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BascoVanVeli:
That is old news, Isaac got past that.

How do you know❓ He is still struggling with fitness is he diligent, dedicated and disciplined with a clear motivation to succeed.

Look at KC it may not be going his way but you can see he is trying to get back to a level of quality. I don't see that in Success.

andrewbaba44:
Collins is not doing badly sha, 16 games 1 goal and 2 assists , about same stats with okoroji in the german 2nd division

But for now i prefer ola aina at left back and awaziem at right back

But if no aina at left back then it should be collins

When the desirable is not available the available becomes desirable ❓

Collins was not the highest rated player in the match quite far off actually. His team remain at the bottom of the Bundesliga lost 10 games won 3 and have 3 draws the are bona-fide relegation candidates.

His stats are not impressive but the opposite.

Without bias look at Paderborn and ask the question can the beat the a bottom team in the Championship ❓ I don't think so. I can not see them beating Etebo's Stoke, in comparison of player quality Stoke is higher indeed on all comparison finance, stadium size, fan support, etc Stoke the bottom team of the Championship is ahead.

I am trying to highlight the true quality of the bottom segment of the Bundesliga. Because that quality hinges on the supposed quality of Collins.

He has not been outstanding for club and league that's the reality. Again statistics are indicative not conclusive when taken in context we have a better appreciation. I watched his match yesterday but couldn't watch in full it was too boring and lacked quality.

NFF need to find a better left back where from ❓

edi287:
Well they just signed one highly rated Brazilian kid.
Success needs to leave for his own sake. I know that 50k dey sweet am but...

The answers concerning Success can be seen in the lengthy contract he signed.

Nobody, is going to sign him and pay him stupid money to do NUTTIN he has one choice to run down his contract.

Then try and salvage his career in a lower league and he needs to be focused and disciplined. Too many reports of him being unfit. That's unacceptable for any professional footballer.

fabyom:
You behave the same way, I am not surprised you agree to the post without reading the content critically. Na your way be that too.

I agreed with that individual post in isolation which was not highlighting previous issues or subjects but talking in general.

In addition making a sensible proposition about conduct on the forum. If you have issues with that then examine yourself too.

I don't know what you mean by " Behave the same way "

jihday:
for most of his club career, he's played from the wings even played it in a 352 formation for arsenal. So he's not new to being a winger

In Arsenal it's a tactical game based on tactics and strategy.

With Duncan it's Do or Die, Blood and Guts, effort effort effort, work work. You ate effectively trying to grind out results by work rate determination and aggression. It's very basic but effective.

Iwobi l am sure has never ran up and down attacking and defending so much in his entire career. Iwobi has never WORKED SO HARD in 4/5 consecutive games ever.

No suprise he got injured.

Blueelf:
I'm not attacking any player. I point out their flaws. Once upon a time, I attacked KC Nacho more brutally than this yet I praised him when he started doing well.

If we dey argue ball, there is no need to go personal and start asking about each other's lifestyle or way of living. I respect all our guys plying in Europe especially those born in Naija that beat almost insurmountable odds to get there.

Agreed without reservation or question

Mickael2:
This isn't my perspective really, I am using stats and you are using...well whatever it is you are using. Tomorrow I will try as much as I can to find a site that will compare his first 9matches from last season with that of this season, judging based on what I have seen, he has about 15 key passes this season and j remember in one of the first matches he played last season against Real, he had about 5 key passes in one game, and his average from last season was 2.4 as against the 1 it is this season. These are facts and not assumptions. But let is agree to disagree

Watching a game live and what the stats say are very indicative and not conclusive.

I never rely just on stats you need to see the things stats don't cover and you can only see that from watching the full game.

For instance defenders in a relegation team may have the highest number of blocks, tackles and. Interceptions. Essentially because they are under seige and spending all thier time defending. It then statistically gives the impression of very good defenders when actually it's a poor team with poor players.

Mickael2:
I really don't see Liverpool beating them. Around the 75 minute mark, Leicester effectively started conserving energy for Liverpool and considering Liverpool played 120mins plus the inevitable fatigue that comes with traveling all the way to Qatar, well I really believe that Leicester will not lose to Liverpool.

Liverpool will beat them.

jihday:
Why?

I am sure there must be some sports scientists in the house. Who should understand what I'm talking about.

When a player who has not based his game on sprinting up and down the line at full pelt.

Suddenly and dramatically changes his game to become a hard working winger. The stress on the hamstrings for player who is not use to that will eventually over stress those muscles and get tear in the muscle hopefully it will not be a major tear.

He really needs more recovery time and should not really play more than 60 minutes to develop resilience in those muscles.

He should have a tailor made exercise regime pre match and after the match from his sports scientists and physios. It seems he did not.

Blueelf:
Oga, Iwobi na overrated player. Me, I no dey sentimental. The only guys that are close to World class in our team now include Osimhen and Ndidi. The rest are trying but Iwobi is just too average and doesn't justify the hype. Kai

Ndidi a big YES.

But Osimhen has a very long way too go but he on a good pathway to learn and develop more.

Blueelf:
Turns out you're right.

So disappointed with LFC now

They actually got flogged today.

