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Emmy450:
this doesn't prove anything, as the MRI test hasn't been carried out on him, although he looks likely to fail the test when it's carried out

It's already too late because it's about bone fusion before the age of 17.

Essentially it's assumed that most people will achieve bone fusion from 17 onwards. Thats why there is no MRI for U20 youth national team players.

mostob:
He should wait till Summer before moving. What if he joins Everton now and they relegate. Better teams may even seek for his signature in Summer.

What if he joins and struggles to get in the team, you have Calvert Lewin, Demeria Grey , Gordon, Townsend etc

Amedino99:
this is an L. The fella has not even dorned the national team jersey before

I am not talking about whether he will or has played for any of our national teams.

Just find his age very difficult to believe.

Do you think he is 18

MainJoe:
The point is simple. There is no theory to support your bogus lies of 20/21 years old passing MRI.

A man with so much integrity should not spend time spreading lies because he can't stand Nigerians born locally doing well.

I just showed you a peered-review article showing young players failing the MRI. For your twenty years old passing theory, they should pass better. They didn't because you lied. There is no evasion.

benji93 is the one being evasive. I have repeatedly asked him to explain his Theory and he is saying I have to be in sync with an article.

Sorry, that is ridiculous. No one needs to be in sync for anyone to explain a point.

You hinged on his bias,bogus and unproven point because it supports an uneducated lie you tried o spread.

By the way, you rated the Segunda division lower than the English league two. All of a sudden, you are running the same League Two as mediocre and then tried to talk integrity.

Tomorrow you will say it is constructive criticism but you are severely hurt seeing Iheanacho score that you needed any excuse to hide your shame.

First of please do not carry out gross misrepresentation to support your false narrative.

What I said I will reiterate, I rate the lower percentile of the Segunda division on par with English league two.Thats from just above mid table to the bottom.

I substantiated that position with a comparison of the Villa Real B team which struggled to get a 1-0 over Wolves U21. A team in the lower percentile of the EPL U21 League. No EPL U21 team has been able to beat a champion side as well as any league one side and or league two side.

Wolves were flogged 5-0 by Liverpool u21 team.

Karlovych:
This is 18 year old Silas Nwankwo of Mjallby FC in Sweden, as it stands now, he is eligible to represent the Nigeria U20 side

You can all call me HATER but this Dude doesn't look 18 at all.

He started playing for Nassarwa United supposedly at 15.

Well a picture can say a thousand words below him playing for Nassarwa he may be claiming 16 at this stage or lower.

Karlovych:
Manchester united are reportedly looking to sign him

Not on the least bit surprised, Dude irrespective of age is a quality striker.

benji93:
You have gone cause trouble. I have no idea why you posted that. You cannot answer a simple question regarding the article FIFA based its decision. Sorry, this conversation only continues when you actually answer that. I am not doing this unfruitful back and forth with you on this topic. On other topics, I may.

Thank you

EVASION plus misdirection it's very obvious he doesn't have the capacity to approach the subject with a substantive response. Just irreverent noise making.

mostob:
Yea. Heard Al Nassr has exceeded the maximum number of foreign players in their team so Aboubakar is the 'sacrificial lamb'. They need to let him go because of CR7.
He was fully compensated though

Can you imagine the compensation guy will be laughing all the way to the bank and probably fine himself in the EPL he is that good.

TheGoodJoe:

Stop jumping to Kelz Nwakali. You have always praised English lower leagues now you have now taking time to rubbish them. Daz all.

Dont you have just an iota of integrity and or a sense of honour.

Let me quote myself verbatim.

So back to you, tell me what context I spoke about English league two please specifically without EVASION.

This is the question ❓ you made a spurious claim, in my write up l was very specific , making reference to English league Two and Gillingham FC bottom of League two more or less relegated to national conference league and how they were able to beat Leicester city

But here you are making a spurious claim and totally false narrative that you wish to attribute to me.

I have consistently and continuously said that the English Championship is the best, most high valued and qualitatively competitive second tier league in Europe by a huge margin. I stand by that assertion and it's not a emotive deduction but factual one.

Once again you are evading the question ❓ with the irrelevant subject of Nwakali.

I can say you and a few other continuously praise and enthrone MEDIOCRITY with players like Nwakali turning black � to white � in your disinformation and false narratives.

Quite remarkable result today a full strength Newcastle United got beat by Sheffield Wednesday from league one.

Didn't see that coming, more interesting there are 5 Nigerian players in the Sheffield Wednesday team.
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TheGoodJoe:

I disagree. So what is the specific article you referenced this idea from?

There are several peer reviewed academic published journals on this subject matter.

oloriooko:
Most useless player i know, dude seems to have lost will to push up the ladder, looks unserious to me

How did you come to that very superficial conclusion.

