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Meliforme:
The invitation of Eze and Olise will not end the clamour for Nwakali.
Nwakali is a better midfielder than Eze and Olise.

Eze and Olise are best suited for wing play. As far as our midfield is concerned, those guys have no place.

I even prefer Olise to Eze.

I will not say you are illiterate nonetheless, you simply have no idea.

I was going to post a few videos of Olise and Eze to give some of indication of their mercurial and unique talent.

But I cannot find any videos in recent times of anything about Nwakali, too many of Eze and Olise. I guess it's because they have too much in thier skill set to rely on long ball.

Philosopher1979:
Didnt watch the match but he scored and the goal was dissallowed

He was a metre offside .

TheGoodJoe:
This is not about sentiments but selecting our best passers. Unless we don't want to use our best passers. Let our best passers play in midfield and we will keep the ball better and create chances better.

If our best passers are not in top leagues scout the lower leagues and play them.

We can go to lower leagues to get Keepers and full backs. However, to do that for midfield, it has become a taboo.

It may be unknown to you 🙂

But the best players play in the best teams and leagues. And if they are not 🚫 there is a reason.

Undoubtedly there are exceptions but in general best players best Clubs and leagues.

hatakekakashi:
I think the lack of proper creative midfielders too is part of the problem, solving that will improve our play. When you watch our matches, there's always an over reliance on wingers to create or score, few line breaking through passes from midfield.

There is not a lack of creative Midfielders.

What you have faile to understand, the games has evolved and top teams have different strategies that doesn't always include a creative Midfielder.

This is a why you will not see Grealish and or Mahrez running thr show as they use to do in their former clubs now they are in Manchester city.

Danielnino00:
I won't take the hyping too serious.. Nwakali isn't the first player that Thegoodjoe and Thesupernerd particularly have hyped well here.. It even appear more like encouragement than hyping... Players like Iheanacho and Osimhen were in such position when they were going through a rough phase in their careers.. Myabe because Nwakali own is taking too long that's why people find the hype annoying. But I can assure you, it's not just on this thread... I remember vividly after that Atletico Madrid game, so many fans on social media were clamoring for Nwakali to be in the world cup squad based on that performance.. Even when his name appeared in the AFCON list, there was jubilation in some quarters... Undoubtedly,many people remember how good he was back then ..

I agree, he hasn't hit the heights expected of him, but as far as the super eagles is concerned, especially the midfield, we need all hands on deck...if he was a striker, nobody would care because we have an abundance of strikers now... Maybe if we can land Eze or Oliseh this year, the talks of Nwakali getting called up will die down... Until then, let's not pretend that our midfield needs reinforcement and a player like Nwakali could be of help ..

When we were badly in need of a goalkeeper,Rohr went to the Spanish third division to fetch Uzoho...he also got Okoye from the German 4th division.. Jamilu Collins came to provide reinforcement at left back from the German second division too...

Hypocritical bigoted double standard.

A large number here have given me dogs abuse garnished with vitriolic bitter rhetoric.

About players who l said were good prospects for the SE at the TIME. Namely;

Fred Onyedinma
Tega Onomah
Chuks Aneke
Oviemuno Ejaria
Dominic Iorfa

To mention but a few there were many others , many here have dismissed them poured out bitter abuse against them, claimed they are not good enough, the league quality is very poor, etc

Apart from Oviemuno Ejaria, when I could see they had not made good progress in their clubs and league l also dismissed them. Some of them I've not talked about for over 4/5 years.

However, many of you keep making reference to them. Irrespective of the fact I no longer talk about them and have not for a very long time.

However, you have no problems talking about Nwakali non stop 🛑 for the past 8 years going from one level of mediocrity to another lower level of retrogression.

Now compare these players I have written off to the midfield maestro Nwakali who is the only Nigerian who can hit a accurate long ball, according to many here. Let's not consider the fact that this is Spanish football ⚽ where the Long ball is not part of thier football culure and or strategy.

Has Nwakali done better in any way shape or form than those largely forgotten players by me❓❓ in my opinion, NOT AT ALL.

Kog45:
Yes sentiment and agent aid brought Okoye and Collins to eagles,also Chiedebere Nwakili got invitation based on sentiment but failed to measure up.

Now I want the same sentiment for Kelechi Nwakili through Peseiro and he should grabbed the opportunity,remember he made last Afcon based on Emma Amuneke recommendation,not about his performance.

