₦airaland Forum

izzou:
[color=royalblue]But then, at least you can agree that the FG could have responded to this better

I'm not talking about the poor health system (that one don dey before Buhari come sef)

I'm talking about nipping this in the bud earlier[/color]

FG plan was to do target testing while keep things as normal as possible.

Our problem started with the elite or rich class who refused simple instruction of self isolating. This is getting out of hand because of irresponsible citizens who came back from high risk countries and failed to self isolate thereby putting other people’s live in danger.

Let’s take example of how the Medical director at UCH got the virus. A woman who is actually a doctor came back from UK with her son, she failed to self isolate and took her child to her day care. The child fell sick and was rushed to UCH, she lied about her travel history and told them the son was battling with malaria. It was after running test that they discover the child doesn’t have malaria and they took the son for testing for Covid-19 and the result came back positive. In the process he infected the medical director at UCH. Do you even know how many people would have gotten it from those 2?

raumdeuter:
larride

who could this be

https://www.nairaland.com/5769774/coronavirus-high-ranking-member-buharis-cabinet

I’m not sure. It’s probably a lie.

We will know in the coming days.

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Embrace technology?

You think the problem is those who have white collar jobs?

There are people who survive with what they earn daily. Food vendors, hawkers, cobblers and the rest. How will these people survive?

We cannot just copy the idea of lockdown because 'Everybody is doing it'.

I just pray this 2 weeks flattens the curve. If not, people will begin to come out to survive. Maybe na this lockdown go start the revolution sef[/color]

That’s the idea, to flatten the curve and stop the fast spread of the virus.

I have said at this period, what govt needs is advise and alternatives on what to do.

Lagos State govt says they are partnering with food vendors from Mike 12 and the likes to start an app where you can order for food stuffs and it get delivered to your house.

They have also launched the food market farm using schools in areas.

What are the better alternatives, please share.

raumdeuter:
I still paid my bills this month so I don't know if they are.

I read that in some cases they can let you carry over the payment without cutting your utilities but you will still pay in the future

Even yesterday, IKEDC says there won’t be disconnection throughout the lockdown period.

Victornezzar:
Where are the Billions of naira being donated going to

Where are the budgets for Health going to

Do you know we have 5 testing lab in Nigeria before. Now they have set up the one in Abakaliki and have started working on testing lab in Kano, Kaduna, Port Harcourt, Maiduguri and the likes. You think it’s going to be easy to ramp up capacity with about 12 billion Naira that was donated? Do you even know how much it will cost in $?

We need so much more than what we have currently. Even if you have the money, where will the supply come from?

Even the Almighty US had to invoke the Defense Production Act to force GM to start making ventilators. It’s that bad all over the world.

gensteejay:
What about lecturers in colleges of education, who are yet to be paid? Are they part of ASUU as well?

I recall last month when the lecturers that have joined IPPIS in polytechnics and colleges of education and few ones in universities got paid for February around March 16–17, there were deductions in their salaries, and their pay was much lower than normal.

That development significantly discouraged others from joining the scheme, and those that are already part of it don't want to continue any longer.

ASUU is the cause of all the issue surrounding salaries in the FG education sector.

FG through IPPIS is deducting all taxes, levies and the likes from the salary before paying. I think that’s why they are not getting their full salary.

odizeey:
On twitter?

You were saying?

afrodoc2:
I had this debate with my mum recently and funnily enough I was more on the side of loosening the lockdown while she wanted a tight lockdown.

There is no perfect answer. We are between a rock and a hard place, between the devil and the deep blue sea.

The lack of an established social benefits system and the relatively high rate of poverty in Nigeria means the government is torn between allowing disease to kill its citizens and leaving the people to starve to death.

I don’t know what the answer is, but all the options seem painful.
You do have a point about a younger and less obese society in Nigeria, with lower rates of smoking, chronic respiratory conditions, cancer, and likely diabetes mellitus, ischemic heart disease.
However 0.2% (if we are that lucky) is still about 200,000-250, 000 people.

Nigeria’s Egungun has to be extraordinarily careful.

The same Youth Ibime is hoping on are the crackhead that has tramadol and other hard drugs are like water to them.

The same ones that drinks anything and smoke like their life depends on it.

Ibime no know wetin Dey sup.

gensteejay:
Maybe that applies to only non-academic workers.

Wait you didn’t hear when FG said in Feb that they won’t pay ASUU members that failed to enroll in IPPIS? Why do you think ASUU are on strike?

Victornezzar:
Federal government dey beg for giveaway tooi

And this is funny how?

gensteejay:
Can any country with irresponsible leaders and politicians like those we've in Nigeria cope without going broke?