Dennis plays in a straight jacket very rigid team structure that doesn't give too much room for individual brilliance or playing off the cuff.

He has infuriated the Manager Cooper and is out of favour, in addition he has already played for two clubs in England and can only go abroad.

Otherwise he would be in another EPL club very quickly.

TheGoodJoe:

Coming from the same person that tried to sell to us how competitive the teams from English lower leagues are. Chai, there is God O!!!

Can you say the context in which I said that .

Recently and continuously the Championship remain the most competitive, most expensive and high valued second tier league in Europe.

Recently I substantiated my claim that no EPL 21academy team will beat a Championship team indeed no EPL U21 team can even beat a League one team.

So be specific not assumptive from your self birthed notion and perceptions, when did I specifically talk about English league two. I have said that Midfield maestro Nwakali would struggle in league two and that the middle to lower percentile Segunda division is on par or lower than English league two.

So back to you tell me what context I spoke about English league two please specifically without EVASION.

TheGoodJoe:

Not so fast. Actually, the article he posted, clearly contradicts the assumptions he is making. They are pure assumptions. Not facts.

The article he is referencing is about 14 and 15 years old failing the test, which is complete fusion. Not the opposite and clearly contradicts your claim.

You are beyond redemption go and read it properly and it's not one article but a peer reviewed extracts.

Samueltemi337:
Iheanacho scores


The FA cup king

Do you know why football analyst tend to not take note of goals scored in the FA Cup, particularly against low level competition because it gives a false impression.

Gillingham play in league two and Liecester are struggling to beat them 1-0. And KC the outstanding excellent clinical finisher scored only one goal. It's not Commendation but Condemnation

In my opinion nothing to celebrate its shameful, if KC got a hat trick there would still be nothing of substance to celebrate. And you say the FA Cup King now some of you will say HATE. I simply don't celebrate MEDIOCRITY.

It's league two opposition , Gillingham as they stand will be beaten by Non league clubs they are on the bottom of the league two table , they have won two games all season. They are already relegated effectively.

benji93:
Do you see why I say you are not serious? All you do is deflect. I ask you one question, you answer a different question, and you ask a question quite distant from my question. I suspect this is intentional. What is this? Again, what did I say that you believe is far from accurate? Or you did not mean to say that? Take your time, It's not that hard to copy and paste.

Lost for words outright EVASION there is complete and well presented clarity in this paper.

Wow and he asking what ❓❓❓❓

benji93:
1st point: Skeletal maturity differs from one race to another. The article in question, which apparently FIFA based their decision to adopt the MRI on suggested this in the first picture, in which case they were referring to a study in Malawi. They didn ot ocnduct studies of their own in the Sub-Sahara. They only sampled Algeria in North Africa. Scientific American suggested FIFA based their decision on this study, and they are very likely correct, because at least the first author on that paper Jiri Dvorak was on Fifa's medical team.

In one of your later posts you suggested that FIFA considered every race, but how do you know this? The most important study that informed their decision didn't sample and Sub Saharan country. For a decision as important as this by a governing body such as FIFA, you better be sure you have colelcted data across board. Besides the sample size although reasonable, is quite small, reasonable becos the correlations are not that different from those published by the studies they referenced.

The only way to account for the delay in maturity observed in a sample of Sub-Saharan African countres is to use different standards for Europeans and Subsaharan Africans. Nothing shows that this is the case. FIFA is clearly applying the European standard to Sub-saharan Africans.

Figure 2 shows the average age for each grade, Grade VI being complete fusion. Even for their small sample size they recorded a mean of 18.3 for complete fusion. This is based on their study on 4 countries, none of which is in Sub-sahara African. If complete Fusion is over 18(Standard deviaiton of approximately 1) for these countries, anyone who can do some statistical analysis and knows that skeletal development is delayed in Sub-saharan would guess that the mean for Sub-saharan Africans would be around 20. It's not so hard.

So it's quite easy to conclude that Sub-saharan players around 20/21 would most probably pass the test. The study across Algeria, Malaysia, Algeria, Switzerland is not accurate, not to talk of Sub-saharan Africans with delayed skeletal maturity.

A further study published in the South African Journal of Sports Medicine concluded that there's no correlation between chronological age and grade of fusion for a sample of Ghanaian players(3rd Figure), meanwhile the study FIFA depended on reported correlation for the countries they sampled. Very interesting. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dear-fifa-there-is-no-scientific-test-to-prevent-age-fraud/

Meanwhile the sample size across board although reasonable is quite small honestly.

Is the method reasonable, yes. Is it able to identify players who are about 20 and above? most probably yes. You are overestimating the accuracy of the MRI test. Before you conclude that FIFA considered everything, ask for the bases of their decision to use. You don't seem to have any idea.