But can we cannot continue given players special consideration they just have to earn it,so Nwakili need to move and moving to better league will stop all these arguments on his relevance in eagles set up.

Agreed without question ❓

Danielnino00:
But Omeruo is playing in the same league as Nwakali and he is even one of the captains in the national team... I'm sure Peserio knows of Nwakali presence in the Segunda division... It all depends on whether or not he thinks he needs him...

Omeruo has never been exceptional and the last 6/7 years he is a bang average player to be kind.

He has please correct me, NEVER BEEN EXCEPTIONAL in any league he has played.

There is a reason why he has descended into obscurity from Turkish league to Segundo and it's not oustanding in performance.

Usually the Championship is a spring board to break into the EPL for exceptional players. But if not you can remain and still get a good £50k a week in the championship. However, Omeruo struggled in the Championship if the truth is to be told.

Many first tier league will not pay that once your not in the top 6/7 teams.

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Nomyth:
I'm indifferent about this Nwakali issue but I want to address the most compelling issue most of his critics have on here that is, he plays in la Liga 2.

First, we've had players from La liga 2 play for the national team without anybody complaining or calling to question the quality of such players. Examples are Sadiq Umar and Omeruo. And if we go a little back, we have Mutiu Adepoju.

Second, Accessing Nwakali solely on the point that he plays for a poor la liga 2 team can be a little bit misleading. What if the same Nwakali plays for a 'top' team that is not currently better than the team or league he plays in? Are we going to accept him?

I'm saying if Nwakali plays for teams like ASEC mimosas, Remo stars, chips United or in the Israeli league and makes the national team, will we still be complaining? These are teams that obviously are not better than la liga 2 teams.

Third, life happens.
The fact that he still plays in la liga 2 and no top club is coming for him does not necessarily mean he is a poor player. He might just not have the luck to be visible to top club.


Mitrovic is a proven premier league quality striker for example, but how many times has he followed Fulham to the championship without a premier league team or any top club demanding his services?

This is life..

Finally, Nwakali has never had a bad game for the NT.

I stand to be corrected on this one sha, but I don't think I've even seen a poor performance from Nwakali for the National team (U17, U 23, super eagles). From the Athletico Madrid game to the last AFCON, he has always put a very decent shift for the super eagles.

First of all Fulham were never going to let him go.

When at Fulham Mitrovic is was on well over £100k a week. Last season he had the highest goal tally in the history of the Championship.

He is currently number 5 in the EPL goal scorer chart. Just behind Ivan Toney, Rashford, Kane and Haaland.

Mitrovic was Fulham main player to get promotion they would NEVER sell him.

Fulham felt Anguissa was not up to standard and sold him to Napoli.

So your comments are far from accurate.

elyte89:
I will keep saying it…nwakali is gud enuf for eagles ,if not d starting line up,at least bench.no b say we even get better personnel in d midfield at d moment,aside iwobi and nididi

No he is not you have not looked at the hundreds of players doing much better than him across Europe.

charlesemeka85:
too much asaba low budget movies don finish your mentality 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

As a footballer nwakali ought to be at his peak at the ripe age of 24 (will be 25 this year) and if he aren’t playing top flight football at his best and most productive season as a pro in europe then he is not good as hyped here


Talent no dey hide and if he is as good as painted here by you and your cohorts scouts from bigger leagues and clubs in europe won’t hesitate to snap him up from the lower rugs of Spanish football

I doubt if he’s buyout clause even reach 500k euros so price no go be issue. Bigger club reps can pay that amount from their wallet no need of going to the bank 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If gent can scout and sign Gift Orban from Norway 2nd tier then I see no reach no scout haven’t fished out nor recommend nwakali from laliga 2 atleast to clubs from France,Germany,Holland or even Belgian top flight

Actually they offered him out for €80k across the whole of the Segunda division but nobody took the up that loan option.

I wonder why 🤔

Then in desperation Huesca tried to end his contract prematurely and illegally. But as soon as they could they ended it .

TheGoodJoe:
No one is forcing Kelechi Nwakali down your throat. We are asking you to provide suggestions of midfield conductors to give our midfield a better playing pattern.

If you feel ours is not good, suggest yours.

Yes you are

mostob:
I'm just curious. How many Nigerian players both in championship, academies and League one have you watched?

Literary Hundreds over the years.

If I add European then I really can't count.

