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PoliticsRe: Is Bishop Mathew Kuka Right About Boko Haram? by lanrefront1(m): 12:46am On Aug 06, 2012
aletheia: Why do you think that is? A lot of (or possibly a few) Northern Muslims think that BH stands apart and does not represent Islam. They see the violence that BH targets at Non-Muslims as something of recent onset. The truth is that it is not so. The rest of us see it as a continuum, a natural progression of violence meted out to Non-Muslims and Non-Hausa/Fulani/Kanuri in the past. We remember the hate and the riots and the killings in Kaduna, Kano, Jos etc.

It is easy for the elite educated Northern Muslims like yourself in their comfort zones to discount this view, but for those of us who have had to flee or hide while a mob chanting "Allahu Akbar" kills our loved ones and destroys and loots our property, BH is not new. . .it is the latest incarnation of a culture that has been prevalent for generations up north. It is personal as in the case of a taxi driver who swore to me never to have anything to do with the Hausa/Fulani; his reason: right before his eyes, his elder brother was killed in the Miss World Kaduna riots, and he only barely escaped with his life and a scar on his neck from the attempted beheading. For ones such as these, it is a self-serving argument to claim that "More Muslims have been killed by BH". BH could only have arisen because the culture of the North provided fertile ground. There is abject poverty all over the country, but why didn't BH arise in Kogi state or Ekiti state?

I recall some while back telling some of my Northern educated Muslim colleagues like yourself that their failure to provide leadership in their communities, their failure to condemn violence targeting non-Muslim and non-Hausa/Fulani/Kanuri would one day come back to haunt them. I distinctly remember reminding them of Martin Niemoller's quote to buttress my warning.

Today what do we see: BH who are most definitely Muslims targets those Muslims in positions of authority who should have spoken out in the past and had the leverage to change that culture of violence.


Kukah glosses over this very very important fact. Suicide bombing shows that this group have an ideology and doctrine and a singular world-view that they are willing to die for.
I for one have always laughed when muslims all over the world reacts to acts of terrorism by their fellow muslims with slogans like "they are not real muslims", "Islam is a religion of peace".

Okay alright, let us concede they are not real muslims, that they are fake muslims.

Now they are so many religions all over the world, and within the adherents of this religions (christianity, Buddihism, Freemansory, Satanism, Vodoo; Sango, Ogun, Osun, Amedioha worshippers) we will also have ther fake adherents.

The critical question now is, why aren't the fake or not-real/unreal adherents of this religions committing acts of terrorism all over the place. Why is that that it's only fake muslims who are killing people and engaging in suecide-bombings. Why are not the fake christians, satanists, enkankar, guru-maraji, Buddhists, rosacrucians engaing in all this practices.

Muslims and Northerners should stop deceiving themselves. There is something seriously wrong in region that the leaders need to face head-on.

Then secondly, speaking more specifically about Northern Nigeria, it is said in the Bible: "he who sows the wind will reap the wild wind". Islamic extremist for several decades have been killing christians and non-hausa/fulani while the leaders, the elites and the general populace just look on. Now the monster they have reared for decades feels offended by them and has turned on them. The monster is completely out of control; it cannot be tamed, persuaded and has refused any appeasement form its masters.

Maybe it's true Bokoharam are killing many muslims on the streets; but thoise targets are not selective. They are general. The fact that more muslims die in this bomb-attacks is a function of the fact that the Northern population is predominantly muslim, not that muslims are selectively sought out and attacked.

So, though muslims maybe dieing on the streets because of Bokoharam attacks, that caanot obscure the fact that Bokoharam spend a lot of efforts on bombing churches. Why are they not bombing mosques.

Father Kukah does have a point, but it's not true to say Bokoharam is completely political and religion is not involved.
PoliticsRe: Is Bishop Mathew Kuka Right About Boko Haram? by lanrefront1(m): 10:58pm On Aug 05, 2012
So far, an interesting thread. Informative, decent and people actually arguing intelligently.

Will be following this thread. Hope more knowledgeable people on this thread will come forth.

