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lawalidowu:
@ Krrush
allow me.
na me kno as NSE dey sweet me.

Ride-on,ride-on my guy

lawalidowu:
NYSC finish today.
thank God.

@fatherof2
baba mi. You GAT MUF.
As i dey so, na hotel i dey. i make small bar on the tips you gave.
then i thought to myself; what can i do?
as today na valentine, i carry my baby after POP, give am d sweetest treat and we come dey[b] retreat[/b] now.

NSE.
na NSE money i take do vals. na im i go take marry, and na im i go take go every.

as my initials come be AIAO, WHAT AM I[b] IN AND OUTING[/b]?

NA ASCEND IN ASCEND OUT BE MY OWN THEORY
(ASCEND = - DESCEND, so d real theory na descend in with small bar and ascend out with major bar)

FATHEROF2, You GAT MUF. JUST LIKE A KETTLE

MORE QUESTIONS ON D WAY

Cheeeeiiii ! ! !                

Abeg,sorry, No yan again,abeg.  Shoooo!!  I no sure say na NSE you dey yan so ooo,or whether the valentine on-going retreat na him dey your mind. .




                                                                                                           

lawalidowu:
some get mouth and SOME GAT MUF

I GET FEELING SAY THIS OUR THREAD GO BLOW ONE DAY. AS IN BLOW

Na to get correct liver yan de full yan remain,abi .

You sef parambulate small.Yan full yan na .

@All

Felt cool when I sold my First bank that I bought 3 weeks ago at N41+,for N54 on 13/2/08!!30kg weight.
And it was thanks to 2 gurus who sounded-off similar opinion of a halt in its rise this week-FathOf 2,followed by Wanajo.

Interestingly,the order was sold same day it was placed,early mo-mo. . . .Kudus to ZSL.They sure know how to snap up a sell order,same day of order,I've noticed.

@Napoleon sure is a welcome grandmaster Taliban guru.May he never meet his historical alter ego,Lord Nelson Nndidi,at WW[b]Waterloo[/b]@NSE.com
Amen.

Hey,I'm the conspiracy theorist,remember?
Obviously,FathO2 was refering to @Napoleon having a double on this thread and it is obvious who he believes is that other personality      

Of course my lips are sealed .No be me go invoke the war-mongering spirit of Napoleon(i.e. of historical fame),Alexander(The Great),Adolf Hitler etc,come begin Nairalandworld War One for this thread (God forbid.That 3-some are considered by many to have been the Anti-christ  )

Peace.      .

aktopgun:
Besides, one of the first things i learnt in investing is "never fall in love with a system, stock, company or method", its not necessary and irrelevant.

Long term players have all sort of weapons in their arsenal (there goes that useless team's name again) besides Value, PE, EPS, etc, we also have high and low altitude bombers( aka jets, fighter helocopters), mine detectors , armoured personel carriers etc        

They assume the persona of John J Rambo          .

Talk about strategy. . . . .Rodham Clinton replaces campaigne manager .

New one is a black woman .

invisible!:
@ krrush please don't name names ooo! I don't want you attacked.

What name a com name na. . . ?

@All

A beg no vex. . . . . Na siddon look syndrome dey do me.My cash balance don dey overbought.

Make I go baff,come go Clinic _{. . . .Yea,I'm a doc. . . I look after sick,unfortunate peeps.}.

@invisible

Even sef,you dey follow grow in strategy as you come dey sing-song guru recommendation for early momo after you don load finish .

Naijadr:
Roughcut, COSTAIN go reach N37 today, any hopes of reaching N45 before end of the week, make we dey watch

                                                          
Chei!. . . .To ride Bull dey sweet peeps dem belle for beginin of Bull-week.

No wonder Billionaire full Texas as dem too dey enjoy bull-riding,rodeo style  .

Yup,@Flakky is definitely sounding female.

And,she's sounding alright . . . . .

Hi,I'm Krrush. . . .and you are. . er. . . Folake perhaps? . . . .

Your transition from silent to a vocal reader was quite. .er. .vocal .

Welcome then.

@Yodi yokun.

You are a Matron of sorts and highly respected on this forum;I'm sure I speak for all.

Please accept @Flakky's appologies,so we can put all behind.

BTW,I wonder why peeps never considered @Flakky might be a female.

She sure dey over-fire like one. . . Woman scorned an' all that sort o' thing   .

Peace yo'all.

@Samstone

"Predominantly" was meant in a relative sense as compared to heavily white-populated states.

And yeah,I know it isn't D.C.That's on Tuesday,and if like you say it's by half black-populated,well,good for Obama then.

