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mostob:
Who do you think will replace Grizzy in that french team? France can bench mbappe and there won't be a slight drop in their team quality.

Benzema

Meanwhile see Wahala for Argentina, Benzema is back from injury and could play against Argentina.

They Argentina will not be happy at that news

charlesemeka85:
because they hv more serious minded players who are ready to work hard to improve their game unlike our players who once they get signed to any European club they become too lazy and lackadaisical with no hunger to improve in order to attract bigger deals

No be our own maestro wey since em leave for Europe over 6 seasons ago but yet to achieve anything tangible na wey we Dey here dey hype and make excuses for every year?

I've not done a study but from a very perfunctory glance.

I think there may be more players from Cote De Voire than there are Nigerian in the EPL.

Considering that Nigeria has a historical colonial legacy with the British that seems strange.

I've often wondered are there more black people or rather African origin people in France than there are in the UK ��❓ Anytime I look at the French team it's no longer a debate it's African and not even mixed heritage but pure blooded African.

I've been to France several times and I really cannot tell

andrewbaba44:
You sure say na Chelsea first team ?

I already know quite a few who are in their teenage youth teams . Chelsea can buy him however, absolutely no guarantee he will play one minute for the first team.

A certain Omeruo comes to mind

AndSunGorilla:
But even John hasn't coached since like 2016. He had a stint at Crystal Palacd U16 then one season as senior team coach and nothing since then.

Darren Moore was left to rot in West Bromwich Albion academy with no opportunity.

Fast forward WBA were about to be relegated and he was given the job did so well narrowly missed staying up.

He was sacked when WBA were third place in the Championship. Ledly King and Sol Campbell all badges completed but no opportunity.

Gerrard, Lampard and Rooney have barely retired and they were manageing top teams.

Gareth Southgate became Manager of Middlesbrough with no qualifications.

It's called racism and white privilege.

I know these guys don't think because they didn't get certain experience that thry can't do the job.

AndSunGorilla:
Thank you, while these guys may have the coaching badges, I did a google search on their coaching careers and there's nothing impressive there at all. Efan is excelling in media no doubt but no coaching job yet. Now I agree absolutely that these guys were all good players in their days except for Akinbiyi who I don't know much about.

Ade played for Nigeria and was a striker with a number of EPL clubs .

Icon79:
Haha!! But Morocco acquitted themselves very well in the game tho. They were the better team for a vast swathes of the game. I think they were just unlucky and their inexperience cost them as well. Conceding that fluke first goal didn’t help either.

The good news is, I think Messi and Argentina can defeat this French team. France got badly exposed by England and Morocco.


O pari

What's good about that.

The Bad news is that France is going to Flog Argentina 3-1

Have a great morning

AndSunGorilla:
Thank you, while these guys may have the coaching badges, I did a google search on their coaching careers and there's nothing impressive there at all. Efan is excelling in media no doubt but no coaching job yet. Now I agree absolutely that these guys were all good players in their days except for Akinbiyi who I don't know much about.

They are black and will get little or no opportunity in the UK thats the reality.

AndSunGorilla:
Could you let us know them pretty pretty please?

Seyi Olofinjana
Ade Akinbiyi
Efan Ekoku
John Salako

jihday:
just like our players our coaches have zero ambition, nothing stopping a fatai osho or Fidelis from joining a club in Africa to make their cv more beautiful but they’ll rather stay in their comfort zone. Our recently retired players? Those ones are worst, Joseph Yobo was forced to take up a spot in our technical crew he still refused to go for his coaching badges, aside Utaka I don’t know any former player trying to make his name as a coach while other Africans are trying to start a career, Kolo Toure is now Wigan’s coach while his brother Yaya is with Conte at Tottenham , Benny McCarty is Manchester United’s striker coach, Elneny have already started his UEFA coaching course but our players are no where to be found. You see why we’ll either continue to employ 3rd grade foreign coaches or we’ll manage our Amunike like that

I know several who have coached and have their complete badges but they are not part of the preferred NFF network and may not compromise Thier standards.

mostob:
Chai...Dey calm down bro.
When Morocco was playing, a lot of monikers here commented about how good their transition from defence to attack is. That's exactly what we are lacking.

At the heart of that is, " WORK RATE " It really does not matter how tactfully and technically astute you are , all the skills and dribbling will amount to NOTHING without work rate and team COHESION.

Philosopher1979:
What a player has to offer is more important than club form.
For example if a secondary vschool has maths teachers but has a shortage of English teaches there is no need looking for maths teachers and we may have to lower the expectations for English teachers.
We lack ball playing midfielders so we need to lower the standards for them on the other hand we have too many forwards and so the standards will be higher for that.
We need midfield personnel that can basically pass, mark and control the midfield. Nwakali, ovie ejaria etc fit into this and so we need to lower our standards as we don't have any better. ABI the important thing is for them to do a god job for us

Another thing is that if we get that midfield right we can score goals against baby team in the world as we have good forwards. Our match against Sao Tome showed this

Have an open mind Ovie and Nwakali are not on the same level by a huge margin.