Starboytwo:
bring your own evidence of him above 20. All the rest na story.

Bring your independent government controlled verification of his date of birth.

TheGoodJoe:
Simply put, we can do with some changes to the team. So why are people bitter at the suggestion of adding Kelechi Nwakali to the squad that can add a different dimension to the team?

Because he has NEVER been good enough that's why he is getting paid peanuts and is in bankrupt team at the relegation zone of an already poor Segunda division, surrounded by poor players like himself.

You know transfer interest and speculation are indicators of how good you are.

Since September 2019 Nwakali has been in the Segunda division. His club loaned him out immediately on arrival, then took him back and tried to sell him nobody wanted him , they tried to end his contract prematurely illegally they were desperate to get rid of him. He is at Ponferradina FC it's a dead club.

Four seasons in the poor Segunda division and not one bid for him in or outside of the league is that not enough to tell you he is not good enough. No amount of hyping and misinformation with statistics can hide this fact.

Bendel insurance will flog Ponferradina FC silly they are poor quality club in a poor league.

Imagine the nonsensical suggestion you are making because he is the best Midfielder at long ball distribution in Nigeria. It's long ball that is the only requirement needed for a Midfielder.

I say again every Nigerian Midfieldll player above 18 in any EPL academy is better than him, including 15 year old Nwaneri at Arsenal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LKNjBqJb_A

Every Nigerian Midfield player in the Championship is better than him. I would add the same for English league one. Every Nigerian Midfielder in Sheffield Wednesday is better than him.

You said name names there are too many to name that's the simple fact.

TheGoodJoe:
Rio Ferdinand on Pogba leaving Manchester United
"Everyone was sold on Paul Pogba. When he left United every player was saying, 'What the hell is going on?', the former centre-half wrote in the Sunday Times. "Everyone in that changing room knew that him leaving was a huge, huge error.

"He was 17, nearly 18, and before he came into the changing room I said, 'Listen, this kid, I've seen him play for the reserves and youths and he has something.'

"After he trained, no player in that Manchester United first team disagreed. Everyone was sold on Paul Pogba. But he came to a decision to leave and sometimes these things happen in football."

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Yet you want us to believe no one would have known him if he did not leave. I guess we don't know Rashford because he chose to stay at Manchester United and not leave.

See you rely on media.

Derek Langley was the head of recruitment and things were not straightforward but crooked.

Pogba was outstanding then but there preferences and those preference thought to exclude Pogba. If he had stayed his opportunities and development would have been stifled

TheGoodJoe:

Pogba entered into Manchester United as a star player. If I remember right, he came from Le Havre with a lot of problems because of his quality.

He was brilliant and held a lot of promise. He would have become huge at Manchester United. The problem is that Ferguson wanted an extra season for Paul Scholes and Pogba did not want to wait.

But to say the most talented midfielder in Manchester United reserves would not have been known if he did not leave Manchester United is not true.

You really know little about English football and the behind scenes politics, favouritism, nepotism and racism.

Tom Cleverly Dad was a coach at United and he was being pushed ahead of Pogba he was called the new Scholes at the TIME. It was all misinformation and hype.

They then let Pogba go to Juventus with only a paltry sum for compensation for development essentially not nothing. Paul Pogba refused to be pushed down for cleverly, he refused to be passed over and treated shabbily.

Fast forward 3 years and Manchester United buy him back for £100 plus.

At the time I knew Mathias his brother who was playing at Crew Alexandria and their agent, then Chuks Aneke was at Crew as welll.

If Pogba stayed his development will be stifled and his progression very limited,he was not going to get games regularly at United.

TheGoodJoe:


Like seriously. What you are typing here has no relation to the topic of discussion.

The topic of discussion is how we can improve or midfield play.

The suggestion is to add long balls to our tactical repertoire.

Now read what you posted, if it relates to the discussion.

By the way, enjoy Xabi Alonso's passing clips.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqeSdmAvPtU

No you are misleading intentionally the discussion with, the topic is a your assertion.

That NWAKALI is the only Midfielder in Europe of Nigerian origin that can give accurate long balls.

My assertion, that's a load of balderdash and codswallop.

jihday:
people like Kome are always quick to remind us that Osimhen Iheanacho could have lied about their ages, no need for long talk people will always doubt the age of any Nigerian player which is very sad

Why are you being hypocritical.

Age cheating is an ingrained endemic and institutionalised culture in Nigeria.