So even though i hate that Scientific American used a picture of one of our youth teams as cover, i don't disagree with them, as in the third picture. it's not foolproof.https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dear-fifa-there-is-no-scientific-test-to-prevent-age-fraud/

One bottle of rare and very expensive Dom Pérignon : Rosé Vintage Coffret Gold 2000 champagne to for you.

You have presented a well thought out referenced paper that's clearly substantive and objective . You articulated my view that I have expressed for several years .

You have had one like , quite often many hear will prefer sentiment based unsubstantiated outright disinformation over OBJECTIVE FACTS.

You have taken time out to research and present peer reviewed facts and you get one like so far from me. That tells you the pervading mentality here.

Nonetheless, I commend you , let's see what TheGoodJoe and others with a preference for sentiment over facts will say.

fabyom:
Iwobi twisted his ankle. Carried off the pitch on stretcher. He could be out for the whole season. It's Nwakali's time!

His team is in the MEDIOCRITY percentile of the Segundo division and is near bankrupt.

Unfortunately there is zero interest for him in January window. And although his wages are a pittance in football ⚽ terms. His options are to go lower in mediocrity.

I would have suggested English league two but not sure he can cope. It's probably going to be Segunda División B, he might get a good non-league in England.

Yes it's TIME for him to go Lower into obscurity

Odunayaw post=119776542.:
Awaziem was brilliant for Nantes and Leganes

Me and you know these clubs are not big spenders. Much more for a defender. But agenda must agend

Considering the bold gross misrepresentation in that's just a load of balderdash and codswallop.

Go and look up the word brilliant in the dictionary or have a refresher course in English Language.

He was so outstanding, excellent and exceptional he dropped to the retirement league in Turkey from league one. Nantes and all the other teams in French league one were blind to his excellent performances in it seems. And you are the only one with eyes

When a player is excellent outstanding exceptional and brilliant in a league he gets promoted not DEMOTED .

benji93:
Continue deceiving yourself. That is true on average. Only a minority of actual 17-year-olds would fail the test if it's properly calibrated. Besides by previously, i meant pre-2013. In the last 2 tournaments or so we've been more truthful, thanks in part to the MRI system. And no it's not still accurate. Remember accuracy means they were all under 17. I guarantee you the majority of them were 20 and above .

Because there are huge disparities in bone fusion across races in the first instance. When you then add the impact of malnutrition, limited health care, environmental factors, multi faceted deprivation you can not have a singular aggregate for all races.

As a consequence, a white Caucasian teenage male growing up in the west will not have bone fusion at the same rate of as a Nigerian growing up in multi faceted and causal deprivation.

What does that mean, that bone fusion may occur in general for the White male at 16/17. But possibly much later in the West African male living in multi faceted deprivation maybe even up to 21.

Because the base line data operates on aggregate assumptions when bone fusion should occur. What the MRI tells you unequivocally is when bone fusion has occurred.

However, the age that it should occur has several influencing variables. That's why your assertion is actually probable and cannot be dismissed.

charlesemeka85:
I doubt Boro will allow him leave

They are doing incredibly well under carrick and one of the candidates to take up one of the playoff spots

The Championship is stupendously competitive and from my perspective there Burnley and Sheffield United are already in the EPL. They are far too ahead to be caught that's automatic promotion.

That leaves one position to be fought for by 11 teams 10 of those teams have no more than 4 points between them.

Middlesbrough know they are not guaranteed and will rather sell a player they bought for very little for upwards of £ 10 million possibly. Particularly as his contract expires in the summer.

charlesemeka85:
Everton and Crystal palace interested in Boro’s striker Chuba Akpom

Not surprised.

Unfortunately, football is very time constrained and when players are bought during the January transfer window,clubs are especially desperate and therefore values go up.

If he waits until summer there will far more options and his value will not be as high. Also we are barely half way be through the season there is no guarantee he will be top goal scorer at the season end. And his value may depreciate.

My view, he is 27 this could be his flash in the pan season. He should strike while the iron is HOT and secure a long contract as well as long term financial future.

My preference Crystal palace.

Marjoribanks:
You should have said French ligue 1 not the top five leagues. Senegal does not have the most players in the top five leagues. Get that right.

Let me reiterate, my proposition once again as you are clearly struggling to comprehend.

Senegal has the most African players in the top 5 Leagues of Europe, we are talking numbers of players not value a fluctuating variable.

The five top Leagues in Europe are
EPL
La Liga
Bundisliga
Seria A
French league 1.

You have submitted an article on player value which has absolutely nothing to do with my assertion. It's even done in isolation.

If you struggle to make a substantive contribution, why not just keep quite and not expose your limited understanding and capacity to be kind.

charlesemeka85:
UEFA name Lesley Ugochukwu in Top 40 youngsters to storm Europe in New Year

Not a suprise to anyone.

