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anonymous1759:
Let's not deceive ourselves. For the Bible to state it categorically that men should not put on women's attire it simply means there's a woman's Attire and there's a Man's own too . No two ways about.

The same bible also told you that the laws you quote belong only to the people of israel and not the gentiles. Did you bother believing that too? Or is it only believable if it comes out of the mouth of your Mogs?

Righteousness89:
You Listen to what the Bible says....

Pastor Kumuyi only echoed what the Bible says..

No he does not. Kumuyi preaches lies and deceit by his many doctrines which have absolutely nothing to do with the Gospel of the Kingdom of God which Jesus Christ commanded His followers to give out and teach the world to obey.

The man is not born-again, not according to God's specification but his own doctrine, maybe..

Awoo88:
Which Bible warn against shaving of beard. Abi u just won talk

In the same Old Covenant wey your Mog go dey teach against women wearing trouser.

Stop falling prey to these wolves in sheep's clothing who don't know Jesus Christ, nor His truth. No follower of Jesus Christ would make the mistake of preaching from the Old Covenant to others since the Old Covenant does not apply where Jesus Christ is concerned..Jesus Christ is God's Law to the world, particularly the gentiles who were excluded from the Old Covenant.

nwakaibeya1:
John 6,60-68>> In the Kingdom of JESUS Christ that has come back to revenge and judge people unknown to those claiming to know Jesus Christ,everyone is suspect including William Kumuyi, be you whoever on earth,anywhere in the world&beyond,no matter your title&we speak&say investigate it by all means if you know JESUS CHRIST,afterall as his follower you should defend falsehood about his time&season,more so if we say investigate, that his Kingdom has comeback to revenge&judge people unknown to those who claim to know&those that are spiritually ignorant that wants to fight the fight of the powerful& talk in support of so so&so should be wise& learn about the spiritual&that is why we tell those who wish to know that NIGHT IS ONE&LIGHT IS ONE &NIGHT IS THE PLACE TO KNOW WHO IS WHO,EVIL OR GOOD,there are no pretenses at NIGHT and in the realm of the spirit there is no distance so figure it out and why not ask deep spiritual questions even as i have declared to the world that kingdom of JesusChrist has comeback to revenge& judge people >>I speak spiritually and reveal things unknown after the creation of the world and unbelievable truth about practical JESUS CHRIST not theology or Genesis to revelation stories hence all things that happened there in bible has practically repeated itself in this generation #Be wise and investigate the revelation as we have authorised the whole world, it's a gradual process.... Mathew 13,13-15

What does all this mean though? The Kingdom of Jesus Christ come back to judge whom? Why?

Are you born-again?

wellmax:
If you don't know a thing, you better keep quiet.

Do not let these false prophets continue to deceive you. Open that book and read it for yourself to save your own life by knowing the truth that is the teachings of Jesus Christ.

gaskiyamagana:
Call him whatever you like. Hope you will not be victim of broken home, business and nation from that abominable act.

Why? Does Kumuyi send his followers to break into your home, and business and nation it you don't follow his brand of lies?

Jesus Christ warned you against these wolves in sheep's clothing who will come to you in His name selling nothing but lies meant to steal, kill and destroy you in the end.

flex04:
One out of every pastor do pick out one part of the old testament that favours their methodology and wipe out the remaining ones with the saying that says "We no longer live by the law but by the grace" which is eeh.... don't they see the part that teaches against shaving beards

Am just making my point

They are all liars and deceivers in the end. The very false Teacher and prophets Jesus Christ warned His disciples against listening to.

zabuur:
The truth is " Christianity is the most confused religion in d world" No unique way of doing things, No generally accepted rules that guide them. It's just to accept Christ then go ahead and do what you just feel like doing, or say whatever comes to mouth.

The problem is 99.99999% of those who call themselves Christians do not believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ, the Truth of God, but rather in the doctrines and traditions of men, lies according to Jesus Christ. Men like this Kumuyi fellow are the one Jesus Christ warned His followers against listening to because their lies have nothing to do with Him or His Kingdom.

almarthins:
Pharisee calling saducce hypocrite!
We go see who be hypocrite on judgements day.

The era of mercy is about to end... Woe is coming.

The man is indeed a hypocrite and he teaches lies in the name of God.

Belteshazzar1:
It has become a common thing for women to put on men's wear especially trousers and all the rest. It only takes the grace of God for few of them to be absent in this abomination. they don't normally see it as a sin, rather they See's it as fashion. only Jesus can save

Jesus Christ never commanded women against wearing clothing of their choice. Stop confusing the doctrines and traditions of your Mogs with the Word of God.

