ForestHill:
People I showed love always ends up leaving me; the last one happened when my childhood school friend left me last year without any reason. What's happening around me?

Olu317:
nothing.When people interact online, does not mean, one need not be over careful when typing messages. What is important is the content and not the typo error or whatever it may look like.

1Sharon:


How can olorun mean the owner of heaven?

Yoruba religion doesn't believe in heaven, that's a Christian concept.


I need somebody that won't use a Christian viewpoint to interprete yoruba.
O-run literally means origin, its not heaven.

Olu317:
From what angle are you translating these words from ? In proper Yoruba traditional setting, your postulation are wrong.

Kindly get knowledge from Ifá priests to put you through.

Ẹlà (re|do) is a name of Orunmílà (re|re|mi|do)

Orunmílà (re|re|mi|do) is a nickname; description of the preaching of Ẹlà (re|do) to identify him with who may be saved on earth.

Another Ẹlà (re|do) is the son of Oyigi. This Ẹlà (re|do) was an apprentice of Ẹlà (Orúnmílà). He walked the face of the earth and did wonders as the primordial Ẹlà did.


Another Ẹlà is the son of Mòremi (do|re|re). This Ẹlà was given up by his mother, who had vowed to sacrifice his only child if she was able to get the secret behind the marauders disturbing Ilé-Ifẹ (re|mi|re|re).

Ẹlà as light is another variation of its meaning.
Elà means illusion (Ha!!) and called light also. Ela has homonymous in nature as one can see in other Yoruba words or names.

Jewesu is false odu. Jewesu is not Jesus. Kindly do not follow people who are hell bent in creating identity for Jesus in ifaodu. I am very familiar with ancient Hebrew language. If it is about anything that has to do Hebrew's Ẹlà, then I can take up the issue.

Emaprince:
what did it take him to get the court order bro?
I mistakenly sent 100k to a wrong account yesterday. I called my banks (firstbank) customer care number and they told me to call back next week Friday. I'm wondering what they will be doing for a whole week. And me calling back is to get a feedback...not even to get the money back.

I have lost a few money this way...but this time around, I feel I have to go for my money and not let these criminally minded and opportunistic Nigerians eat my money again.

I have returned a 50k wrongly sent to me sometime this year, why can't people be like that too?

3310adeb:

Compliment Of The Season To All Nairalanders.

Olu317:
You do not need to be satisfied on it because it is what the praise stands for whichwas and is part of panegyric of Ooni and descendants once they become king,which the praise is originally from Iléifẹ. Although Ọlọ́yọ́ Atiba descendants popularised it.

This is the same way Ọlọ́yọ́ Atiba descendants change the title of Olú Ọyọ́ contracted of Ọlọ́yọ́ to Aláafin in 1837/1838/1839 and popularise the praise name.

Olu317:
Ikúmíywá is different from ikúmúyi. If you are making reference the former,'ikúmúyíwá still means positivism in the sense of reincarnation.

Like I had mentioned earlier, ikú is nothing but a passage from earthly realm to the heavenly realm of ancestors. Literary translation ikú-death- múyíwá-brings -iwá-aback the loved one/this one

This is affirm in odus in ifá which emphasise death as a passage. Thus reincarnation exist for purpose one who died need come back to perform on his return. So, ikúmúyí is not same as ikúmúyíwá.

Olu317:
the dialect factored in. Ikú mọ́ uyi is same as iyi

If you speak lagos dialect , Ibadan's, stint of ọyọ́'s then ,certain lettering may seem strange to you.The Lagos Yoruba is an offshoot of all dialects though and became compressed for all users.

Apart from this, contraction is also factoring in Yoruba language, reason being that name given are always descriptive to all things. Only few exception which falls within loaned words.

Olu317:
No! Both .Yoruba group are multiRacial,religious and pride to be part of the pioneer of people who begun humanity.

Olu317:
Death Father Mother
The glorification is to assert mighty power of a king who does as he wishes freely. This saying is about Absolute authority bestowed upon a king who is able to do and undo as he pleases.

Olu317:
I do not share in your Nigeria's entity's projection. I make reference to Yoruba entity as you haven't read my view. Adire, Kampala, Ankara etc are narrowed down to Yoruba schools within her confine.

1Sharon:


We don't have to make poor decisions in the name of saluting our identity.

Ankara just wouldn't work.

Have you seen any school in the world that wears their cultural atire as uniform?

Olu317:
Lol! Say who ? I guess, you are looking at kind of khaki clothing for pupils or students ? Innovation. Adire or Ankara have patterns that can be used for uniform. It simply means, celebration of Yoruba fabric identity.

Although, you're entitled to your personal view. So, you can disagree. This said clothing material is Yoruba's and making uniform out of it is to carve identity for Yoruba pupils or students

Olu317:
Okay.Plainly, any name with ikú is abikú's identity. Itis a fact that Yoruba tradition profess positivism in all challenges, inclusive ikú which is negatism.

Herein, every name given that either is having ikú (prefix or suffix) is absolutely rejection of death in such family.

