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Billyonaire: Their merger should not fail. I expect them to merge and nominate someone better than GEJ. I am yet to see such a candidate, that can buckle the Sandals of GEJ. Buhari is politically dead. Tinubu is politically in limbo. El-Rufai has gone loco on twitter. Sanusi too north-extreme in his belief system. I look around in all honesty, I see nothing good coming out of the abortion called Merger. |
Billyonaire: Their merger should not fail. I expect them to merge and nominate someone better than GEJ. I am yet to see such a candidate, that can buckle the Sandals of GEJ. Buhari is politically dead. Tinubu is politically in limbo. El-Rufai has gone loco on twitter. Sanusi too north-extreme in his belief system. I look around in all honesty, I see nothing good coming out of the abortion called Merger.Why anyone would listen to the opinion of an agent paid for the very purpose of having that opinion and convincing other to toe the same line, continues to beat my imagination? |
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Sisi_Kill: Kobo. . . I think it is official - You have the patience of a saint. My God! How do you do it??You guys are so funny. Where does it say I have absolute faith in what Pastors and elders believe? Sometimes, some events or things happen in church someone has to make a decision about it. You think God comes down physically and makes them? Why are you girls being so petty? I'm merely saying kobo-junkie should stop quoting one aspect of the Bible on a subject. You should take the entire discourse of the Bible on the subject as a whole. Simple. Is that so difficult for you to comprehend? You say I'm regaling with tales. They are not tales. These are real life stories. It is a fact that churches have had to annul marriages in special circumstances; and it has happened in all the major reputable church you can think of: MFM, Redeem, Deeper Life, Foursquare, CAC, The Apostolic Church....... It is true that a christian should have a mind of his and read the Bible himself. But its another thing to think that reputable church leaders all don't know the Bible, that you are the one that really knows? Okay Miss wise girl, someone pls help me ask this girls, in cases where an impotent man marries a christian sister, what does the church do? Pls do answer. Churches do not publicize these things. No church will say I have annul this number of marriages; Praise the Lord. No, but they will boast about the marriages they have conducted. I have not said the Bible suppotrs divorce. No, God doesn't like it. But is also wrong for u to say the Bible forbids divorce 100 percent of 100 percent of the time no matter the circumstance. It is wrong because it's simply not true. You accuse me of not reading the Bible. Reaaly? Maybe is u girls that are not, because this things are not hidden in the Bible. I have mentioned Apostle Paul. You never refuted that he did not say what I said he told the church in one of his letters. All have heard from you is sentiments and words like; poor guy, so indoctrinated, no mind of his own. Tomorrow I will post that Bible portion of what Paul said tomorrow . Am I the one that wrote that in the Bible? Is Paul among those church leaders you say we must not believe their words? Pls do tell. No sentiments this time. |
Stay in Ikotun. We can meet up at Mr. Bigs at Ikotun. A guy called me. I was suppose to how to get to my side to you. My phone dropped and the battery fell. I had not saved your number and therefore could not send you the text. U may flash me with your number. |
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Kobojunkie: Funny thing is I have not give you @lanre_font relationship advise. I have simply told you to READ THE BIBLE. If that is too much to ask of you, a supposed Christian, then something is wrong somewhere, and I hope God saves anyone else you try to spread your brand of Christianity to.Hey, Miss lovely kobo-junkie, Telling me to read my Bible pre-supposes that I don't read my Bible. Then, what is my brand of christianity? And you can tell that from a discussion about divorce? Oh no, I already said Peace. Out. But see what you've done: you dragged me all out here again. |
naptu2:Yeah, you right about that one; funny as hell. I am making intellectual discourse and analysis from the Bible, yet keeps telling me to read my Bible myself! Yet she says nothing in return to the points have raised. |
Kobojunkie: Again . . .And all that I've said, there is church leader here beside me telling what to write? You have no discourse on this matter, except to whip up emotions and throw tantrums. You keep repeating read the bible yourself. Are the things I' talking not in the bible. Anyway, Miss lovely kobo-junkie, its been nice while it lasted. Let's call it a day, and help me say hello to your friend Sisi-kill on the way out. Seems she took offence at my post referencing " head" and "lovely". Help me tell her that I am sorry. So,......peace. Out. |