TheSuperNerd:
When it comes to Kelechi Nwakali, Victor Osimhen, Sadiq Umar and more, Everything said about them in their downtimes is FACTS.

But when it comes to Dominic Iorfa, Fred Onyedimma, Sheyi Ojo, Ovie Ejaria and co... Everything about them becomes, "LOOK AT THE CONTEXT. There are factors responsible... bla bla bla"


Hypocrisy and double standards of the first order .

A black pot calling the kettle Black.

TheSuperDelusional once again your over inflated ego as always befuddled your confused mind.

What exactly does hypocrisy and double standard mean, you clearly don't know. Please go and check the Oxford dictionary it's that basic, but you don't know.

First of all the last time I talked about Dominic Iorfa, Fred Onyedimma, Sheyi Ojo, in the context as potential SE players was over 4 seasons ago . I've actually said don't think Dominic Iorfa is good enough. Thats your definition of double standard and hypocrisy, utter mindless nonsense.

Football performance is not a static but continuous upward or downward variable. Yes , I have talked about Oviemuno a quality midfielder not as much as or very recently. However, he is not in a failed career looking for anywhere to go.

Nwakali is on a consistent continuous downward spiral into different levels of mediocrity. But you never shut up about him , midfield maestro excellent talent bla bla bla that's balderdash and codswallop. This is almost on a daily basis. But he has done NOTHING in the past 7 years of substance.

Your the big hypocritical bigot, steeped in double standards your a sanctimonious twerp.

I've been quite thorough using qualitative and quantitative analysis to substantiate the deduction that the Segundo is a poor quality league and no where on the same level as the Championship.

But I am well aware that many here prefer the emotive preference over the substantive.

The actual reality is that all these players I dismissed as not good enough over four seasons have and continue to do way better than your over hyped mediocre midfielder Nwakali.

Yet you some how conclude in your infantile egotistical mind that I'm being hypocritical and using a double standard.

If we are to use your standard (Nwakali mediocrity) as a unit of measurement then there are over 70 Nigerian origin players ahead of NWAKALI in Europes top 10 leagues.

It's the same Championship that Etebo one of my favourite players couldn't make headway in. A league that over 10 Nigerian origin players are thriving. Yet he still outstanding for the SE.

Imagine putting NWAKALI ahead of Ovie that's ludicrous. A reminder of who Ovie is, for those of who have been misled and misinformed, See YouTube clip.

As much as YouTube clips are not conclusive they are still indicative. Now who is the hypocritical double standard bigot ❓


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7aQTZhwwhk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkIHqn7h2Vo

Danielnino00:
All these things you wrote about Iorfa na conspiracy theory.. Nothing is factual..
As at the time we approached Iorfa, we badly needed his service seeing as we were on a rebuilding mission..It was around the time we got Iwobi who was barely a regular in Arsenal first team at that time... Unfortunately for Iorfa,when he was ready to rep us, there wasn't much need for his service.. Let me remind you of a certain Nedum Onuoha..Their case are similar...

Even if your argument about Jorge Mendes systemically freezing Iorfa out of the team, then how come no better club came to sign him? Man has literally spent all his career in the lower division of English football...

You changed the narrative to suit your self created assumptions birthed from a prejudiced and ignorant mind.

I will renind you of the question, and my core response. Taking cognisance of the TIME frame.


Dominic committed to Nigeria at 21 before his projected 23. Rohr visited him personally and promised a call up he was in Championship with Sheffield Wednesday then.

Facts:

Dominic Iorfa father contested a corruption ridden rancourous NFF Presidency. No love lost between him and the eventual winner.

Rohr visited Dominic Iorfa jnr in Early 2017 ,it was made clear , that at the end of England U21 summer tournament he will commit to Nigeria, Rohr made a public commitment to invite him in 2017.

Dominic committed to Nigeria after finishing his time with England 21 At that TIME.

Dominic Iorfa was voted the club's Young Player of the Season in 2015 as a teenager. Had even been invited to train with England first team. At this stage he was benching Matt Docherty . He had to keep his commitment to Nigeria under the radar, to avoid contention with England and club.

You are fast forwarding matters out of the time frame.

Matters must be restricted to the time Frame that is the CONTEXT. Even his issues with Wolves came after his commitment to Nigeria and departure from England U21.

codemaniacs:
"Good" foreign born players don't want to play for the SE.. it has nothing to do with rotten system..

