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andrewbaba44:
People who speak of international experience knows nothing about football

If you don’t give a player the chance to play then we will have no single player with international experience because Na from somewhere person Dey start

Just as you said about mbappe

Busquets ,Pedro ,Piqué , none of these 3 players have international experience when they helped Spain to win the 2010 World Cup

I am baffled at the befuddled thinking of so many.

What should get you national team selection is your consistent, continuous and outstanding performance in your club and league.

You cannot come to the SE to learn anything you are there to bring what you already have.

It's been argued that Trent is the best RWB in the world. When he had a poor run of games he was dropped from the England squad. Nobody with poor club form is invited. This is what serious national team administrator's do.

It's your experience in your club and league that you will bring to the national team. Not your experience of tournaments.

When Mbappe was invited to the world cup he had no experience of playing in the world. He had the second highest transfer fee in his history of football. He had literally won everything going at the age of 18.

What experience did he need, he brought outstanding top class actually world class quality, unquestionably.

Stormtrooper11:
The Muslim part is a lie. Almajiris, little Muslim kids start memorization of the Quran from a little age. Stop lying without true facts.

I will not derail this discourse.

But I want you to consider this analogy, if we got CHILDREN boys from 5 years old in the villages of the south, denied them the right to an education. So they effectively cannot read and write and their educational development non existent.

Locked then in a room and got them to recite and memorise the Bible in Aramaic day in day out. Then when they are hungry they will go out to the streets to beg .

After 10 years of that depraved abuse , would you say they know the bible and understand it.

I have no more to say .

bazooka1:
When the knowledge is hidden from you, how will you know?
You're not even allowed to ask deep questions about God, Christ and the church. Some questions you want to ask, they will label you possessed.

Very simple ask no one , seek no man just read your BIBLE.

Danielnino00:
Why don't you apply the here and now to Ighalo that you seem desperate to go to the AFCON? isn't he playing in Saudi Arabia?

In the here and now, Maduka hasn't been convincing in the super eagles.. Uzoho hasn't been convincing either,but he's definitely better than Maduka as far as the super eagles is concerned...
The goalkeeper slot is very much open, so using league or club strength to rate one player over the other won't work...

Your double standard and favouritism, is without restraint it's so blatant.

If you don't use a players club and league performance week in week in week out , what else are you supposed to use Oh he was not born in Nigeria therefore he can't be good enough.

With regards to Ighalo in the HERE and NOW plus the PAST and PRESENT he was the highest goal scorer in the AFCON.

He has gone to Saudi to cash in, not because he cannot get a club in the EPL.

If he proves himself fit and ready then he is our best proven striker PAST and PRESENT.

tutudesz:
Babajide with slipper

And helmet no body armour big belle exposed Lol

dijon:
His ball passing skill does not exist.
He tends to balloon the ball upward to no man in particular.
He makes rash decision when put under pressure defensively.
His tackling is mind boggling...
He often times score own goals because he does not have the body to change his direction against goal bound crosses.
I can continue with a lot of his deficiency but let me leave it at this few ones but mind you Omeruo has his own issues defending too but he is the lesser devil.

He plays in the EPL if he was that bad he would not be there. He is not outstanding in the EPL but he is not that bad.

I presume you are using his club and league performance in recent times to come to this deduction.

bazooka1:
You said something earlier about the Bible being a tool for mind control. That's just it.
Can't believe I'm agreeing with you on something after our little snafu earlier. Amazing.

Absolutely not.

Lazy Christian are a tool for anybody to manipulate and or subjugate, because the TRUTH can only set you free if you KNOW IT

If you know the word of God �� you cannot be decieved, but if you don't you are already DECIEVED

safarigirl:
The Ethiopian Bible is even different to an extent.

A lot of Christians in Nigeria have barely read the KJV, how much more the Catholic Bible? And there are still canons that remain in the Vatican, unseen by most of the world. Parts of the Bible that only the higher echelon of priests have access to.

In my opinion only 20% of Christians have read the Bible completely only 10% Actually study it and less than 5% meditate on it. And I don't want to speculate on the number who actually follow and obey it.

It follows for Muslims less than 7% of Muslims have read the Koran.

In both religion lazy People prefer for someone with a title to tell them what the Bible says and means .

PurpleHouse:
Racism and black skin and age cheat alligations, brought Uzoho down. He's a great lad who lost confidence after going downwards.

Expand please

Racism hindered a plethora of Cameroon goalkeeper over the years or RACISM hindered Enyeama, and currently Onana and Mendy.

Do you think Europeans football Managers do not know we age cheat in Africa.

Ndidi failed an MRI scan and was released from in the U17 his official age never changed did that affect him ❓

If he lost confidence that's really about his capacity and ability nothing to do with anyone else.

PurpleHouse:
Yes, agreed! Perspective comes into play here. No arguments.


But, Drogba is reverd in chelsea mostly. Not Europe (atleast to some extent).. Winning the Afcon would have sealed his name in Africa forever. But even at that, he is still a household name because he did well for both club and country.