In country where truth and integrity are not considered attributes worthy of commendation.

We do not have any institutional independent government controlled system for automatic birth data capture.

You therefore have to rely on the integrity and honesty of individuals when there such attributes are not commended in society in general.

This is why we have a convicted geriatric drug Lord claiming to be 70 but looking frail and 85. And many giving him unquestionable support.

Age cheating cute across every sector on Nigeria.

Age cheating in football ⚽ is part of the business model and structure of football in Nigeria. They are never separate.

charlesemeka85:
not at all

Nwakali is where is talent can only take him to which is laliga 2 🤣

Next!!!!!!

The simple NAKED UNDILUTED TRUTH

Napoleon55:
Don't u think that Nwakali is trying to heed ur advice by playing in la liga 2,just as u wanted Osimhen to move to bundesliga 2.
Have u not really gave it a thought that he is actually trying to re-invent himself in lower league.

No he is not .

He has been in CONSISTENT retrogression , finally findings himself after 8 years of mediocrity in the bottom of the very poor quality Segundo division in a near bankrupt club getting paid peanuts.

BascoVanVeli:
U don't really have to explain too much. When Osimhen was at Wolfsburg a lot of people felt he was not going to make it. U were definitely not the only one.

Actually I knew he wouldn't make it at Wolfsburg.

Football succes is anchored on very small margins and decisions. There is a time to leave and a time to stay .

If Pogba had not left Manchester United to Juve as a youth player we would not be hearing about him now. I will the same for Jadon Sancho when he left Manchester city now he is on £350k a week .

If Jude Bellingham didn't leave Birmingham city he would not be the number one Midfielders on the transfer list's of the very best Clubs in Europe.

If VO didn't leave Wolfsburg at that time maybe we will not be hearing about him today, nobody can tell.

codemaniacs:
Long pass that Mason Mount cannot do

If long pass or pinging the ball is a basic skill set that you will be taught in every EPL academy videos like the one below will not exist..

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5L8q2y8hHuU

You actually want to compare Mason Mount to NWAKALI, is this not a form of deep seated self Delusion.

Mason Mount is a Chelsea player and England international , wanted by top clubs across Europe and you are comparing him to Nwakali.

Your pick out one pass not a clip one pass he refused to do for Jao Felix and therefore Nwakali is better.🤔🤔

Good teams and players don't always use long ball but have other quality options.

See a proper clip of Mount doing a long 30 yard passrs with both feet left and right.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPfpzOwrMwA

TheGoodJoe:
Thank God that Iheanacho and Osimhen did not listen to the prophesies of komekn.

It seems VO actually did listen to my advice but as it has come true , you are right to call it a prophecy, in this regard.

My words leave Wolfsburg, RE- INVENT himself develop, learn, appreciate, improve, then Step up .

With regards to KC don't think I ever really gave any

TheGoodJoe:
komekn wants us to believe it is so easy to give long balls like Kelechi Nwakali but we have very limited players all over Europe who can do it. Na wa.

That's why Nwakali is in dead league, dead club facing relegation 😟 and almost bankrupt, and earning peanuts 🥜

Can you wake up from this nonsensical Delusion.

TheGoodJoe:
You can hit a long ball on a training pitch in drills. However, in match play, movement of opposition, and teammates, it takes intuition and brilliance to hit a high number of accurate long balls.

If it is so basic, you would not find it difficult to give us names. Something that is so basic. Taking out time to say easy league, poor players is a joke. Spanish midfielders there that are trained from small in the art of midfield play in that league did not hit that kind of number.

Pinging the ball with pin point accuracy is a skill set l find the top level players at U13 in most EPL Academies can do as a routine.

Long ball passing ( police game) is the bread and butter of the lower leagues , kick and rush. It's not considered anything special but the contrary because anybody can do it.

It's much more DIFFICULT and COMPLICATED to play through a team with a series of short passes, give and takes, 1-2's, through balls, deceptive movement and passes, dead ball accuracy for set pieces, etc .

Hoofing a ball up the pitch is a reflection of limited ability and skill not exceptional performance or intuition. It's escapism, essentially, " When in doubt kick it out"

The Spanish quality skill set in Midfield is seen quite clearly in La Liga top level clubs.

Not in the poor Segunda division, Villarreal B team played Wolves U21 and struggled to beat them 2-1. A team that Liverpool U21 flogged 5-0.