RTSC:
Kumuyi has spent decades in the Christian way of life.
He was already born again when most pastors in Nigeria were not even born yet.

Common sense dictates he should have a deeper understanding of scriptures than most new generation pastors that women love to throng nowadays.

Kumuyi is not born-again, not according to God's specification. He is born-again according to his own doctrine but not the teachings of Jesus Christ .

Danwakae:
TH REAL PASTOR HAS SPOKEN
Most christians don't want to hear this.
the fake pastors and their followers will attack him.

Some how close to the doctrine of the holy Quran

Corrupt foreign culture has taken over .

A real pastor preaching lies in the name of God?

Don't let men deceive you cause you will be the one filled with regret in the end.

Jesus Christ never told any of His followers that the way you dress constitutes sin in the Kingdom of God. Focusing on the wrong things means you miss out on doing what is in fact required of you by God. Jesus Christ warned you against these false Teacher and prophets whose lies are not but convincing to those who are themselves ignorant of the Truth of God.

Nodogragra4me:
Go and read your bible and get about it under the direction of the holy spirit. The Bible never asked you to cover your hair but head.... Bulletin crew always misrepresenting the Bible.


Little wonder they believe in omnipresent Mary

Jesus Christ never told you that your dressing matters where Heaven is concerned, neither did He tell you that dressing na sin. Do not allow these blind teachers who don't know the Truth of God to deceive you into focusing on the wrong things.

The mere fact that this man focuses on preaching from the Old Covenant Law of Moses that God made with those who are of the Blood of Jacob, instead of teaching only the commandments that Jesus Christ, the New Covenant promised by God Himself, and brought to mankind over 2000 years ago speaks volumes.

This man does know Jesus Christ and you will be a fool to let him deceive you.

Suspect33:
Without holiness no man shall see the Lord..

holiness has nothing to do with clothing! Jesus Christ no tell you say you must wear a certain type of cloth if you want to see God. Stop letting men deceive you in the name of God.

psp2pc:
I have always wondered about these 2 questions, cause I know that for God leaving the 2 forbidden trees in the garden of Eden, one day one day 1 person would pluck it.

1. if it was only eve had eaten the fruit of good and evil?
would only eve had been chased out of the garden or what.
2. if they didn't eat it, what if it was their grandchildren that ate it?
I know that they would surely have born one stubborn akpos pikin that would have plucked.
3. as the Bible says that death came as a result of the sin of eating the forbidden fruit. let's imagine that we don't die, shey overpopulation wouldn't have occurred. considering the billions upon billions of people wey don die since creation

1. If Adam had not eaten from the fruit of the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil, I don't believe Eve would have been kicked out of the garden. And this because the directive not to eat from the tree was given, not to Eve but to Adam and Adam alone.

2. It is possible that God intended for Adam to teach the command to His children and their children's children, kind of like the story of Jonadab son of Recab told of in Jeremiah 35. Jonadab taught all His sons and their generations not to drink wine, and they kept the command their forefathers gave them.

3. Without death, men would rarely think of leaving behind a name and so many other stupid ideas we hang on to in the name of keeping tradition and culture.

Found this article for those interested

Magic mushroom' compound may work just as well as antidepressants, small study finds
https://www.livescience.com/amp/psilocybin-versus-antidepressants-magic-mushrooms.html

How 'complementarianism' – the belief that God assigned specific gender roles – became part of evangelical doctrine
Susan M. Shaw, Oregon State University
April 13, 2021 8.41am EDT

Prominent evangelical leader Beth Moore, who announced in March 2021 that she was leaving the Southern Baptist Convention over its treatment of women, among other issues, recently apologized for supporting the primacy of the theology of “complementarianism.”

This belief asserts that while women and men are of equal value, God has assigned them specific gender roles. Specifically, it promotes men’s headship or authority over women, while encouraging women’s submission.

As a scholar of gender and evangelical Christianity who grew up Southern Baptist, I watched how complementarianism became central to evangelical belief, starting in the late 1970s, in response to the feminist influence within Christianity.

The start of the doctrine
In the 1970s, the women’s movement began to make inroads into a number of arenas in the U.S., including work, education and politics. Many Christians, including evangelicals, came to embrace egalitarianism and to champion women’s equality in the home, church and society.

In response, in 1977 evangelical biblical studies professor George Knight III published a book, “New Testament Teaching on the Role Relationship of Men and Women,” and introduced a new interpretation of “role differences.”