My point is: players like Dennis and Osimhen could play in their clubs and be forgotten in a couple of years and then replaced by some new legends. But winning the Afcon will seal their name in history books forever. Thats my point. Africa is the focal point here. Not Europe.

Or they could put thier club career in Jeopardy end up loosing money.

Retire and be begging NFF for job like some very hungry ex international have done.

bazooka1:
That's the same team we struggled to beat with 2 freak goals and made them look like prime Barca in Lagos.

Many people are calling them weak and poor, what then does that make us the Brazilians of Africa

12large1:
Omeruo has been our best defender in the past few tournaments

No he has not.

Joebie:
very weak Cape Verde team. This Ethiopian team looks easy to destroy.

We played them over two legs , do you remember the score ❓

And if they are so weak should we not be flogging them ❓❓

Danielnino00:
Stop saying what u don't know..
Uzoho played two laliga games for his club before making his super eagles debut..
He had more experience than Okoye who was brought from the German fourth division...

That's outstanding performance two whole games that's 180 minutes.

Thankfully you used the past tense had .

We are now talking in the HERE and NOW and where is Uzoho and where is Okoye.

I rest my case

dijon:
Honestly, you just highlighted Omeruo's Defensive errors that were capitalised on by our opponents.

He used to be a very dependable defender during the early days of his national team sojourn whether in juniors or senior team. Old age, career path, and diminishing returns.

Would prefer Awaziem to partner him because Ekong in my own opinion is worse than Omeruo. Awaziem with his ball passing skill will hide and cover up for Omeruo defensive weekness

Why do you say Ekong is not good enough.

ChrisKels:
So, until the white men brought Christianity to Africa, Africa was in bondage? Lol tell me something

So all these other people who don't practice this religion are already going to hefaya?

Actually the first church of Christ was in Ethiopia.

And Christianity went from here to Europe not the other way. The scriptures have remained intact but the imagery decidedly deceptive and WHITE WASHED

Mujtahida:
Omeruo is really a wack defender. We always concede cheap goals when he's in defense
Our first match against Zambia enroute Russia 2018, he made us concede

At the WC proper he couldn't close down on Messi. Messi scored

last afcon against Cameron, he couldn't clear the incoming cross even though he was in front of the defender. Cameroon equalized

Still same match, a long ball from midfield, Omeruo couldn't head it out. He was out jumped. Cameron went 2-1 up

In the match against Algeria, he couldn't clear his lines. Algeria scored first.

Omeruo no good abeg

He wasn't just out jumped but bullied like a youth player playing first team player's.

Balogun and even Awaziem I don't think will be bullied like that.

andrewbaba44:
Chipo Moting on Cameroon bench

I am sure if it’s the super eagles some people for this thread go don Dey say why dem go bench Bayern Munich player for player we Dey Saudi Arabia

He is proven tested and consistent in over many seasons. He is the equivalent of our Ighalo who had gone to certain leagues to fill his bucket with £££$$$€€€€

However , his is not disrespected and abused by the fans as we do to him here. Maybe because Cameroon have a history of older player's performing like Roger Milla.

Icon4s:
I am still not comfortable with him. I would still be more comfortable with a more tested Uzoho.

In my opinion you come to the National team set up bring in your proven tested and consistent outstanding performance from your club and league.

You do not come to the SE to get tested.

PurpleHouse:
Well I don't agree he should have rejected the move, he needs the challenge to make him better, rather than shining in a local league as a local championhe will now see fire for fire and seat up.

Uzoho is our best keeper. Na Agu and Rohr dey decieve themselves. A player like Uzoho with world cup and nations cup "classic" experience, you begin bench am for a neebie. Is there sense there?

Uzoho was selected as a newbie had not played a first team game for his team. Because there was nobody better.

I really dont know who is better, but the school boy error shown on a clip, by Uzoho does not Inspire confidence.

But one despite his playing for Nigeria and going to the world cup , has remained in the lowly Cyprus league WHY ❓ If he is so good. The few number of games he has played for his club says he many not even be number one.

Maduka Okoye plays in the much higher Eredivisie has been climbing upwards over the past few years. He is clearly the number one goal keeper.

Whoscored stats are indicative who may be the better goalkeeper.

I am not sure why but Whoscored don't have him any ratings.

seankafor:
Imagine our 3 strikers, clubs took us for a ride..

Not only that, we let it slide like some pvssy or something..

Pinnick is a woman wrapper

If a player really wants to come, he will come.

Yes it may cost him millions but if he is prepared to say goodbye to lucrative contracts and his position in his club. He will absolutely come.

But in the reality we don't want to face is many will not.

PurpleHouse:
Why shouldn't we blame them

So who should we blame?

Because my boss pays my bills, he'll now tell me to snub my family and stay in the office for one week without seeing my family or doing my responsibilities, when I know you won't allow any other person try such with your own family?

Naaah.

