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EriMma1:
■ Hmmm... Sad but true.

These women aren't victims but enablers. The only victims are the children caught in such unions, many of whom then go on to repeat the mistakes of their parents going as far as to perpetrate the foolishness that is "men are polygamous and so ought to be allowed to cheat" nonsense that we have today.

Frando29:
■ Do you even understand what the mercy of God means?
■ You think you can remove God in the affairs of men? God is a constant...

1. The mercy of God, God told you, He pours out on every human being including the wicked and the ungrateful. Look at those who do not believe in God and see how they still thrive in their everyday lives. That is the mercy of God.

2. No one has said anything about removing God from the affairs of men as instead it is men who have removed God from their affairs by chasing after that which God has said has nothing to do with Him.

Queendera:
■ Lately men are complaining. And seriously it's getting to me like never before. I try to wrap my head around certain things and just couldn't understand it. It's this issue of a wife working and not really contribute to the family. How can you as a wife be working and somehow still feels only your husband should shoulder all the responsibilities? What exactly are you doing with your income if you are not spending it on your family? Is marriage not supposed to be partnership? It's one thing if the wife is not working but you are working and earning and yet only your husband is spending? And you as a man, you are actually stup*d to allow such nonsense from your wife. Gosh, some of you are so weak. Too weak I must say to give your wife such liberties.

1. You are not looking at this from the right angle at all.

This isn't a matter of weakness but inner conflict. Are Nigerian men ready to exist as partners in their marriage with their opinions carrying equal weight as that of their spouse? Are Nigerian men ready to also share the responsibility in other aspects of their union? Are they ready to let go of the Head-of-Household status that traditionally goes along with bearing 100% financial responsibility? Many of these men know that the moment they begin to share financial responsibility, they are likely to also share in cooking and other household chores in addition to losing their god-like status in marriage. Are Nigerian men ready for such a change?

If a man is ok with being a partner, all he needs do is make that clear to the woman he marries in his marriage agreement with her, and they both go from there.

Orfankwagh:
■ No be men generally,this is were women commit marriage abortion.
-A man will marry you just because ur good in bed
-others will do same if u're a good cook
-some are just looking out for the most beautiful
-some are looking for short ladies or busty ladies etc
You can't have everything in a single woman,so the purpose he married you must be sustained,then others will be added or subtracted onto that but if you deviated from the actual purpose everything go spoil

1. He has a point here, @EriMma1. If the reason a man chooses to marry a woman is based on any of the above, then the union is breached once the woman is unable to meet up with her side of the agreement, the same way a man deciding to seek sex outside of the marriage is equally a breach in his side of the agreement. So, why do women, when unable to continue with their end of the bargain, continue to remain in such unions when divorce is available in such situations?

God2man2again:
■ Exactly!
Jesus took the decision to die for us.
It was ordained that the son of man will
Sacrifice his life for mankind for remission of the sins of the whole world.

1. Jesus Christ said He did not sacrifice His life abeg! In John 10 vs 17 - 18, He explained that it is within His power to lay it down and pick it up again. How can that amount to a sacrifice abeg!

The same Jesus Christ explained in another passage that God does not want sacrifices of animals and the lot, so why do you keep insisting His death was a sacrifice when He said God does not desire such? Are you accusing Jesus Christ of going against God or something?

bobestman:
■ Stop being foolish. Do you obey him? You belong to those religions too and not even better than many of them.
■ Incase you still don't understand, ppl serve or obey God how their religions told them. I don't belong to any so e no concern me

1. How can I belong to religion when I instead submit to and obey God's direct Law something you religious folks reject en masse — the mere taught of living in obedience to God's Constitutional Law seems to repulse you a lot?

2. Here you go continuing to cast God as a liar. God said He never gave people religion, yet you continue to insist that by following religion, these people obey God. No be brain damage be this?

Shapeaso:
■ Wahala dey! he must go back to his wife and kids Wicked man.

1. Why must he go back to her? Why must she take back an adulterous man who abandoned her and her kids for a hooker? Why can't she simply divorce him and make sure to take him for everything she can?

EriMma1:
■How would she have known that he was that kind of person?
■ Or are you trying to tell me all men are naturally like that hence the need for her to be informed and well guided?
■How did we get here?

1. In Nigeria, the average married woman is already aware of her husband's straying, even though she pretends to herself that by remaining in the marriage and continuing to play a good and innocent wife, she is somehow removed from the problem. Through these many "innocent acts", these women establish themselves as enablers of adultery.

2. Not necessarily but we are all humans and we can all sense when things are no longer as they used to be. Our curious sides immediately urge us to dig to find out the reason for the change, no matter what it is. We develop suspicions and are forced to either act on them or feign ignorance.

3. We got here because married women, en masse, sitting tight in adulterous marriages, decided, that adultery had become an acceptable aspect of marriage.

EriMma1:
Why do some men do this? A woman that suffered to have three children for you, you abandoned and followed a side chick..what doen really want.

