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Christianity Etc › Re: A Seeker Questions Justcool About The Grail Message. by Krismas(m): 3:26pm On Sep 04, 2022
justcool:
@ newness101

Thanks for your worthy questions.

You are absolutely right that a loving God would not send spirit germs(fresh spirit germs from Paradise) into a world where evil already exists; hence evil did not exist, even in the material world, before mankind descended into it. The word used in the description in the Grail message is "ignoble vibrations," not evil vibrations. I know the word "ignoble" is related to "evil" and, in some cases, the two words can be used interchangeably as synonyms. But here, one has to let go of rigidity and follow the lecture intuitively. Here we must let go of rigid definition of words, in order to proceed farther. Words can only take us so far, i.e. to the proximity of the Truth; but in order to grasp the Truth we must proceed with our intuitive perception. Here "ignoble" is totally different from "evil." In order to convey my perception on what is meant by "ignoble vibrations" I will paint a picture(analogy) for you.


Imagine a child sent to school for the first time. Once he enters the school compound, even at the outskirts of the school, he is confronted by emanations from the activities that go on in the school. He can see gardeners working in the gardens in the school; he can see or hear students going to classes, in fact the buildings and classes are marked so that he would not miss his way if he so wishes. As he walks around, he might perceive the smell of food oozing from the canteen or refectory. He can see and hear construction workers maintaining the buildings; as he looks further, he sees the cleaners cleaning the premises. He see the school police department or security directing cars and keeping the premises safe and peaceful. He can even hear cars roaring as the pull in and out of the school parking lots. All these numerous activities going on in the school emanate or sends ripples, be they noise, smell, etc. through which one can perceive them. The new student confronted by all these activities now has to decide. He can decide to follow the signboard welcoming new students and directing them to the class to go. He can also decide to follow the sweet aroma of the food and his will lead him to the canteen or refectory where he will only while away his precious time. He may get fascinated by the campus police and follow them around all day. He may even work of the construction workers interesting and get lost in watching them, or the he may like the smell of the cleaning solution that the cleaners use and hence hang around the cleaners all day.

If this new student follows any of these activities, apart from going to class, we can describe him as having followed ignoble activity. Ignoble, in the sense that that activity offers him no benefit as a student, and not that the activity is evil! Hence the Grail message(the English translation) uses the word "ignoble." Ignorable in the sense that it is not a noble or even honorable venture for the spirit, because it offers the spirit no benefit; and not that the vibrations/activities are evil. Neither are they traps or sneers for the spirit germs. God tempts no one! You wouldn't accuse the school authority of setting sneers for the new students just because in addition to schooling there are other activities in the school as well. These activities are necessary to keep the school functioning, they do not interfere with the students activities; however, the student must only follow the activities that he came to school for. Indeed the student should be grateful for these other activities that help keep his school alive and functioning.

In the above analogy, the new student going to school for the first time are the spirit germs entering the world of matter for the first. At this point everything in the world of matter is pure, just as the school described above, and evil is totally out of the question. The world of matter can be likened to a gigantic school where the elementals(Pure servants of God) develop, keep order, and above all keep in motion. Hence even before the first spirit germs entered the world of matter, there were already numerous activity going on in it. Just as the gardeners work on the school garden; the handymen work on the school buildings, the chefs on the school kitchen, etc., the elementals work in the world of matter, some work in the air, some or solids, molding planets, mountains, rocks, etc. Some work in liquids, forming and guiding lakes, rivers, etc. Others work in radiations, lightening up stars, suns, etc. and guiding their radiations. And after these came another species of animistic beings, the germs of the animals we see on earth. These had to wear material bodies, the physical as the outermost while they live on earth. All these activities sends ripples across the world of matter; just as the activities in the aforementioned school or our physical activities sends out ripples though smell, sound, etc. These are the vibrations talked about in the lecture MAN AND HIS FREE WILL.