Your gist 'bout the differences between primaries and caucus elections is revealing. . . . .

But he(Obama) got majority of the 160 plus delegate votes at stake,didn't he. . . .

Fingers crossed. Obama rocks!.

Obama wins in Washington and Nebraska!. . . . And the state of Louisiana as well. . . . . . All predominantly black-populated states,though.

                 

My NSE potfolioaccount balance is reading "overbought"  . _{. . . . .Waiting game again,a.k.a. siddon look. . . . . Boring}

. . . . . . Then of course there was my "no false starts" a.k.a."no jumping the gun" THEORY

I'm talking First bank,UBA and Zenith.

It's as if institutional peeps wouldn't buy one at a relatively higher price than the other.Makes sense,really if you think about it:

Why by a UBA and keep buying when the price is pushed-up(pushed-up,for the very reason of the institutional bid),when you might do better to buy a lower-priced Zenith at TSed price or immediately after TS lift-off. . . or when you can position for a big-time First bank buy when still low.Still low for the reason of caution to buy a stock yet un-proven by the then yet unreleased Q3(Deep pockets who spend heavy,are always careful to wait on proof of performance.Now First bank's Q3 is released.Proven itself.Deep pockets now happy to off-load big-time).Off-load cash,that is.

And so UBA wouldn't rise for sake of better price-deal seen in its mates. . . . .till the other two(Zenith,First bank) catch-up.


Hence,my three horse-race with no false starts,analogy. . . .

Just my _conspiracy theory      .

@ALL

RE:FIRST BANK'S PROJECTILE MOTION FORWARD.

My theory as to why First bank would quickly move up in price despite expected onslaught from profit-taking activities of PO participants now armed with their certificates,is a simple one:   . . . .There would be no onslaught of profit-taking.And so,no resultant drop in price.

No onslaught of profit-taking,for explainable reasons as follows:



That,by far the larger proportion of stocks bought at the PO belong to mainly two categories namely,

1)Deep-pocketed institutionals.

2)The Toms,the Dicks _{sorry,no pun intended} and the Harrys of many Nigerian House-holds.

And that,both categories in general,are not likely to rush-off and sell since on the one hand(Deep-pocketed institutions) these are largely medium to long-term believers(e.g.Foreing investors_{-long-term belief in the company,is why they participate most times}). . .and on the other hand(Toms,Dicks and Harrys) these don't usually know exactly what to do when they receive the certs,anyway    .

Note that I didn't say foreign investors constitute the majority of Deep-pocket institutional investors.They are infact much fewer amongst the deep-pockets,thanks to the NSE directive.I only emphasised the likely attitude of deep-pocket institutions by mentioning these foreing contributors.


My take prayer,anyways.

Lord,answereth      .

Again,a good illustratioin in the way Trends are applied in trading was pointed out in predicting the Q4 earnings of GTB on previous pages on this thread.

If you recall,peeps were worried that GTB was looking like it wouldn't be able to meet its Full year PAT expectations based on its slow progress seen at Q3 result.

I think it was @WanajO who allayed fears by pointing out a predictable trend:GTB,from past 3 or 4 financial years(Wanajo has the retro charts),usually makes 50% of their full-year PAT at Q4 alone !

Interestingly though,it looks like this certainly would not be the case for GTB this Financial year.

I heard from a manager that they(GTB) lost several Billions due to the GDR thing,and it could have been more had it been they hadn't quickly sold when the Pound started depreciating to our Naira. . . . .

Sniper or Gunfighter,you've got to mix 'em. . . . nothin' full-proof in Stocks. . . . . .Use Technicals AND Fundamentals.

Behave like John J. Rambo                  .

invisible!:
@iconbull, please explain to me how to trade trends?

@Invisible

If I may.

Trends simply refers to the likely direction the price of a stock would go,based on attempt to predict its behaviour.

It is TECHNICALISTS' stuff.

And,the behaviour predictability is based on technicalist things like looking at previuos years' price movement at so and so time of the Financial year,which should likely repeat itself.For example,an obvious trend would be price surge near time of Quarter results.

And so,they use retrospective charts to look into the achives of a stock's price behaviour based on certain recurring factors found during the Financial year.

Other trends are that some companies almost always give bonus;expectation of usual good dividend announcement at usually the same time as previous year e.t.c

Hope I didn't bungle it.

Geees:
Good Pumping!!
Thanks for that if you notice I put question marks. UBA is ripe for a rise just like FBN and one can gain some CICO returns however it is fundamentally strong,
Agree with u sha

@Gees,you aren't making much sense.In one breath you seem to agree with @Pumping that UBA ain't likely good for CICO and yet with another,you say here that one can gain by UBA CICO . . . .