If you are an empty barrel, just keep your peace and learn. It's not by force to show stupidity.
PoliticsRe: How Did Rochas Okorocha Become So Rich?! by lanrefront1(m): 10:31pm On Aug 05, 2012
The guy has asked a legitimate and good question. Actually is something - won't mind knowing also. We are here on this forum to learn from each other; so anyone that knows should please share.
PoliticsRe: Lagos Banned Activities Of NURTW by lanrefront1(m): 7:30pm On Aug 04, 2012
On this matter, if anyone says that in Lagos State, NURTW is an arm of ACN, even of you don,t like them (e.g. Beaf), but honestly they are not far from the truth.

Allowing the free reign of terror and lawlessness by Abgeros has been Tinubu's strategy of keeping Lagos from the hands of PDP.

But this doesn't have to be so. A good ACN governor can still win the votes of Lagosians people if he does good.

As for me I'm very sceptical about this. But for Fashola to announce it, I want to believe he must have been thinking about it for a long time.

Without a doubt there will be a big fall-out between Fashola and Tinubu over this; that is if Fashola is sincere in doing this.

I do criticise Fashola for several things; I do usually call him an elitist governors who neglects a certain part of Lagos and concentrates of the parts where the elites reside. But if he truly does this, I will not criticise him again. He will have my unwavering admiration, support and gratitude.

I will adopt a wait-and-see attitude over this announcement. There isn't need or cause to jump for joy yet.
PoliticsRe: Police Set To Arraign Farouk Lawan by lanrefront1(m): 12:38am On Aug 04, 2012
Elueme: Is this how mr integrithieve will end his career? How are the mighty fallen..
I will say that GEJ has swung his door open for transparency and a zero tolerance to corruption. Imagine the ground breaking revelations in this tenure? The truth is nigeria was worse than this but these crimes were being concealed. Gradually this administration is gradually opening the can of worm. If Nigeria continues at this frequency, only time just little time is needed for us to get it right
Are you on drugs? Because you have to be for you to say "GEJ has swung his door open for transparency and zero tolerance for consumption".

GEJ is up to his neck in corruption. GEJ os one of the most compromised Presient in the world. He has so many skeletons in his cupboard, therefore he just cannot bring others to order.

Even the US through Secretary Hilary Clinton have said clearly in diplomatic language that GEJ's Administration purported fight against corruption is nothing but noise-making.

Which country are you living? Definitely not this Nigeria; it must be another one.
PoliticsRe: Police Set To Arraign Farouk Lawan by lanrefront1(m): 5:27pm On Aug 03, 2012
Beaf: Whether the house can't or won't impeach the President is beyond the point. The point is that Farouk will be tried even if heaven falls, no matter how hard the subsidy mafia forces fight back.
GEJ doesn't give a damn anyway (and thats why he is in Trinidad and Tobago, not caring for the reps infantile flappings).
What the hell are you talking about? Up to your usual tricks of trying to confuse issues and people. GEJ and his group of friends, PDP associates and sponsors are the SUBSIDY MAFIA and not the other way round. Do you think it's possible for 3000 Billion (3 (Trillion) to be spent for an item which 245 Billion was budgeted for, under the nose of a sitting President without him knowing. It's IMPOSSICANT for such a monumental fraud to be perpetrated without the knowledge approval and active connivance of the President and his officials.

Please tell us another story; otherwise go gather small children and tell them the story.

Rubbish Somebody.
PoliticsRe: GEJ’s Adviser To Stand Surety For Suspected Subsidy Fraudster by lanrefront1(m): 6:07pm On Aug 02, 2012
D-Explorer:
So you wasted 5mins of your time editing and arranging posts? Is that all life has got for you?
You are a real idiot. And I'm sure I speak the mind of many from the bottom of their hearts.
PoliticsRe: GEJ’s Adviser To Stand Surety For Suspected Subsidy Fraudster by lanrefront1(m): 2:34pm On Aug 02, 2012
Our leaders have completely lost their sense of shame. And many followers following the leaders, like the several we have here on Nairaland have lost their power of correct and proper reasoning. Some because of poverty and some because of greed. By large, according to the Ghanian Professor who called GEJ a joke after his last NTA Media Chat, "Nigerians are a phycologically conquered people".
PoliticsRe: FG Retracts 56% Budget Implementation Claim by lanrefront1(m): 6:55pm On Aug 01, 2012
Demdem: Exactly, infact she doesnt need to constitute any new task force whatsoever. we already have project implementation groups in various ministries, enough special advisers on project implementation etc that are being paid by govt for the singular purpose of making sure projects are done strictly to specification. what are these ones doing? she stopping funds is far beyond her powers and she is disobeying the law of the land
[quote author=Demdem]That is why intellectual discourse is a good thing; you learn new things.