If you read that lecture carefully you will also notice in the worlds of matter we do not only receive vibrations from activities therein, but also from above. The activities of the matured spirits in Paradise, far above the world of matter, also sends ripples down into the world of matter. Like the surest hand of guidance, these ripples/emanations/radiations are like rivers of guidance that can guide any spirit germ that opens itself to them or decides to follow them. And following these spiritual currents of ripples should be the most natural thing for the spirit germs because the spirits germs bears homogeneity to these currents, i.e. they(the spirit germs) originate from Paradise, from whence these ripples emanate. The spirit germ that follows these heavenly vibrations will soon be so affected that her/his inner qualities(which are pure) will be so strengthened into activity and the reciprocal reaction of these activities will mature the spirit. A spirit that proceeds this way is sure of salvation, she/he will one day resurrect from matter back to Paradise. On the other hand, the spirit germ that follows ignoble vibration/ripples or radiations will not receive the strengthening of her/his inherent spiritual qualities due to lack of homogeneity. These are called ignoble vibrations because they originate from bellow Paradise, form the world of matter; and only that which comes from the spiritual world can nourish or strengthen the inherent pure spiritual qualities of the spirit germs. Hence these ignoble vibrations can only hand on the covering of the spirit germs, preventing their inherent pure spiritual qualities from developing and bearing good fruit, i.e. coming into activity.

In the above explanation, in the fact that vibrations, ripples, or spiritual currents coming from Paradise also enters the world of matter, we see the great and indescribable Love and wisdom of the creator! Love for the spirits germs which only need to follow these spiritual currents (currents to which the already have affinity to because they are spirits as well), to reach their goal. Indeed the human spirit that allows himself or herself to go astray is quite deplorable, because the love of God clearly shows us the way. The student described above, imagine if his father is so loving that every second, every minute, every hour, he could hear his father reminding him his mission at school. Or imagine his father calls or writes to him everyday reminding him of his mission in school. What would you call such a student if after everything he goes astray? The spiritual vibrations from Paradise are like calls or letters the student receives from home everyday, loving providing his needs and pointing him towards the right direction. In deed God is not silent. The Love of God is the most obvious thing there is.


Although the above paragraphs have answered your questions, I will deal with them directly:



The so called ignoble vibrations are simply vibrations arising from activities in the world of matter, lower vibrations, as opposed the higher vibrations arising from activities in the spiritual sphere. You can substitute the word "ignoble" with "low," "lower," or "non spiritual vibrations." Evil is out of the question here, as well as Lucifer.



Yes this perfectly harmonizes with the truth that evil originated from mankind. As I already explained the so called 'ignoble' vibrations are not evil. The concept of evil is entirely different. Evil is from the onset an intention to harm another, just for the sake of it or for self gain. Only mankind indulges in such practices. Even animals did not sink to that level.



Temptation and setting of sneers are out of the question here. God tempts no one! The wrong principle of temptation is the brain child of Lucifer. And it is opposed to God's principle of Love, which supports, waits hand and foot for all to mature.




Creation does not revolve around the human spirit as it is often taught in churches. Man is only one of many creatures in existence, and not perchance more important than other creatures. The spiritual is only one of the many species in creation. Spiritual activities sends out spiritual ripples, currents or vibrations. These are the vibrations that the spirit germs should follow, vibrations to which they already have natural inclination to. Animistic beings in their activities also send off ripples, currents or vibrations, to which animistic germs naturally follow. Since the animistic stands lower than the spiritual in creation, spiritual vibrations are higher than animistic vibrations. It is unnatural for spirits to follow animistic vibrations; such a spirit germ that out of curiosity follows such vibrations initially is not evil, neither is he following an evil vibration. She/he is only following a wrong road. Here the concept of evil and wrong has to be understood. Understanding this concept will unlock many doors of knowledge to you and hand you many keys to many puzzles.