The 3-1 score line doesn't reflect the true dominance of Man city today. It was if I'm right 10 shots to 1 by Leicester.

I am now afraid for Leicester they don't have strength in depth. If Vardy get suspended or injured then thier season effectively over.

Thier next few games crucial l dont them ending the season as no 3 in the table. I see the big boys catching up on them irrespective of thier 10 point lead.

charlesemeka85:
I would have mentioned them but iorfa currently is on beast mode. I see that guy taking omeruo's place in the super eagles if given a chance.

The edge he has over omeruo is that he is taller and versatile ie can play comfortably in the cb, rb and DM positions just like awaziem

Add to that he is arguably the fastest player in the Championship.

He has pace to burn.

Soon and very soon him and Ovie will be wearing the green and white then completented by Eze later on.

BascoVanVeli:
Vardy just hit form when Rodger came what are u talking about? He was even complaining under the former coach

Vardy has been consistently scoring goals in the past four.

However, under Brendan he has taken goal scoring to another level the team playing to his strengths. 17 goal in the EPL before Christmas is not Ewah and Dodo.

charlesemeka85:
I am saying currently. I have been following Onomah right from his days in spurs youth teams. Then he was miles ahead of ejaria and Eze was unknown then.

He tasted first team football when ovie was still playing u19 footie for Liverpool while Eze was on the verge of giving up on football.

But now the reverse is the case. I seen him few times this season and I must confess he is a shadow of his old self. He is still young and hv the chance to bounce back again

I agree he no longer dominating as he use too.

Let's see how he will progress in the next few weeks after his goal today.

But l am sorely dissapointed l expected so much more from him.

charlesemeka85:
Ekong, semi, awaziem are all ahead of him. Awaziem tops him cus he can be deployed in 2 positions unlike omeruo and more physically imposing as well

Also awaziem is better technically ie he is good on the ball than omeruo

Yes better technically physically a VERY BIG CAPITAL NO he is not better when it comes to physicality than any of the existing CB'S.

Then when it comes to pace the only person he may contend with is Ajayi in the entire SE team but he isn't neccesarily better than Ajayi technically speaking.

He is make shift in everything he does never actually excelling in any one position. Way TOO SLOW to be a wingback and a liability.

Why is he there in the SE ❓

What you need are players with clear outstanding competence in one position but able to play in another competently. That's true versatility.

Awaziem is jack of all trades master of none.

charlesemeka85:
eze and ejaria are better players than him but he is better than nwakali jnr

Well not exactly.

And that's for now at a stage he was way ahead of both of them.

A few injuries and lost his form but let's see he is not a passenger in Fulham and or bench warmer.

He has played 10/11 games this season after his move from Tottenham. So he is progressing more than slowly and he is being consistent.

But come on to compare him to Nwakali is more than comedy. They are VERY FAR APART.

Blueelf:
He continues like this for the season and I see him in the LA liga next season

Well l don't unless you are talking a team that's not really challenging for the title and or competing in Europe.

Kayode has played in Europe did exceptionally well them got entangled with Man City. That didn't help his career.

Going to Shaktar was good but he didn't do good enough to get recognition. If he did he would not be in Turkey that's the harsh but bitter truth.

That means there are still question marks he needs to go to a quality league in Europe and prove his quality and there will be no doubt.

Blueelf:
Bros, even on paper, they aren't getting flogged.

On paper from the front Aguero, Mahrez, Raheem, Gabriel the only person contending them upfront for quality is Vardy.

Midfield it's just Ndidi with top quality comparative to De Bruyna, Sylva.

Defence Walker and Mendes and Ferdidho

The only thing games are not won on paper but let's see. I still think City have it

charlesemeka85:
saw him in some games this season for fulham and he loved washed off. i hope he regains his mojo

I knew him when Ehiogu (RIP) Ferdinand and Ramsey were the U18 coaches at Tottenham. Then Tega was full of tricks and show boating but then as he became older he emphasised more about end product and controlling the game.

Watched him in training and matches and when he is on his game looks top class. But that thing CONSISTENCY is absolutely vital for a midfielder on my opinion he seems to lack.

I had rated him above both Ovie and Eze but they are ahead of him now. Imagine when Eze was getting released he was already playing first team for Tottenham.

This is unpredictability of football.

tbaba1234:
Leicester is a very good team

Absolutely but they don't have the strength in depth that city have albeit on paper.

And City area better team who have lost thier previous consistency somewhat. I see City Winning but just and l dont want to see a boring draw.

andrewbaba44:
Onyekuru went to afcon

Onyekuru was also scoring for fun in Belgium but was ignored

Should we say rohr doesn’t rate Belgium league ?

This is a guy that started playing first team football at the age of 17/18 in the Belguim first division. That's quite remarkable in itself.

Then he dominated the league has been very consistent over the 4 seasons with quality.

The move to Everton was not a good one for him in my opinion. He was never going to get a work permit for the EPL.

But he has been largely ignored before anybody knew Chukwueze name, Onyekuru was making waves. In all honesty, l cannot say conclusively who is better. But in this forum it will be Chukwueze.

