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BluDesk:
I find it out rightly ridiculous and offensive to the cross of carvery, yes, they desire to do good but to sit on billions and appoint our mothers in 60s to sweep the church for 25/40k per month salary which they know isn't adequate in today's modern world... Yet I administer billions of funds.
Am I alright. Am I still sane or.. I don't get it

BluDesk:
See.. I got stuck one day at around midnight in a location far from my house. I looked for a church to pass the night.. Vigil
I found one. A church in planks. I worshipped with them love the ministrations they received and welcomed and prayed with me.
They called for offering at the close of service. When I got outside by dawn I was shock the car I saw the pastor driving was worth 2.2 Million.. The church he was ministering in was planks not worth more than 80k a year.... I couldn't shake it off my head and mind... Why not sell the car for the sake of the Love for the kingdom and fix the church up and grow from there
Am I overthinking?

BluDesk:
Don't get me wrong. I'm also a Minister and called to serve at the pulpit. I don't think I have the desire to oversee 100 Billion and I will have members with little needs financial resources can meet and deliberately choose to look the other way

BluDesk:
This disturbing thought has been hunting my soup this evening and I can't seem to find peace in my soul
I will be on the pulpit as my training season comes to an end. I pray I don't become such a man ever. Ever and ever.

John 10 vs 7-20 (ERV)
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7. So Jesus said again, “I assure you, I am the gate for the sheep.
8. All those who came before me were thieves and robbers. The sheep did not listen to them.
9. I am the gate. Whoever enters through me will be saved. They will be able to come in and go out. They will find everything they need.
10. A thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy. But I came to give life—life that is full and good.
11. “I am the good shepherd, and the good shepherd gives his life for the sheep.
12. The worker who is paid to keep the sheep is different from the shepherd. The paid worker does not own the sheep. So when he sees a wolf coming, he runs away and leaves the sheep alone. Then the wolf attacks the sheep and scatters them.
13. The man runs away because he is only a paid worker. He does not really care for the sheep.

14-15. “I am the shepherd who cares for the sheep. I know my sheep just as the Father knows me. And my sheep know me just as I know the Father. I give my life for these sheep.
16. I have other sheep too. They are not in this flock here. I must lead them also. They will listen to my voice. In the future, there will be one flock and one shepherd.
17. The Father loves me because I give my life. I give my life so that I can get it back again.
18. No one takes my life away from me. I give my own life freely. I have the right to give my life, and I have the right to get it back again. This is what the Father told me.”
19. Again the Jews were divided over what Jesus was saying.
20. Many of them said, “A demon has come into him and made him crazy. Why listen to him?”

sonmvayina:
Sorry i even wasted my time...you no go school at all or you just suffering from cognitive dissonance...

sonmvayina:
Check for the meaning of propaganda in the dictionary. Thats a good place to start.
Bye bye.

LisaAnneMia:
Just like I told the other guy, I'll tell you. Just cos the facts don't suit your belief doesn't make it false. Every number and story and alphabet have their meanings. The writer of Genesis purposely put grace before Noah was declared righteous. If you can't see that, then goodnight. Thank God anyone with Bible will see what came first.

Genesis 6 vs 1-10 (ESV)
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1. The number of people on earth continued to increase. When these people had daughters,
2. the sons of God saw how beautiful they were. So they chose the women they wanted. They married them, and the women had their children.
3. Then the Lord said, “People are only human. I will not let my Spirit be troubled by them forever. I will let them live only 120 years.”[a]
4. During this time and also later, the Nephilim people lived in the land. They have been famous as powerful soldiers since ancient times.

5. The Lord saw that the people on the earth were very evil. He saw that they thought only about evil things all the time.
6. The Lord was sorry that he had made people on the earth. It made him very sad in his heart.
7. So the Lord said, “I will destroy all the people I created on the earth. I will destroy every person and every animal and everything that crawls on the earth. And I will destroy all the birds in the air, because I am sorry that I have made them.”
8. But Noah pleased the Lord.
9. This is the history of Noah’s family. He was a good(Righteous) man all his life, and he always followed God.
10. Noah had three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

sonmvayina:
So what have i been saying all along. Well let me oblige you.. From the beginning God created man from the dust of the earth and blew into his nostrils the breadth of life and man became a living being. Man is dust of earth and breadth of God. (Death is just back to default) breadth back to God and body back to dust. It is God who created us with the ability to make choices. He only gave us lawsto keep to make our life more enjoyable and fruitful. The same laws he gave all mankind.