For the sake of clarity, lets examine some of such ignoble vibrations. The desire for physical intimacy, for example! Animals who were on earth before man obey this desire, which is a necessity of the physical body. Copulation goes before procreation, and this is only a natural law, which swings in purity. Even this act of copulation sends ripples or vibrations all the way to the ethereal realm because animals participating in it wear ethereal bodies as well as physical. Hence some spirit germs, even before entering the physical world already started nipping on this 'ignoble' vibration. The desire to fully enjoy this indeed sweet vibration can only draw the spirit germs closer to the earth and finally she/he wears a physical body which will soon give her/him the gift of generative power which will allow him to fully enjoy this vibration. However, even though this spirit has finally arrived on earth, it came in through the wrong road! It will only incarnate among others who are lustful or if there are no such humans on earth already, she/he will be the door through which other such lustful souls will incarnate. And naturally they will give rise to a lustful society or culture on earth. The desire for maturity or to fully set aglow the inherent pure qualities in the spirit germ should be his motive towards incarnation; in biblical words, the desire to multiply and replenish the earth. IE to multiply, strengthen, or fully set aglow her/his spiritual qualities which only the earth and physical body though its generative power can give the spirit germ should be spirit germ's motive to incarnate on earth and form the bases for his incarnation on earth. Such a spirit travels the right road, the road that the spiritual vibrations from above inclines it to. Such a spirit will incarnate in a environment or among people of homogenous spiritual nobility. If there are no such people on earth already, such a person will be the door through which other noble spirits will incarnate. And soon a nature of noble culture will arise among them. Her/his life of earth will not only mature or strengthen his spiritual qualities further, it will also bless the earth, for such only such people can make the earth a reflection or Paradise, i.e. replenish or ennoble the earth. Hence the disparity we see among nations on earth, even at the earliest beginnings of mankind on earth has a strong spiritual reason. However, it must not be thought that man must not never copulate. Quite naturally, when he wears a physical body, this desire must soon as from the physical body when it reaches maturity, i.e. generative power sets in. But with the onset of this power which enables the spirit to radiate most powerfully in the world of matter, the strong component of all that is pure and spiritual is also powerfully felt: Love! This love becomes the motivating factor in all that the individual does; even copulation. And it is this love that makes this copulation, which ordinarily is a desire of the physical, also beneficial to the spirit.

And so it is with all our gross material activities. Eating, drinking, etc. The joy we drive from these activities, are like vibrations which reaches up to the ethereal realm, remember we were ethereal bodies along with the physical body while one earth. Disembodied souls can nip on these vibrations. These vibrations were around even when the first spirit germs entered the world of matter, because animals on earth were already indulging in such activities(eating, drinking, copulating, etc) and the vibrations resulting from can be felt even in the ethereal realm. Some spirit germs even before reaching the earth for the first started nipping on this low, ignoble or wrong vibrations till they become addicts and this addiction becomes bases for their incarnation.

Lets look at another low vibration which mankind has enthroned: Aggression! This is a vibration that is purely animistic. It is one of the lowest branches off the law of motion. The animistic uses aggression to ensure motion. Hence it in the animistic, aggression swings in purity. In the ring of animistic substantiality we have beings that radiate aggression to the lower realms. Hence on earth we have animals, like lions, for example, that swing in this ray of aggression. With this they keep other animals in motion and thus healthy. Ever noticed that the animals Lions directly prey on are often the healthiest? They need to be healthy to survive; once they become unhealthy, they fall victim to the lion. However aggression is very alien to the spirit because it is not spiritual radiation. The spirit originates in a plane where everything is inherently alive and in motion, and voluntarily keeps in motion without needing any outside impetuous. It is unfortunate that today man is as aggressive as the animal; but in man aggression can never swing in purity. Whenever man is angry is always either out of fear, envy, jealousy, or selfishness. Hence men who are easily angered, who often resort to aggressive measure, such as wars and fights, are still very spiritually underdeveloped. Human society should be predominantly peaceful; anger offers the spirit nothing for its development. Aggression is not one of the inherent qualities that the spirit germs poses. But unfortunately, some spirit germs, even before they reached the earth, they already have a predisposition towards aggression. Hence when incarnated they attracted other such souls and formed a warlike nation, culture, or become a warlike people.

