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Danielnino00:
This is a case of passing over an easy opportunity because you feel there's a better one ahead.. His father saying we should wait until he turn 23 had nothing to do with maturity..The man was hoping his son would turn out to be a superstar and get called up by England...

Did you speak to his father or him or his agent ❓

And that is what they told you

MainJoe:


Same person with the most gaffes on this thread. Last last, no shred of evidence. Just tumbo tumbo.

The Nigerian Doctor has said it in black and white. Even those with low degree of fusion can get fused in some months time.

Blows holes into your theoretical lies of no fusion until 20/21 years. Choi. The like heavy.

Next.

And all the peer reviewed published journals by emeritus academics is a load of rubbish.

You are prepared to take the non researched perfunctory view of one Nigerian medical doctor over multiple published academics.

You are clutching at straws and you are already sinking like lead in water.

benji93:
Again, how many? That is the one-million-dollar question. It's not a common thing. Did I not admit that even actual 16-year-olds can have complete fusion? The article proper clearly mentions one case. I am not denying that you could have an actual 17-year-old failing the test. That would be quite ignorant.

I am talking about averages here. I can see you now know where my argument is going, the reason why you are now skirting around. You previously mentioned them and I asked you, how many cases in a given sample.? The question is what happens on average? I mean for instance in a sample of 100 16-year-olds, if 5 of them fail the test, it would be fruitless to argue the five. Oh yes I know the five, but you make decisions based on averages first, then you try to see if you can accommodate the others. Very simple. That's the direction statistics take. Otherwise, there would be no need to calculate the mean, standard deviation e.t.c.

I never said the Ghanaian article is not Ok. I actually hail them for highlighting the issues with respect to the data they collected, but yet you cannot ignore those issues, they significantly affect the accuracy of the Protocol.

And I agree it's taken an extended period of time so it's gone stale. I hail you for continuing this conversation, without evading clear arguments(even though you caused some problems ), unlike our mutual friend. . Hopefully, others get something from this. So I will make my final point and you can do with it what you want.

I previously argued from the article proper an average age of 18 for stage V, Which doesn't include Sub-Saharan Africans. If you include the fact that SA is lower than CA for a Sub-Saharan African country, which means the MRI age lags behind the chronological age, the 18 average goes up to about 20+ for Sub-Saharan African countries.

The reasons suggested by the Malawian study, i.e Malaria and Diarrhea are common in Sub-Saharan Africa, malaria especially, so that doesn't pose a serious problem for the argument.

Also, the Malawian study is more useful in this discussion because it didn't center its sampling on Players. They essentially almost eliminated the main problem that would pollute their data. I believe it's the reason they were able to discover the lag.

I support one of the conclusive remarks of the Ghanaian study. A comprehensive study on Black Africans without the incentive to lie needs to be conducted to be able to properly grade their fusions. As it stands the plus or minus of the use of the MRI on Sub-Saharan Africa is certainly uncertain. The study is needed to narrow down the range and properly quantify it, so you can say, for instance, it has an accuracy of 85% +-5%. As it stands all you can say is it screens out the Old papas. .

Anyways thank you. Maybe we can get back to discussing Tikitaka now. That's a more enjoyable conversation.

There are a number of people intelligent as they are, who wish to pursue a narrative that's fiction and not fact.

Using the established facts one can make informed assumptions that are credible and highly probable. Without the need for empirical research data to prove otherwise.

Boys in the USA with it's cocktail of GM foods, high protein diets , high quality healthcare , sports science, infrastructure development, etc

These boys will be taking a cocktail of vitamins, protein including creatine, to enhance muscle growth and recovery. This will accelerate bone fusion , this is why you will see boys at 15 with beards and almost full adult development. I've seen 14 year oldd who are 6"3'.

It's therefore probable to consider the impact of deprivation particularly when you leave north Africa and move towards the more impoverished sub Saharan Africa.

Deprivation ( poor health care, malnutrition, poot sanitation, mental and physical stresses) . If malnutrition results in stunted growth that includes delayed bone fusion.

Why then is it hard for some particular individuals to accept that if you have people in the West getting thorough the MRI scan at 18+. Is it not more probable, therefore, that a sub Saharan African can get through at 21 because his bones have not met bone fusion maturity.