Now if there Budget Implementations groups in every Ministry, then Madam really have no excuse. She can reasonably be accused of one this two: incompetence or sabotage.
PoliticsRe: N25trillion Worth Of NEPA To Be Sold At N200billion.....scandalous! by lanrefront1(m): 6:35pm On Aug 01, 2012
Please can you quote a source for this your story.
PoliticsRe: FG Retracts 56% Budget Implementation Claim by lanrefront1(m): 6:23pm On Aug 01, 2012
Many of the guys defending Ngozi Iweala have said: it's because of the new policy of "not business as usual"; that Iweala is trying to be cautious and therefore delaying payments to make sure that monies released are spent on what they are meant for.

Be that as it may, even if we accede to this argument, the truth is that, it's not enough reason for such a an abysmal low level of budget implementation. There really is no tenable excuse for this; and anyone who disagrees with this does not know what a budget. It's either that or the person is full of mischief.

She should release money for budget implementation to a reasonable level and do whatever it takes to monitor that the money is spent on the items meant for, even it means forming her own special economic task force to perform this duty. Nigeria can afford it and she already has the President's maximum support.

Conclusion: 12% budget implementation of the country's budget is in-excusable no matter the reason. The House of Reps and Senate have not erred by calling her to order on this. They are doing the right thing. Are they supposed to be intimidated by her because she's from World Bank.
PoliticsRe: FG Retracts 56% Budget Implementation Claim by lanrefront1(m):
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PoliticsRe: N25trillion Worth Of NEPA To Be Sold At N200billion.....scandalous! by lanrefront1(m): 4:21pm On Aug 01, 2012
IF THIS IS TRUE, then the fraud that the Jonathan Administration is planning to perpetuate is 100 times more than of the fuel subsidy which is a colossal 2.7 trillion naira.

IF THIS IS TRUE, then , Nigerians had better get ready to go out on the streets in masses and stop this thieves from stealing our collective heritage.

IF THIS IS TRUE, then Tunde Bakare was right when he said it was Jonathan's destiny to bankrupt Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Budget: Angry Senators Walkout Anyim & Ministers Over Poor Performance by lanrefront1(m): 6:40am On Aug 01, 2012
Whether people believe it or not, Ngozi Iweala is an agent of the West. Her policies serves the interest of the imperialist West more than the interest of Nigeria.

I've always been of the opinion that she should never have been appointed as Minister of Finance. The American or British government would never appoint as its Minister of Finance an citizen who has lived and done business since his or her childhood in a country like Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, China, Japan, Nigeria, Kenya etc for about upwards of twenty years and even schooled there and works and became highly placed in their agencies. They will believe the person may have established life long lasting connections, interests and loyalties which will be at variance with the interest of their own nations.

It is only in a country like Nigeria where our leaders have that can't see the obvious that this happens. NCSA Iweala has been in the West since her childhood. She has worked in world-brett on institutions ever since she started working. Even when she finishes her stint with us, she's going back there. She is their darling.

Even with all this, the western interests she strives so hard to satisfy does not trust her enough to allow her to become the President of the World Bank. They cannot guarantee she will best serve their interest.

Then why should Nigeria's consideration be any different.

Alas we have a Present that has even publicly declared in Presidential Media Chat that he the President elected by the people is not the one running the economy but the appointed Minister of finance.

I really don't understand what is these pre-occupation of mysticism with Iweala. There are people in this country that can do better than her and their loyalty is 100% for Nigeria and not 1estern interest. I'm not talking about recycled old cargoes. We have economist like Pat Utomi, Boyo (can't remember his full name but he has spoken so many times of Channels news)

But Jonathan a PHD holder is so intimidated by her CV he just handed the whole country to her.
PoliticsRe: N500m Scam: Resign Now, PDP Tells Ikuforiji by lanrefront1(m): 9:10pm On Jul 31, 2012
Although I think PDP is the problem of this country, but on this very matter, the PDP spoke person is damn right on probably all his points . One sometimes must look at each case/matter on its own merit.