Kobojunkie: Again, in the Bible there are no separate rules for those you call elders and your person. The bible says everyone will be judged from the same book . .. all the names of your elders, your lords and you will be written in the same book. The same rules, the laws in the bible, will you be judged by. So, all you keep typing is balderdahs if it does not even stand up against what is in the bible. You might as well tell us that you are in a cult where hierarchy matters because no where in the Church are you told that the pastor or elder will have to answer for your beliefs. You have access to the Bible, read it and learn of God. .. . not expect another man to spoon feed up what he regurgitates and then think that exempts you from responsibility as a Child of God. Notice: We are all called as Sons of God -- none greater than the others . . . . So, if you choose the way of your elders and not the way of God, then if they go to hell, you go to hell too.I give up; your case is hopeless. You are not arguing intellectually. The goal of your argument can summed up this : I must win him, he no fit win me lailai. First, there was nothing in what I wrote that suggested that the rules that applies to elders or leaders in church are different to the ones that apply to other christians. Your mind is closed. You are determined to believe only what you wish to believe. You are still doing what I talked about; u take just one passage out of the bible and you go ahead and make a doctrine out it. You say "what God has joined together, let no man put asunder" and ask whether I've not seen it. Ofcourse I've seen it, but the difference between you and me, and those who have a correct or balance perspective of the Bible and those who don't is that, one build a whole doctrine on marriage on just a quotation in the Bible while the other goes through the entire bible and takes into cognizance everything that has been said on the subject. Did you hear me say God instructions to Moses on how Isrealites were to divorce their wives. Did you hear what I said Paul in one his letters when answering questions on divorce. He gave conditions under which a christian man or woman remarry without guilt. But no, you only take one thing and fixate on that one thing. Whenever you want to discover truth in the bible concerning a certain topic, you take as a whole all the bible says about the subject. You dont take a portion or few passages and fixate on them. |
DeAdvocate: All of una jst dey talk bulshit. D guy is nt married. He's just tryin to raise heated denominational arguements. Shun dis fucking thread. Ekwusigokwa m |
DeAdvocate: All of una jst dey talk bulshit. D guy is nt married. He's just tryin to raise heated denominational arguements. Shun dis fucking thread. Ekwusigokwa mDon't worry. I think many of us are quite aware that the guy's story is probably fiction as many others on Nairaland. But we are just having an intellectual discourse on matter that is probable. That's all. |
Sisi_Kill: There is nothing I find more amusing than someone making a case for the person they are arguing against.My dear sister, please get this into your lovely head (it must be lovely since your name is Sisi-kill) churches have been annuling marriages in special circumstances before you and I were born. There is no general rule. Each case is looked at in its own merit. If you don't know, why don't get around and ask Ministers of God; yes even the so ones you look up to. Yes I repeat again, some people think they know the Bible but their knowledge of the Bible is not balance and they take passages out of the context of chapter and, time and place and reason for which what was written was written. Are you telling me none of those examples I cited is not grounds to annul a wedding. Anullment means the marriage never took place because one of the partners deceived the other by mis-representing who he/she or by lying about something fundamental. Know this if you don't, they have been cases in church where impotent men marry christian ladies. This is especially more possible in church since a-no-sex approach in dating is seen as a virtue. It is the thinking of those men that because the church does not condone divorce, and since the lady is a true Christian, once the marriage is done, the lady has no choice than to remain in the marriage. Churches don't waste time in annulling those marriages unless the lady involved expressed otherwise. Then one more thing, did you miss the part where I talked about Paul. Is he also one of your sooooo call elders who are going against what Jesus said. Apostle Paul in his letters gave answers to some question being asked about divorce. Firstly, he cited instances that the christian man or woman has no choice but to remain in the marriage. Then he now cited another that the christian brother or sister can move on with life and remarry without any guilt. Paul said in cases where the unbeliever abandons or leaves the christian partner, he or her can go ahead and re-marry. Paul was specifically talking to those women whose husband abandoned them because they converted to the Christian faith which was not so popular then. But hey, did't Jesus say that a man or woman committs adultery with whenever he or she re-marries. ? Is Apostle Paul, the greatest of all the apostles now in open rebellion to God. Peter, James, John and the others who were present when Jesus said this things were also all among the leaders of the Church at that time. Did you hear anywhere that the other apostles went against Paul. Paul was such an Apostle even when he chastised Peter when Peter didn't want to eat with gentiles, Peter said, yes sir and apologised. I guess you've never read those portions or the Bible or you've read them but never reflected on them. But then, there is no contradiction in the Bible; Paul was only giving greater detail concerning specifities on the issues of divorce which Jesus trying to address. The spirit in Jesus is the same Spirit in Paul. Those things and passages from different portions of the Bible, which seems like contradictions, is the Bible trying to balance each other, so that you don't go too much to the right or to the left, but you remain in the middle. The Bible says in Proverbs "Do not be over-righteous; why destroy yourself". But hey I thought the Bible said "Righteousness exults a nation........". It also say ".....only the righteous shall see God". But then another person can say the same exact thing that Paul said but its not coming from God. There is no hard or fast rules in this. It depends of who is speaking. Usually you are very smart and sharp-witted, but right now, you and dollar friend are talking like babies. |