It's very simple, don't know why some people want to round in circles and deny the blatantly obvious.

We act like our electorate pretending they two geriatric criminals are credible Presidential candidates. When there is clear and widely available evidence to the contrary.

benji93:
Again, how many? That is the one-million-dollar question. It's not a common thing. Did I not admit that even actual 16-year-olds can have complete fusion? The article proper clearly mentions one case. I am not denying that you could have an actual 17-year-old failing the test. That would be quite ignorant.

I am talking about averages here. I can see you now know where my argument is going, the reason why you are now skirting around. You previously mentioned them and I asked you, how many cases in a given sample.? The question is what happens on average? I mean for instance in a sample of 100 16-year-olds, if 5 of them fail the test, it would be fruitless to argue the five. Oh yes I know the five, but you make decisions based on averages first, then you try to see if you can accommodate the others. Very simple. That's the direction statistics take. Otherwise, there would be no need to calculate the mean, standard deviation e.t.c.

I never said the Ghanaian article is not Ok. I actually hail them for highlighting the issues with respect to the data they collected, but yet you cannot ignore those issues, they significantly affect the accuracy of the Protocol.

And I agree it's taken an extended period of time so it's gone stale. I hail you for continuing this conversation, without evading clear arguments(even though you caused some problems ), unlike our mutual friend. . Hopefully, others get something from this. So I will make my final point and you can do with it what you want.

I previously argued from the article proper an average age of 18 for stage V, Which doesn't include Sub-Saharan Africans. If you include the fact that SA is lower than CA for a Sub-Saharan African country, which means the MRI age lags behind the chronological age, the 18 average goes up to about 20+ for Sub-Saharan African countries.

The reasons suggested by the Malawian study, i.e Malaria and Diarrhea are common in Sub-Saharan Africa, malaria especially, so that doesn't pose a serious problem for the argument.

Also, the Malawian study is more useful in this discussion because it didn't center its sampling on Players. They essentially almost eliminated the main problem that would pollute their data. I believe it's the reason they were able to discover the lag.

I support one of the conclusive remarks of the Ghanaian study. A comprehensive study on Black Africans without the incentive to lie needs to be conducted to be able to properly grade their fusions. As it stands the plus or minus of the use of the MRI on Sub-Saharan Africa is certainly uncertain. The study is needed to narrow down the range and properly quantify it, so you can say, for instance, it has an accuracy of 85% +-5%. As it stands all you can say is it screens out the Old papas. .

Anyways thank you. Maybe we can get back to discussing Tikitaka now. That's a more enjoyable conversation.

Agreed without question your substantive contribution.

Please understand that intelligence rests with the minority not the majority and truth is not always popular to those who want to LIE.

Odunayaw:
By now you ought to have settled it in your mind that Komekn is a bag of sewage.

The reason I got into the discussion is because it started with a moniker that doesn't have a record of excreting everywhere

You know a Gong farmer that's a sewage worker or as they are known in Edo " Agbekpo" are experts at identifying the most rancid ,mephetic, noxious, putrid and disgusting levels of raw sewage and excrement.

That's why are an expert because that's where you live in the foul smelling sewage. That's your comfort zone , where there is human excrement.

However,they are so use to being knee deep in sewage and waste, that anything that is sweet smelling and clean they are unable to identify and even find it repugnant.

Not everyone is LIKE YOU , Agbekpo

TheGoodJoe:
Attacking me will not help your course.

The point is simple. When Ndidi started working with Nduka Ugbade,[b] he was one of the smallest boys [/b]among his peers. After working with him for years, he watched Ndidi grow to one of the tallest kids.

He is sure Ndidi is a small boy and punches holes into the lies you are trying to spread. Try a better attack.

Using your subjective and perceptive led assumptive analytics, i.e. "was one of the smallest boys"

Consider the be picture of Ashley Young ,
was one of the smallest boys in Aston Villa therefore he is not 37 It must be a LIE he can't be more than 21

Danielnino00:
The articled can be summarized like this

1) There were questions as to how Chukwudi and other players passed the first MRI test which raised doubt as to whether the test was conducted on them at all

2) Chukwudi and the suspected players failed to show up for the second scan which further casted doubts on their participation in the first scan

3) The MRI scan in 2009 wasn't made mandatory by FIFA.. It was easy for corruption to set in as it was voluntarily done by the NFF.

