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resurgent2019:
I don’t even know what to do about their issue.

But I am sure they will be at the lower wrung of Nigeria’s politics for a long time.

They are not serious about the Biafra issue(very painful because I want them gone). I would never vote nor support them to lead other Nigerians. They are not a serious people.

It’s better we endure Hausa brutality. Hausas are more serious, regrettably.

Go and look for a job for a start and stop constituting a nuisance.

Someone that has no control over his emotions, who can be swayed and incensed by other person's opinion can't be regarded as being responsible

Buterflyle0:
Before I proceed, I am a south westerner and a nationalist. I believe in project Nigeria.

One question i am still searching an answer to with all GEJ appointments of southerners in the past, what infrastructural development and employment opportunities did it bring to the igbos?

HERE IS THE LIST...

Lest we forget:

Sec to the Fed Govt:Anyim Pius Anyim,
DG of DSS Ita Ekpeyong,
Minister of Pet Deizani Alison Madueke,
Minister of Fin Ngozi Okonjo Iweala,
CBN gov Sanusi Lamido (removed in controversial circumstnces & replaced with Godwin Emefiele)
Chief of Staff Mike Oghiadomhe,
Acct Gen of the Fed Jonah Otunia,
Chief of Army staff. Azubuike Ihejirika (replaced by Kenneth Minima),

1.NIMET Dr. Anthony Anuforom,
2. NNPC Eng. Andrew Yakubu,
3. NIMASA Patrick Apobolokemi,
4. PENCOM Mrs. Chinelo Anohu Amazu,
5. FERMA Engr. Chukwu Amuchi,
6. DPR Mr. George Osahon,
7. Bank Of Industry Ms. Evelyn Oputu,
8. Nigerian Content Dev. Agency Ernest Nwapa,
9. Consumer Protection Agency, Mrs Dupe Atoki,
10.NCC Engr. Eugene Juwa,
11. NAMA Engr. Nnamdi Udoh,
12. NCAA Engr. Akikuotu,
13. FAAN George Uriesi,
14. NCAT Capt. Chinere Kalu,
15. SEC Aruma Otteh
16. Sovereign Wealth Fund Uche Orji,
17. NAFDAC Dr Paul Orhil,
18. FIIRO Dr. Mrs. G. N Elemo,
19. Maritime Academy Of Nig Oron Joshua Okpo,
20. Railway Corporation Eng. Seyi Sijuwade,
21. Nigerian Tourism Dev. Corporation Mrs. Sally Mbanefoh,
22. Budget Office Of The Fed Dr Bright Okogwu,
23. NERDC Prof Godswill Obioma,
24. NEXIM Mr R. R Orya,
25. Standrd Organization Of Nigeria Dr Joseph Odumodu,
26. Nigeria Broadcasting Corporation Emeka Nkem Mba,
27. Industrial Training Fund Prof. Longmas Wapmuk,
28. National University Commission Prof. Okojie,
29. NESREA Mrs. N.S Benebo,
30.MDG Office Dr. Precious Gbenio,
31. Surveyor Gen Of The Fed Peter Chigozie,
32. Statistician Gen Of The Fed Dr. Yemi Kale,
33. Accntant Gen Of The Federation Mr. Jonah Otunla,
34. Auditor Gen Of The Fed Samuel Yonongo Ukura,
35. Nat'l Orientation Agency Mike Omieri,
36.News Agency Of Nig Oluremi Oyo-replaced by Ima Niboro from South South,
37. NEPC E/S David I Adelugba,
38. NEPZA Mr. Olugbenga Kuye
39. BPP Engr Emeka Ezeh,
40. Niger Delta Ministry Orubebe, etc.

Check the list of the people raising this ethnic issues ,you will notice that they are people that are no longer getting milk from the center. NNAI NWODO, EDWIN CLARK, ADEBANJO these are men that wasted their chances in developing Nigeria when they were in Government.

What has SSS director got to do with starting and completion of 2nd River Niger Bridge, Completion of Lagos - Ibadan Expressway, East West road or upgrading of Enugu airport?

To hell with the post of DSS, POLICE OR CHIEF OF WHATEVER STAFF..
I will be mad with Buhari if i hear say e don abandon developing Nigeria as a whole...
That, would be my cry if it happened and not about whoever it was he appointed.

We talk about his being appointed but not about how qualified he is for the position.

This nonsense has been rebutted over and over by intelligence Nauralanders including Tonyebarcanista.