You cannot castigate the father for the crime of his son who is probably well over forty. Whether is fronting for the father or not is another matter all together.
PoliticsRe: Fashola To Endorse New Lagos Traffic Law Thursday by lanrefront1(m): 7:42pm On Jul 31, 2012
Those that say there is nothing wrong with the law need to think again. It's alright there should be traffic laws to act as a deterrent to drivers on the road. The question why is it necessary for the penalties to be so exorbitant. Penalties or punishment ought to be commensurate with offence.

How can you be charging 20k for even simple traffic offences that can sometimes be mistakenly committed if for example you are not familiar with some areas. I believe 3k is enough for simple traffic offences like stopping in the wrong place.

If anytime you make that mistake, you are immediately made to part with 3k, - believe that you will stop doing it even if you work in oil company.

It is false to say that for the law to work, the fines have to be crazily high. The only thing exorbitant fines like this do is create an avenue for corruption. If the fines are sensible, once you are caught, you just do the right thing. You pay your fine and don't bother negotiation anything with anyone's will even insist on getting a receipt.

But when the fine for even the simplest of traffic offence is 20k, Lastma officials will then have grounds to start negotiating with. They will say okay, brink 10k and will let you go.
PoliticsRe: Sarah Pane: GEJ Is The Most Insulted In The World - by lanrefront1(m): 11:38am On Jul 29, 2012
As an adviser why try to arrive at the root cause for this? The question that should be raised at the said gathering is: why are Nigerian youth lambasting, deriding, abusing and making jest of their leaders when it is not the norm in other countries of the world?

Could it perhaps be because Nigeria has the most selfish, uncaring, corrupt, greedy set of leaders in the world, and they have sentenced the dreams and aspirations of the youth of the country to life imprisonment.

Why do people leave the obvoius and babble nonsense.
PoliticsRe: Sarah Pane: GEJ Is The Most Insulted In The World - by lanrefront1(m): 11:13am On Jul 29, 2012
The question that shold be pondered is: why are Nigerians youth lambasting and abusing their leaders on the social media and why is is that the youth of other countries are not doing this?

Could it be perhaps that their leaders are the most selfish, corrupt, wicked, greedy, uncaring set of leaders in the world, who have sentenced the dreams and aspirations of the youth to life imprisonment.
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Politicians Are Insane, They Kill Dreams – Richard Branson by lanrefront1(m): 10:59am On Jul 29, 2012
doctokwus: Truth is bitter,but best be told.Dis bunch of d 1999-to date political class is d most corrupt dis nation or indeed any oda on d face of d earth(this is no exaggeration) has ever had.They think,eat,sleep corruption in all its varied forms,dey are nothing but a curse on d nation.Is it a wonder d only bizs dat thrive are those fuelled by d "Koras"& chinese wt similar corrupt mindset,willing to bribe first before strategising.I stand to b corrected,but d likes of Dangote wt his so called billions,Otedolas,Adenugas cannot survive in any decent,law abiding,open accounting biz society;dey just woundnt b able to cope
Thank you jare.

Some peopla always miss the point. Nonone is saying Branson is a saint. No business man of international status is.

The point: what he's saying over-true. I don't know why Nigerians make a fuzz when outsiders critisize their leaders who are killing them slowly and surely.
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Politicians Are Insane, They Kill Dreams – Richard Branson by lanrefront1(m): 9:45am On Jul 29, 2012
swaggerific: Bad as e be, he shouldnt criticize our government. Yes they are all crooks but he should stick to criticizing the british monarch.
Actually there isn't much to criticize about the British Monarch. They pay tax, they are proven to corrupt and in Britain, they are not above the law.

And yes, we need more powerful and notable people of world standing to continually lambast the greed and corruption of Nigerian politicians. If all world leaders crying this out they will be doing us a great service.

Evil thrives when it is covered up and not shouted on the top of the roofs.
Technology MarketRe: Expecting my Acer Laptop from RACHEL WANG by lanrefront1(m): 9:19am On Jul 29, 2012
If what you said truly happened, your friend deserves sympathy from noone; infact I wil only stop short of saying he deserves it.