Based on all these, using 2009 as a case study for the authenticity of the MRI is pointless.. it wasnt a properly documented process...

You are changing the narrative shamelessly without restraint.

I introduced the narrative of the 2009 U17 supposed youth team as a direct response TO YOU and your misguided proposition. Not benji93

You presented a obnoxious proposition based on perceptive preference not substance. I then used the framework of that nonsensical proposition to show you how inept it was.

I then used comparison analysis with that same inept proposition. Using unscientific observation that it is quite compelling and you still cannot concede that Ndidi failed the MRI test and is definitely not 26.

You should not be so evasive , your question ❓ should be directed to me not benji93

Danielnino00:
First of all, bring any statistical ranking of the top 10 defensive midfielders in the world from at least 5 respectable sports websites and let's see if Ndidi name won't be there.
You're being hypocritical as usual. Ndidi had been battling injuries of recent which has limited his starting role in the team. He is fully fit now and has started the last few games and even captained them once. Does that sound like a man who isn't assured of a starting shirt in his team?
I dare you to bring the list of the top 10 DM in the world in recent years...

Don't bring Omeruo into the discussion... I don't have any argument in support of our national team u-17 products of the pre 2013 set.. Ndidi's age and form is the discussion here..

It's funny you will add Iwobi who was born in the same Nigeria that doesn't have automatic data capture at birth.... Going by your logic, Iwobi's age should be under question too..

Meanwhile,below is Ndidi in 2013 supposedly aged 16.. the year he failed MRI

Hypocritical -a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs.


Let's get that out the way , because it's apparent you don't know the meaning of hypocrisy. It also alludes to double standard.

Statistics are not a stand alone component but converge with other variables. So for instance Ngole Kante may not have the highest tackle rate ,but is considered the best DM in the World, you can add Casemiro, Thiago, etc.

A measure of your quality is the amount of transfer interest a player generates among top teams. Ndidi in recent times generates none.

Football is time constrained and therefore HERE and NOW assesment is intrinsic to all performance deductions. We don't use. "recent years" . Last season Tega was outstanding HERE and NOW he is not , he may catch up but let's see, his value has dropped as a result. Football is impatient get over it and deal with it.

Injury is another performance variable that impacts on value performance present and continuous. If you get injured somebody takes your place and you may have to fight to get it back. Also if you are labelled injury prone or you take longer to recover, interest and value will drop.

What is hypocritical about these observations and deductions, this is the very nature of football ⚽. There is not one rule for Ndidi and a different one for everyone else.

So what's hypocritical about that Dr 2know.❓

Iwobi left Nigeria as a toddler to Turkey and then to England his nursery school, primary school his time playing Sunday football ⚽ well documented. Nothing in doubt.

Fred Onyedinma was born in Lagos some of you don't know but you put that ignominious label FB upon him. He got here aged 3. He played in the same Blackheath district team as Iwobi.

So can you show me the hypocrisy here please ❓❓

Will you apologize or your Ego will not allow you to do that.

Mujtahida:
My point really is that the prevalence of age cheating, has provided good grounds for doubts to be cast on the age of our footballers.
Are there people who give their real ages? Yes. Look at the 93 u-17 set for example. Those guys were either 17 or thereabouts. But Chrisantus and his fellow grandpas were totally out of the range.

All I'm saying is that if people don't cheat, nobody will have grounds to even cast aspersions in the first place.

Are you a Nigerian ❓

Consider our socio -ecomomic dynamics and our ingrained penchant for crooked behaviour.

Age is intrinsically linked to value and opportunity in football. Taking 3-5 years of your age will be the difference to living in abject poverty or living the football ⚽ dream of affluence riches and luxury for not just yourself but whole family.

What will you do ❓❓❓ or what will 99% of Nigerians do if they can get away with it.

Do you know how many guys have married women older than them unknown to them.

Age cheating is our national culture, look at the highest level PMB or Emi lokan all age cheats.

I agree that MRI has put a stop to Uncles parading themselves as U17 players, but you can, nonetheless, shade 3-5 years off your real age is a definite possibility.