Sisi_Kill: But there is a difference between someone straight up lying to you about who....what they are and someone showing themselves inside out to you.You do have some points, I will concede that to you. However, know that I only gave that those examples because of the iron-clad posture by some people by throwing up the passage. God says "I hate divorce" from the Bible which is only one side of the story. God was actually saying he hates divorce for just any frivolous reasons because that it what Isrealite men were doing to their women. It was then He now gave instructions to Moses on how they must go about in divorce. Even those laws God gave then no longer applies because Jesus had raised the bar ( the standard) in the New Testament. Even when he was raising it (i.e the BAR) He made reference to the Old Testament by saying "In the past, Moses allowed you to do.......... so so and so ............ But now I tell you...............so so and so. Yesn what the lady in question did was not as extreme as the ones I mentioned (and believe me this things have happened. Will give one funny but true example soon) but it's still along the same lines. He categorically told the guy after marriage she will leave the Catholic church and start attending same church with him knowing very well the matter is very close to the guy's heart and as such very important, vital and essential to him. Immediately after the wedding, she does 360 degree turn-around and says nothing of such is going to happen. That in my book is a serious matter. It's now left to each individual to decide how serious it is for them. But for someone to sit down somewhere and say its no big deal dosen't cut it at all. Its a big deal to him and the lady know that. Now to my example: In Deeper Life Church, like that mid-nineties, a lady married a man whom the whole church considered to be a nice christian brother because that is what he portrays through his actions, utterances and behaviour. The lady got married to him and everyone was happy. They did not have any sex during courtship. Then the guy began to demand for sex like a mad man; a man possessed. He wants sex from the lady every time, every minute. After marathons through the evening and night, in the morning he will still want it before the lady can go to work. In making her case, the lady said, if she makes a mistake coming back home to pick something in the afternoon (seems her workplace is close to her home) and they jam each other, he must make her have another rounds of sex, and that will not disturb the one that is still coming for evening and night. It was sex sex sex all the time and it was everyday. Believe you me, Deeper Life Church anulled that marriage within six months. |
Kobojunkie: Instead of remaining ignorant, pick up a Bible and READ . . IGNORANCE is not bliss especially when you have access to the very same source of information on Christianity,and the God of Christianity, that your so called "elders" have. It is stupid to put your salvation in the hands of other humans.Clearly you are the one that is ignorant. You think being philsophical and an independent and free-minded thinker makes you think you know the Bible. Sure, we are to study the Bible ourselves and not idolize men of God. Sure; but you think you know than men of God over the ages that have served God almost all their lives and made great sacrifices for God, even with their very lives . So all of them don't know anything. You are the one that really knows. Even Paul in the Bible, an Elder and Apostle listed some conditions where the wife or husband is permitted to re-marry without any guilt on their part. But you guys just keep on quoting one part of the you probably heard from somewhere since it has become a slogan. Then any reasonable person who reads my post will definitely see sense in it even if she or her is not completely convinced. The fact that you completely disregarded everything with total disdain says this: I believe people like you are hypocritical. I'm sure if you got married in the church to a guy, who deceived you that he is a graduate, a christian, a business man whose business is into oil and gas. Within 6 months of marriage, you discover he is an AMORC and has a secret shrine in his house, he really his a drug-pusher and a weapon and arms dealer, he has three children from women he never married and far from what being a christian, he infacts hates christianity and pastors and anything that has to with God with a passion. Infact, he can't stand you praying. When you confront him, he says it's all true and so what about it. He says you are his wife now and you do what he says. I've been reading your posts and thread for a while I can fairly guage your temperance and your kind of person. I'm sure even before the church makes a decision, you would have made your own decision and absconded. And don't even start by saying such can never happen to you because that's just nonsense. It has happened to men and women that are probably more intellectually advanced and wiser than you. It has even happened to some women who are leaders of big christian ministry. And by the way, the church leader who I said has been sitting down with other leaders to consider annul marriages where the husband is an unrepentant wife beater with clearly no hope or intention of changing is Pastor Ashimolowo. Please let me hear you say he does not know the Bible or that he is a fake man of God. They are doing this because of an increasing number of women who are being killed in their homes by the very man who is to protect them. Revelation is continous and the some changes do not necessarily changes the basic fundamentals of the Bible and God's laws. An example of your one-sided shallow bible-knowledge, but take heart because you are