There were enough discusions and warnings on Nairaland about the dubious nature of the character Rachael Wang. Even without this, it's so easy to spot that Wang is just sharp Nigerian trying to play on the intelligence of Nairalanders.
Technology MarketRe: Nokia N8 20k For Urgent Sale-SOLD by lanrefront1(m): 7:31am On Jul 26, 2012
I don't understand your message. Are you saying the N8 has already been bought or that the price has changed from 20k to 30k? Or do you have several?
PoliticsRe: Faroukgate: Police Uncover Fresh $10m Bribe by lanrefront1(m):
@Beaf = Dedeike = Billionyare = Reno Omokri + numerous unknown ids,

Stop trying to confuse Nairalanders and Nigerians. All that has come to light recently, the mind-blowing corruption in the subsidy regime, the subsidy-report, the $620k bribe-taking-&-giving, alledged $10m bribe-taking-&-giving: all this does not prove that the [fanthom] subsidy has to be removed completely.

Actually it PROVES THE EXACT OPPOSITE of the position you are trying to dupe Nigerians into accepting. It proves that there is no need for any subsidy. It proves that the original N245 billion naira appropriated for subsidy, which is NOT AT ALL A BURDEN for the Federation Account to shoulder, is more than enough or enough. It proves that Jonathan, just like Lawan is a thief, by spending N3000 billion naira for THIS SAME ITEM which an ADEQUATE N245 billion naira was apprropriated for by the National Assembly WITHOUT RESORTING back to the Assembly to ask for permission. If Jonathan did not ILLEGALY & CRIMINALLY approve the money, the theiving marketeters wouldn't have been able to theif the money. So just who has the GREATER RESPONSIBILTY here, and who is the GREATER THEIF here.

Removal of Subsidy = Removal of the Burden of the Greed & Corruption of PDP/GEJ and his FREINDS from the neck of GEJ's goverment and placing it on the neck of the masses.

Because of the gigantic amounts involved, PDP/GEJ realized milking the coffers of goverment through the subsidy is no longer sustainable otherwise his (GEJ) goverment may indeed collaspse. But instead of putting a stop to it altogether, they decide the best thing to do is to transfer the burden to the neck of the gullible Nigerian people. Afterall, the subsdiy regime is the biggest of source of political patronage for PDP & his freinds. It takes al ot money to rig elections and buy officials of INEC and Judiciary off. Where will all this money come form? GEJ's 2011 Campeign in which money was spent like water is a good example. It's an open secret now that most of this N3000 billion (3 trillion) was spent on GEJ's campeign by PDP.

People wonder why Joanthan is evidently not interested in implementing the subsdiy report. (Before you GEJ Ass-lickers shout the current report has been compromised, then the President should ORDER ANOTHER ONE FOR GOD'S SAKE!! It's that simple) It's because there there is no way the the marketers can be idicted without Joanthan and the Presidency being indicted.

Will someone in charge of Nairaland for God's sake ban this Beaf and his multiple IDs. I think Nairaland's credibilty is at stake here.
PoliticsRe: Forbes Magazine Exposes Prof Ayittey's Hypocrisy After Mocking Jonathan by lanrefront1(m): 8:25am On Jun 30, 2012
The surprising thing is how it quickly got to the frontpage.......kind of makes you begin to wonder about Nairaland......hmnnn
Christianity EtcRe: “ GEJ To Bankrupt Nigeria” Sermon: Police Looking For Pastor Bakare by lanrefront1(m): 6:12pm On Jun 28, 2012
Billyonaire: If Bakare made that statement in China, but now he would have been imprisoned. Political leaders must at all cost strive to Unite and not disintegrate. Bakare is using his Church as a political rallying point and needs to be shutdown, Freedom of Speech has limitations in every democracy....
Nonsensical stupid one-sided statement. As always, Reno Omokri, only citing things when it's covenient for your own perpective in order to support your master GEJ.

If this was China, Bakare would have no need to make the statement or be labouring to remedy the unbleivable & mindblowing corruption which is PDP & which GEJ Presidency personifies; because in China, all of them including Jonathan would have been executed through a death penalty by now.

By the way, Reno/Beaf/Billionare etc, pls stop spaming the POLITICS forum with further multiple ids. It's a small wonder you ahve not been banned. Makes you wonder what exactly is going on.
PoliticsRe: You Are A Sinking Man, Reps Blasts Otedola by lanrefront1(m): 1:59pm On Jun 18, 2012
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PoliticsRe: You Are A Sinking Man, Reps Blasts Otedola by lanrefront1(m): 1:26am On Jun 18, 2012
thegoodjoehunt:
I agree with most of the things you are saying but your analogy. You are basing your point on Otedola being guilty and tempting FAR-CROOK. If you also take another perspective and look at the whole issue from the point of Otedola being innocent in this whole issue, It takes a different direction.