TheGoodJoe:

Crap. Ndidi was a small boy when he joined Coach Nduka Ugbade. Small pickin. He grew up under his watch. Think of another lie.

Do you know to the blind man the moon � is dark .

You dismiss anything that doesn't fit your self birthed imaginative notions. Your just like a typical Nigerian politician no substances just noise, wind and fresh air.

Odunayaw:
Please tell me why it's the most important and also tell me your deductions from it

An educated person will read , analyse and then make informed commentary.

And you are asking him to tell you what ❓

It's the kind of question a village illiterate will ask, whaaten the book talk �️ because he can't read and write.

Your question ❓ Says a lot about you and it's not exemplary.

Danielnino00:
Since you are basing your statements on assumptions, how about this?
Ndidi that you claim might have falsified hid age has been playing professionally for 10 years now and is considered one of the best DM in the premier league and definitely top 10 in the world based on verifiable stats..Never mind his recent injury spells..
If Ndidi falsified his age, I don't think he would be playing so well at a top level at this stage..

You are making huge assumptions about Ndidi',s quality and pedigree in the HERE and NOW. He is not in the top 10 in the world but any stretch of the imagination, that's your fantasy, wake up .

Ndidi is struggling to be first choice in Leicester City and you think he is in the top 10 in the EPL. Have you not noticed he hardly gets any interest from other top clubs in the EPL and across Europe.

Leicester are in the lower percentile of the EPL table and one loss away from being in the relegation zone.

MRI proves without a shadow of doubt that Ndidi was over the age of 17 how much over is open to debate. Could he have been 20/21 absolutely yes. That's a small physiological difference of 3-5 years but in football marketing terms and opportunity a WORLD of DIFFERENCE.

What the MRI does is prevent a mockery of the system. In 2009 we presented Uncles as U17 players when Fortune Chukwudi was held to account he was closer to 30 at the time. His response was, I am not the only one, why my me. He was actually right, nobody in that group was under U17.

Over time it's become apparent you have a preference for perception over facts, self birthed imaginative notions and fantasies.

You have moved away from facts and substantive deductions to wishy washy propositions without substance.

But let me descend with you and use your self birthed unit of measurement and a bit of comparison analysis. To show you how stupendously inept your proposition is.

We will use Omeruo for many here an outstanding top level defender, not me.

In 2009 he claimed to be 15 , do you or does anybody here believe that ❓ He is now 29 that's just 3 years older than Ndidi. Omeruo had been a consistent continuous average if not below average performer in his entire career. No real progression just average but always in the SE. So he had been able to perform continuous without break albeit averagely for 12 years.

Has anybody seen a 15 year old remain largely the same until he is 29 ❓ No change facial development , remain the same height, body structure, etc I have not.

The say a picture tells a thousand words and a video therefore a million words, IMO, for good measure.

Please look at 17 year old Iwobi both deh chop Oha soup with pounded yam and compare to a supposed 15 year old Omeruo and if you like 18 year old Ndidi. Make your own perception led deductions.

Shockingly Ndidi and Iwobi are the same age and Omeruo is only supposedly 3 years older than him. Picture of an 18 year old Ndidi at Genk in 2016 who failed an MRI scan in April 2013, that's 3 years earlier.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G54QflUOpKo

benji93:
The problem is you are assuming Ndidi and Muazam were actually 16-year-olds because they claimed it. They claimed they were 16, and FIFA was not sure they were telling the truth so they use the MRI. Our players have a history of lying about their ages, so for the recent generations, the assumption is they are likely lying, hence the use of the MRI to screen out the old papas 22+ claiming 16. The question is what is the maximum actual age for which a player can claim 16 across the world? Does it differ from one place to another? And if possible by how much? So do you want me to continue with my point?

You are waisting your time.

These guys want to call the moon blue when it's clearly bright white.

Habit is the beginning of character and character ingrained on a national scale becomes culture.

Age cheating is an intrinsic part of our national character. At every level of society we have age cheating in Nigeria and Africa in general.

Everybody knows that player valuation is intrinsically linked with age. Every football academy I have been to in Nigeria. The question asked is not how old the players are But how old do you want them to be ❓

We do not have automatic birth data capture and as such you rely on the integrity of individuals. Sworn declaration of age. Nobodys age in Nigeria can be officially verified by a government institution.