not in it alone: You shout here God says in the Bible "I hate divorce". But in the same Old Testament Bible, God gave to Moses laws concerning the process by which Isrealite men should follow in divorcing their wives. Did you know that? If you say it's a lie I will search and post that section of the Bible. Can't remember off-hand now. Even in the LETTERS of Paul to the Church, there was a part where he was making giving judgement on a matter and he said as he is talking, even though he has not received direct orders from God, he says as an upright Apostle of God (he goes on to list his credentials) that is filled with His spirit, he is speaking the mind of God and everyone can take that to the bank. But I will agree the rise in theses times, all sorts of fake ministers have not made the matter simple as it was then. But it does not change the fact that elders leaders in the church do make decsions like that and they've making for a long time. No be today. Granted Paul case was special he really really was of one mind with God. He infact was first among the Apostles even though he met Jesus physically. But I'm not speaking of a single church leader making decision here. We are talking of several who have steadfastness and are credible men of God, spirit-filled coming together. As iron sharpeneth iron, so does mind sharpeneth minds. So you think the Spirit if God won't be present in their forum? You think they are being led of the devil and not of God? You think God will not reckon with whatever they come up with as long as it does not contradict his Word. God is no respecter of person, but he is a honour-er of men and he honours his chosen ones. Did you know that at a time, church leaders all over the world, spirit-filled men, gathered and decided which books to remove from the Bible and which book stays. They were almost going to remove the Songs of Solomon but in the end they included it back because through rubbing of minds, they came realize that it depicted the kind of love that christ had for the church. Does God not confirm today that the Bible is His word through many ways. Like I said, stop thinking you are an epitome of Bible-knowledge. If you were a lawyer I would have called you a baby-lawyer. |
crackhouse: so ur marriage is based on sth, right? Assuming she stop going to church at all. Will u still continue with the marriage?.Pls do reason correctly, man. This is not something that crops up later during the marriage. This is a major issue, major to both parties, that discussed exhaust-ively and she assured of defer to him and support. Immediately after marriage she does a 360 turn-around and says "You know what men, guy what I told I will do, just forget about because it aint gonna happen. |
Kobojunkie: Not according to the Bible though!You don't know much about the Bible; you just think you do. Elders in the Church have the authority to annul a marriage based on outright deceit. Example, a woman that has no womb but kept this from the man. Example: a guy that has no stable job but deceived the girl into thinking he works at a bank. A guy who pretended to a woman he had an apartment of his own only for the woman to discover he only borrowed from a friend to deceive and now he tells her they will live in his parent's house and there is nothing she can do about. They have even been guys who are muslims or some other occultic religion, but because they want a good woman and they really dig her person, they lead her to believe they completely converted to christ by following her to church frequently with a faked ethusiasm. Then immediately after marriage, he shows his colour, beleiving there is nothing the woman can do since the christian God ahtes divorce. Nonsense! God didn't say that so that every good con men or women can trap his children into a nightmarish marriage. Even because of recent happening, some churches are delibrating on anulling marriages in which the man it is clear that the man is an un-repentant wife beater, and the beating had gotten to the point the woman's life is now in danger. Churches do annul such marriages every now and then. Stop saying what you don't know about. And what the elders annul stands annuls before God; unless God does not reckon with the church. |
Sisi_Kill: It seems OP knew the only way to get Nairalanders to support his lunacy is to include her age.From the guy's post, it is fairly clear why he included her age: to show that this a matured woman doing her act and not a silly girl throwing tantrums. And it did help in people analaysing the situation, hence some already said a woman a her age is already set in her ways and will hardly change; that she came with a script which she is acting out and her mind is made up. Which is true. So stop infering meaning of your own that isn't present. And what the lady did is not "having a mind of her own", it is being a liar and deceitful on a major issue which the guy considered very important concerning the kind of family he had in mind. The lady in question told him YES, no problem, only. Do to do a 360 on him immediately after marriage. Is that your definition of "having a mind of your own? He did not force him to marry him, did she? She should have declined and the guy will go ahead and find someone else. |