Geees:
1. Overall good
2. Individuals will have less number of shares in the company _obviously
3. This I think is to meet the market psychology _{cheaper shares} abi share prices in a certain range will make more returns.
4. However with the bullish trend Oceanic price will still be facing Bornu,

My suggestions

The emboldened statement is incorrect.

The effect of a share-reconstruction on the price of Oceanic,would be such that it becomes more expensive and not cheaper.

SavvyLanre:
@ Krussh
I no work for ZSL o,  i just dey use their services.

Yeah,now I recall.

Its just that now that they seem to have gotten their software going,they have left us with no option to indicate an order expirey date.

The C.O.O. wasn't even aware of this fact not until I pointed it out to him!


@All

One Heavy tin weyn fall yesterday,resurrect quick quick today  .
Na d recoil wey dey occur when heavy measile won carry fast projectile speed forward,abi Engineer-ing    .

Meanwhile,me a don load-up for d tripple-barrel blast of Firstbank,UBA and Zenith for a mid-term play.

Doing a little bit of "Oceanic re-loaded" as well;waiting on ZSL.

@Savvy

please,do you work in ZSL?

Thanks.

@ALL of us one way or another,are GUN TOTTERS.

Big guns,small guns,it don't matter.

Remember our 2 major categories? In truth,most gurus to a relative degree,adopt either category's strategy when it suits them.

CATEGORY 1:   FUNDAMENTALISTS or "TALIBANS"(of the Afghanistan resistance,Terrorist war fame)
                       
                                - These guys are stoic,resolute in their fundamental beliefs and act/plan
                                   accordingly with patient tactfulness.
                                - Because they fire only after careful mastery of their precise tool,and often from a far,foresighted,
                                  unsuspecting range,I propose yet another name for this category:

                                   [size=13pt]Long-range SNIPERS[/size]



CATEGORY 2:   TECHNICALISTS or "SUICIDE BOMBERS"(a la Kamakazi Japanese fighter-jets fame) or of late CICO or RORO

                                - These guys act on technical correctness e.g. ". .its a good BUY because they've[b] always[/b] given past bonus".
                                - Because these guys show a reckless bravery with gut impulse when they strike their victims,often with practiced
                                   accurracy like gun-fighters in the wild,wild west,shooting from the hips. . . . I give you:
                                 
                                 [size=13pt] Hip-shooting FAST DRAW GUNFIGHTERS[/size]
                                 


                                                                                               

                                           
                                 
@Frankiriri

I never met your younger bro. Never met those who cruelly gunned him down.

I met you though,once,at Zenith Heights. . . .After signing-up to your Investment club.

From our lively discussion,you once more showed you are more of a Taliban.A SNIPER in this Stocks business.

Taliban or Bomber,Sniper or Gunfighter. . . . .

Lets[b] ALL[/b] keep shooting till we hit only those true values and purposes in life.Amen.

@Frankirir

Sad thing,your loss.My sincere condolences.

And,we dearly miss your incisive contributions on this thread.

For peeps/newbees who might not know,@Frankiriri IS the undisputed,pioneer guru on this thread(go and read pages 1 to 40).
His forthright,explanatory style truely set the tone for the brotherliness of our thread,which then caught-on like wild fire. . . .

Take courage

Salute.

@NBA

Na vex a take BANNER d symbol of our collective wealth.

E stand,gidigba.No yeye government fit shake we pockets,jare.

                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                           
                 
 
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                 

                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                         



                                                                                      Naija.            Naira.          No shakin !

                                                                                                               

Surprises:
Dem wan start againoooooooo


b]Fresh plot against bank consolidation[/b][font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]By Our Reporter - 27.01.2008

Unease has gripped the financial sector following credible hints that the Yar’Adua government is considering the reversal of banking consolidation. The consolidation exercise, which was engineered and supervised by the Dr. Charles Soludo-led Central Bank of Nigeria, was successfully concluded on December 31, 2005.


But in a move that is geared towards reversing the gains of this exercise, highly placed sources close to a presidential working group, disclosed to Sunday Tribune that the group has almost concluded work on a proposal to be presented to President Umaru Yar’Adua on “Banking Reforms”. This working group is charged with working on the details of the seven-point agenda of the Yar’Adua administration.


The chief economic adviser to the president, Tanimu Yakubu Kurfi, Sunday Tribune learnt, is coordinating the process. Although, our source revealed that Kurfi was sick recently and had to be flown abroad but could not confirm if he was back in the country.