Can l ask before you came to this conclusion, how many players of Nigerian origin playing in Europe top League do you personally know. ❓

How much about the ingrained institutional corruption in the NFF do you know about and or have decided to pretend does not exist. ❓❓

Payment for selection and continuous selection has always been a part of the Nigerian football ⚽ structure for decades.❓❓❓

Ogochuks101:
Even if the full french team is made up of 99% black players. The bottom line is they are playing for the colonialists and they don't represent we Africans in anyway.

It's a question of subjective perspective.

Doesn't matter they are Africans playing for France but they are still Black Sub Saharan Africans.

Philosopher1979:
With Morocco appearance in the semi final I think it is time for an African team to win the world cup.
Ivory coast and Nigeria and some other African countries have more talent than Morocco so there is no excuse again. Our players are exposed to European football so why the fear.
It's an idea whose time has come. Yes Nigerian and African football has evolved bto that stage.
Can't everybody see.
Mikel has outplayed Spain in midfield before.
Musa has gone toe to toe with Messi before.
Kanu has dribbled everybody in Europe before. Drioga, eto, okocha etc can rub shoulders with the best.
The next journey is to win the world cup.
We should bstop being afraid.
Westerhoof was trying bto show us our potentials but we didn't get him.
Morocco is sending us a message. They has broken a psychological barrier

If pointless dribbling was all you need there would be no need to score goals.

mostob:
But these English fans are too petty sha...
Na Kane missed penalty, na saka and Rashford Dem dey yab

Sorry they are not petty AT ALL.

JUST RACIST that's all , we are used to it.

If that was Rashford who had missed that penalyhe would be hanging on the gallows with never ending abuse. But not even a whisper of criticism against Kane.

Saka was in my opinion the best player but who gets substituted first . He be should have been left to play. He was more effective than Kane.

Looks like the Africas of Europe are going to win this tournament.

As much as I want Morocco to win , without being divisive and racially biased.

When I see France it's like like looking at Not just sub Saharan Africa but West Africa personified.

Who are more representative of us African France or Moroccan Arab's.

This seem quite negatively biased and divisive I am truly confused.

Look at the celebration of France at the last World cup.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW2n3umJuaE

Danielnino00:
All these things you wrote about Iorfa na conspiracy theory.. Nothing is factual..
As at the time we approached Iorfa, we badly needed his service seeing as we were on a rebuilding mission..It was around the time we got Iwobi who was barely a regular in Arsenal first team at that time... Unfortunately for Iorfa,when he was ready to rep us, there wasn't much need for his service.. Let me remind you of a certain Nedum Onuoha..Their case are similar...

Even if your argument about Jorge Mendes systemically freezing Iorfa out of the team, then how come no better club came to sign him? Man has literally spent all his career in the lower division of English football...

Were you there ❓who is We

You talk by speculation not participation.

And you are contending with me.

AndSunGorilla:
No mind am, dat excuse get as e be, make a whole country wait for you, what nonsense, no matter the excuse. Very lame excuse as far as I am concerned, that's what some people have talked about, rolling red carpets for anyone. I definitely support the inclusion of any Nigerian origin player irrespective of where he or she is born, but the country should never be held to ransom by anyone.

Ransom is about perception not fact .

Marjoribanks:
I watched two games where he had the full complement of his players, and I am impressed with our style of play. He has brought Akpoguma back and now has Osayi to challenge Aina. Our problem is impatience. Let us give him time. We could also argue that Amunike was part of Equaveon's team. Therefore, he should not be spared from our World cup miss.
We all call for Finidi, Finidi is there now, but we still want Amunike back. I don't get it!

Osayi cannot challenge Aina for that Spot simply not good enough.

Maybe he can contend further up the field with Chukwueze I doubt Lookman.

elyte89:
Werey say komekun



Komekun ko...Ko mo amotekun ni

A Leopard never changes its spots it remains King fastest, swiftest and most cunning of the big Cats.

AndSunGorilla:
Omo ita ni e walahi

Gosh, got my lines mixed up, Komekn. Na my local yoruba accent I take write im name before.

Emi ko binu si awọn ti ko ni oye

AndSunGorilla:
Na d man wey dey claim gang-up against Britico guys I dey reply jare. As you guys say here,agenda must always agend. Imagine saying someone did he will make a decision when he's 23, but unfortunately time waits for no man, no body even look im side again .

You have omitted the other parts of the narrative to suite your view and or agenda.

Did Rohr visit him a big yes , what was agreed ❓

He made it very clear that he could not commit to Nigeria while he was playing for England U21 ( that's not honourable) and had not tied up a long term contract. That was made very clear to the powers that be. Even with his former Nigerian international agent in communication with the NFF.

I am telling you first hand and you are using your imagination.

AndSunGorilla:
Just for the records Kalu Uche was not dropped, he was invited but he chose to decline the invitation maybe in solidarity with his brother Ike who I believe shouldn't have been dropped. Maybe Sola took Martin's place.

