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elyte89:
I think with Chelsea having a good season …he stands a chance of representing England

Na dt ugochukwu no sure for (France)

I think deres anoda Nigerian midfielder too aside ugochukwu in Chelsea?

Chukwuemeka Carney

Napoleon55:
Egusi bitter leaf soup is probably the best soup and most healthy soup.
u should try it.

I think my favourite soup 🍲 is Edikang Ikong , followed by Banga.

Napoleon55:
This boy's rejection over a white boy,
what should we call it?
corruption? prejudice?

It's quite complicated.

That oyibo is the son of a senior official in EPL club who had past working relationships with the English FA Director and coaches.

Who decided that their relationships of mutual benefit was more important than merit.

However,it's temporal once we get into U17/18 excellence becomes difficult to hide.

ChrisKels:
Another empty talks. Organise it and show us pictures and videos as evidence the way Doherty does. We still have pictures of Michael Obafemi when Doherty did his in England. Yours are always empty talks without substance. You don't need oniovo's approval to do that, abi you dun dey already look for excuses through that path?

Air Peace has already crashed the flight ticket through that route. If na flight ticket I can buy for one player when they come, just to ensure you organize it. Enough of the empty words mai'friend.

Bitter leaf 🌿 at work 🤢

Marjoribanks:
A player that consistently miss sitters is not good enough for the Super Eagles!
Dessers is not good enough for us.

Osimhen, Boni, Awo, Moffi, and Kele!

Kele can play few other roles!

Statistician by what unit of measurement did you place KC in that list please 🥺

Marjoribanks:
Judging a player by number of goals and appearance shows a statistician that lacks quality ... Even one goal from open play in 6 is a poor return.
A good statistician consider many factors such as chances created, missed, shot on target, off target etc not the peripheral of just goals and appearance.
Based on those factors Dessers does not deserve Super Eagles call.
I am not just a statistician/mathematician myself, I am an economists as well therefore other factors are important to me.
Lookman is not a striker but you can see the talent there. Moffi was great at AFCON.
Sadiq has been poor just like Dessers.

What you claim to be which I have no doubts is not what your anchor ⚓ most of your responses upon.

You are more emotive preference than objective measurement.

Joebie:
I no get ur last paragraph

Out delta boys when I see na only pidgin ( broken) dem fit speak 🗣️ they cannot speak 🙊 Uhrobo or Isoko.

Meanwhile the boys with Igbo and Yoruba parents a good number can speak 🗣️ Yoruba and Igbo and some have never been to Nigeria.

I was thinking of organising an excursion trip to Nigeria for like 10-20 players of Nigerian origin to Nigeria in the U17 age group who all play for EPL clubs

What do you think ❓

There is certain U15 striker that plays for Chelsea astounding ability. He plays alongside Thiago son for Chelsea.

He was called to the England trials but rejected for a white player who cannot stand on any comparison with him. It's like comparing darkness 🌑 to light 🕯️.

But our guy was rejected , if Nigeria had a relationship and strategy there boys would 🦘 to play for Nigeria.

But alas they will not sign with NFF agents and sign contract that will enrich NFf officials. So I can't see that happening.

Napoleon55:
Where exactly did I have it completely wrong?
that we should not have competent coaches manage our age grades and discover talented players to be developed and nurtured for future use?

Many great players came through from our youth program or age grade teams.
The likes of
Kanu,
Babayaro,
Oruma,
Mikel,
Osimhen,
Ikpeba,
Chukwueze,
Ndidi,
Iheanacho,
Awoniyi etc.

It was after good performance from from age grade competitions that most of these players were signed by European clubs.

Do u think an incompetent coach would be able to spot good and talented players and train them into a championship winning team?
there by exposing them for everyone to see making it easier for them to attract foreign clubs and becomes professionals for supers eagles coaches to select

Or what would u have us do?
wait for those foreign born with all those privileges,trained from the cradle by foreign clubs,
then start dragging them with other countries, start holding meetings upon meetings with their parents, agents and their representatives before we can get some of them to play for us,yet we won't be able to get the best of them to represent us no matter how hard we try.