The case against consolidation, our sources revealed, is based on the view that “Northerners” lost out in the consolidation process, which was believed to have “placed the banking sector more in the hands of the Southerners”. This ethno-regional view of things, sources stated, is largely responsible for the move, even though it is being clothed in the “language of economics, fiscal policy and even development”. The working group is said to have considered the statistics indicating that consolidation shrank northern ownership of the banking sector to only eight per cent. Members of the inner circle of the Yar’Adua government who consider this “totally unacceptable” have resolved that the best way to reverse this without risking a backlash from the south with the resultant political crisis is to effect regionalisation of the banking sector which would enhance greater northern ownership.


Although a few voices in the group were said to have warned that the reversal may create un imaginable crisis in the economy and destroy growing confidence in the Nigerian economy, particularly the Stock market, the hawks in the group were said to have dismissed the predicted crisis on the basis of the fact that access by Northerners to the commanding heights of the economy through the banks, including bank directorship and its associated pecks, have been lost through consolidation and would have to be regained “anyhow”.


The deconsolidation that is being proposed as a policy response to the perceived “southern domination” of the banking sector include effectively limiting banks to strict zones of operation, that is regions. Despite the boom in the number of branches which has resulted from consolidation, deconsolidation will be advertised as the best method for achieving the aim of multiplying the number of banks in the country, and filling the landscape with supposedly smaller but nimbler banks.


The working group will also recommend that should the government consider regionalisation unattractive, it might be desirable for the public sector to acquire distressed banks such as Societe General Bank and Savanna Bank which would then be recapitalised and unleashed to compete in an altered financial landscape. Such acquired banks can then be used as instruments of reversing the “loss” of the “northern” region in the last consolidation, reasoned the members of the group.


Sunday Tribune gathered from informed actors in the financial market that this plan to insert government as an owner and operator of banks reflects the statist inclinations of the leading lights of the Yar’Adua administration. It is argued by the core of this group that a government whose hands have been removed from the commanding heights of the economy would have less “largess in the area of economic activities that it can distribute to its own supporters”.


Sunday Tribune learnt that bank chiefs, who already have hints of this proposal, are worried by the severe disruption that deconsolidation and regionalisation would cause and the ethno-regional undertones that are believed to be behind this. It is feared that it would endanger the health of the banking sector as the banking regulators would be overstretched. A financial expert added that there is nothing in the new plan that can guarantee the safety of so many small banks

YEEEEEE! Yeee! Yeeeee!!! Dem wan start againnnooo! true true!
But e no fit shele,no shakings!

You see what I keep saying. . .? See what our government economists must 'av been busy with since coming to power !!

Instead of fine-tuning our economy in unison,in its genuine search for ways to translate consolidation gains at the macro level,to the micro.Make poor man pikin see chop bellefull. . . .Instead,see what they must have been doing all the while .Concorcting a selfish recipe to anhiliation .

Abeg make these reporters no dey fear to dig-out snippetted documents to publish;make we dey narrow-down on some names;abi?

WASKY-WAJA:
Good morning gurus!

Morning.

No,I aint no stocks guru yet.

But you!
Or should I say you and your friend .

I've decided that you are indeed a Phantom-of-the-Opera of sorts.

A stage-managing,guru-in-disguise,hood-winking us.Have myself a conspiracy theory here  .

Think I know who,too    .

Some posters on this our dear thread might even have double IDs  .

But y'all have thought of that;lots o'smarty pants in 'ere.  .

All good then. I guess.


                     

Silently reading . . . . .



                                                           

easimoni:
su amigo tiene hígado grande or is it "cojones grande" What collateral is he offering the bank?

Anyway, tell him to stay away from Ins coys, half of them will be on TS sometime this year; disaster for a short-termer. If I knew of any stocks that must make 100% in 6 months, I'll be the one taking the loan and not your friend   Tell him to buy UBA and Oceanic. I'm pretty sure they'll beat the 21% interest he is being charged. However, 40-50% is the best (realistically) he should hope for. I hope he is not prone to high BP O! This is not a small bet.

I think the 40million dollar-livered guy should be a little weary of Oceanic for reason of possible share-reconstruction blues.

UBA too,for reason of the extraordinarilly approved 3Billion new shares,which very unlikely though,could be for what?PO?Who knows. . . . .Never minding what "cowboy",so-called,Elumelu says. . . . .

Afterall we are talking 40 Mill here.

FatherOF2:
Hmmmm, i can see the new unit of measure now is Kg (weight).

So how many units = 1kg.

Ah ah,Engineer, Na S.I.units we dey na . . . ."Kilo" na 1000.

70kg must to be 70,000 units. . .

No be una dey dey inside plane com dey make man pikin dey think luggage in kg weight. . ?