sonmvayina:
The jews developed it and built stories round it. The same God they call Hashem is the same God Igbos call Chukwu is the same God yorubas call Eledumare. He is the creator of the universe, They rightly told you in numbers 23:19 that God is not a man or a human being. Chukwu is not a human being. It is the personification of the totality of the conciouseness of the universe. ...The universe is governed by laws and principles . the personification of the laws and principle is what the yorubas call orishas and the bible calls Angels or sons of God.
God already told us all through the old testament that he will forgive us if we sincerely repent. "A contrite hearth you will not spurn"... No human sacrifice no need for jesus. Anybody coming to change Gods laws should be killed. Or exocised from the community...

Deuteronomy 30 vs 15-20 (ERV)
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15. “Today I have given you a choice between life and death, success and disaster.
16. I command you today to love the Lord your God. I command you to follow him and to obey his commands, laws, and rules. Then you will live, and your nation will grow larger. And the Lord your God will bless you in the land that you are entering to take for your own.
17. But if you turn away from your God and refuse to listen, if you are led away to worship and serve other gods,
18. you will be destroyed. I am warning you today, if you turn away from God, you will not live long in that land across the Jordan River that you are ready to enter and take for your own.

19. “Today I am giving you a choice of two ways. And I ask heaven and earth to be witnesses of your choice. You can choose life or death. The first choice will bring a blessing. The other choice will bring a curse. So choose life! Then you and your children will live.
20. You must love the Lord your God and obey him. Never leave him, because he is your life. And he will give you a long life in the land that he, the Lord, promised to give to your ancestors—Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.”

Leviticus 24 vs 7-20 (ERV)
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7. Put pure frankincense on each row. This will help the Lord remember the gift.
8. Every Sabbath day Aaron will put the bread in order before the Lord. This must be done forever. This agreement with the Israelites will continue forever.
9. That bread will belong to Aaron and his sons. They will eat the bread in a holy place, because that bread is one of the special gifts to the Lord. It is Aaron’s share forever.”

Leviticus 26 vs 41- (ERV)
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41. Maybe they will admit that I turned against them and brought them into the land of their enemies. These people will be like strangers to me. But maybe they will become humble[a] and accept the punishment for their sin.
42. If they do, I will remember my agreement with Jacob. I will remember my agreement with Isaac. I will remember my agreement with Abraham, and I will remember the land.

43. “The land will be empty. The land will enjoy its time of rest. Then the survivors will accept the punishment for their sins. They will learn that they were punished because they hated my laws and refused to obey my rules.

sonmvayina:
It was Emperior constantine who wanted a single religion for his empire that gathered all the diffwewnt religious leaders to Nicea and after arguing for almost two years they finally created the jesus character as their God..

sonmvayina:
Dont be daft...consult real history...not the one the people who created him are saying.. Listen to what pope leo the 10th has to say.

sonmvayina:
Do you really read what you type and try and make sense of it before you click submit?
I sincerely doubt it...
Meeeen, that your drugs dey do you shege??
Change am abeg..

MightySparrow:
Go and study more sister.

Myer:
Honestly, I don't have anything to add or delete from this.
Cos Jesus did say no one should be called Father except God which Paul and John contradicted.

But about leadership, I will still believe it is impossible to have a church without a leader or leaders stewarding for the head, Christ.

According to Ezekiel 18 which you quoted, God is against human leaders leading the church and shepherding the flock. But you have rightly also said, in the mouth of two or more witnesses is a truth established. Is there any other verse in the Bible that confirms this?

John 10 vs 7-20 (ERV)
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7. So Jesus said again, “I assure you, I am the gate for the sheep.
8. All those who came before me were thieves and robbers. The sheep did not listen to them.
9. I am the gate. Whoever enters through me will be saved. They will be able to come in and go out. They will find everything they need.
10. A thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy. But I came to give life—life that is full and good.
11. “I am the good shepherd, and the good shepherd gives his life for the sheep.
12. The worker who is paid to keep the sheep is different from the shepherd. The paid worker does not own the sheep. So when he sees a wolf coming, he runs away and leaves the sheep alone. Then the wolf attacks the sheep and scatters them.
13. The man runs away because he is only a paid worker. He does not really care for the sheep.

