Truth to spot the problems and move on from them.

God never called anyone to worship(trust and obey) the words of men but instead the very Word out of God's own mouth. Those of you who pretend your Bible is to be worshipped are in error since the very idea is against God's own commandment to men.

felixzo1:
there are 3 forms of marriage, custom, court and church. but the church only recognises marriage held in the church as bidding for a born again Christian,any Union held outside this is not called marriage by the Church.

I am asking you of what God Himself declared since God is the one we are called to submit to and serve. What does God Himself say of these things?

Atlas9:
My dear confusionist, carry on! I wish you well. We don't come here to argue or convince anyone. We commend ourselves to every man's conscience (2 Corinthians 4:2), and we have renounced secret and shameful ways. If masturbation doesn't fall into the category of secret and shameful ways, you tell me. Unclean things, shameful things, unhealthy things, my dear, stay away from them. The bible says let your moderation be known to all. The Lord is near (Philippians 4:5).
A word is enough for the wise.

The reason you are obviously confused is you find that what is written does not fit with what you have long been taught by the way of doctrines and traditions of men that Jesus Christ warned you against imbibing.

Sin is disobedience of God's commandments, not your conscience. So, if God has not declared a thing a sin in His Kingdom, it is not your place to declare it so as that would be tantamount to spitting in God's own mouth.

Unclean things are not "shameful" things or secret things. No, unclean as used in the Bible refers mainly to that which is against God's commandment.

What is shameful and secret is relative since we each define that differently for ourselves. However, sin is universal in the sense that it is not dependent on individual whims and opinions but on the Word of God Himself.

Here is better Wisdom for you. Study the Gospels so that you can learn the Truth of God and have the Truth of God set you free from ignorance of that which is sin in the sight of God.

gaddafe:
The three wives are yours keep them. If you chase them away who do expect to get married to them. King David was a man after Gods heart and he had many wives and many girlfriends (concubines). Initially the Christian faith does not bother about wedding ceremony and how many wives you marry as long as the bride was not stolen or kidnapped. All these stuff started in the 17th or 18th century. Please enjoy your life you have not committed any sin. As long as they were duly married

I believe God draws the line at concubines though

livingchrist:
If your wives have children for you, you don't need to send them away empty handed.
I believe your first wife is your legal wife, keep her but you can also take care of your other wives and children.

Where in the Bible do you find God Almighty declaring that your first wife is your "legal" wife?

felixzo1:
you are allowed to wed only one woman in Church, and only church wedding is recognized as legal. this is a case of fornication not Mardi

Allowed by whom? Men or God?

Where in the bible did God tell you to wed in your churches?

Where did God tell you that only your church weddings are recognized as legal?

Where did God tell you that marriage to more than one woman is fornication?

felixzo1:
they will remain in your house hold if the choose and you will provide for them, but you will not have sexual relationship with the 2.you will only choose one and marry officially in the church, only the one married in the church is recognized as your wife. before officially being wedded in the church what your were doing with the 3 was fornication .only the wedding in church is legal by church tradition

Where do you get these your beliefs from cause it is obviously not according to God's own Word to you.

Married in the church is recognized by whom, God? Where do you have God telling you this?

You will not have sexual relationships with your own wife because of doctrines and traditions that have nothing to do with God and this somehow ends up being for God?

felixzo1:
what I am aware done in this case is this, you choose 1 among the 3 to be having sexual relationship with but care for all the 3 financially, the other 2 are free to remarry if they want.the kids are 100% your responsibility. when Christianity came to Africa more than a 100 years ago, this practice was very common. most men had multiple wives and this was how the church solved it

What you describe is a sin against God's commandment to His followers. Jesus Christ was clear that the only valid divorce is divorce for sin of fornication, every other reason is sin against God.

You, in transmitting this to others as if right, also commit sin against God in your ignorance

delishpot:
Any video? I want see video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaMS8js668Q.

the man get great balance.

jimmynauty:
Faith or believe is simply mental accent to His promise.

In the Bible, faith refers to the cumulative works done in submission and obedience to the commandments of God.

The world's definition of the word "faith" which assumes mental accent is not according to the Word of God.

Princewell2012:
Happy Sunday brethren.
Let me go straight to the point.

If I have three wives when am still in the world and the 3 of them are legally and fully married.
All of them have children 6,4, and 2 children respectfully.

And today am now a born again.
And the word of God only permit only wife.
.so in this case what do I do.

1 should I sent two of them away and stick with only one.
2 should I sent the three of them away.

3. or should I keep the three of them?
what should one do in this condition?
Somebody asked me this question and I don't know what to reply him.
Please who can give us a reasonable answer biblically?
I will be very happy if it can be pushed to the front page. God bless you all.

Jesus Christ said that if you divorce your wife for any reason other than fornication, you commit sin against God.

Perfectbeing:
What about wearing earrings and gold bracelets? Or females wearing trousers? Or wearing makeup and weavons?

You see bro.. Sin consciousness is sin itself..

No it is not.

BRATISLAVA:
Okay, wait for a loud voice from the Spirit realm to tell you what you already know.

Why does one need to wait for a voice from what you call a spirit realm where sin is concerned when you can easily read and learn for yourself from the teachings of Jesus Christ, the New Covenant, exactly what constitutes sin and what does not?