Kindly know also, there is no shrine for ikú to be worshipped or venerated in ifá. Infact immortality was for humanity in totality but when the laws were broken, then death begun to kill humanity.

This is why, death is seen as a mean of ascending to the abode of the ancestors for reincanation to be once there is a reason for such person or individual who died without fulfilment of his purose on earth, must return back to do such. Hence, Bátundé/Bábátundé came to existence.

1Sharon:


Cheers. But why is the 'ola' term for wealth more ubiquitous?

It turns out ola doesn't even mean wealth.
'Oro' means wealth.

So how did alot of yorubas get it wrong?

Olu317:
All the creteria associated with citizenship is same with Yoruba people from time immemorial. There is no room for general descrimination in Yoruba structure.

Yoruba Religion is all about self belief and fellowship in it. Although, in ifa, it is clearly stated that all mankind should follow Yoruba traditional system and must be initiated.

But as it is, not all mankind follow Yoruba tradition or are initiated though, ifaodu says, there is nowhere Orúnmìlà , who is also called Ẹlà at times because the former is a nickname of his. Orúnmìlà overshadowed his real name which is Ẹlà.

Meanwhile, there is another Ẹlà who is known as Ọmọ oyigi oyigi ọtá omi.

Olu317:
Kumuyi(ikú mọ́ iyì-death knows this very one),màlọ́mọ́,ikúdẹ̀hindé etc

yana24:
Please, what is the meaning of ADENIJI

Cooleasy:


Please can you explain to me what you meant by 'verily, lands in the regions of the Congo shall rise again'?
Does it have to do with the position that the Yoruba language is part of the Benue-Congo broad group of languages?

NoToPile:


Reason why there are lots of Oku names in Ijebu. Okusanya, okunuga, okunnowo.

I always wondered if it the Oku in those names means corpse, it just didn't tally with the rest of the name.

I know iga- is palace always wondered if okunuga was corpse in the palace.

If it means God of wealth (I suspect 'Wealth has here it's palace' ~ Okù ni ìgà) I. E Aje it still makes sense.

I am Ijebu.

Olu317:
Adé ku sí bẹ́ means, the crown still has portion within same location or the crown remains in its stead

charly20:


A modified chart of EJ. The highlighted portion on M15 is our area of focus. The highlighted circle on D1 is likely for risky entries when the right D1 candle forms.

Cheers.
Dear kumulus, sir, How have you been?

duro4chang:
Adekusibe means more princes are still coming into the family. Aderibigbe means there is enough place/ mansion for princed. Moniade means I now have a prince or heir.

absoluteSuccess:


You are correct and accurate. But there must be a choice at the end or else we won't get to the root of the meaning we seek. We must make a choice.

It's the sense of the word that determine the particular aja that the Yoruba have in mind, hence the interpretation given must have collocation as guide.

That's a step forward. Now observe the way collocation affect the new entry to the table: ajari: aja, fighter, Ori: head. I've not heard that name before.

The collocation (head and fight, fighter) implies that the fighter is the current head in that business. Like the head of fighters.

Now that is the remote validation inaccessible to the interpreter, and the validation of a claim is not the claim itself but consistency of what is claimed with remote check.

Why is aja not whirlwind?

In ajagbe, it's the whirlwind trip. In this case, the name tallied with Yoruba believe system that a man can be taken away by whirlwind and when he comes back, he becomes an Aroni.

But scientifically speaking, the Yoruba are a forest dwelling people, such whirlwind or tornado is not part of the possibilities here.

Then the Yoruba were speaking of a desert home, not here. In that case, they were thinking from a record. You can check through records in whirlwind prone desert culture to validate their claim.

Ajala

It won't make sense if we seek direct meaning of Ajala and insist on fighting as the interpretation of Aja, as found in Ajayi or Ajagbe. The Aja in Ajala is another version of its own.

The reason for this is that every Yoruba concrete noun takes a transitive verb of its own. Ajayi, ijayi; Ajani, Ijani; Idowu, Adowu etc. Ajala, Ijala.

Ijala is the hunters canticle. Ijala, orin ode. Borrowing from my research, Ijala is originally from the hymn book of the hunters. So it's a kind of book.

Ijala is like saying the heading of a line, the first word on a papyrus, the acrophony. I ja la, "the first glyph". It's like the song we sing when we were young, "ja tuntun ja tuntun".

Ajala is by this implication, one who started a new page in the history of his family. May we be an ajala even in our generation, amen.

NB, you can never attempt Yoruba language from the realms of least resistance, it's deep but enjoyable as it leads you through the mase and help you come out wiser.

If I, being Egun can be this fervent about it, I wonder what a Yoruba man can do.

ecolime:
All I see here is a demented old man. He is old and would be dead in few years while his useless ideas go down 6 feet with him.

Now let's move on.

Opintiwa:



The dead girl called Bola A Tinubu yes she was .

So Amoda stole her identify she was a black American (us citizen) from Lagos state

Opintiwa:
In response to the subpoena, Chicago State University reproduced and sent in the exact degree certificate that was awarded to him her in 1979. That certificate can be seen below. Evidently, both certificates are completely different.