To mention a few (If Otedola is innocent):

FAR-CROOK doctored the report and put names that shouldn't have been there. Also removed names that should have been on the report.

FAR-CROOK contacted Otedola to bribe him and get his name off the list.

Otedola refused to bribe FAR-CROOK and got his name submitted as one who wasted Nigerian FOREX.

Otedola agrees to bribe the HOUSE OF CROOKS.

HOUSE OF CROOKS all agree to remove his name.

Otedola shows that he gave them ODE-DOLLAR (Fake Dollars-Dollars that doesn't make sense). grin grin


From this perspective you will understand why many feel the subsidy should not be taken seriously.

My recomendation, a fresh and thorough probe should be done with an independent group made up of credible people.

CBN should also be forced to make their own investigations and give account of how the so called SUBSIDY money got missing.
PoliticsRe: You Are A Sinking Man, Reps Blasts Otedola by lanrefront1(m): 1:25am On Jun 18, 2012
thegoodjoehunt:
I agree with most of the things you are saying but your analogy. You are basing your point on Otedola being guilty and tempting FAR-CROOK. If you also take another perspective and look at the whole issue from the point of Otedola being innocent in this whole issue, It takes a different direction.

To mention a few (If Otedola is innocent):

FAR-CROOK doctored the report and put names that shouldn't have been there. Also removed names that should have been on the report.

FAR-CROOK contacted Otedola to bribe him and get his name off the list.

Otedola refused to bribe FAR-CROOK and got his name submitted as one who wasted Nigerian FOREX.

Otedola agrees to bribe the HOUSE OF CROOKS.

HOUSE OF CROOKS all agree to remove his name.

Otedola shows that he gave them ODE-DOLLAR (Fake Dollars-Dollars that doesn't make sense). grin grin


From this perspective you will understand why many feel the subsidy should not be taken seriously.

My recomendation, a fresh and thorough probe should be done with an independent group made up of credible people.

CBN should also be forced to make their own investigations and give account of how the so called SUBSIDY money got missing.
I had to go and read my own post over again. There is nothing in my post that says I'm basing it on Otedola's being guilty. I never said Otedola is guilty. Yes I did imply that Farouk might have been offerred the bribe by Otedola (persoanly I believed this is what happended; like another person said, Otedola is by no means the kind of man that Lawan will think he can cow into submission), but he could have refused it. He has that choice. That Farouk collected the bribe money makes him corrupt, greedy and an hypocrite.

Then I did say Farouk should face the law according to the due process of the law. Likewise Otedola too should face the law through due process, personified this time by the probe panel of the Assembly.

I did say the probe needs to be re-done but you cant just throw everything away. Dont forget the real work was done by consultants who are proffessionals e.g. Forensic accountants. Your suggestion that a body of credible citizens should be appointed to do it seems laudable untill you take into consideration that the Executive has no constitutional responsibilty/obligation to listen or implement whatever such a panel comes out with. The House of Reps. however is empowered by the constitution to to tell the Executive what to do.
PoliticsRe: You Are A Sinking Man, Reps Blasts Otedola by lanrefront1(m): 11:11pm On Jun 17, 2012
I dont know why some people are trying to complicate something that can simply and logically analysed.
Now, Otedola in his action of a sting-operation with the SSS and the Reps in their response to the aftermath, ofcourse have reasons apart from the ones they are professing, which can be seen, that is motivationg or propelling them. But lets deal with what can be seen and ascertained for now at face value.

Farouk Lawans either solicited or was offered bribe from Otedola, which he collected, to remove the name of his (Otedola) companies from the list of idicted companies in the subsidy report; let the law takes is due process. If he's found guilty let him face the punishment recommended by the law.

Now that brings into question the removal of the names: and the question is, it seems Otedola's companies should never have been removed. If the reps says let the Otedola's two companies be included back in the list, well it sounds reasoanble enough. If Otedola's companies are innocent, then he has nothing to fear.

Those that are saying the subsidy report should be confined into the dustbin because of the idictmentof Farouk, it is a very dubious arguement and they are being mischeavious.