A better question would be why do women continue to do this to themselves? The wife must have been aware of the man's cheating. Why did she sit back and birth more kids for him knowing all that? Why did she sit back rather than divorce him before it got to this extent? What was she expecting to see happen?

Tk4all:
■ Come and take me to a police station if you can guarantee my safefty. I come to cybercafetomessage my email contacts and decided to post this here. i will mention you when i reach home and pen this story with facts

1. Ask for directions to the nearest police station and run there if you must. You never see people do am for movies before or wetin?

Tk4all:
seen is believing sir, i'm around pleasure park at karu market.

So you can't walk into a police station and ask that your family be notified of your whereabouts or something?

Tk4all:
I'm close to pleasure park that is in karu. i use my last money to buy time at a cafe to plead for help. my helper should locate me ijn

You no call police to at least notify your folks of your whereabouts, na helper you dey call instead?

Tk4all:
i'm begging anyone who is staying in abj or around to come to my rescue. i was kidnapped by unkwown people for almost week, its a wrong story but i wish to explain my ordeal when i get home. i did not take my bath for days, i can easily pass as mad man presently. i dont also have access to my phone and opay again cos they are sending otp to my lost line. pls i beg anyone aroud here to help.i hope to update this thread with the whole story once i get home

You were kidnapped and you didn't call the police or at least reveal your location and maybe use this avenue to send a direct message to someone who in fact knows of you? Your account shows you have been registered on nairaland since 2015 and this is the best you can do?

bobestman:
■ stop insulting yourself. Read what i said again. I said everyone does his command the way they understand. In other words, they serve God how they understand. Christians, muslims, judaism, traditionalists all claim to serve God. They do as it was written for them.

1. God says, "They do not obey Him", but you say, "They all obey Him in their own way— leaning on their own understanding and doing it their own way." So who should we believe here, God or you? Who's the liar here? God or you?

Orinechi:
■ Our is still serving us.
■ Those of u who who don't know how and where u started will alway claim what u have written above to safe face. If i may ask what aspect no longer serve man?

Serving you how?

2. This statement clearly reveals instead that you serve your culture and not the other way around.

BrighterThanDay:
■ Thank you Kobojunkie. I'm so stressed, I used to be a very industrious lady, one with many ideas to make money and fun to be with, I can just feel this marriage sucking the life out of me. I really want to end this. This emotional torment is too much for anyone.

1. The only reason that family is in your face is because your husband allows them interrupt your marriage. Again, marriage is an agreement between a man and a woman --- no third-party allowed in by law.

First thing first, you need to acknowledge the problem point which is your husband and not his siblings. He has no right to blame you for the state of his relationship with his family and he has no right to shove his family and their family matters in your face since that family is a separate unit from the family you have with your own husband. You are related by marriage but that should be that.

Second, since the situation is already as it is, I would advice to you start now working on finding yourself again. Marriage is not meant to remove from the individual but rather enhance the individual. They say two heads are better than one ... so when having two heads become worse than having just one that is to tell you that you are doing in all wrong. Please go back to work, find you and hobbies to occupy your time and mind. If you will benefit from professional mental health counseling, take advantage of it soonest so you do not allow another year to pass you by in this state. Let your children see and know that it is possible to stay strong and bounce back even during times of troubles.

Thirdly, before you consider seriously getting out, I will advice professional marriage counseling. You and your husband need to sit and at least acknowledge the core source of the headaches in your union. It is too easy to blame others when the fact is the power others have over you comes only from that door you open to them. Get a counselor to help mediate and find you two the best way forward so all parties involved are on the same page at the end of it all.

Marriage doesn't fail people. Rather it is the many ill-thoughtout strategies employed by the individuals in the marriage that fails them and acknowledging them for what they are is necessary to help one move on to making better choices and decisions in marriage.

Orinechi:
Appreciate ur own culture for once. In many culture my foot

Man was not made for culture. Rather culture was made for man. So, when culture no longer serves man, throw it away and find yourself something better abeg!

MindHacker9009:
■ To "look at" and to "beleive in" are not the same thing

1. To look at a particular object/subject — and not some other object in its vicinity — with expectation/mental accent that salvation is guaranteed by that act (of obedience) is not to be considered same as haboring belief attached to that particular object/subject?

MindHacker9009:
Moses did not tell the eople to beleive in the bronze snake but said Jesus said they should life him up like that and also beleive in him

Are you insinuating that the people didn't need to believe in that particular bronze snake that was lifted by Moses in order to be saved but in pretty much any snake around them in order to receive salvation from death at that time?

4 The Israelites left Mount Hor and traveled on the road that goes to the Red Sea. They did this to go around the country of Edom. But the people became impatient.
5 They began complaining against God and Moses. The people said, “Why did you bring us out of Egypt? We will die here in the desert! There is no bread and no water! And we hate this terrible food!”
6 So the Lord sent poisonous snakes among the people. The snakes bit the people, and many of the Israelites died.
7 The people came to Moses and said, “We know that we sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray to the Lord. Ask him to take away these snakes.” So Moses prayed for them.
8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a bronze snake and put it on a pole. If anyone is bitten by a snake, that person should look at the bronze snake on the pole. Then that person will not die.”
9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it on a pole. Then when a snake bit anyone, that person looked at the bronze snake on the pole and lived. - Numbers 21 vs 4 - 9

We are comparing the two scenarios here right? If we consider that Jesus Christ was not the only "snake" that was lifted up on the cross on that particular day, it follows then that a belief in Him as the particular snake to save from death was necessary since not any snake would do, don't you think?

