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iamoyindamola:
Why are you rushing wait for 39 days na
Abi una wan mobilize more thugs ni

Sorry for quoting your post in the first place. Enjoy yourself.

iamoyindamola:
I have always have my voter's card since 2009 the temporary i got the permanent 4 years ago
I only voted once and i saw violence full blown from agbero that have a plan and succeeded
I know your excuse will be are they apc thugs blabla bla but we know the truth eyes dan clear

Where did you vote in 2019 that you experienced full blown violence?

OasisX:


I can't remember mentioning Obi will win Lagos in my posts this morning. First Post, I said Obi will drag 3rd Position with Kwankwaso. Second post, I asked a simple a question; BAT will lose Lagos to who?

But... he is living rent free in our heads, whereas BAT can only afford to squatting in their heads....... LOL!

No mind Sodiq, he dey play ni

Anyways, God keep all of us alive before and after the election. We will revisit all these analysis after election.

Itsrm:
I believe you are based in Lagos. What's the general mood like? This Obi may win Lagos thing seem to be gathering a lot of steam.

No be this same place they are saying Obi will win Taraba that's in NE that even Buhari didnt win against Atiku in 2019?

iamoyindamola:
Lol
Just because i said emi lokan might not win lagos automatically, i declare obi the winner right?

Oya no vex.

Tell us who will win Lagos if Emi lokan no win. Dont be shy

iamoyindamola:
Thank you that's the goal
Will APC infested thugs allow that, be sincere please?
Will APC allow free and fair election?

When was the last time you voted and who stopped you from voting?

iamoyindamola:
Obi sha
Is obi the only one competing with tinubu
Make una no get heart attack on this man oo
The fact that osun and oyo are not under apc makes the election interesting but obi is the headache na

Stop running more than your shadow now. Nobody is pursuing you.

The discussion on this thread this morning is about Peter Obi, why should we bring Kwankwaso into the discussion when you are all talking about Obi.

You want to talk about Obi, Tinubu, Atiku and the rest and you dont want others to talk about Obi?

Dey play, just dey play

iamoyindamola:
Naso them chest beat for osun
Olule eventually

How many votes did Peter Obi party get in same Osun?

Abi what happened in Ekiti?

iamoyindamola:
Don't rig, allow people vote we should wait and see

Election is just 39 days away, vote and make sure your vote is counted and wait for the result.

OasisX:


He actually made my day funfilled already..... LMFAO!

BAT will lose Lagos to who?

Them say Obi will win Lagos.

Shey you dont know Igbos constitute half of the voting population in Lagos?

Seems today is permutations and combination day.

It's all good.

raumdeuter:
Roland17

I understand to a large extent what the other poster is saying with capitalism and profit maximization

That's why many companies like Apple Google Microsoft Samsung etc the major beacon bearers for capitalism moved most of their production to China and Asia where they can exploit cheap sometimes underage labor and terrible working conditions that wouldn't stand scrutiny of any western nation

If in Nigeria and other developing nations we have to abide by the western nation standards like environmental protection, standard working conditions , wages to match the west. Then our people won't be able to afford it

Where I differ is you refusing to pay for work already done. That is fraud

We are not even talking about working conditions yet because if we do, we will not even finish this discussion.

Like I said before, what you get in Nigeria is cheap labor when you compare our working conditions/salaries and other benefits with other top African countries not to talk of the western world.

It's even the Nigerian companies (mostly start ups) that are incorporating standard work benefits into their employee benefits.

Like you said, it is fraud to not pay people for work they have done. The State Govts owe salaries, pensions and gratuities without consequences, why wont private employers think they can get away with it.

At least a decent labor law will ensure that people get paid for the work they have done.

DontBullshitMe:
I deeply sympathise with your situation and I hope that you get a divine break soon enough.

But the truth has to be said. Nigeria, a struggling, poor, underdeveloped, overpopulated country cannot afford to enact strong labour laws, no matter how painful and depressing it sounds. Strong labour laws will scare off entrepreneurs who are willing to take huge financial risks setting up businesses and factories. Apart from the discouragement it will instill into entrepreneurs, it will also kill the little industries we have because Nigerians are very indisciplined, undutiful, and too entitled.