Go through past post to ascertain the regional balance in Jonathan's appointment.


Security
Chief of Defence Staff, Air Marshal Alex Badeh, Chief of Army Staff Lt Gen Kennet Mimimah, Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Usman Jibrin, Chief of Air Staff, Air Masrshal Adeshola Amosu, and the Chief of Defence Intelligent Real Admiral GE Okoi

Afam4eva:
If you had an ounce of sense, you'll realize that this is neither about Buhari or Jonathan and their appointments but about southern unity.

You should have ignored him.

He hawks and peddles Buhari's matter for head like gala.

Saraki or any other person is far better than the bigot we have now as President.

Buhari can't even address the Nation, not even when tens of Soldiers are killed. A government that never commensurate with her people in time of adversity, be it flood, fire disaster, murder, ethnic clashes etc.

Buhari got nothing more to offer now or in the future.

The worst is that Buhari can't even manage best brains. See how his actions betrays Osinbajo's critical reforms. Buhari kills the best in you hence should be voted out. The worst marketer Nigeria ever had.

We need more engagement from would-be Presidents and Governors.

Almaiga:
This Abaribe guy should go and sit down, he criticize every policy of this Government. He act like he can do any better if giving the chance.

This government has no policy, no regulations and no master plan.

Just obstructing

Remoter:
I refused to agree with you that padding with direct constituency projects without national priority but solely for looting is legal.

Dr NOI openly declared that the cost of passing only 2015 budget was 20 billion. Same amount was the first released to the legislator who are also legalised to execute projects.

I will not agree with you.

That cost is part of politics. It is a game though people detest it but it is legitimate and legal

Remoter:
It takes a hardened thief to lead ligislooters who are national figures for nothing.

Stop calling people thieves as if you are better.

What you call thievery is legitimate in politics. You can vote them out through the ballot or civil disobedience.

vedaxcool:
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Statements attributed to the DMO is now hogwash? Abeg Ngwakwe no be by force to talk

Stop this foolish obsession with Ngwakwe.

I said itemize the debts.

State which Government that took each loan with date.

Obasanjo - N,........
Yardua - N ..........
Jonathan - N .........
Buhari - N ........
State Governments - N ...........

Be more comprehensive

Remoter:
With highest history of budget padding!.

Thank God PMB was bold at discarding all.

Stop being ignoramus.

The NASS (Parliament) owns the National purse in all democracies and gives the Executive whatever it agrees to spend.

The Democrats in US padded the last budget with more than $500 billion which Trump hesitated and finally signed.

Be versatility and stop repeating this foolish Nigerian mantra called Budget padding. It is called give and take or lobbying in democracies which is perfectly legal

GavelSlam:
The DMO knows more about our debt than any other organisation.

Okonjo-Iweala and her boss, drove Nigeria into debt without the commensurate infrastructural growth for which this debt was obtained.

Your report is hogwash.

Tell us what Jonathan's government borrowed from May, 2010 to May, 2015. Stop adding State debts and other institutional support.

The current Senate is a success story.


He is carrying every Senator along in a bipartisanship structure

allexpensive:
There's nothing like 134 bn here. They came under attack around 6pm thinking security will be concentrated here in Gudumbali. Men from the 145 bn repelled the attack with AFSF with further clearance.

Please be truthful. Just tell us what happened and let's know the details but for denying the existence of 143 battalion sounds pathetic and makes your rebuttals imaginary.

134 and 174 Battalions — The two battalions are under the MNJTF.

Corrinthians:
I can't believe LadyExcellency could tell such a blatant lie. I can't believe she never saw or downloaded any such document yet claimed she did.

This is really shameful!

This is how most of these PDP sympathisers go around social media spreading half truths and outright falsehood. You say you see something, oya post screen shot, e become rocket science.

SMH

Read through the debate, I beat him hands down. I posted the screenshot and defeated him in all ramifications.

I posted the amendments and substantiated the truth on differences between the 2014 and the proposed 2018 amendment to prove that the presidency was not coming forth with the truth.

It's obvious the Economy is collapsing and this presidency is ignorant, have no clue or policy directives to do something transformational.

How I wish Buhari will travel for another three months to allow Prof. Osinbajo to consult beyond Buhari's cabinet to remedy the intending tragedy that is waiting to hit Nigeria.