They've looted all the monies meant for the present and future generations of Nigeria. How will Nigeria not be broke?

When it comes to the masses enjoying real dividends of democracy, Nigeria suddenly becomes broke. But when the polithiefcans want to do what they know how to do best, there are always monies available to steal and buy properties in various parts of the world.

Give alternatives bro. Let me learn from you.

How should the FG go about it.

gensteejay:
Personally, I'm not against lockdown. I don't think any reasonable person can be.

But the bone of contention is, has the federal government been sincere about providing palliatives to help Nigerian citizens in need, who must stay at home and can't go out to work and earn their daily bread?

As I speak now, no power supply in my area in Ibadan.

Federal government workers haven't been paid their March salaries yet.

Last month, most federal workers, especially those in tertiary institutions, got their (reduced) February salaries around March 16–17.

The so-called government initiative, where Nigeria's poor are given a certain amount, looks "audio". The indigent people I know here in my area in Ibadan, or even around my hometown in Ogun, say they didn't hear anything about the scheme registration.

How long will Nigerians survive staying at home under harsh conditions?

Lockdown alone can't do much in combating COV. It should be combined with mass testing and isolating and treating confirmed cases.

Which FG workers hasn’t been paid? Even Corp members that they usually paid last have being paid.

Nigeria has a population of 200m+.

Number of those with BVN is 40m+

Our National budget for 2020 is 10.5 trillion.

Oil benchmark was $50 at an output of 2.1m p/b

Oil is our major source of revenue and even at that, we plan to borrow over 3trillion to finance the budget.

Now oil is selling for as low as $20 p/b while production is at 1.7m barrel.

Everyone is saying govt should isn’t giving any palliative measures to the citizens and when you ask how should they go about it and where will the money come from, no answer.

If Govt decides to give out 10k each to those that has BVN, Govt will have to part away with 400billion. What then happens to the remaining 160m+ people without BVN?

It seems most people don’t know Nigeria is BROKE.

raumdeuter:
The purpose of lockdown is to slow down the spread until a cure is found.

Without the lockdown 5million people will be infected and how will the hospital cope?
If there is anything close to the deaths we are seeing in Italy, Naija won't find it funny

This is a new disease that even the best health systems in the world are scrambling and looking like idiots

The same Nigerians who said the Corona thing was a scam a few weeks ago are now saying why didn't the FG lockdown earlier now saying they cant stay at home

I read the first page of the thread homepage about the protests and I see that many people just want a reason to wail cos of political leanings

Bros no need. Lets just be looking, cases are already rising fast as testing capacity is being ramped up. Until people starts dropping down sick/dead outside and nowhere to treat them before they know the danger of what’s happening.

Shebi FG wants to start opening market by 10am - 2pm now, we will see what happens.

For those interested in applying for the NIRSALMfb loan, this loan is for small and medium enterprise and households that will be badly affected through Covid-19. You can apply through the following links

https://nmfb.com.ng/covid-19-support/

https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=Csf7VX_ltE2aBDiKkzjKlVKYA3yCioRIjuTmccn4OLtUQTRXT0w2VzBOM0xLOEFSS0gxQ1dDUklWNi4u - This is for SME

https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=Csf7VX_ltE2aBDiKkzjKlVKYA3yCioRIjuTmccn4OLtUM0FQSUI3MjZUM1I1Q1FQUVozV1pFMVBZVi4u - This is for households.

The loan comes with a year moratorium.

Goodluck and stay safe.

Amoto94:
larride I'm from Kogi and I've watched on NTA beneficiaries from my state speaking in Ebira to thank FG for the conditional cash transfer of 5000 .

Those that wants to call it a lie will do so irrespective of how much you try to make them see.

Victornezzar:
How will the Poor get access to this information...

Those links were to pass information on what government is doing.

The poor doesn’t have access to social media.

This is BBC pidgin reporting on National Conditional Cash Transfer as far back as August 2018.


Here is the link for those interested.


https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-45273652

hardeycute:
https://www.nairaland.com/5765897/coronavirus-father-cries-out-over


The name of the Isolation center and State will be out soon.

The man gave his name but failed to give the name of the state the isolation center is in?

Moreover, states govt are responsible for Isolation centers in their respective states. Anyway let’s wait for the full details of the issue.

thorrvik55:
Who are the supposed poor people they want to send money to??

The whole shalaye of sending money to the extremely poor reeks of a new method they'll use to siphon money.

In this Nigeria, those that can be classified as extremely poor, majority of them don't have bank accounts and they don't have any business with banks, so how will the money get to them??

When was the data of extremely poor people in Nigeria collated abeg?