Bring strong labour laws into this country (which is impossible by the way) and watch how the little factories and industries will pack up before six months. Then, you have worsened unemployment rate and the cheap products you buy in the market disappear.

Also, you talk about Lebanese and Chinese and it sounds so embarrassing. Those guys are the real life savers of Nigeria's economy. They take huge financial risks setting up factories and producing very cheap items to the Nigerian market. Remember that they have no safety net, many of them have started industries that eventually resulted into huge financial loss, nobody cares.

Look at all Nigerian big men, they always go for the low risk sector like Petrol stations, hotels etc. Lebanese and Chinese will set up a high risk factory, employing thousands and producing cheap products. Yet you still dislike them. Abeg.

The country is overpopulated, the only competitive advantage we have is our cheap and exploitable labour. If Nigerians didn't want this, they should have kept their population around 40-50m so the oil money can go round like the Arab countries.

I dont even know where to start replying you from.

How you people are equating non payment of salary to cheap labor is what I really dont understand. It's not as if Nigeria labor isn't cheap already.

Let's kuku allow employers to do whatsoever they want.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Thank you bros

Thank you everyone for the mentions. The birthday done come, e don go.

GloriousGbola, i don come back since.

Larride, so sorry for your travails. Hopefully, you get a better job. Its one thing to win a court battle. Its another for the verdict to be obeyed[/color]

Thank you bro.

DontBullshitMe:
The whole essence of Capitalism is exploitation of labour. The truth is : for Nigeria to become industrially competitive, labour will still have to be exploited far more than they are experiencing presently.

Economy is down, Zero jobs. Una say make Nigeria enact strong labour laws. Who go invest capital in a (clearly underdeveloped) country whose Government cherishes labour more than the owners of the chain of production?

Dey play. . .

Theres a difference between cheap labor and refusing to pay your workers your agreed wages. It is this mindset that you have and people like you that allow these Lebanese, Chinese and the likes to take advantage of our people.

The country is currently on cheap labor anyways but we need laws to at least protect employees from employers that still want to take advantage of their workforce because theres no solid labor laws to use against them.

Look at most state govt that are owing several months of salaries, most of them are not even paying the minimum wage yet are still owing several months of salary.

Please what do you call that?

Emaprince:
wow... sorry about that man.

How both govt and private outfits will hire workers and owe them their salaries for so long amazes me. These people get mind. Smh

It's pure wickedness.

obainojazz:
Arghh pregnant wife…

You don marry and I still Dey here… I hope your company comes to their senses sha as those guys are greedy in Nigeria

I don marry since early last year now. I'm in my early thirties. We suppose don dey move the ministry to the permanent site.

iamoyindamola:
Haa
I will cause trouble walahi
It's well bro

Imagine those wey government dey owe for 24 months. How them take dey survive.

Walai olopa ma ti ko everybody.

iamoyindamola:
You guys are trying o
So how are you holding up in this country even the salary is not enough

It's not easy walai and I even have a pregnant wife.

Thank God for side gigs here and there

Ibime:
It's possible that those expansion efforts have led to cash flow problems. It happens, however it is incumbent on the company to collect a loan to satisfy it's working capital requirements, of which salary payments should have the utmost priority. In Nigeria, it seems wages are the first to go when any company or entity is having cash flow problems, which speaks to weak employment choice, poor labour laws and impunity.

Yes and that's why I said we need better labor laws.it could've been another thing entirely if we were paid in November. The last salary we received was October.

They promised they will pay Nov and Dec salary before Christmas in the early weeks of Dec when Nov salary never show only to start telling us another thing entirely this year.

afrodoc2:
Low mood. Feeling sad, empty, hopeless.
Poor sleep
Social withdrawal (from both family and friends)
Loss of motivation to do anything and inability to maintain concentration
Anhedonia (inability to enjoy activities that normally give you pleasure)
Sleep disturbance
Thoughts of doom and feeling suicidal.

Many people will know if they are depressed but for some it is the people around them that first notice a difference in their behaviour.