My conclusion is he has not been treated fairly by the NFF and Rohr.

Leicester are going to have a very long evening.

On paper they are getting flogged.

But it's football anything can happen but speaking objectively. I really can not see how Leicester can beat City.

You have two very good Managers and then the small trouble of dealing with De Brunya.

TheSuperNerd:
Josh Onomah scores for Fulham against Leeds Utd... Fulham lead 2-1 after 84 mins.

At last he scores his first goal this season it's long been over due.

In all honesty I have been quite disappointed l really expected him to be having dominance in the league and showing his quality. It simply has not happened.

Same thing for Chuks Aneke he has become completely injury prone.

jihday:
Iwobi don pull hamstring o

I don't mean it in a bad way.

But l am not suprised it was almost inevitable.

maidaboi:
so you don't when he was the best player according to southgate

I don't think Gareth Southgate even knows his name.

To even suggest that Gareth Southgate rated him as being " best player " possible when he was teenager making waves but nit in recent times.

daveP:
Andrew...... Osimhen isnt average atall.... Neither is Iwobi.....


[b]Martial this season underperforming and Osimhen is doing better than him [/b]so osinhem is above average.... So is Iwobi.... We didnt say they are B+ grade players or A players... But they are at most B players.... Or C+ if you dont wana agree.....

And of course they play in the same league so that's a good balanced assessment.

LaMujer:
just admit your misrepresentation and proceed naa, it won't cost a thing


@bolded can you even hear yourself? It doesn't have a unit of measurement, none of us here are kids, and when you say a long time, you certainly weren't refering to "last week"

You said he hasn't been on there in a long time, i proved you wrong, and instead of you to admit and go "jejely" you're asking for my substance of argument.


My substance of argument was to prove you wrong and make you take back your words

One question within the context of the discourse which is if KC is an IN- FORM striker.

You can't prove me wrong in any way shape or form. My stand is very simple KC is improving undoubtedly but he is not an IN- FORM striker and or forward player.

In that context what have you proved wrong that l said he had been in the weekly ratings once when it's actually twice we presume this season.

How does that impact on the substance of my view with regards to him being IN- FORM or not.

You are digressing from the discourse to a pedantic irrelevance.

All this is simply academic mumbo jumbo the two preceding season give us a very clear and objective position where KC was, is, and may be currently going now.

This season he has improved had a big hiccup recently. But l hope he plays against the club that let him go and scores a hat trick this evening.

Then he is very much on the way to becoming IN-FORM and his previously downgraded value will rise very quickly.

Finally, there is a big difference between inaccuracy and misrepresentation go back to your English Dictionary. It won't cost you nothing to upgrade and download to your understanding.

wayodude:
True there is no equation that scientifically links time played to probability not scoring. But statistics if used properly are a reliable guide.

Statistics used in what way.

charlesemeka85:
i have given up on the guy tey tey na una just dey stress una self. he really need to work extra hard to make it in professional football

his current ordeal was caused by the nff and coaches of our underage teams who pampers him too much by inviting him for games when he is yet to do anything tangible since leaving the shores of africa to europe.

he is always lazy,clumsy and too relaxed to my liking which is evident in his body language during games. talent without hard work na nonsense

Agreed without reservation.

But l blame the player more not the NFF who are still not excused.

He must be reading Nairaland and believing TheSuperDelusional hype and wild accolades SPECIAL TALENT. And decided not to work hard and be focused.

He had opportunity but threw it in the bin.

edi287:
Xhaka is average man. Dude lacks mobility, pace and isn't press resistant.
Give him space and he's the second coming of Xabi Alonso. Put him under the slightest amount of pressure and the dude fumbles.
Bundesliga will suit him well Sha..

I don't totally disagree with you but it's the tag AVERAGE yes he isn't particularly outstanding and can be consistent.

But this same Xhaka will walk into the SE.

Now if you were to call any of our players apart from say Ndidi and now Osimhen average you would get lynched here and be labelled HATER.

jihday:
Eze to Tottenham speculation growing stronger

QPR don't gave the financial stability to say no to a substantive offer from Tottenham. All that's happening is posturing by QPR in a shirt while Eze will be a Tottenham player.

What a mercurial rise barely three years ago Millwall released as Eze not good enough. He was on his way to working in Tesco and going to College.

This is the unpredictability of football sometimes but in his case knowing Millwall l will call a spade a spade Racism.

tbaba1234:
NFF President Amaju Pinnick said: "If Gernot Rohr does not accept our new offer, as Timaya said, '’I cannot kill myself’ and we would shop for a new manager to take over.”

The public differences over the last few months make it very clear that all is not well with that once cosy relationship.

Amaju and Rohr have been having difficulties and difference but alarmingly in the public domain. With Rohr trying to assert some control over the domineering Amaju.

My suspicion is a contract is offered but on different terms. I also doubt if Rohr will agree to sharing a substantial part of his pay packet with the powers that be.

In the end the contract signed will be devoid of Egunje arrangements. Amaju with the EFFC and other bodies watching him is in a weak position and the contract will be signed.

For me Rohr has been the best thing that has happened to Nigerian football in a long time.