CBN Governor, Aunty Kemi and some other policymakers should be relieved of their job and allow experienced and tested Economists to saddle the responsibility of restructuring the Economy and consequently instill confidence in investors.

It is even an understatement.

A dumb President that never communicate to the citizenry.

The issue here is that Buhari exhibits high degree of dementia which no other former leader has ever suffered.

Freetech:
Thanks for this more clarification.

PDP is a pathetic opposition. They continue lying everyday about Nigeria debt claiming this govt has taken more loan in 3 years than the total loan taken in 16years of PDP

They deceive the gullible by quoting the debt left by PDP in Naira as 12trn that APC double it within 3 years to 22trn. The clarification above show in $ this is a lie and a deliberate attempt to conceal the fact.

And you believe this nonsense.

Have you ever seen APC refuting borrowing more than PDP ever either through the presidency, the budget office or APC spokesman?

What is Nigeria's credit rating?
What is the inflation rate?
What is the Quarterly GDP growth?
What is the GDP per capital?
What are the monthly employment numbers?
What is the percentage pay(wages) rise?

The above parameters and others are the bases of rating the Economy.

Section 52 (2) - Conduct of polls in 2015 was to Conduct Polls by Open Secret Balloting , this provision was amended to give INEC the discretion to determine the procedure for polls and e-voting voting. Now, in 2018 Amendment it seeks to further amend the provision to mandate the Commission to conduct elections by electronic voting or any other method of voting as it may determine from time to time.

Buterflyle0:
This is from the 2015 elections

Sections 49 and 52 of the Electoral Act 2010 (as amended) had been subjected to legal debate in respect to the use of the card reader for the 2015 general elections. To some, the deployment of card readers for the accreditation of voters at the
elections tactically meant adoption of electronic voting, which the 2010 Electoral Act outlaws
(Oderemi, 2015). Section 49 states that:
(1) Every person intending to vote shall present himself to a Presiding Officer at the polling
unit in the constituency in which his name is registered with his voter‟s card. (2) The
Presiding Officer shall, on being satisfied that the name of the person is on the Register of
Voters, issue him a ballot paper, and indicate on the Register that the person has voted. Section
52 stipulates that: (1) Voting at an election under this Act shall be by open secret ballot. (2)
The use of electronic voting machine for the time being is prohibited. (3) A voter on receiving
a ballot paper shall mark it in the manner prescribed by the Commission. (4) All ballots at an election under this Act at any polling station shall be deposited in the ballot box in the open
view of the public.

In his contribution, Falana (2015) averred that the deployment of the card reader by INEC is
not illegal. He submitted that INEC has the constitutional power to set the standards and
guidelines for elections. In view of this, he argued that the card reader is part of accreditation
and not voting. He maintained that what the law proscribed is electronic voting and not the
card readers. Therefore, according to him the use of the card reader in the 2015 general
elections is legal and legitimate (cited in Oderemi, 2015).

The Society for Advancement and Protection of Public Rights (SAPPR) (2015), a civil society
in its submission argued that the deployment of the card reader is illegal because it is in
violation of Section 52 (1) of the Electoral Act, 2010 (as amended). SAPPR opined that the use
of the card reader for screening of voter cards or which has the effect of preventing a registered voter to vote is beyond the powers of INEC. As such, the civil society maintained that by virtue of Sections 77 (2) and 117 (2) of the 1999 Constitution (as amended) of Nigeria.

These were the legal arguments for and against the use of the card reader in 2015 of which inec won because their powers also covered any means they thought fit to be used for accreditation.

Some of you just talk carelessly.

Current Provision

Provides that persons intending to vote with their vote’s card must present themselves to a Presiding Officer at the polling unit where his name is registered- section 49(1)

However, the Presiding Officer will only issue him a ballot paper and indicate that he has voted on the register after confirming that his name is on the Register of Voters under section 49 (2).

2018 Amendment

Under the proposed section 49(1 a person must present himself with his voter’s card to a Presiding officer for accreditation at the polling unit where his name is registered.

2014 says intending to vote with voters card compared it with the 2018 amendment which states explicitly "must present a valid voters card"

2014 provision strictly based qualification to vote on voters registers which 2018 Amendment annulled by giving superemacy to "valid authenticated voters card"

Buterflyle0:
You seem.to have forgotten the Jega and GEJ debacle where GEJ did all he could to stop the use of card readers but Jega prevailed via the use of the courts and the support of the masses.

The card reader was part of the electoral act in 2015.