No,we are much more capable of producing our our talents who would represent us with pride,it does matter where they end up being nurtured and trained into a full blown professionals.

Consider the players in bold they were primarily nurtured and developed in Europe. They did not hit the ground running and even now there are gaps in their development that can be seen even today.

The others players brought their swag 😎, skill, technical ability, tenacity, athletic ability straight from Nigeria to Europe and hit the ground running. Players like Kanu, JJay, Ikpeba, Mikel, etc .

That era of footballers ⚽⚽⚽ we no longer have and or produce. Europe has upped the game in players development but we have remained stagnant.

If you plant ground nuts 🥜🥜 you will not harvest Yam 🍠🍠. We don't have a good professional and quality league with good academy systems for players progression. We have a duplicity of football ⚽ academies across the country, with one objective sell players to European clubs. That's not development but business for profit.

You may want to disagree with me but thses boys have manufactured ages and on arrival in Europe many have short shell lives and don't get to high heights.

Many are abandoned in Europe washing cars for a living unwilling to return back to Nigeria with broken 💔 dreams.

I don't think we are with the current infrastructure facilities coaching staff capable of producing player's that can hit the ground running in top leagues of Europe 🌍. Like the way Ikpeba, Mikel, Keshi, Kanu, Finidi, Olise did in their time.

There are thousands of Nigerian origin players in football ⚽ academies across Europe not all can play for their European countries of birth. Some will reject their countries of birth and play for their fatherlands.

But then imagine I got players from Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United & City😞, Arsenal, to flood the U17 all of you will start crying 😭 discrimination and favouritism. They are discriminating against our home born boys.

We don't like competence in Nigeria we prefer emotional preference not excellence.

charlesemeka85:
🇦🇷🗣️ Lionel Scaloni: "We are losing the essence of football. Not only at a professional level, but also with kids."

"My children play in Spain and are overwhelmed with information. They receive the ball, and they're already being told what to do."

"There are fewer dribblers because if they barely get the ball and you say, 'Pass it!'... Imagine if Messi, when he was eight years old, had been constantly told by his coaches to "Pass it!" We wouldn't have him today."

"Football has become such a huge thing, everyone reads, studies, and thinks that with that, they can already manage."

"If you tell a 7 or 8-year-old to make a diagonal run, cover defensively... He's seven years old! Let him play with the ball, make mistakes, and when he's 14 or 15, then we can start correcting."

"It's a message for the future. This is a sport, and the beauty of football should not be lost."

I don't agree at all.

In most academies it's keep the ball up until 10/11 then after that it's passing ability it's not say they don't pass the ball at age 9.

Just greater emphasis on individual technical ability development. I must say Everton and quite a few other clubs are not like that they emphatically teach positional play, team formation , passing, etc.

Right now in the top academies in England the art of the dribble is now PARAMOUNT.

ENGLAND use to be the kick 🦵🏿 and rush 🏃🏿‍♀️ masters but right now English boys are the new ballers it's all changed.

Unfortunately in Nigeria we are loosing our DNA and don't seem to produce too many ballers anymore.

elyte89:
Lol 😂…dis guy ,komekn go jail u one day 😀😀😀,he always claim he lives in London ,now wey I Dey here ,baba change mouth say him neva live here b4 …I wan c d guy 😀

I've never said I live in London.

I've always said the North West of England, which is TRUE.

I may visit London quite a lot it's a 2 hour train 🚆 ride from Manchester or Liverpool.

lovewins:
Two things can be true at the same time. Doherty had a context for this post and it wasn't the corruption at the NFF. He had at another time spoken about the corruption in the NFF and the football competition he organized for players of Nigerian descent (which you acknowledged). He really has no neee to cap here, they guy shows workings.

The crux of the post is for Nigerians to show grace to players as they make their decisions.

Let me ask you to empathise for a moment hypothetically.

Imagine you are a EPL young top player and some strange guy you don't know from Adam. Comes to ask abruptly from nowhere, 😲 do you want to play for Nigeria ❓

What would the be the expression on your face 🤔❓

Who the heck 😤 is this and what does he want 🧐

Compared to somebody you see quite often is friends with your coaches and agent and you have affinity with. People talk sincerely with people they know 😉 not with people they don't know.