Maybe Uchebo, Reuben, Uzoenyi, Uche Nwofor and quite a few other mediocre players took his place.

You didn't talk about Obagoal ❓

AndSunGorilla:
@Komekun please take note, for your records sir.

Been talking about Tells for quite some time now , sometimes the right club and manager makes a world of difference.

Before Kompany came I would never advise any black player to go there under Sean Dyche he is a well a RA*** Bigot.

AndSunGorilla:
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That's Jordan Torunarigha, the son if Ojokojo and he hasn't started playing us yet. Another ex international's son whose father even had more caps than Ojokojo is Dominic Iorfa and his son at the height of his success did not pick Nigeria.
Additionally, I remember a certain Sola Ameobi who at the height of his success didn't pick Nigeria, at the twilight of his career he surprisingly made Nigeria's world cup team in 2014, it could even be likened to reaping where one didn't sow.

Yes ,yes your right must have got them mixed up a bit

You are wrong with Dominic Iorfa, he said from the start that he would pick Nigeria when he gets to 23. He was the star boy of Wolves then, until super agent Mendes took over the club by proxy and he was frozen out.

He was still playing for England U21 and had not tied up a long term contract. In addition his Dad had contested for the NFF Presidency.

Dominic committed to Nigeria at 21 before his projected 23. Rohr visited him personally and promised a call up he was in Championship with Sheffield Wednesday then.

Somewhere along the line that promise did not come fruition just like Eberechi Eze and a few others. My speculation was that the bitter rancourous NFF election that his father was involved in with claims of vote buying (normal process) in Nigeria did not help Dominics case.

Dominic had a few injuries (Achilles rupture) actually just before a Premier League club had come in for him, lost his position and his club got relegated to league one.

My view is that he is currently not good enough, fast physical and tall but limited technical ability in my opinion. Maybe if his club gets to the Champions and he improves then he can be looked at again.

In 2014 we had selected such a poor collection of players that he was one of the better ones ,a team that SHOCKINGLY had Reuben Gabriel, Michael Uchebo, Azubuike Egwuekwe, Ejuke , Oshinawa, etc how did Obagoal and the Uche brothers get left out is the 7th wonder of this world.

Mujtahida:
All I know is that victory or a loss alters analysis. You are the best when you win and awful when you are defeated. Brazil were the best until they lost and all of a sudden I read how Vinicius, how Neymar don't track back. Now Morocco is the best. Okay ooo

Again everybody (except the winner of the final) who is rejoicing now will cry at the semi and the final.

Sometimes in a game the team may lose the match but were not in neccessrilybeaten.

Let me explain Brazil dominated this game had multiple scoring chances and could easily have had 2/3 goals or more. A combination of excellent goal keeping and a park the bus strategy by Croatia seen them defeat Brazil.

This has been strategy by Croatia.

Brazil lost on penalties very

AndSunGorilla:
Akpos is not in Belgium, he's still in Germany.

Oh gosh got that mixed up thank you.

Well he was on the up in the Bundisliga and rejected very clearly that he was not interested in the SE. Spurious claims of Juju by his Father in the camp.

He is very far from the German national team and decided to play for Nigeria no problems. However, when English Nigerian players do similar there is an outcry by some .

TheSuperNerd:
Lol... UK independent? Really? That's the "Many"? Hahahahaha. That's your premise? An obviously biased take based on only Cama's first couple of mins in an unfamiliar role?

So you didn't even watch the game? Wow. How in character again, Komekn.

A midfielder was played out of his natural position at Leftback, struggled for the first few mins and still recovered himself and went on to set a ground duels won record is who you are saying had a poor game and cannot defend?

Your reference says Cama was beaten EASILY by Laidouni. How many times did that happen? In truth he was only beaten ONCE.

Here is "Unbiased" Squawka's take on it....

Hope you can see that you picked up the mic to talk only to discover that you are not yet mature in the truth game. You should stay far away from the mic next time.

You need help your quest for validation on a faceless forum is bewildering your over inflated ego and delusional self importance are unhealthy.

I gave an opinion about Camavinga playing woefully as a LB against Tunisia, I watched his positioning, anticipation and desperate tackling . He is an excellent midfielder but a very poor LB it's not a big deal.

But it's a big deal for you, why do you feel you have to always be right and get into vociferous contention with anyone who disagrees with you.❓

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codemaniacs:
There's no such thing as a patriotic Nigerian...

read what your fellow Igbo said below... you can click his username to see the comment he was responding to.

Your IGNORANCE is beyond measure.

My tribe is not Igbo ,you lack knowledge and understanding go and discover where the people of Onitsha originated from and be shocked.

Unrepentant tribalistic bigot you are NAKED.