I don't like talking about young footballers too much because there is a lot of hurdles to pass.

Many get mentioned and just don't get far quite often.

But there is still hope ,I was at an event with Adidas where the most promising players from 12 to 17 where getting endorsements.

They were from the top team in the North West of England. Not more than 20 and about 6 of them are of Nigeria origin.

But again I don't like talking about such players so early .

Philosopher1979:
That's the issue. The English may have invented football but when it comes to tactics Europeans and south Americans practically re-invented football.
All the major innovations in football are not from the English.
Thr Brazilians with their brand of attacking football
The spanish tikit taka
the italian tactical formations etc
The English just invented football and added nothing more.
All the major tactics and innovations in football are not English

So why is the England team rated so high.

Danielnino00:
Just like that, we have forgotten about the 15 years old Nigerian player who made the Arsenal bench this season (what was his name?)
Arguments were flying around that he was better than this and that because he made the bench...

Ethan Nwaneri he will be 16 in March this year.

Marjoribanks:
Komekn and misinfo na synonyms. Which Senegal? Name those players in top five leagues. Nigeria has the most players and currently the most valuable football nation in Africa.

Let me reiterate so you will not allow your negative pre- conceived false notions to befuddle your thinking.

I said ,that Senegal has the most African players in the top 5 Leagues of Europe .

Those league are as follows ;
EPL
La Liga
Bundisliga
Seria A
French league 1

You don't need statistics to know it's blatantly evident. There is a direct pathway from Senegal local football direct to French league one. This has resulted in a over representation of players from the African Francophone countries in the French league and by default the top five leagues in Europe.

I don't know if you have looked at the French national team lately. That should tell you all you need to know.

Quote recently I was in Portugal well about 6/7 weeks ago and watched a youth tournament for u14 players. PSG team was filled with Giants from Senegal and Mali at age 14 some were 6"3 .

The team was 85% African undiluted.

Nigerian origin players are a considerable number in the EPL and even our academirs. But not like the French African former colonies.

Nonetheless look out for Idowu in Chelsea looks like a real baller.

Finally go and look up the meaning of misinformation and disinformation. You need some re - education.

daveP:
Things so bad nobody wants to even hype anyone cos what will make it so are never projected by those expected to do so. I pray the factory reset happens in this sports sector. The fact that opta doesn't really have much on nigeria ballers compared to the francophones is even annoying.

Senegal has more players in the top 5 Leagues than any other country in Africa, that may explain it.

It's taken an age of ups and downs and in many cases poor performances but after a decade of trying.

It looks like CHUBA AKPOM is now getting recognition and he could be in the EPL this month. Multiple suitors on account of his excellent performance in the Championship.

Can he transfer his current form to the EPL I really have my doubts, but he is not going to cost too much his contract will be out in the Summer.

So it will not take a lot of money to get him out of Middlesbrough, 13 goals in the Championship at barely the half way mark is no joke.

TheSuperNerd:
Like I already said, you won't be dropping these obviously illogical babblings if the Top Scorer in Serie A at this stage was TAMMY ABRAHAM.


ThE EpL is a FAr SuPeRior LeAgUe to Serie A.

Osimhen literally destroyed Liverpool in just 41mins in that 4-1 win. Remember?

Truthfully, you are not saying anything.

EPL is far superior to Seria A that's a fact.

The only team to beat Napoli this season is what ❓

VO destroyed Liverpool at home in the Champions league, but did not score, in the 4-1 destruction of Liverpool.

How many games has Napoli won in recent years away to Premier league clubs in the Champions league ❓

You love to muddy the waters and EVADE the topic and lower the level of discourse with petulant nonsense claim's.

What does Tega Abraham have to do with this subject ❓ beyond to suit your false narrative he hates Nigerian players.

Critical appraisal of players without unnecessary hype is not HATE.

Blueelf:
You have a point. I am partly in support of you but what I don't support is your statement about "statistics as an exercise in irrelevant nonsense" because to sell a player, stats are the first thing to look out for

I said that particular statistics about number of shots in a match , says NOTHING.

Statistics without context are largely indicative.

Because a players could maybe had 100 passes in a match but they were all sideways and or to the keeper.

And another players had 25 passes that were either through balls or forward passes that resulted in a win for his team.

But the statistics will not show that .

You really have to watch the whole game and then converge the stats with individual and collective performance.

Kog45:
My point is simple,how many chances created by Nottingham this season.This is a team that lack possessive football and you believe Haaland will score goals,am not disrespecting Haaland but used him as a study on how awful Nottingham team play.... Happy New Year bro.

Did you see how Brentford beat Manchester City a change in strategy and a bypassing of the midfield with use of blistering pace.