tishat: @poster:you are just getting worked up For nothing! the bible says work out YOUR salvation with fear and trembling{not your spouse salvation}secondly you have no issue because she is aPure Errant Nonsense Talk This woman deceived him. It was a calculated deceit. The guy told her what he wanted because he had a certain picture in mind the kind of family he wants to build and this woman has ruined that for him. She does not have the right take away the kind of life he wants from him. And I see u talking church talk. Let me tell you, go and ask elders in church, this thing that has happened is enough grounds for the church to nullify the marriage. I've seen such a thing happened before at MFM and none other than OLUKOYA himself was involved. That aside, her act goes beyond the act itself. It shows she is among those breed of woman who do not give a hoot about her husband when it comes to making decisions. It what she will do she will do and the husband can go to blazes for she cares. She thinks since he has married her, he has entered her trap and cannot come out again. I have an elder brother that married such a woman about almost three years. She was all sweet, kind and gentle. She did not even wait for marriage. Immediately after introduction, she became someone entirely different. It was as if an alien took over her body. They are both writing a ANAN (like ICAN) which is in Jos. Immediately after the introduction they took off to Jos. My brother, it was something else. She was talking anyhow and shouting and abusing him publicly, in front of other students. He was thinking of not going through the wedding but I guess he didn't have the nerve. But today he wished he had. Like a wise guy said on this thread, she came with her own script and does not care whose ox is gored. Her mind is made up and trust me, such a woman is a stubborn woman always spuring for a fight. As time goes on, she will want to be controlling you by wanting her views or decisions on issues to be the one adhered to. Don't worry, as time goes on, you will still see all sorts of revelation. You ain't seen nothing yet. This is only the beginning. Imagine she didn't even wait like ayear or two and then start going to Catholic church little by little. You promised somebody, you gave your word and immediately after the wedding you turn around and say "Old boy, nothing like that o; me I no dey follow you go any Anglican Church. Let me come and see the jupiter that will make me go" Trust me; this is only the beginning. Have the marriage nullified and move on with your life. No one has the right to make another person miserable. A word is enough for the wise. Experience is not always the best teacher. Learn from other people's experience. |
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IBB, you can say what you like, but those who said you institutionalized corruption are absolutely correct. You laid the foundation, and upon the foundation, the gigantic, encompassing and monstrous house of corruption was built. Before IBB, it never entered the mind of politicians that you can be stealing money in tens of millions and billions. What do you need all that money for? What would remain to spend for the common man? But IBB changed all that in Nigeria. Then in order to please the Americans, he brought in SAP and turned the value of the naira to nonsense and ruined the economy. IBB was the beginning of the fall of Nigeria economically. Before himn the standard of living of the common man was quite high. I remember clearly that Sardine which has become a choice recipe today was the food of labourers. They just but bread, buy one sardine and pour it in the middle. But IBB, if it makes you sleep better at night, you can keep telling yourself what you are telling yourself. However, history will put what you have done in proper perspective - that you will be remembered as the leader who laid the foundation of the hydra-headed monster, CORRUPTION. |
IBB, you can say what you like, but those who said you institutionalized corruption are absolutely correct. You laid the foundation, and upon the foundation, the gigantic, encompassing and monstrous house of corruption was built. Before IBB, it never entered the mind of politicians that you can be stealing money in tens of millions and billions. What do you need all that money for? What would remain to spend for the common man? But IBB changed all that in Nigeria. Then in order to please the Americans, he brought in SAP and turned the value of the naira to nonsense and ruined the economy. IBB was the beginning of the fall of Nigeria economically. Before himn the standard of living of the common man was quite high. I remember clearly that Sardine which has become a choice recipe today was the food of labourers. They just but bread, buy one sardine and pour it in the middle. But IBB, if it makes you sleep better at night, you can keep telling yourself what you are telling yourself. However, history will put what you have done in proper perspective - that you will be remembered as the leader who laid the foundation of the hydra-headed monster, CORRUPTION. |
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IBB, you can say what you like, but those who said you institutionalized corruption are absolutely correct. You laid the foundation, and upon the foundation, the gigantic, encompassing and monstrous house of corruption was built. Before IBB, it never entered the mind of politicians that you can be stealing money in tens of millions and billions. What do you need all that money for? What would remain to spend for the common man? But IBB changed all that in Nigeria. Then in order to please the Americans, he brought in SAP and turned the value of the naira to nonsense and ruined the economy. IBB was the beginning of the fall of Nigeria economically. Before himn the standard of living of the common man was quite high. I remember clearly that Sardine which has become a choice recipe today was the food of labourers. They just but bread, buy one sardine and pour it in the middle. But IBB, if it makes you sleep better at night, you can keep telling yourself what you are telling yourself. However, history will put what you have done in proper perspective - that you will be remembered as the leader who laid the foundation of the hydra-headed monster, CORRUPTION. |
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