14-15. “I am the shepherd who cares for the sheep. I know my sheep just as the Father knows me. And my sheep know me just as I know the Father. I give my life for these sheep.
16. I have other sheep too. They are not in this flock here. I must lead them also. They will listen to my voice. In the future, there will be one flock and one shepherd.
17. The Father loves me because I give my life. I give my life so that I can get it back again.
18. No one takes my life away from me. I give my own life freely. I have the right to give my life, and I have the right to get it back again. This is what the Father told me.”
19. Again the Jews were divided over what Jesus was saying.
20. Many of them said, “A demon has come into him and made him crazy. Why listen to him?”

Ezekiel 34 vs 9-16 (ERV)
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9. So, you shepherds, listen to the word of the Lord!
10. The Lord God says, “I am against the shepherds. I will demand my sheep from them. I will fire them. They will not be my shepherds anymore. Then the shepherds will not be able to feed themselves, and I will save my flock from their mouths. Then my sheep will not be food for them.”
11. [color=#990099] The Lord God says, “I myself will be their Shepherd. I will search for my sheep and take care of them. [/color]
12. If a shepherd is with his sheep when they begin to wander away, he will go searching for them. In the same way I will search for my sheep. I will save them and bring them back from all the places where they were scattered on that dark and cloudy day.
13. I will bring them back from those nations. I will gather them from those countries and bring them back to their own land. I will feed them on the mountains of Israel, by the streams, and in all the places where people live.
14. I will lead them to grassy fields. They will go to the place high on the mountains of Israel and lie down on good ground and eat the grass. They will eat in rich grassland on the mountains of Israel.
15. [color=#990099] Yes, I will feed my flock, and I will lead them to a place of rest.” This is what the Lord God said.[/color]
16. “I will search for the lost sheep. I will bring back the sheep that were scattered and put bandages on the sheep that were hurt. I will make the weak sheep strong, but I will destroy the fat and powerful shepherds. I will feed them the punishment they deserve.”

LisaAnneMia:
Just answer. Was it before or after?

Genesis 6 vs 1-10 (ESV)
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1. The number of people on earth continued to increase. When these people had daughters,
2. the sons of God saw how beautiful they were. So they chose the women they wanted. They married them, and the women had their children.
3. Then the Lord said, “People are only human. I will not let my Spirit be troubled by them forever. I will let them live only 120 years.”[a]
4. During this time and also later, the Nephilim people lived in the land. They have been famous as powerful soldiers since ancient times.
5. The Lord saw that the people on the earth were very evil. He saw that they thought only about evil things all the time.
6. The Lord was sorry that he had made people on the earth. It made him very sad in his heart.
7. So the Lord said, “I will destroy all the people I created on the earth. I will destroy every person and every animal and everything that crawls on the earth. And I will destroy all the birds in the air, because I am sorry that I have made them.”
8. But Noah pleased the Lord.
9. This is the history of Noah’s family. He was a good(Righteous) man all his life, and he always followed God.
10. Noah had three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

poeticsoldier:
I am glad you read all through.That shows you are not weary of reading long post unlike some who comment without reading.
On the part of comprehension,if you observe keenly,I am on the side of justice and the common people.It is not for me to call GO's names.We cannot rebuke them but only advice them.
Whatever you call them is your opinion not mine.Overall,I'm glad you got the message as per wolves which I used literally.Thanks

LisaAnneMia:
One question to you two. The verse where Noah found grace, was it before he was referred to as righteous or after?

Genesis 6 vs 1-10 (ESV)
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1. The number of people on earth continued to increase. When these people had daughters,
2. the sons of God saw how beautiful they were. So they chose the women they wanted. They married them, and the women had their children.
3. Then the Lord said, “People are only human. I will not let my Spirit be troubled by them forever. I will let them live only 120 years.”[a]
4. During this time and also later, the Nephilim people lived in the land. They have been famous as powerful soldiers since ancient times.
5. The Lord saw that the people on the earth were very evil. He saw that they thought only about evil things all the time.
6. The Lord was sorry that he had made people on the earth. It made him very sad in his heart.
7. So the Lord said, “I will destroy all the people I created on the earth. I will destroy every person and every animal and everything that crawls on the earth. And I will destroy all the birds in the air, because I am sorry that I have made them.”
8. But Noah pleased the Lord.
9. This is the history of Noah’s family. He was a good(Righteous) man all his life, and he always followed God.
10. Noah had three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