I have said this a million times in order to get Nigerian origin players you need to create relationships.

ChrisKels:
He knows shit and doesn't speak with no one. Nobody sabi am, and him no sabi anyone.

See 🙈 bitter acid rancour coming from eating a diet of bitter 🤢 leaf 🌿 soup 🍲 with stale fish 🐟. Anchored on naked envy and jealousy ⚓.

Have coke 🍾and a smile 😊 you are too BITTER

elyte89:
Komekn shld disappoint us one day and just post a pic evidence to back up his claims dt truly he speaks with dis players

Why would you want me to do that on a faceless forum.

Do you think 🤔 I need the recognition of this forum 😞.

What would constitute evidence 🧾 to you❓ just curious 🤔

I'm sure if did post pictures 😉 many would still not believe anyway. They would say Photoshop not TRUE it's LIES. There are some who think 💬 i am in Ajegunle or Makoko or Warri 💦 waterside idu, etc.

I think 🤔 I've only did it once when l was at a tournament in Mallorca in explaining the relevance of the competition. Many still thought it be contrived.

In all honesty I'm not particularly bothered whether people believe or not. Sometimes people prefer the comfortable LIE to the uncomfortable TRUTH.

ChrisKels:
When Doherty talks, he backs it up with both quotes, interviews and pictorial(videos) evidences, but you want us to overlook that in favour of your usual cock and bull stories that are always devoid of substance? Mai'friend will you shut up there!!!

Give me one back up reference point of Docherty substantiated by a player not two just one please ❓

So you want me breach confidentiality, anonymity, on a faceless forum to pander to your need for bitter leaf 🌿 soup 🍲.

You can believe it or not 🚫 it's of no consequence to me.

Longneck:
And the Belgium league Onuachu scored for fun is how many steps higher?

Hebd scored for fun in the much lower quality Belgium league but on arrival in the EPL he could not score to save his life or his team from getting relegated.

Nuff said.

Marjoribanks:
Without Osimhen we are not beating both SA and Benin!

Is Boniface injured 🧐

Marjoribanks:
How can a National team have a define playing style when it is not club football?
Which country has a define playing style? You adjust your style to the players you have!

I know no say you get sense like this 👋🏿

caprikon:
I hope someday the NFF will implement a system where the national teams have a defined playing style from U_15s to the SE. ( Not necessarily tiki taka 😁).

That has to be part of the recipe for long term dominance on the continent and globally.

Most of the policies and decisions of the NFF are geared towards short term results.

It's inevitable it's a short term delivery framework with limited time.

Amedino99:
coming from someone that called grealish one of the best wingers in the league even when the stats did not support such assertion, this is quite funny.

Statistics are indicators not conclusive components.

Grealish has a unique skill set that drives the team forwards offensively resulting in assists and scoring chances that's not captured with statistics.

Stats are not the complete story

Joebie:
Na the matter some of us dey talk since for this thread. My nephew is a very talented kid. I make sure to update his Naija jersey regularly. He may play basketball or soccer professionally in future. But will I advise him to dump England. He also has a chance with the US. As much as I want to keep him close to his African roots, patriotism here is clearly split.

I have been to the club gyms training room and dressing rooms of a duplicity of clubs in England predominantly.

And for the clubs that have a lot of black players it's not rovk music 🎶 they are playing but afrobeat and they can dance every dance trend going.

In addition quite a few can speak 🗣️ Yoruba and Igbo however I shame no Uhrobo/ Isoko 🙊 just Warri pidgin.

humility33:
Here is a perfect example of why we should not blame these kids when they choose England, Germany, Holland, or Spain over Nigeria. 🇳🇬🇩🇪🇳🇱🇪🇸

I remember trying to get Lookman Ademola to play for Nigeria, but to no avail, so I wrote to my friend who is the director of grassroots football and education at the FA, who then arranged my visit to see the England U21’s or U20’s. So I went with an old Naija Jersey [Adidas] for all the players to sign. We had some Naija boys on the squad, i.e., Lookman, Tomori, Abraham, and Ojo, to name a few.