At bolded, the National Social Safety Nets Cordination Office (NASSCO) is the tasked with building of database of poor and vulnerable households in Nigeria. They were set up in 2016.

Go to your local government and ask them how you can enrol in the National Social Register.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thecable.ng/fg-registers-3m-people-national-social-register/amp

https://nairametrics.com/2020/02/10/over-9-million-nigerians-living-in-poverty-report/

https://theeagleonline.com.ng/poverty-fg-establishes-national-social-register-for-poor-vulnerable-nigerians/

https://n-sip.gov.ng/cct/

https://ncto.gov.ng/?doing_wp_cron=1585650388.6735520362854003906250


Information abound on the process the government has been making, you just have to check.

odizeey:
Person dey engage am for balanced yarn

No money but government dey buy car and others.

I like party man on football matters but when it comes to government and their policies, it's a no go area.

I'll like his takes when APC eventually leaves power. I'll wait for that day like the coming of Christ.

Drag the National Assembly anyhow you like sir but the National Assembly is not made of APC members alone. Drag all of them collectively.

odizeey:
Sending money to the poorest households.

Who are these poorest?

Was that how it was done in other nations?

Are you poor?

airmark:
I didn't say he made it yesterday. I only learnt that last december that everyone with guns even licensed, will be arrested if found.

That's why amotekun are also not allowed to carry arms. Do your DD.

What's fake news?

No sir.

No one see the executive order signed by Buhari. The Presidency never announced it. It was a rumor that went around social media which the govt never confirm or deny.

Even the police claimed they are not aware of such order.

Here’s a screenshot and link from what I can reasonable gather.

https://allafrica.com/stories/201906060338.html

If you are in Lagos and you want to get tested for free, the National Institute of Medical Research has started free testing since yesterday.

Because of the lockdown and social distancing, you have to fill form and wait to be given a date to come for the test.


https://nimr.covid.com.ng

Pls fill the form with correct details. You can share it with anyone you know that stay in Lagos.

Stay safe.

gensteejay:
That looks like a good initiative on paper, but I don't know anyone in my vicinity in SW here that knows much about such a program and has registered for it.

It's only seen in the news.

It looks like a party thing, not meant for the common man in need.

It’s meant for the poor of the poor. Mostly those in rural areas. You cannot get poor and most vulnerable through social media or the internet, the best place to get them through to them is through each ward in local government.

There’s also plan to include those that earn daily wage that will be affected during this lockdown.

See screenshot from the minister of humanitarian affairs.

gensteejay:
One can only hope for the best. Nigeria na lost case, we no get proactive government. All we have are looters in high places.

This is where I will exit the conversation.

Stay safe bro.

gensteejay:
What happens after 2 weeks? Will COV only last for the next 2 weeks?

It’s even better that the lockdown is coming at the end of the month where salaries would have been paid. If the govt still need to continue the lockdown after the initial 2 weeks period, they will work out something.

For example during these period, IDP camps will get 2 months good rations in during this period.

Ministry of finance also announced they will pay the poor and vulnerable households of the society through the National social register. The payment will be paid through the conditional cash transfer (CCT). Over 10m people are currently enrolled in the social national register in over 400 LGA.

gensteejay:
I have stated that already from the links above, as recommended by WHO.

Mass testing is the way forward, coupled with isolating and treating confirmed cases.

The lock down alone can't do much.

Currently on Worldometer, the US has over 17k new cases today. They couldn't discover these by testing scanty people as we do here.

But that’s what we are currently doing. Self isolate - develop symptoms - Test - Isolation Center for treatment.

The only difference is that we don’t have the capacity for mass testing. We don’t have the money. Our best bet to beat this is to prevent community spread which I’m praying to God hasn’t happened in Ibadan or even Lagos.

The lockdown will slow the spread and help government to continue the targeting testing. It’s easy to track contact of confirmed cases during a lockdown.

Each state govt. will have to come up with a relief package for resident of their states.

gensteejay:
Can the masses survive this lock down for more than 2 weeks? Or you think Covid-19 will be eradicated in 2 weeks?

The government doesn't have money to buy enough test kits to do a lot more tests, but house of reps and senators could spend millions of dollars on new cars.

Any lock down in Nigeria that goes beyond 2 weeks could lead to a breakdown of law and order, anarchy. Hunger could kill faster than COV.

Calm down bros. There won’t be breakdown of law and order or anarchy.

Lagos State did share food items to Resident of the states today through LASRRA.

What solution do you suggest?

@ airmark

It’s Fake News. Nothing of such.

Egungun be careful starting from tomorrow ooo.

gensteejay:
FG needs to copy the South African government.

You do know Nigeria population is x4 of South Africa right? Where will the money to do this come from considering our current realities?