Other evangelical biblical studies professors, such as Wayne Grudem and John Piper, began to write about submission and headship in the mid-1980s and early 1990s, making the claim that women’s submission to men was not, as many Christians at that time believed, a result of the Fall in the Garden of Eden when Eve and Adam ate the forbidden fruit.

Rather, they argued, the requirement for women’s submission was part of the created order. Men, they explained, were created to rule and women were created to obey.

Southern Baptists incorporate the belief
Evangelical leaders began to hold secret meetings, conferences and evangelical associations to work out, and then promote, a fully developed framework for complementarianism.

In 1987, a group including Piper and Grudem met in Danvers, Massachusetts, to prepare a statement that came to be known as the Danvers Statement on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood. It set out the core beliefs of complementarianism.

Among other things, the Danvers Statement affirmed the submissive role of women. It said, “Wives should forsake resistance to their husbands’ authority and grow in willing, joyful submission to their husbands’ leadership.”

The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood was created at the same time. The goal of the council was to influence evangelicals to adopt the principles of complementarianism in their homes, churches, schools and other religious agencies.

Within a decade, the council and the Danvers Statement began to have significant influence among evangelicals, particularly Southern Baptists, the nation’s largest Protestant denomination.

Entrenched evangelical beliefs
The Southern Baptist Convention soon incorporated these beliefs into its confessional statement – a document of generally shared beliefs. In an amendment in 1998 to the “Baptist Faith and Message,” the convention included the complementarian language.

The amended section on “The Family” stated, “A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ. She, being in the image of God as is her husband and thus equal to him, has the God-given responsibility to respect her husband and to serve as his helper in managing the household and nurturing the next generation.”

For some, the theology of complementarianism became so deeply entrenched in evangelical belief that they came to see it as an essential doctrine of the faith. As Piper said in 2012, if people accept egalitarianism, sooner or later, they’re going to get the Gospel wrong.

While Moore has not entirely renounced complementarianism, she has now decried its use as a first-tier doctrine. First-tier doctrines are the ones that evangelicals believe people must accept in order to be Christians. For some evangelicals, however, complementarianism remains a litmus test for theological faithfulness, right alongside belief in God and acceptance of Jesus.

https://theconversation.com/amp/how-complementarianism-the-belief-that-god-assigned-specific-gender-roles-became-part-of-evangelical-doctrine-158758

mechanics:
We need men of God to tell us the truth, remember repetition is for emphasis.

No matter how many times your Mog repeat their lies, it will never amount to God's Truth. Jesus Christ never gave you commandments as far as dress code is concerned, so why are your Mogs still teaching you from a Covenant that belongs to the people of israel when over 2000 years ago, Jesus Christ brought for you a different and better covenant to live by?

Doesn't that tell you that your Mogs are themselves equally clueless where the things of God are concerned?

PrincewithGod:
Deuteronomy 22 : 5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for ALL that do so are ABOMINATION unto the LORD thy God.

You were never born or bound to the Old Covenant Law of Moses. So why do you follow a Law that God never included you in?

Jesus Christ, the Law of God , came to you 2000 years ago, offering you His Way, Truth(Law) and Life (grace), but you continue to cling to that which God never called you for. Why?

madegreatbygrace:
I'm sure this must be old story because pastor Kumuyi doesn't emphasize things like this anymore.Sometime ago, he came out to admit that he made some errors in the work of the ministry. He then promised to correct some of these wrong teachings before he departs.

Yeah right.... correct what exactly, after how many decades of lying to 10s of millions in the name of God?

Amagite:
The G.O of Deeper Christian Life Ministry, Pastor William Kumuyi, on Sunday said women who put on men’s wears are abomination unto God, reports.

According to the outlet, Kumuyi, who was preaching on the topic: “The Inner and Outward Beauty of Kingdom Citizens,” said the Bible specifically warned that men should not put on women’s wear neither should women put on men’s wears.

He noted everybody would frown if a preacher come to the pulpit putting on a woman’s wear as people would think he was abnormal, adding that the society seemed to appreciate women putting on men’s wears than men putting on women’s wears.

He said the standard of God would never change even if the world would change, emphasising that God frowned at any woman wearing men’s wears or men putting on women’s wears.

According to him, some Christians felt inferior because they were not copying the standard of the world, while challenging such people to keep on obeying God’s word rather than the world.