There are diagnostic tools used in diagnosing depression depending on the individual patient.

Oh thank you.

I know if emptiness and hopeless because I have felt that way before, that's why I told Donj that if you are depressed, you will definitely know as your behavior will change.

Make God help us.

patrickmuf:
That bumpy contract finished Martial...

He has lost his hunger for the game...

Abeg abeg abeg

Dey happy say boys never ask for refund for Martial form wey them buy from you.

GloriousGbola:
I am sorry about your experience. This is why I was saying the other day - HR is not your friend. The sole purpose of HR is to protect the company from staff repercussions

I actually do not believe what the HR said, we do have our own theory but we are just observing.

Our accountant was arrested in early December then sacked few weeks later. Something is definitely amiss but they are not forthcoming about it and whatever it is, he no suppose delay our own salaries.

Imagine go through the festive period hoping you will see alert but nothing came through.

CrystalTiger:
Very stupid fellow.. Almost eight years in a club and no one regards him as one of the leaders in the team

I just hope we move on from him asap

Donjazet2:
It's funny seeing you list out these things as potential causes.

But seriously, can depression be accurately diagnosed? Like, how does someone know if he's depressed or not? Can a doctor know if someone is depressed? What are the unique symptoms?

If you are depressed you will know. I really dont know how to explain it but you will definitely know if you are.

Maybe doc can elaborate on possible symptoms to watch out for.

BlueRayDick:
I will suggest u get a bigwig lawyer like dem Femi Falana or upcoming activists like Inibehen Effiong. They will probably not burden u with high retainers hip fees but expect to get something out of the Compenasation u will be awarded by the court.

Some of those companies are just plain evul and u will see their promoters spending millions over the weekend at parties and charity donations.

That's the plan.

We just want to give them the chance to do the reasonable thing before we drag them through the mud both on social media and through the court.

HR practically told us we should just manage and bear with them that it was the expansion and its infrastructural needs that's causing the salary delay. I havent heard tha kind of excuse before.

Tumblr:
Lol. I’ll have to admit we don’t have a good record against spurs when they are playing at home in recent times, so a draw against them won’t be a bad result, even though I’m very hopeful for a win.

Some teams needs to ‘humble’ Man U fr and I hope it’s Crystal Palace

Keep hoping though

Tumblr:
Oh....

I’m happy that Man U won yesterday. Made my team maintain the 5points lead. And there’s a possibility that we could go 8points clear at the top. So, thanks for that.

Well I'm certain you will lose to Spurs today while we will flog you at the Emirates. We just need you to do the needful against City for us.

BlueRayDick:
The Labour laws are not the problem, it's the slow judicial process. Check the link below :

https://www.nairaland.com/365622/justice-t-last-supreme-court

Sacked lecturers got justice after being sacked 10 years before the final judgement. 3 of the sacked workers even died in the course of the 10 year legal battle. That is why u will see people rather focus on getting new jobs after being sacked unjustly than pursuing justice in a law court.

I'm currently dealing with one case like this. The company I work for hasn't paid us since Nov.

Infact the company hasn't resumed this year because we have all refused to work and demanding our unpaid salaries. Infact most of us have our resignation letter in hand, we just want them to pay and we resign.

The annoying part is that they are expanding their branches while owing salaries of most of their workforce.

The plan is to initiate a class action suit by the end of the month our salaries are not paid by then. Already on the look out for other opportunities. However long the lawsuit might be, better to test our laws against these private employers than just resign to fate.

We need to strengthen our labor laws tbh. The way some companies are moving mad is unexplainable.

Once companies start getting class action suit, maybe just maybe we will have some sanity back. Ditto for State Govt that refused to pay their workers their due wages.

Employees should be able to initiate class action suit against the govt.

CrystalTiger:
E no get club wey we fit scam with Martial? Even championship or bundesliga, make him just dey go abeg...

Watching the first 45mins again, even Bruno was coming to do CF pressing for am..Even when fans were having a go at him, yet he didn't bulge..

Tufiakwa..

Martial "I don't care attitude" is one of the reason I want him gone so badly. I just hope we will count our losses and move on in the summer transfer window.