MindHacker9009:
■Moses made and lifted up a bronze snake but not a bronze godman of Jesus

1. Based on the law you quoted, was Moses wrong for lifting up the bronze snake and commanding the people to look upon it in order to be saved? Give a reason for your response, please.

MindHacker9009:
■ Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images.
But
Jesus: "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up"

1. Interesting!

4 The Israelites left Mount Hor and traveled on the road that goes to the Red Sea. They did this to go around the country of Edom. But the people became impatient.
5 They began complaining against God and Moses. The people said, “Why did you bring us out of Egypt? We will die here in the desert! There is no bread and no water! And we hate this terrible food!”
6 So the Lord sent poisonous snakes among the people. The snakes bit the people, and many of the Israelites died.
7 The people came to Moses and said, “We know that we sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray to the Lord. Ask him to take away these snakes.” So Moses prayed for them.
8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a bronze snake and put it on a pole. If anyone is bitten by a snake, that person should look at the bronze snake on the pole. Then that person will not die.”
9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it on a pole. Then when a snake bit anyone, that person looked at the bronze snake on the pole and lived. - Numbers 21 vs 4 - 9

So, when Moses made and lifted up the bronze snake in the wilderness proclaiming that those of the people who looked upon it would be saved, you take it to mean that God in fact commanded Moses, against His own law, to make an idol which He then asked the people to worship it?

MindHacker9009:
Plus these:
Not to add to the Torah commandments or their oral explanations. (Deuteronomy 13:1)
Not to diminish any commandments from the Torah, in whole or in part. (Deuteronomy 13:1)

Jesus Christ did not add to nor diminish the Torah in any way or form - Matthew 5 vs 15 - 19. God made clear that YHWH was given only as a National Constitution in the Land of Canaan to the people of Israel - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - and Jesus Christ never added, changed, or removed from that Law in any way of form.

Cybertroll:

There are many obvious problems with these memes, born mainly from ignorance of what is in fact written in scripture.

1. Jesus Christ does not call to those who do not believe in Him. Instead, He came to call those who are sinners of the Lost sheep of Israel — atheists don't believe themselves sinners and are as such exempt. Also, Jesus Christ cannot do anything to anyone unless the one belongs to His Kingdom, so again, an atheist is well outside of His jurisdiction to save or do anything to.

2. Jesus Christ never said His death was a sacrifice - John 10 vs 17 - 18. He instead made it known that God does not want sacrifices of any kind - Matthew 9 vs 13 - so why would He then turn around to make Himself that which God does not care for?

3. It is the obedience to the command that matters, not the prayer itself.

jaephoenix:
1. 'Perceptions of men, words of demons and devils' are simply lies. Can the devil say something that is truthful?
2. I meant this your statement
So, it follows that all those who make it into becoming possessed by a spirit are the Lost sheep of Israel
Explain it

Read the passage and the response as many times as it will take you to grasp what is in fact stated abeg!

jaephoenix:
■ This is what you said
God's intention, as I believe it, is to minimize the number of those who in fact make it through to the Kingdom of God, particularly through the broad gate that will lead to eternal damnation.

1. So where do YHWH and Heaven come into that?

jaephoenix:
■ I'm confused. Just answer the question

1. Go back and re-read the comment you responded to abeg!

LordReed:
■ So the god used deception through men?
■ Do you have the blood of Jacob coursing through your veins?

1. Your claim.

2. Yep, literally!

jaephoenix:
1. So you're saying the intended contradictions and barefaced lies in the Bible was meant to deceive folks like you who aint Israeli, so you'd go to hell?
2. Care to explain the bolded

1. I never said anything about them being bare-faced lies. I instead said they are not the Truth of God — meaning they fall under what could be simply opinions and perceptions of men, words of demons, and devils.

2. what part of the statement do you not understand from what is written in the context of John 3 vs 1 - 8?

jaephoenix:
■ So basically you're saying Yahweh is tryna cut down on peeps that would make it to heaven? Whoa! Is there an accommodation scarcity in heaven or what, bro?

1. I never said any of this.

jaephoenix:
■ So tell me Kobo, are you Israelite or Israeli? Is not, what da fvck are you doing with the bible?

1. Did you not read the response at all?

bobestman:
■ where did i say God is a liar? Cos you don't understand me you want to make it look like am against God. Things i say are in the word. Your level of understanding is what matters. For truth speaks in silence and in riddles. Only the pure eyes and discerning heart can see and understand. Wait for it

1. By claiming everyone does His command, you declared Him an absolute liar and a fraud. You twist your own self into these corners and then you think you can wiggle out by insulting the intelligence of one who points it out? Come one now!!