I've said this repeatedly that no EPL U21 Academy dide can beat a league one team. Talk less of a Championship side. That has been established beyond all doubt 🧐

That should give you an idea of how poor the Segunda division is as a league. I will concede that the first 5/6 teams are decent but not oustanding.

Even La Liga has huge gaps in Quality between the top end and low end teams. This is not the same in the EPL, Where bottom team can beat the top team I recall Southampton was able to beat Manchester city.

If I look at the top level of the Segundo division don't think they would find it easy against the top level of English league one.

Nwakali remain in the Segunda division because he is a poor player, not because he is exceptional. It's that simple.

You asked me to name 📛 players, I don't need to players play in better League and clubs because they are better it's that SIMPLE. In addition there are too many players to name, who are better than him.

All the players that I've stopped talking about because I feel they are not good enough for the SE are by comparison much better than him.

TheGoodJoe:
Abuse and curses will not help your course. We are still waiting for you guys to give us a midfielder that can give us sufficient long ball plays than Kelechi Nwakali. Instead of you people to roll names and data, you are attacking people.

Every player from the EPL to the National League,it's that basic a skill.

codemaniacs:
You guys forget that Nwakali is playing in a country that prioritizes midfielders and midfield play so the indigenes will be 1st to be considered before anyone else... even Ramon Azeez had his own issues...

I think the best country for Nigerian midfielders is Belgium and Denmark and it also depends on the coach.... Mikel had issues with Conte and had to leave... Since Mikel, Bonke, Frank Onyeka, Ndidi and Iwobi have been the only Nigerian midfielders playing in top 5 leagues and even Iwobi position has been changed by several managers and Iwobi also has his struggles with different coaches since leaving Arsenal..

Nwakali has a skill-set of through passes, corner kicks, long passes that can bring out the best in the Super Eagles strikers and that's why he is needed in the team...

Against Tunisia he created a one on one opportunity for Sadiq by making a through pass to Sadiq which Sadiq missed. Now imagine if it was Osimhen , Lookman, Moffi or Ihenacho receiving that through pass and how we could have equalized...

football is a game of creating chances/opportunities and taking those chances. Nwakali can create chances that can put S.E 1 or 2 goals ahead and the entire team starts defending that lead at least that's what Morocco did anytime they scored the first goal that made them reach the Semi-Finals of the World Cup..

Against Ghana, there was no player to create chances for the Strikers, Moses Simon was trying to dribble everyone, Chukwueze wing was un-used...

Against Portugal, the same issue, no player to create chances for the strikers...

two players S.E needs and are not liked on this thread are Nwakali and Chidera Ejuke...

Correction Nwakali is playing in the Segundo division a dead poor league, in a relegation club that is near bankrupt. He is surrounded by poor quality players just like himself.

After 8 years of European football, he has been consistently continuously in retrogression into deeper mediocrity.

The best country for Nigerian Midfielders is according to you Denmark rated 17 and Belgium rated 8 in Europe. How did you come to this conclusion please ❓

Long ball passing or pinging the ball is a basic skill set that you will taught in ever EPL academy.

Nwakali will struggle to get a league two club and Ponferradina FC would be playing in the English league two at best .

Liverpool getting slammed by Real Madrid at home and they lok like they can score more.

How the mighty have fallen.

5-2 to Real and at least 25 minutes to go including injury time.

Coolsperm:
Wike is very comfused at the moment, God forbid that any Christian will vote for Muslim Muslim ticket, wao onto the person

Who knows and we Know.

WIKE is 100% OBI-DIENT Believe this and know TRUTH.

andrew444:
Even danilo of juventus have alot to say about him despite not spending many years with him

Crazy clown said atsu took care of his Tution fee at Ukraine university and made sure he graduated

Mehn my bro ,this life got me speechless recently

I don’t even know my tomorrow nor my next destination

When he was at Everton I got to meet him ,his humility unquestionable and his willingness to help amazing.

I think he was a practicing Christian.

When he left Everton to Newcastle we were no longer seeing each other often, but I could see he was a really nice God fearing Dude.

RIP

JohnBullMySon:
A degree is your first experience.

Are you talking about football or something else.

A degree gives you an analytical expression that is transferrable to football coaching assessment and strategy, yes.

But it's not the first ,it's just among the many attributes that can help you but it's not 🚫 the FIRST.

Quite a lot if not most don't have university degrees.