There are so many qualities that are animistic or belong to the lower rung of creation which mankind has unnaturally sank to. Things like submission, which lies perfectly in the animistic, which unfortunately many teach today as a spiritual quality worthy of emulation. However the idea of submission does not apply to human spirits who have free will and who should only always follow their will. Only what a man does from his free will brings him benefit; what she/he achieved by submitting to an alien will brings her/him no benefit! By learning to submit, mankind naturally made themselves slaves. Some people become willing slaves after many years of being abused coerced into submission. Think of things like Stockholm's syndrome! Submission can bring an animal benefit, because it has no free will; it doesn't carry the Spirit, the will of God within its soul like humans do; however in humans submission is a violation of the gift of free will. The human spirit carries a part of the holly will of God as its intuition or will. Hence a spirit germ, that forsakes his own will or his conscience and submits to an alien will, is as good burying that which makes it spiritual. Thus even before reaching the earth for the first time, some spirit germs have neglected their will so much that they are almost as good as not having any. Such submissive ones will accumulate and form a tribe of slaves on earth. They will easily be made slaves on earth because they will easily follow and alien will.

I can go on and on but I believe I've said enough to give the idea.

Thanks and remain blessed
grin Following a matter intuitively is no license for accepting unrealistic analogies grin
Every school has a uniform for students different from cooks and laborers. Or simply put, a way of identifying who from who. No school will permit a student spending his entire academic year in the cook’s place. Schools has disciplinary measures against recalcitrance.
That a so called gem can come into the world and turn ignoble is incongruent with your over labored example. Freewill is limited in schools.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Renewed Creation ( The New Heaven And The New Earth ) by Krismas(m): 2:57pm On Sep 04, 2022
shabachmore:
Pope Francis SAID There Is No Hell Fire Where Sinners Suffer In Eternity –

if you doupt see it yourself at https://kogistatenews.com.ng/?p=489 | Kogi State News
grin Pope Francis doesn’t speak for the entire Christendom, he only speaks for Catholics. There is no title called POPE in the Bible.
Business › Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Krismas(m): 9:02am On Sep 04, 2022
PNomsule:
I am really just curious as to "why can't we just print more money and solve the poverty problem in the country?"

Terms like "inflation" and the "devaluing of the naira" are the usual buzz answers to that question. Also, people give the example that if we were to print more money and just give everyone N5,000,000 for example, then everyone would go out and buy things, thus making "THINGS" more scarce and in short supply and hence driving up the prices of things (simple demand/supply economics). But herein lies the catch for me... With TRUE unemployment rate somewhere around 33% in the country, if DEMAND for "THINGS" rose, then I would think that companies would WANT to hire more people and build more processing plants to keep up with demand and raise their profits. So, the influx of cash (printed money) would seem to solve the unemployment problem.

Again, we have agencies that regulates pricing in the economy: PPPRA, Price Control Board (Ministry of Commerce) etc, with those, can't the likely over pricing of commodities (THINGS) be controlled and gazetted to avoid the story of "too much money chasing fewer goods"?

In the final analysis, a robust and health competitive economy would have been created and underemployment issues largely solved.

Economists and Analysts lets discuss?
grin Ordinary Agege Bread need IMPORTATION of flour to achieve grin We import everything. So, ask the govt. to print more dollars instead. The total number of naira in circulation must not exceed the total amount of dollars u have. Else u are spending more than u earning and wot more can bring u to penury?
Politics › Re: Dino Melaye: Unceremonious Removal Of Ayu Is Like Committing Abortion by Krismas(m): 7:18pm On Sep 03, 2022
Bavvacc7:
Yooo! Got you litty with Proofs attached cool
cool U be scamma
Politics › Re: Dino Melaye: Unceremonious Removal Of Ayu Is Like Committing Abortion by Krismas(m): 7:09pm On Sep 03, 2022
Asgard73:
Let’s stop deceiving ourselves.. we all know including Obi , Tinubu and all.. that 2023 is for Atiku Abubakar.

No force on earth can stop this mandate ...

But is good to try luck .. but for the insult curses and abuses .. them no still reach.

Power to the people
Sai Wazirin Adamawa ..

E to sure

North 2023
grin U yourself know ATIKUlated is synonymous to failure grin
#Olule grin
Politics › Re: PDP Peace Talks Collapse, Wike, Makinde, Ortom May Meet Tinubu Again In London by Krismas(m): 8:33am On Sep 03, 2022
Endsarspillar:
This is the only reason why I’m supporting Obi.
If Obi wins, it means a lot for us.
It means that power is no longer in the hands of these few greedy men who call themselves cabals
It means that our common good will no longer be decided by few greedy people who call themselves structures.
People who be the sought after and treated with respect during and after election because power now belongs to the people.