So for instance just add a mere 3 years to V.O. age and a big chunk of his transfer value will be gone.

So you want to rely on individual integrity for age verification, in country where there is None. TheGoodJoe has called me a LIAR dont think he knows what the word means. He knows the truth but denies it .

Danielnino00:
Ayoze Perez ..lol..

Rodgers doesn't rate Nacho..
I don't think Nacho cares anyway...

I really don't know anybody in English football who does, just a few people here, that's all.

charlesemeka85:
Talent no dey hide

Even in league one that many here dismiss.

Aribo went from league one to Rangers. Why are we going to the rubbish dump of MEDIOCRITY to find players.

Tim Iroegbunam should have been on the radar of the NFF not Nwakali and players in obscure league relying on youth football exploits.

Do you know that Italian and German clubs start tracking players at 13 building up a performance dossier over several years. So by 16 they are ready to go for the player.

There is a player in a EPL club that at the age of 13 had already got one of the fastest sprint records in all EPL Academies and that includes U18 players.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL-aNNc-IFs

charlesemeka85:
Update: Shehu Abdulahi Axed By His Bulgarian Club Just After 3 Months

Super Eagles defender, Shehu Abdulahi, has been axed out of his Bulgarian Club Levski Sofia for a yet go be unknown reasons.

According to reports, the former Omonia Nicosia player is back in Nigeria and remained clubless while he's still looking for a new club.

"I think it's salary related. He's back in Nigeria now and hope to make a move soon. One thing is certain, he won't be without a team for long and as a free player he will appeal to several teams," Owngoal quoted a source close to the player.

This dude will struggle in non league but can get into the SE wonders will never cease.

TheSuperNerd:
Well, actually, it's not just me. So also is Diario AS, Spain (Note especially the green-underlined in the news article).

Truth is when Iwobi got injured, I was really worried. Worried because there is no other midfielder I can point at to do what he does in the Super Eagles midfield. No one with the same or similar midfield profile and attributes except Kelechi Nwakali. That's our NT reality as much as many won't admit this.

Anyway, Diario AS in Spain has 3.2 Million followership on twitter. They also are still talking about Nwakali... so yep, there you go.

Your clutching at straws to present a narrative that has no iota of substance, i.e. that has some level of quality.

Villarreal B is essentially the Villarreal U21 youth team, that's what you are anchoring ⚓ your deduction for quality upon. Thats simply delusional.

Villarreal B will not beat any league one team in England and will struggle against all league two teams if they can even beat one.

By comparison analysis, Villa Real B struggled to beat Wolves U21 with a very slim 1-0 win. No EPL U21 team has beaten a Championship team or a League one Team and I don't even recall a league two team.

Wolves U21 were flogged comprehensively by Liverpool FC U21, 5-0. That gives you context about the inherent quality of the Villarreal B team and indeed the lower mid to bottom of the Segundo division.

Nwakali failed at Arsenal and even couldn't get in to the Sporting B team .

Wake up from this obsession with mediocrity that you use to feed your over inflated ego. And look for players who are outstanding performers not wallowing in MEDIOCRITY.

By implication using your own very low unit of measurement as the standard for selection to the SE.

All Nigerian origin players doing well in EPL Academies are better than him including 15 year old Nwaneri Arsenal player. In that discussion will be all Nigerian origin players from EPL to League one essentially.

Whats disturbing is no your unrepentant bigoted hypocritical double standard and your quasi tribal discrimination against Nigeria origin players birthed in Europe.

Many have you have lambasted and poured out a continuous stream of vitriolic bitter rhetoric against players I mentioned 4/5 seasons ago. That I felt were good enough then but not anymore as a consequence I haven't talked about some of them for over 4 seasons.

Players such as Tega Onomah, Oviemuno, Onyedinma, Sheyi Ojo, etc but the reality is that these guys are doing way better and are Better Quality than Nwakali by a considerable margin. None of them have had contract terminated prematurely, or had to beg for clubs some even earn 10 times more than Nwakali.

But you are unrestrained in saying they are too poor for the SE ,but Nwakali is too good. The reality is that Nwakali will not smell the bench of their clubs in the here and now.