MightySparrow:
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Titus 2:11
Kobojunjie, this is the second time we will meet on a thread you criticize Paul. Anyways, there is nothing you can do about it. He was commissioned by Jesus Himself.
Paul said all things he taught and wrote were from the Lord Himself.
Gal. 1: 12

Matthew 28 vs 16-20 (ERV)
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16. The eleven followers went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus told them to go.
17. On the mountain the followers saw Jesus. They worshiped him. But some of the followers did not believe that it was really Jesus.
18. So he came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth is given to me.
19. So go and make followers of all people in the world. Baptize them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
20. Teach them to obey everything that I have told you to do. You can be sure that I will be with you always. I will continue with you until the end of time.”

MightySparrow:
You are not more informed than the Paul. If you don't understand his writings why not give time to study?
Even Peter, had respect for his writings. I don't think you know more than Peter who learned directly at the Master's feet.
16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
2Pet.1: 16 ∼ 17
and
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 2 Pet. 3: 15 ∼ 16.

MightySparrow:
Grace is an avenue provided by God for man to reach Him after the Fall. God located Abel, Seth( in his time men been to call on God), then Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Israel, then the whole world through Jesus.

What is grace? Unmerited favour. That is the popular definition. Yes through. God took man as they are initially, then made.a covenant with Noah, then Abraham and Israeli. These are also Grace because God designed them to reach Him.
What is the purpose of grace?
1. Reconciliation
2. Restoration
3. Riches
4. Revelation
5. Restitution
5. Resurrection

MightySparrow:
....And more as many things as lost in the Fall to bring man back to the original plan.
The Law though a form of grace, is to make man know the gravity of sin committed.
The grace of Jesus is like a cushion effect because the Law itself failed to bring man to perfection.
If you are given to science, I would liken it to a resistor called`shunt` this resistor took about 99.9% of effect of current on the instrument.

Matthew 11 vs 27-30 (ESV)
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27. All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
28. Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”

Mark 2 vs 16-17 (ESV)
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16. When some teachers of the law who were Pharisees saw Jesus eating with such bad people, they asked his followers, “Why does he eat with tax collectors and sinners?”
17. When Jesus heard this, he said to them, “It is the sick people who need a doctor, not those who are healthy. I did not come to invite good(righteous/perfect/holy) people. I came to invite sinners.”

MightySparrow:
Don't mind me Someone else can explain to you better but the summary is in Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. I was with Him on the cross spirituality to meet the needs of Justice. He bore the pain, but I the gains.

MightySparrow:
So, Grace of the Lord Jesus could be given as an scronym:
1. God` s Reconciliation at Christ`s Expense
2. God`s Restitution at Christ`s Expense
You could insert the test as re ∼ is to bring back.etc.
I am so sorry, I am a bit lazy typing I would have loved to insert many scriptures.
Somebody, please contribute to shed more light for this brother and me Al's to learn.
Thanks

Mystery9:
Even the walk of Abraham with God was of grace

LisaAnneMia:
I'm sorry o, I just had to chook mouth ...but wasn't Noah's time before the law of Moses was given? (Noah was in Genesis and the law was given in Exodus)

And didn't Noah find grace before God called him righteous? (He found grace in Genesis 6:8 and God called him righteous in Genesis 7:1). Doesn't that mean when we receive His grace we'll be seen as righteous? And it was after he received God's grace that God directed Noah and told Him all he must do to save his life and family's life...oh and the animals too.And twas after he found grace in verse 8 that the Bible said he was perfect and just among his generations.

Genesis 6 vs 1-8 (ESV)
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1. The number of people on earth continued to increase. When these people had daughters,
2. the sons of God saw how beautiful they were. So they chose the women they wanted. They married them, and the women had their children.
3. Then the Lord said, “People are only human. I will not let my Spirit be troubled by them forever. I will let them live only 120 years.”[a]
4. During this time and also later, the Nephilim people lived in the land. They have been famous as powerful soldiers since ancient times.