It is anti-wisedom, senseless, and unheard of in civilised countires to set aside an embezzlement and monumental fraud of N2700 billion (N2.7 trillion) becuase of a collected bribe of N99 million ($620) . [pls note that 1 billion is 1000 million]

Infact the opposite should happen. There is now even a greater reason to focus and beam more light on on the operation of the subsdiy regime. All that is needed is a re-assesment of the probe report by a new panel. Anything that was wrongly left out should be put back inside; anything that was wrongly included should be rooted out. That way, the intergrity of the report will re-ascertained. Then they should be further efforts to unearth more facts.

Like Sky Blue said "let them tear each other apart". It's to the advantage of the masses.

Now let's leave the realm of hardfacts and what can be ascertained and go into logical speculative deductions of the politics going on. Only an idiot or mischieavous person will say the GEJ Executive Presiency and the oil cabals has no hand in what is going on. Without a shadow of doubt, this a sprited effort on their part to kill the probe report and Otedola, including the SSS are tools. Persoanlly I think the below is semblance of what MIGHT have happened:

The powers that be were very angry with Farouk Lawan for his role in the whole subsidy saga, I'm sure the demand or acceptance of the bribe was not originaly his idea.

Someone (not Otedola himself) must first have been sent to approach him. The person acting for the Zenon oil magnate must have discretely informed Lawan that Otedola his ready to pay him a stupendous amount if he can use his influence to take to off Otedola's company of the list of the companies that were indicted in the probe report.

They would have watched and waited for Lawan's next move. Once they saw Lawan was ready to play ball, he would have been told how to contact Otedola; by then the main plan to implicta him swings into action.

The SS would have been contacted by Otedola and informed that Lawan is trying to blackmail him into giving a bribe. It was at that stage the recordings of telephone converstaions and their three meetings will ensue.(Remember the papers said they met at Otedola's house and negotiated the amount over lunch) Since Otedola he's aware that their meetings and conversations are being recorded, he would have steered the conversations in such a manner that will make him appaear helpless before Farouk who is shaking him down for a bribe. This impression would be easily more established, even by Lawan who no doubt will be trying to play hardball with the multibillionaire oil magnate by trying to extort and benefit as much as possible from the shady deal. The Yorubas have an adage: "if we decide we have to eat a frog, then it's better we eat one with egg".

Lawan was given bait; he bit on the bait, swallowed it hook and sinker. He has noone to blame but himself for being so foolish.

And maybe ordinarily he is not a foolish man, but God made him, foolish because He wanted to disgrace him.

Lawan was implicted so easily: like a sheep (not the Biblical sheep) he was led to the slaughter.

Like BALLABRIGGS wisely said on another thread, in a fine condensed slogan which shows the way forward, "if Lawan is guilty, jail and let's move to the next chapter: Who stole the subsidy funds?"
PoliticsRe: The Bribe Femi Otedola Gave Me Has Been Stolen - Hon. Farouk Lawal by lanrefront1(m): 10:09am On Jun 17, 2012
Poster, you should have waited to see a source that can be qouted before you posted. As of now, what you ahve posted is heresay.
PoliticsRe: Farouk Lawan Stuffed Bribe Money Inside His Cap To Avoid Suspicion. by lanrefront1(m): 7:26pm On Jun 15, 2012
jmaine: Poor attempt at saying nothing .. . . . .Try again Sir cool
I did say something; your intellect is just not grasping it.

Lawan is corrupt legislator whose greed was taken advantage of by the Executive in order to kill the subsidy report which exposes the mind-boggling corruption of the Executive.

I am saying Lawan is corrupt. But have no doubt about it; he was set up by the GEJ presidency.

Ask yourself, once the sting operation was completed, why not move in immediately and arrest Lawan. That way, the probe would have continued under another legislator or legislators leadership. But that would not achieve their aim.
PoliticsRe: LIVE: Special House Of Reps Session On Bribery Scandal by lanrefront1(m): 7:01pm On Jun 15, 2012
Really, I don't understand; one the things that should happen is that Otedola's comapny should be back on the list.

This is the accusation agaisnst Lawan: he collected $3 million bribe to take off Otedola's two companies of the list of the companies idicted.

Let both Lawan and Otedola take their matters to the Law i.e let Lawan be invistagted and punished for taking bribe and tampering with the list presented by the consultants who worked on the case.

Let Otedola go to court and prove the innicence if his companies. He is a billionaire, so that should not be a problem for him.

The names of his company should be back on the list because it's now glaring they were removed because of the bribe money collected. Simple

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