Get yourself updated.

Get me the July bill and stop mentioning me till you do

Stop deceiving yourself and post the screenshot of section 49 of 2014 Electoral Law as Amended

Present something credible to prove your claims

Not even one screenshot to show

Buterflyle0:
What you posted was an already existing electoral act and not the amendments. I already told you this.

You are wasting time going round in circles.

NASS drafted the bill and not the presidency. They should show where they included the card reader in the latest amended bill sent in July.

The presidency says it is not included. The Onus is actually on you and not me.

I have the 2014 amendments and Section 49 contains no such mention of card reader or any technology.

You have lied again. If you can't find the 2014 amendment yourself, I will gladly post the screenshot

Buterflyle0:
There is nothing academic about this. Simply post the latest electoral bill transmitted to PMB in July that's all.

There will be no debate once it shows the card reader was not omitted

I post the amendments and you accused me of posting 2014 amendment - you lied, it was 2018 amendments

If the amendments I quoted were deleted, prove it by posting the latest. The onus is on you not me.

I have the copy of the document containing all the 2018 amendments

Buterflyle0:
I have already told you that what you thought was an amendment was not one. It was already there in 2015 electoral act. That was not the focus of PMB for rejecting it the first time it was passed.

They now took it back and tinkered with it, probably hoping that since PMB already saw the card reader was mentioned in the first one, he would just go straight to the areas he asked them to ammend so they ended up deleting certain crucial sections which could have also included the card reader usage especially since the lawmakers admitted to deleting certain sections despite PMB telling them to Ammend it and not delete it.

This was why PMB rejected it a second time and apparently, for the Presidency to now say the card readers was not included in the second bill transmitted to them in July. This means it must have been one of those deleted.

Use your head.

Now your assignment is to get me the one for July that shows it was not deleted rather than bringing to me the one from February.

For once try to approach this debate academically because everything is not about politics.

Notwithstanding, I will consult more to get the latest copy.

Thanks for your time.

Buterflyle0:
Madam take your L and go.

I have given you an assignment to fulfil.

Stop posting the bill of February when this thread is about the second time they passed the bill in July with key areas deleted.

First, you accused me of posting 2014 amendment. I refuted it then you quoted disputed sections in 2018 amendments that had nothing to do with Section 49.

Again, I brought your attention to the two new subsections (1) and (2) that were added to provide for the smart card reader and other technological devices in elections.

You finally shouted at me without providing a verifiable link to your claim that these amendments were deleted which you claimed previously never existed

Buterflyle0:
Madam take your L and go.

I have given you an assignment to fulfil.

Stop posting the bill of February when this thread is about the second time they passed the bill in July with key areas deleted.

Please can you substantiate your claim that the. Amendment of section 49 with new subsections (1) and (2) were deleted?

Backup your claim with verifiable link where the subsections are no more.

Many people are here to learn

Buterflyle0:
This is actually the amendment as declared by the senators who were responsible for it.



Read that again and again

All you posted or rather quoted had nothing to do with the new subsections (1) and (2) in Section 49. These were new additions

The new addition enshrines the use of the smart card reader and other technological devices in elections

Buterflyle0:
Do you see how you lie so shamelessly?

What you are pasting is the current position of the electoral act using card readers and not the bill passed to the FG recently.

What you are busy posting here is the electoral act from 2015 and not the recently forwarded one to the FG for signing.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/03/the-constitutionality-of-the-use-of-the-card-reader-machine/amp/

Nice try but your lie wasn't good enough

Amendment of section 49 with new subsections (1) and (2) This provision enshrines the use of the smart card reader and other technological devices in elections

Kyase:
That girl, na confirm cheat.
I pity her guy sha....

Sorry, I wasn't online to defend my earlier comment. Please, I'm an honourable person and do care about morals and ethics.

I have posted it.

Gliding:
We are waiting patiently for you to post the link or upload the documents. I haven't been able to get it online

Cc Butterflyle0

Buterflyle0:
Ask NASS to do so, they passed it. The Presidency has responded that the card reader was not part of the bill. So NASS should prove them wrong

Is there, unless President's Assistant lacks simple understanding of English language. I just downloaded the PDF file

Where is bill passed by the NASS?

We need the presidency to post the bill for Nigerians to know the truth.

If Saraki becomes President then Tinubu's ambition will be dead.

Saraki should plan without the Southwest votes because he definitely won't get it.