5. The Lord saw that the people on the earth were very evil. He saw that they thought only about evil things all the time.
6. The Lord was sorry that he had made people on the earth. It made him very sad in his heart.
7. So the Lord said, “I will destroy all the people I created on the earth. I will destroy every person and every animal and everything that crawls on the earth. And I will destroy all the birds in the air, because I am sorry that I have made them.”
8. But Noah pleased the Lord.
9. This is the history of Noah’s family. He was a good(Righteous) man all his life, and he always followed God.
10. Noah had three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

LisaAnneMia:
So if the coming of Jesus will be like Noah's time, that means that those who received grace first like Noah and then became righteous in the sight of God (cos of the grace they received first), does it mean it's these set of people that'll make heaven? Pls explain.

Luke 17 vs 26-37 (ESV)
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26. “When the Son of Man comes again, it will be the same as it was when Noah lived.
27. People were eating, drinking, and getting married even on the day when Noah entered the boat. Then the flood came and killed them all.
28. “It will be the same as during the time of Lot, when God destroyed Sodom. Those people were eating, drinking, buying, selling, planting, and building houses for themselves.
29. They were doing these things even on the day when Lot left town. Then fire and sulfur rained down from the sky and killed them all.
30. This is exactly how it will be when the Son of Man comes again.
31. “On that day if a man is on his roof, he will not have time to go inside and get his things. If a man is in the field, he cannot go back home. 32. Remember what happened to Lot’s wife[c]!

33. “Whoever tries to keep the life they have will lose it. But whoever gives up their life will save it.
34. That night there may be two people sleeping in one room. One will be taken and the other will be left.
35. There may be two women working together. One will be taken and the other will be left.”
36. [d]

37. The followers asked Jesus, “Where will this be, Lord?”
Jesus answered, “It’s like looking for a dead body—you will find it where the vultures are gathering above.”

LisaAnneMia:
The hall of faith in Hebrews 11, it was by faith Abel became righteous, and it was also by faith Noah became the heir of righteousness in verse 7. I really don't mind explanations for all these

MightySparrow:
Grace is an avenue provided by God for man to reach Him after the Fall. God located Abel, Seth( in his time men been to call on God), then Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Israel, then the whole world through Jesus.

What is grace? Unmerited favour. That is the popular definition. Yes through. God took man as they are initially, then made.a covenant with Noah, then Abraham and Israeli. These are also Grace because God designed them to reach Him.
What is the purpose of grace?
1. Reconciliation
2. Restoration
3. Riches
4. Revelation
5. Restitution
5. Resurrection

MightySparrow:
....And more as many things as lost in the Fall to bring man back to the original plan.
The Law though a form of grace, is to make man know the gravity of sin committed.
The grace of Jesus is like a cushion effect because the Law itself failed to bring man to perfection.
If you are given to science, I would liken it to a resistor called`shunt` this resistor took about 99.9% of effect of current on the instrument.

Matthew 11 vs 27-30 (ESV)
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27. All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
28. Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”

Mark 2 vs 16-17 (ESV)
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16. When some teachers of the law who were Pharisees saw Jesus eating with such bad people, they asked his followers, “Why does he eat with tax collectors and sinners?”
17. When Jesus heard this, he said to them, “It is the sick people who need a doctor, not those who are healthy. I did not come to invite good(righteous/perfect/holy) people. I came to invite sinners.”

MightySparrow:
Don't mind me Someone else can explain to you better but the summary is in Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. I was with Him on the cross spirituality to meet the needs of Justice. He bore the pain, but I the gains.

MightySparrow:
So, Grace of the Lord Jesus could be given as an scronym:
1. God` s Reconciliation at Christ`s Expense
2. God`s Restitution at Christ`s Expense
You could insert the test as re ∼ is to bring back.etc.
I am so sorry, I am a bit lazy typing I would have loved to insert many scriptures.
Somebody, please contribute to shed more light for this brother and me Al's to learn.
Thanks

lyrical:
Please am not really religious but was raised in the Catholic Church, I even attended a seminary school for about 5 years, after my university education, I was frustrated as started following the “yahoo trend”...
Now for 7 years, I have been working but nothing to show off just sustenance and eating fee.... no house no cars nothing... now some of my friend into this same thing has told me about going to bath cele soap , one even advise to go meet Alfa or native doctor to make your clients pay forever and be subjected to you! Now my friends am staying with recently went on to Lagos to get soap and oil perfume in our names including mine, but am skeptical of using the Soap, though it’s white with honey on top and oil perfume...