My fellow youths, Obi’s president is our project and our last opportunity to wrestle power from a few who think that Nigeria is their property.
We have no other country and we must not fail at this.

Remember if Atiku or Bat wins, only a few will be rewarded. You won’t be remembered neither I. Therefore this is not the time to be tribalistic or sentimental. It’s a fight between light and darkness and the common will of the people will don in God’s name, amen.
grin U are sleeping on a bicycle grin Obi himself is a life-time member of the CABAL grin One of the political Oligarchs grin
And very much has a root in the darkness grin U have been deceived grin By his angelic voice and sexy face
A man who was the botched VP to Atiku yesterday? Who today begged Kwankwaso to be his VP? Can’t u see they all same of the same?
Education › Re: 11 Year Old Autistic Boy Gets Highest Possible IQ Score, Beating Albert Einstein by Krismas(m): 5:25pm On Aug 29, 2022
Fira09:
SOURCE
grin Fantastic kid grin
Only so many people have beaten Einstein IQ record already. Its no longer an achievement
Politics › Re: PDP State Chairmen Divided Over Demand For Ayu’s Sack, Single Term For Atiku by Krismas(m): 7:05am On Aug 29, 2022
Viz007:
https://leadership.ng/pdp-crisis-state-chairmen-divided-over-demand-for-ayus-sack-single-term-for-atiku/
grin Promises made in storm are forgotten in calm grin
Ayu himself said HE WILL RESIGN SHUD A NORTHERN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE EMERGE FROM THE CONVENTION grin

And Atiku himself said HE WILL ONLY SERVE ONE TERM AS PRESIDENT IF EECTED AND THEN HANDOVER TO IBOS grin

Talk is cheap?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 4:42pm On Aug 28, 2022
Dalnadoni:
You're leading yourself astray bro...know the truth and it will set u free.
grin I tot u were going to comment on 2peter 2:4 grin
JW is a pseudo Christian organization based upon a faulty cult foundation. A manipulative translation of scriptures and shameless arm-twisting of doctrinal truths. They have no light on any doctrine of scriptures
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 4:07pm On Aug 28, 2022
sotall:
Wow!

EOD! Cant believe i am having a discussion with someone who believes the Egyptian pyramids is a greater invention than the internet , electricity or computers.
grin Ofcourse u are
Even those who made the internet computers and space craft know how much they had to copy copiously from the works of those who made the pyramids
That’s why there is the interest in digging for those things in the first place grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 4:02pm On Aug 28, 2022
Dalnadoni:
Nice chatting with you bro...you can read more on www.jw.org
grin
That Jesus went to hell
1Peter 3:18-20
18 For Christ [the Messiah Himself] died for sins once for all, the Righteous for the unrighteous (the Just for the unjust, the Innocent for the guilty), that He might bring us to God. In His human body He was put to death, but He was made alive in the spirit,

19 In which He went and preached to the spirits in prison,

20 [The souls of those] who long before in the days of Noah had been disobedient, when God's patience waited during the building of the ark in which a few [people], actually eight in number, were saved through wate

The word used for hell in this place was Tartarus. Its only Latin word to be used in the Bible. Pls get a dictionary and chk wot Italians mean wen they say Tartarus.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 3:49pm On Aug 28, 2022
Dalnadoni:
Nice chatting with you bro...you can read more on www.jw.org
grin Oh
I know all about JW. They leading u astray.
2Peter 2:4
For God did not [even] spare angels that sinned, but cast them into hell, delivering them to be kept there in pits of gloom till the judgment and their doom.
Is that place Gehenna?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 3:42pm On Aug 28, 2022
sotall:
You are a dead brain nicoompoo who uses a phone that uses technology that those that were alive during the time of Egyptian pyramids never saw coming.

You prefer to live in the times of the bible and Egyptian pyramids than todays world of space technology, computers, artificial intelligence and nuclear energy.