The rancid stench of your hypocritical double standard bigotry is over powering.

jihday:
if it was a naija born player you’ll say agent work but an innit player you dey write epistle

Can you quote one reference in the last 5 years where I have used the terminology "Agent Work " in any scenario or you are just a inconsequential attention seeking bare faced liar.

But back to your bare faced negative bias and misinformation. With regards to Fisayo is there anything exaggerated, is there anything untrue,is there anything that's untoward or misrepresented.

Please Pretty please ❓❓❓

TheSuperNerd:
I strongly resisted any chance of Osimhen moving to Man Utd last summer for obvious reasons. But like I also said then, I will welcome a switch to Man Utd in the summer of 2023 provided it is the BEST move among other likely options. Timing is everything.


Osimhen on Manchester Utd's Radar for the Summer of 2023

According to reports, Manchester Utd's acquisition of Wout Weghorst is a stop-gap/short term signing with a view to a substantive signing for the number 9 role in the summer.

And the players strongly on their radar are Harry Kane, Victor Osimhen and Benjamin Sesko (actually Sesko is headed to RB leipzig in July 2023 or don't someone at Man Utd know that already?)

Let me also add that Victor Osimhen fits the Striker Profile for ETH's system, I will admit.

Anyway, Time will tell... as always.

Jumping to hasty conclusions once again.

mostob:
Do you even know the meaning of MRI? Without checking anywhere, can you even tell me what MRI stands for?
Schooling you is a waste of time.

It's quite obvious you've never had a MRI scan.

I've had three MRI scans all related to sports injuries, that by default means a discussion with radiologists in a top university teaching hospital in the UK.

I have both first hand participative understanding as well as research based understanding.

What do you have , prejudice and negative ignorance anchored on infantile rancourous noise making.

mostob:
I'll be surprised if you have.

Simple question... Can you prove that a 21-year old can pass MRI? Na so so story una dey type everywhere.

Anyway, why have you refused to respond to my question concerning Moffi? Running away with your tail behind your legs already?

Can you prove that he cannot ❓

After all the informative substantive peer reviewed published extracts presented you are unable to comprehend.

I leave you to remain in you illiterate paradise.

charlesemeka85:
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/ac-milan-transfer-sheffield-wednesday-25932281

Fisayo dele bashiru linked with a shock move to AC Milan. Besiktas, Antalayspor and PSV Eindhoven interested too

But league one players are too low for the SE.

We will rather collect a Midfielder who has been on consistent continuous downward spiral into different levels of MEDIOCRITY. That some call Maestro of the midfield , wallowing in obscurity in the very lower percentile of the Segunda division .

I remember Fisayo in a game against Liverpool U21 over 2 years ago.

He was running the midfield and to be honest Harvey got rinsed in and out and resorted to shirt pulling.

Knew he was very good but wasn't sure he was going to get opportunity to develop and improve.

AC Milan recruitment is intensively detailed and thorough I know this from when Jedi was at Wigan Athletic and he failed a medical at Milan. They would have been looking at him for probably 4+ years.

MainJoe:

I doubt you understood what you posted. The accuracy of MRI is not in doubt due to its accuracy despite racial, environmental and nutritional factors.

99% accuracy is not beans. Stop spreading falsehood and claiming integrity.

Finito.

I have nothing more to say to you .

ahnie:

Do you by any chance to an out service so I can contract you to do similar for me please.

MainJoe:
No one is arguing age falsification. The point is the lie that 20/21 years old can pass the wrist MRI scan. That is a bold faced lie.

No it's not.

It's simplistic will everybody have the exact same bone fusion at the same age.

Are we all the same height ❓did we all grow at the same rate ❓❓Did we all stop growth at the same age❓❓❓ Does deprivation ( poverty, malnutrition, poor health care, environmental factors physical and mental ) impact on health and wellbeing and therefore GROWTH ❓❓❓❓❓

The accuracy of the MRI in determining bone fusion is not in dispute. However, the disparities between race genetic and environmental are variable that impact on the age at which bone Fusion will occur in different races and People as well as individuals.

Can you stop making unnecessary emotive based arguments come down from your egoistical high horse and stop � making chaotic noise .

Icon4s:
You know naa...
Okoye is not Super Eagles standard. Back in the days he would not even had been first choice goalie for our U23 team.