Luckily for me, I bumped into Lookman, who was going for an interview, so I stopped, whispered into his ears; You will play for Nigeria. 🇳🇬✌️

His facial expression conveyed his displeasure with my statement. Despite his initial reluctance, I managed to convince him to take a picture with me as proof. Those familiar with Lookman understand his reserved demeanor, akin to the Olise personality type.

The reason I chose this particular scenario is as follows:
[b]
- Lookman believed he had an opportunity to play for the England senior team and was hesitant to commit to Nigeria due to his success at the t[/b]ime.

- Aina's situation was more straightforward. He promptly acknowledged that the England route was unlikely, making my approach with him uncomplicated. His father's trust in the process, along with the influence of his close friend Iwobi, facilitated a successful resolution.

In conclusion, I kindly request that we refrain from criticizing Nigerian descendants who initially decline to play for Nigeria. If you were presented with the chance to represent England, Germany, or the Netherlands, would you unequivocally choose Nigeria, even for your child?

Presently, I am pleased that both players are part of our team. Although there are challenges within the NFF, the platform has provided benefits. The significance of the Nigerian factor cannot be overlooked.

For us,we will continue to push behind the scene, what matters to us is a better Nigerian football development for nigerians home & Diaspora

✍️ David Doherty
Football Administrator
@nigerianyouthfa x @nigeriauksportawards

#teamnigeriauk3 #lookman #aina #mrlulu #naija

Docherty is capping for the press.

Oviemuno and Lookman where among several players who came to the London screening which he Docherty was a part of at the time.

But they were not selected Ovie was at Arsenal then and a top prospect. Ademola at Charlton.

And I've spoken to Ovie and several other Nigerian origin players. The NFF officials are preoccupied sorry obsessed with cutting ✂️ deals with agents on behalf of players. These are players willing to sign and do anything for the dream of playing in Europe.

Out NFF officials are merciless predators in it for one thing personal interest. The exception to that is Finidi.

There is corruption in the England selection as well however as you get to U18 it gets reduced but not wiped out.

And many Nigerian origin players would rather choose Nigeria at this age grade over England believe me, I know what I'm talking about.

Longneck:
In the Scottish league


Paul Onuachu fit score 50 goals there sef

I don't know, but Sadiq was woeful there and here is Dessers in the same team killing it.

Onuachu played 11 games in the EPL not a single goal 🥅. Turkish league is just one or two steps 🪜 higher than the Scottish premier League.

Napoleon55:
That is what I meant by being serious, putting competent coaches in charge of our age grades teams,u-15,u-17,u-20 and u-23.

No serious FA will have Ladan Bosso as a coach.

You have it completely wrong 😞.

National team coaches have very limited time with their players. National team is not where you come to learn, it is where you bring what YOU HAVE.

Your unique skill sets, abilities, attributes and competencies. These different components of a player will be developed primarily at your club. Not over two weeks or less in the national team set up.

For instance, in England and across Europe 🌍 you will not 🚫 find a single player coming from grass roots football at U15 youth National team. In England the players will come from EPL predominantly and a few from the Championship.

This is where they train and play 4/5 times a week sometimes even more. The club will have the greatest influence over the players development at this stage.

At U15 level barely 20% will end up playing top level professional football ⚽, if that. That percentile increases as you go up to U17/19/21.

As a consequence the National team coaches having these players for a very limited time. Will concentrate on team formation,tactic, and strategy not 🚫 individual development.

Unless the government invests in infrastructure the percentage % of players coming from Europe born and or nurtured will increase not decrease. As it stands we don't have a single player coming from the NPFL as it stands in the SE.

If not for corruption and the recruitment included players at U17 level coming from Europe what percentage of players coming from local academies in Nigeria would be in the U17 ❓

I remember Ademola and Oviemuno were rejected at U17 screening that took place in London many years ago. It was shrouded in under handed practices quite disgracefully.

Napoleon55:
We need to be serious with our age grade teams and programs instead of continually wishing for players who are not interested of playing for us not until they are rejected by their country of birth .

No matter how bad things are in Nigeria, we are capable of producing talents good enough who would more passionate to represent us and win us trophies.
Our home made artistes and athletes achievements is good testament to this.