Those who lived backed then will be laughing at your dumb ass if they were alive today.
grin Mumu grin
Similar pyramids has been photographed on mars! Which all ur modern space travel has not gone pass the moon grin And besides every evidence to show your travel to the moon are all fabricated grin
Simply put, ancient tech am talking about is far superior to wot you have right now.
If you doubt that then ask all you super computers and professors to crack the Voynich manuscript grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 3:35pm On Aug 28, 2022
Dalnadoni:
Oh okay..did u see wat dat Jeremiah 7:31 Says? God said those people are doing wat he neva commanded them to do and that it had never even come to his heart. So God is not a wicked person to burn people as purnishment. It will neva happen.
grin Burning children to Canaanite deities like molech was not as PUNISHMENT grin
It was HUMAN SACRIFICE.
God did ask Abram to sacrifice his son? And Jesus His own son was sacrificed? Am sure such came to his mind?
In truth Hell was not made for man. It was made for satan and his angels. Its men that exercise their right of choice to end there. 2Peter 2:4. Jude 1:6
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 3:22pm On Aug 28, 2022
sotall:
While it is a good thing to study and appreciate the works and opinions of people who lived in the time past, you cannot substitute their experiences and opinions with yours that is alive at the present.

Being alive now means you can scrutinize their opinions and ideas and form yours based on todays knowledge.

Dont swallow hook line and sinker whatsoever knowledge or opinions of the past as the truth.

A living dog is better than a dead lion.

Todays knowledge or fact is better than yesterday's own.
grin So says an ignorant man grin
Up till next week no scientist knows the hell how the pyramids of Gaza were built?
No one knows who built it or for what functions! That’s after probably over 4000yrs after they were built?
And guess wot? With all our modern tech, we will not be able to build that pyramid without great stress and our efforts will fail far short of the indescribable precision of the original builders!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 3:16pm On Aug 28, 2022
Dalnadoni:
If u mean death and hell are d same thing...did u not also forget dat Jesus too died dat means he too went to hell...agree?
grin Yes Jesus went to hell
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 2:12pm On Aug 28, 2022
Dalnadoni:
Bro first pls check d meaning of Gehenna. The Greek name for the Valley of Hinnom, southwest of ancient Jerusalem. (Jer 7:31) It was prophetically spoken of as a place where dead bodies would be strewn. (Jer 7:32; 19:6) There is no evidence that animals or humans were thrown into Gehenna to be burned alive or tormented. So the place could not symbolize an invisible region where human souls are tormented eternallz in literal fire. Rather, Gehenna was used by Jesus and his disciples to symbolize the eternal punishment of second death, that is everlasting destruction, annihilation. Rev. 20:14
grin In AD 70 As general Titus bridged the wall of Jerusalem after a long siege, it’s was into these valley u talking about, that the Jewish zealots, unwillingly to surrender to the Romans, pushed all their families into, before taking a dive into the place from the walls of Jerusalem. This was the reason why Titus decided to destroy all of Jew out of Jerusalem. So, don’t be so quick to say humans weren’t thrown into the place.
In addition. U cannot say EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION means DESTRUCTION.
Everlasting destruction must mean a NON-STOP DESTRUCTION. So dat wotsoever is being destroyed is equally Everlasting Being.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 2:03pm On Aug 28, 2022
Dalnadoni:
Bro which version of the bible are you using?
grin KJV pro
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 1:59pm On Aug 28, 2022
sotall:
Wake up from religious enslavement and brainwashing.

You would rather stick with the stories and personal opinions of those who wrote the bible than seek and research the truth while you are still alive?


Being alive gives you the opportunity to research and find truths yourself. Be a human being God created you to be and use your brain.