Please I need your undiluted truth especially from CCC members as regards bathing soap and use of oil, what is it’s significance? Because I believe every young boy using that is just to make money!
I ask again? Does this really work? And would I have to use it forever though I wouldn’t want to be a Cele number!

Please give me your advice from experience not from what you heard!
Shalom

Obioma3310:
7 Pastors with the most expensive private jets in Africa. Number 1 will shock you
Watch full video here �

poeticsoldier:
It is time Christians wake up from their slumber and stop being pawns in the hands of these politicians who are wolves in sheep clothes.

poeticsoldier:
They start fraternizing with the General overseers and great men of God just to gain relevance.They come to church and identify with your religion and every of your doctrines playing dumb just to get the pie and once it reach them,the rest is history.
Some of them are christians,some are muslims and some are atheists.They never have any good intentions for the masses,they only want to ride us like horses.

poeticsoldier:
2023 campaign has started and we have seen them paying homages to men of God whose advices they never respect all these whiles.
They have started flashing their burnt teeth,fetish teeth and waving their hands that have shed blood to shout hallelujah which they will not want to hear when they attain positions
Christians, don't let any man of God pushes you against your conscience.Dont be cajoled to adopt candidates rejected by heaven all in the name of our father in the lord says.

poeticsoldier:
Remember Simon the sorcerer how he was disgraced by Peter for his pretence.If our fathers in the lord are being so diplomatic by not acting like Peter who call a spade spade and we can't judge them for who they are,we can at least be wise and use our discretion.

poeticsoldier:
We are to be wise like the serpent and gentle as the dove.Dont repeat failure!Don't repeat hypocrisy!That someone identify with the church doesn't means he or she agrees with the church.The robes never make the monks.

poeticsoldier:
We are the light,let's stop shoving people into darkness by following dictates that are not heavenly but born out of selfish interest and accolades and not for the masses liberation and God's love.

AssumptaN:
https://youtu.be/j

sarjam05:
You must be really wise

sonmvayina:
You are still going to ask them...why dont you do it now..

andre45:
if church can decline a prospective pregnant bride from getting marriage in there church, why do they allow non prospective virgin bride to get marry. is the vows before marriage non broken as well that say a woman should remain pure until wedding night. if non virgin could marry in church I don't see any reason why pregnant woman should not get married in the church.

sonmvayina:
Jesus was created by the romans...has got nothing to do with God or the jews...

sonmvayina:
You are still going to ask them...why dont you do it now..

sonmvayina:
The jesus character was created out of a jewish concept of a messiah that was taken out of context by the romans. You are saying the old convenanat is for the jews only. But you foolishly clinging up to jesus.

And you still think you are normal...?

If you dont see your mumu, then am sorry, you are far lost than i expected.

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!
Job 38:38 Then YHVH spoke to Job out of the storm. He said: 2 “Who is this that obscures my plans with words without knowledge? 3 Brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer me.

Let the one who thinks he/she can make a mockery of the Scriptures of YHVH ALMIGHTY reveal his/her identity. If you are going to say all sorts of derogatory things about the Word of YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God, the Creator of heaven and earth, why not stand on an open platform and say them? Don't hide on a faceless platform and utter foolish things.

The Word of YHVH Almighty is the Bread of Life. If you, the atheists, are going to spit into the Bread of the saints, servants and messengers of Yahushua the Messiah, at least do it face to face. Yes, let us know your identity.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

fineboynl:
be specific with what you are saying because the verse didn't answer the question.

fineboynl:
if you think there are rules to fasting kindly help to list them.

this are my observation. during 6am to 3pm or 6am to 6pm fasting. some people wakeup very early between 3am to 5:30am to eat before 6am. so the fasting start by 6am.

there are other thoughts that the stomach needs to be completely empty before embarking on a fast. if there is already food in it then fasting became is a none and void.

I want to know if this fasting is valid? if one eat before 6am.

also there are some thought that during fasting it's not a must to pray. but others believe you must pray, and read bible and also pray hardly before breaking it.

kindly sheer your views