BRATISLAVA:
What is a vice?

If you are waiting for the Bible to spell out everything for you, how to have sex, what to do if your tooth is shaky, if smoking is right or not, you're going to wait a long time.

A sickly looking man, not an able-bodied man running himself down into that state through his vices that he refuses to stop, because they aren't commandments.

These are redundant arguments.

It's not the Bible but God that spells out what sin is and only He can do that, not you or any man. So where God has not declared a thing sin, it is not your place to declare it so.

So your vices have nothing to do with sin unless God Himself specified it so.

Sin is disobedience registered against God's Law to you... it is not left up to man to define that which is against God. God have specific rules where sin is concerned.

BRATISLAVA:
I believe I've answered in previous posts.

I am afraid you did not since righteousness of God is not some arbitrary marker but is clearly defined by God Himself.

BRATISLAVA:
Where is the grudge with people destroying air for others? If you want to destroy your lungs with second hand smoke, nobody will stop you. All vices are sins. And his conscience is judging him for him to ask it here.

Yes, Christians are to take better care of their bodies. Jesus was not a slob or man of antisocial vices.

We keep holding onto vices under various guises.

All vices are sins? Where do you get this from?

His conscience is judging him? But it is not humans but God that defines and judges sins?

Christians are to take care of their bodies? Is that to mean that a sickly looking man who can barely take care of His body is, by consequence, an unrighteous sinner before God?

BRATISLAVA:
I disagree with you, but refuse to keep up the argument.

Harming yourself is sinful; likewise others. Read the Torah, Genesis to book 5.

Where in the torah are you told that gluttony is a sin?

Out of the 613 commandments, which one of them states that gluttony is sin?

Have you even read Deuteronomy 30 where God, through Moses, ratified the Old Covenant Law restating there that is it is an agreement between God and those of the blood of Jacob?

Are you of the blood of Jacob?

BRATISLAVA:
Even LSD has incredible health properties.
Yet it alters the mind, like MJ.

Christians are to take better care of their bodies than other people will, if they are sincere with biblical truths.

It's not about deciding what is sin or not, but these things are harmful and alter their minds. If they are sincere about the health benefits, they will find a tablet of marijuana and take it, not smoking it and constituting a nuisance.

Why must smokers alter the air for others who don't want to partake in smoking? Why harm others willfully?

If it is their choice, then why impose it on others? That is a good pointer to why smoking anything is wrong.

Christians are to take better care of their bodies? Where did Jesus Christ, the Head CHRISTian tell you these things?

It is obvious you have a personal grudge of sorts against smokers and that is fine but to elevate it to sin levels... you go too far there.

Tcwork:
. That's my point. So many things we do are very unhealthy but it's not given to man to decide what is sin or not. Did you know that marijuana has incredible health properties?

Right

BRATISLAVA:
That is why I'm asking you about gluttony that is not a commandment, since you only take commandments.

It is a sin to willfully harm ones body and that of others. Did God tell you to harm yourself or not? Do you need the 11th commandment?

Gluttony is not a sin.

Sin has nothing to do with causing harm to your body.

By the way, Jesus Christ gave you, not 10, but 50-something commandments that define sin of which glutton is not listed as one of them.

Omooba77:
Is Sex Intimacy Critical to Married Christian Couple?

Jesus Christ said that your marriages are of the world and not of His Kingdom, so the same ideas that apply to worldly marriages apply to marriages between Christians.

PopeP:
So I give a deadly plant that can kill you will eat it based on the scriptures you quoted above.

Now 1 John 5:17 says 'All unrighteousness is a sin' so the question you ask yourself is, is it right to take that will affect you reasoning and health negatively? Answer is no, since is not right, is a sin. Smoking is like trying to commit suicide, which is a sin.

Jesus Christ said that if you believe in Him, you will drink poison and it will not harm you.

Jesus Christ also told you that it is not what you eat/ingest that makes you unclean/sinful in the eyes of God, but instead what comes out of your heart.

I understand that a lot of you seem to attach sin and its definition to your bodies, the same bodies that Jesus Christ Himself commands that you be willing to maim(pluck out your eyes/cut off your limbs if it causes you to sin etc.) In order to avoid sin and hell. But the Truth of God is that sin is not about your body but instead has to do with disobedience of God's stated commandments.

Biodun556:
https://youtu.be/0wuFY

Talk about having Mohammed on one's mind!
ROFLMAO

BRATISLAVA:
What do you say about gluttony that isn't in the commandments, yet is a sin that Jesus never directly spoke about?

Jesus Christ was accused of being a glutton and a drunk... yet He didn't stop to labeling them sins .

Sin is disobedience of God's given commandments as it is carried out in defiance of God's own Law. And since God gave no rules regarding how much one can eat in a sitting, it means gluttony is not a sin at all against God.

Sin does not have to do with the harming of the human body..that body of yours is not held in such high esteem by God as many like to pretend. So, sin is not defined as that which harm your bodies but instead that which stands contrary to the Law of God.

BRATISLAVA:
Replace coke with alcohol and you have your answer.

No you do not! What you have is still an opinion and not sin. It is only by knowing the teachings of Jesus Christ that one can in fact know what is sin and what is not sin.