Kumuyi stated that the outward beauty that the world seemed to appreciate bred pride and arrogance, saying that the inner beauty gotten through Salvation in Christ should be coveted by all as such would lead to heaven.

http://www.amagitesblog.com/2019/04/women-who-wear-mens-clothes-are-an-abomination-unto-god-pastor-kumuyi.html

These men are the false teachers and false prophets (blind ones too) that Jesus Christ warned His followers against listening to. There mouths are filled with lies and so are their hearts for they do not know the Truth of God and Jesus Christ does not live inside of them.

elated177:
I don't have time for your style or your compass. I didn't open this thread for you, unless, of course, you want to come out of the closet and proclaim your hatred for the Word of YHVH Almighty. The premise of this thread is well-established and I have no iota of intention of veering and making it anout you, kobojunkie.

So, kobojunkie, take your nagging and yapping to those who have your time.

You create a thread to bully those who do not agree with you, convinced that you are justified in your deceit -better than them - because you tack on the name of God and maybe say a few "Bless you"/"Shaloms" /"Hallelujah" at the end of every other comment , and this is your premise?

Proclaim my hatred for the Word of God?

Didn't God command that you to love your enemies, implying you do so even more than you love your own self? And didnt He also say that those who love Him are those who obey His commandments?

Clearly, your actions here already speak volumes of where your hatred lies with respect to the Word of God.

Let me tell you Nairalanders.
Speaking in Tongues is of the Lord.

But the Devil also uses it to mimick people. Remember Satan has power. Its only by the Power of God through Jesus and the Holy one can conquer him.

But Most can discern the Real Speaking in Tongues to the Counterfeit.

Dont believe anybody that you see speaking in tongues is of the Lord.

Remember, BY THEIR FRUIT YOU SHALL KNOW THEM. Not BY THEIR SPEAKING IN TONGUES.

Tongues, as expressed by Jesus Christ refers ofcourse to a human language - complete in all its forms .

elated177:
Why is this thread making you antsy? Are you not a follower of Yahushua the Messiah again?Ehehehehe! Shouldn't a thread like this be giving joy?

Antsy?
Are you going to pretend this is your first encounter with me and my conversation style?
And what of what I have posted so far makes you think I may have changed my style or my compass?
Why would a thread like this give me joy?

incogni2o:
Please carry this to the islam thread

Seconded...
Moderators... please move to the appropriate section. This place shouldn't be a default dumping ground abeg!

elated177:
How is this any concern of yours again?

Like I said,

Kobojunkiee:
Ok, I will bite! I am not really an advocate of theirs or anyones, but I believe in their God-given right to do and live as they please....yes. so?

Sleyanya1:
I wouldn't be surprised if the man opens the box on a good day and find an adult in it

ROFLMAO

iamyemiakins:
https://www.facebook.com/300203663401219/posts/3790286464392904/?app=fbl

I hope he is a good father to those kids...

elated177:
The same right still can be exercised on a non-faceless platform. Don't you think so?

Why do they need to express on a face2face platform when they can comfortably do so here as well?

Who gains from their inconveniencing themselves, going on a face2face platform, to express the very same right?

elated177:
Read slowly this time:
So you are mind reader now?
I have two questions for you:
Where did I say anything about anyone being smitten?
Are you their advocate?

Ok, I will bite! I am not really an advocate of theirs or anyones, but I believe in their God-given right to do and live as they please....yes. so?

elated177:
So you are mind reader now?
I have two questions for you:
Where did I say anything about anyone being smitten?
Are you their advocate?

Interesting

Kobojunkiee:
What will their making the same declarations face2face do for you or to anything?

You think God is going to smite them or killed them right on the spot or something?

Or do you expect that you are sanctioned by God to smite them on His behalf?

God already sees and knows there faces even as it remains hidden from you in this - He knew them from before they were born. He sees them make their declarations day and night... He sees their very thoughts even more they speak or type it. Yet, God does nothing to them, ever cared to learn why?

... read carefully this time around....

LisaAnneMia:
And you still can't see with the verses you quoted that the first always paves way for the second to be explained? Noah found grace and then he became righteous in God's eyes.

That is a boldfaced lie you tell there and I am sure you know it!

LisaAnneMia:
The grace of God provided Noah with the opportunity to escape what befell the earth. And about Genesis, isn't that the detailed information of what happened on the sixth day in chapter 1? Just like the rivers in chapter 2. Weren't everything already created in chapter 1 before God rested? Weren't the details of what happened in chapter 1 explained in chapter 2?

Even during examination, lecturers will tell you to list first and then explain after.

And thank God man doesn't own the keys to God's mind or heart to know who's lying and who'll go to hell.

Stop twisting yourself into bundles to create this gospel of yours. Do you know that God does not lie at all... man lies. There cannot exist 2 versions of the truth... there is ever only one. Any other information that does not conform to the Truth is a lie!