If you go down that route how many players are SE standard by comparison to the era of Olise, JJay, Finidi, etc.

None of the present goalkeeper are outstanding.

yinkeys:
Osimhen is a world class striker now
It’d be poor in my opinion to rate his performance against mediocre and lowly rated teams
We should rate him when Napoli plays Europe’s or Italy’s elites
Let’s see what & how he does against Juve, inter, Roma, Milan
Sampdoria were never a match for this day Napoli
How would he regularly fare against the big boys
After 17 matches they’ve got same points with Arsenal in England lol
Will the Scudetto final come to Naples ?
Does Napoli fold against the big boys ?
Will Osimhen win the Serie A golden boot?
Is he always lethal against the elites like Mbappe for example ?
Only time will tell

Very good striker yes, but world class , l guess it depends on what your mean by World class.

Has he in his entire career been among the top 3 strikers in a top league .

The first time in his career that he may exceed 15 league gaols in a season is now . Will he be the highest goal scorer in Seria A at the end of the season ❓ l hope he does , because it's about time all the potential is realised with actual goals.

In 2021 Simy scored 20 goals in Seria A but nobody called him world class .

In my opinion the key performance indicator is consistency at the highest level over at least 3 seasons.

So we can say Mane, Salah, Lukaku, Ronaldo, Messi, Benzema, Mbappe, Neymar are world class.

Dusan Vlahovic , 22 years old , is top striker , after two consecutive season at the top of Seria A goal table,but nobody calls him world class. Ciro Immobile is a very good striker but nobody calls him World class. And many would say they are better than V.O.

I think the tag WORLD CLASS is premature, for a player yet to win anything yet.

Karlovych:
It's unlikely he will accept a call up from SE, he belongs to the Solanke, Ibe, Barkley, and Billing bandwagon.

I can assure you he has zero affinity with anything Nigerian, he grew up in Toxteth but he has no relationship with anything Nigerian.

123jamessmith:
Please nairaland, there is one Jones that used to play for Liverpool. For long I have not been hearing that name again.. That guy use to be a very good midfielder, and also has a Nigeria root.

I know him but never knew he had Nigerian roots .

However, it may be true and not surprising at all. In my estimation at least 60% of all mixed race children in Liverpool are of Nigerian heritage.

We have a less than honourable reputation that is a legacy of the defunct NNSL . And all the sailors who were resident in Liverpool and did so much hit and run with the Local Liverpool women

benji93:
Na you suppose hide in shame, no be Komekn. . Anyone that knows his onions with respect to discussing decisions supposedly based on a comprehensive scientific study knows to set some ground rules, otherwise, you would run around in circles. In the course of our discussion I realized that when I make an argument that poses one question, you invent your question and answer it. . Such duplicity. You clearly have no idea what the article is saying. You are scared to answer a simple question.

Everyone bear me witness. I will do it one more time. Komekn, if you can chime in, pls do. And certainly anybody else.

As shown in the figure, the article details a study that conducted an examination protocol on samples of players from four countries. Switzerland, Malaysia, Algeria and Argentina. True or false?

It's transparently clear what's been presented but you are engaging with a person who refuses to engage on a substantive frame work but will muddy the waters EVADE and misrepresent to support a flawed narrative.

It's an exercise in futility.

MainJoe:
Stop changing mouth Mr. Integrity. You rated the Segunda league, not teams to league two or even lower than league two.

Can you please even in your misinformation be coherent your not making any sense, with respect.

chrisooblog:
Bros you don come again someone is 3rd best goal scorer behind the likes of Mbappe and Neymar while you're mentioning Grey, Townsend and Gordon are you taking the mickey?

Mbappe is on another level completely as well as Neymar.

Then you have 5 players all on 10 goals Moffi, Folarin, Lacazette, that's 5 players behind Neymar not just one.

Scoring in the French league is not the same level as the EPL. Consider that an older much less faster Lacazette has left the EPL and is now scored more goals in 17 games than he ever did in 5 years in the EPL.

Tell me two strikers in recent times last 7/8 years that were able to replicate his French league goal tally in the EPL.

And you think they will be better than what Everton have , you are taking the Mickey not me. Put any of these players into the French league and they will be scoring a lot more goals than they do in the EPL.