Let your brain do some critical thinking and give you the truth.
grin World over ancient relics are sought after as sources of illumination. That’s why sarcophagus containing Pharaohs from thousands of yrs ago are hailed as significant finds. That’s why people pore thru Maya writings and Babylonian cones etc. But u see, the combined age of the Bible is far older than the rare artifacts archeologists are currently celebrating. The Bible is an ancient technology.
Now if you know a better truth. Why don’t u discuss it with me here?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 1:26pm On Aug 28, 2022
Dalnadoni:
Bro thanks 4 d research it means u are well vast in d scriptures.. But let me let u know dat wem d bible talks about fire it means total distruction. Pls check wat is in Rev. 20;13-15
Matt 25:41
grin Matt 24:41 grin
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

If the fire is EVERLASTING FIRE, then the object to be burnt must be EVERLASTING OBJECT

Rev 20:13-15

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Death and hell is same as DEATH HELL
Dats dead people in hades. Death and hell is a PLACE
NOW where in these verses of yours is utter destruction taught?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 1:12pm On Aug 28, 2022
Dalnadoni:
Also note dat hellfire is neva written together any where in d bible...you can either find fire or hades
grin Mark 9:47 grin
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire
Note also
Hades is Greek word. So, better check Greek lexicon to be sure they never referred to grave wen they say Hades
In addition
Once in revelation, Tartarus was translated as hell
Tartarus is Latin. Chk the Latin dictionary and be shocked wot those borrowed words meant to the owners of the languages
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 12:41pm On Aug 28, 2022
sotall:
Disprove it.
grin The Bible is clear about a place called hellfire.
U know more than the Bible?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 12:39pm On Aug 28, 2022
Dalnadoni:
Bro it not a lie thats just d simple truth believe it or not
grin The Holy scripture is abundantly clear that there is hellfire or are u wiser than the scriptures?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 12:36pm On Aug 28, 2022
Dalnadoni:
Bro abeg point one place for bible where hell fire is clearly written.
grin Mark 9:43-48 grin
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 12:06pm On Aug 28, 2022
Dalnadoni:
Where u see hell fire for bible? MUMU MAN
grin All those hell fire for Bible nko?
Na decoration?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 12:02pm On Aug 28, 2022
Lasgidi90:
How would you feel if all the other religions go about evangelism the way you Christians do?
grin They are just not confident of wot they believe. How then can they?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 11:56am On Aug 28, 2022
denny97797:
Thanks for your concern. But could you stop trying to force it down our throats always with all your archaic threats. We all have our religions you know. What makes yours better than mine?Thanks for your concern. But could you stop trying to force it down our throats always with all your archaic threats. We all have our religions you know. What makes yours better than mine?...
grin Once more, which is ur religion? Why are u afraid to share it?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 11:54am On Aug 28, 2022
sotall:
False

When somebody dies, their bodies become food for microorganisms.

There is no other body that burns in any hell fire.


The wages of sin is death. When a person dies, they stop existing. They dont feel any pain nor have memories.
grin Where did u learn this horrible lie?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 11:51am On Aug 28, 2022
itslinkin4005:
There is nothing like hellfire. Stop deceiving people..
grin Wot gives u such assurances?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Only Place A Repentance Prayer Would Never Be Heard By God by Krismas(m): 11:45am On Aug 28, 2022
Lasgidi90:
Thanks for your concern. But could you stop trying to force it down our throats always with all your archaic threats. We all have our religions you know. What makes yours better than mine?
grin Which is ur religion? Let’s hear it
Politics › Re: Popular Obi Promoter Who Claims To Be A Woman On Twitter Actually A Man-segalink by Krismas(m): 9:12pm On Aug 27, 2022
KikBuhari2Daura:
NEFERTITI @firstladyship Is A Man!

According to Sega Link, a popular Peter Obi promoter who claims to be a light skinned woman is actually a man hiding under the cloak of a woman to gain followership on twitter and insult people.

He tweeted:



Source: https://twitter.com/segalink/status/1563591070797029376?s=21&t=cEd1Njac_KAAEmTD4O1PXA

They "Lady" or Guy in question is yet to respond to the allegations, but the LP presidential candidate and his followers have previously made many false claims most of which have earned them so many unprintable nicknames
grin sHE even calls HErself NEFERTITI grin
The Egyptian queen goddess grin
Every thing around Obi na scam grin
I
#Obi-OLULE grin
Celebrities › Re: Artistes Whose Careers Flourished With Olamide’s Support by Krismas(m): 2:52pm On Aug 27, 2022
Aderewah:
Lol. You can’t point any Osu artiste helping other Osu artistes. Them psqaure and the rest. Children of hate and selfishness
grin Cynthia Morgan

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