Can a German/USA/Russian club hold back an Italian player from playing for their country? O'Boy 3rd world war go start be that.

You are a Nigerian l believe.

What will majority of Nigerians choose loss of possible millions£$€ or patriotism to thier Country, in the name of playing in AFCON.

Many wil say in private, " Who NFF and AFCON help"

COOL10:
I wonder what those who have constantly criticized Dennis over the past few days would have to say about Osimhen's covid case.

But you should know one rule for one and another for others.

We practice double standard and Favouritism in the open.

PurpleHouse:
Told you guys that Napoli will declare Osimhen ready this week. Well they just confirmed he has tested negative. Dude was blocked by whatever means from representing Nigeria just so they could have him.

Make Osimhen nor make me come dislike am ooh. The love I have for him is massive. I was among those who felt he should stay away from Afcon ONLY if his doctors feel he is not fit and healed. But seems he's healed and fit. Napoli just didn't want to lose him and miss out on the Seria-A title.

Anyway, na him sabi. African players are not known in history for their club exploits, they're recognized for their exploits here— in "Africa Cup Of Nations."

I think that's a question of perspective, European will know him for what he has done in Europe and even many Africans.

For instance what is Drogba known for Chelsea and Champions League or AFCON ❓

andrewbaba44:
Osimhen have no choice than to corporate

Nobody should blame Dennis as I said earlier ,and nobody should also blame osimhen for doing so .

Agreed without question

DefHQ:
He didn't... He badly wanted to be at the Afcon.

When it comes to these matters unless you are privy to the very limited inner circle.

Nobody, will really know what went on or did not.

bazooka1:
Why won't he spill it? He is not a talented goalkeeper. This bunch is the worst set of goalkeepers we have every produced to a major tournament.

I would not call Maduka Okoye bad, he plays in the Eredivisie he is quite clearly the number one goalkeeper for his club.

Uzoho made a School boy error hopefully it is a one off.

TheSuperNerd:
I have a really good feeling about Kelechi at this Afcon. Ismael Bennacer of Algeria was still at Empoli when he went to the Afcon with Algeria and shone so Bright. Immediately after the Afcon, lad signed for Milan.

This Afcon is gonna be huge for Kelechi. Not just him though. I feel Aribo's next move is also gonna be kinda linked to his Afcon showings.

Wishing our lads the best of the very best.

Whatever Aribo's does his performance in the AFCON will make little or no difference to where he goes.

It's looking very likely Aston Villa where he already has an excellent relationship with Gerrard and Villa are willing to spend money.

For Gerrard to convince Coutinho to come to Villa and take on board a huge % of his enormous wage bill.

That really is remarkable it shows the ambition of the club and they are willing to back it up with £££.

humility33:
Your response is only laced on nwakali incessant attacks

Now take time respond to his other observations that you delight in talk Ing down Nigeria born players for your British born players

You easily criticise Oshimen and quickly create an excuse for Tammy for same reason u criticise Oshimen

To u the innit boys are way better than Nigeria groomed players and all you do here is to constantly belittle this lads for your innit boys

Just like we have Indenna who has something against Anglo Nigeria kids and some progressing Nigeri a players like Ndidi abroad

To make the claim and or allegation you need to be specific not general.

jihday:
Google is free tho but I guess you used to be Moyes assistant

I don't do Google.

I could actually say a lot more about what happened and even the highly volatile altercations, but all that's stuff is privileged confidential.

I was NEVER Moyes assistant.

But I am trying to think not who I knew in Everton but who l did not know and I am not talking players but coaching be staff , recruitment and analysis.

But that may be to convulated for you to appreciate and or understand.

Mujtahida:
Nooo acknowledge your bias. That's the honest thing to do. You have very strong bias for 'innit players' (as humility33 calls them)
And really there's nothing bad about it. We all have our biases. But to constantly put down certain players in the name of objectivity gives you away. You think you are the most objective person here but you are not. Imagine that for over two weeks you talk negatively about Nwakali everyday and your points are basically the same - Every goddamn day.

Think am ooo

First of all is there anything I have said that's untrue.

I understand bias in the negative to mean, distorted, inequitable, unfair , not balanced and discriminatory negative.

Every day you hype him anything he does is classed is excellent , he takes a free kick that's technically poor and you say world class.

Would you give the same accolades and commendations to Lukaku as you would with Joe Linton ( Newcastle) or would you do the same with Trent Alexander and Ritchie at (Newcastle) in comparison.

So why would you want me to give someone the same accolades when they have dramatically different level of achievement. One outstanding and the other abysmal.

You want me to be favourably biased and talk up a player and exaggerate his attributes to the point of deceit. WHY

In other words you want me to be favourably biased but untruthfully.

Sorry NO

jihday:
sorry but this is false, Yobo was injured shortly before that tournament managed to get fit and played the first game then suffered another injury during the second game of the Afcon. This means Yobo was out for about 2-3 months, injury dropped Yobo not Afcon

Yes very false , because you were in there .