Athletics is not football ⚽.

Talent has to be developef and U17 football particularly in Nigeria is just potential talent. There is huge gulf between youth football and first team football.

Do we have in Nigeria the infrastructure and top level coaches to ensure that talent doesn't die in potential.

Talent is going to have to be nurtured, educated, trained and created into top level footballers in the top level professional football clubs. Not in obalende united fc.

Amedino99:
obviously Leicester management no sabi work reach oga kome

Exactly 💯

Napoleon55:
u said he signed 5yrs contract,
why did they extend his contract beyond 5 years along with increase in his weekly wages when they should have discovered his performances over the years have been abysmal according by u?

I don't want to sound condescending, but did you actually read my write ✍🏿 up ❓

It's either your prejudice has befuddled your capacity to comprehend.

Or you just lack basic competency.

Let me quote myself verbatim ( albeit with corrections)

He had one good season in 2020/21 he scored 12 goals from 25 games. Leicester expectations arose and they extended it, with improved terms.

Leicester were essentially hoodwinked into signing him believing he had improved immensely. But he obviously had not KC play them Yahoo

TheGoodJoe:
Baseless accusations with no facts. Try Mama Nkechi's kitchen.

I have shown you reasons where Amunike did not put money first. Your own is based on hate. Nothing else.

My position is based on a higher standard of probity, integrity, honesty, accountability, ethics and righteousness.

You have tried to justify his corruption.

I have zero tolerance for corruption.

No coach has any right to demand a share of development fee compensation from a player. More so a national team coach being paid to do his job.

uchenna55:
yes I don't understand what logic means,pls do explain it to me,
And and also explain to us why Iheanacho is earning big if he is so poor of a player

I want to presume you went to at least a secondary school and have some basic comprehension understanding.

I ask the question ⁉️ because I've explained already and you went past the in-depth explanations and responded with this far from intelligent response.

mostob:
Why the bolded though? Is it only applicable to Nigerians.

I will mention Nacho. He is earning better salary and uou have refused to tag him exceptional.

If you go back I used the Latin term, ceteris parabus, all things being equal, as a proviso.

KC signed for Leicester city from Manchester city primarily on potential for £25 million. As a young player he will sign a 5 year contract or thereabouts with incremental clauses % increases tied to longevity and performance.

That means his salary will go up irrespective of performance and until the contract expires as well as depending on what clauses are in that contract.

KC had been at Leicester city and had been in general poor. He had one good season in 2020/21 he scored 12 goals from 25 games. Leicester expectations arose and they extended it, with improved terms. Well since then he has reverted back to being poor.

In 2018/19 he played 30 games and scored 1 goal 🥅.

CanIl l ask you do you think considering his performance over the past 7 seasons at Leicester City, is he an Exceptional player ❓and if you do on what basis.

KC statistics point 👉🏿 to retrogression not progression.

But he has a contract that has only now expired,do you think Leicester City want renew it ❓

Eberechi Eze is earnings much less than Olise , because Olise had better contract terms but who is better ❓

If you know nothing it's better to be silent and it will be assumed you know. You are making misguided assumptive notions from crass ignorance.

Napoleon55:
But u have consistently refused to apply the bolded to Iheanacho, but only to Nwakali and Zaidu.

According to ur logic ,don't u think that Iheanacho should be considered good going by how much he earns through the years?

That's not logical.

I am making a comparison of two individual players specifically, you should therefore appraise their individual attributes and unique skill sets and understand why one is getting paid 5X the others salary.

Don't you understand what logic means ❓

TheGoodJoe:
Another hate statement against Amunike. You do not know his mind or the actions he would have taken if given the job. By the way, when Osimhen did his first trial with the U17, Amunike was not convinced but his assistant told Amunike that Osimhen was good and deserves a look in. Amunike listened to his assistant and gave Osimhen another chance and the rest was history.

If Amunike was a man filled with pride, he would not have listened to an assistant who opposed his view.

Finito.

Amunike was thinking 🤔 about personal interest and abuse of office and how he can get 🤑🤑money out of him. Amunike had no integrity and is corrupt.

Not the best interest of the player.