₦airaland Forum

Neplusultra:
Yes, u made sense, but I still reiterate dat tribea shud marry deir tribes. Its biblical and I know of cases wia it wrecked a lot of havoc, Peace.

And I have explained why such biblical reasons no longer apply to people who have given their lives to the Lord Jesus, as the fear of idolatry or pollution of religion which formed the grounds for such conditions in the first place, would no longer apply!!

Neplusultra:
Just dat?? Y did Abraham insist on Isaac marrying from deir tribe? Y did Samson's parents refuse him marryin from anoda tribe? Dis tin is biblical o! Marry from your tribe. SIMPLE!!!

Nobody is saying you should not marry from your tribe. All that is being said is that if you know you have no intention of marrying from outside your tribe, then DO NOT date anyone from outside your tribe, or lead them on to think you have good intentions of building a future together, only to turn round stylishly to dump them with some silly excuse or on some irrational pretext! when in actual fact, the tribal difference is the reason you back pedalled!

Read Ishilove's post. It makes a lot of sense.

Also, for thise who keep citing Biblical pieces to justify their position, then please note that there are still Jews that married outside their race. e.g. Joseph who married an Egyptian princess, and Boaz that married Ruth, who was from Moab. And all those Biblical conditions existed in the old testament. Those conditions were given to prevent the non-believers from polluting the faith & religion of the Israelites.

In the new testament, those who believe in our Lord Jesus Christ and His work on the cross for their salvation have all become children of God by faith. So, those distinctions about not marrying from other tribes in order not to pollute their religion, would not exist.

Hope this clarifies the issue!

Neplusultra:
Was it not d same Ethiopian woman called Keturah dat was fighting Moses and calling him a useless man?!

Even when husbands and wives come from the same hamlet, they fight themselves. So is that anything new

Apart from that, there is only 1 recorded account of a disagreement between them in the bible. It had to do with the circumcision of their son, i believe.

PoorUgly:
In fact let me answer the question;

Question: Why do Igbos Especially the Anambrarians(not Anambrans) marry from their tribe?

Answer 1: Our women fine die. And they have a tasty fashion sense.

Answer 2: No tribe can cook, ofe akwu, ofe egusi, ofe nsala, ofe oha, ofe onugbu, ona, ngwongwo, nkwobi, ugba, pass our women.

Answer 3: we want the maternal grandma of our children to live nearby for easy omugwo.

Answer 4: we want to speak Igbo well without annoying anyone.

Answer 5: we value marriage a lot, some tribes don't share our marriage views.

Answer 6: we go and solve scarcity of husband problem in another tribe who will come and solve for us.

Answer 7: in fact we are seriously obsessed with ourselves.

Answer 8: we want our values, virtues and ideologies to remain intact.

Answer 9: we are die hard hustlers, we don't want to introduce lazy blood into the bloodline.

Answer 10: our women knows how to take care of a man Wells (inside bedroom inclusive).


We no send you. if it vex you bang your head for wall.

leere!!!

I no fit laugh!!

Na wah!!

Is J12 reading this!

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prettymiss4433:
Na wa oh u guys shud free d poster na,she didn't insult anyone she just asked a question that doesn't call for a quarrel.I understand dat she's worried and pained for her friend based on her aunts experience.u peeps shud pls stop d insult about tribes and individuals nd behave mature for God's sake.No tribe is better dan d other.remember we are our tribe.
Come to think of it,I really dnt know y a man will date a lady for years knowing fully well dat he'll marry one from his tribe,way a height of wickedness,if she wasn't good enough for u after a year,y didn't u call of d relationship?A man shud know if a woman he's bin dating is a Wife material despite her tribe.A responsible man shud know wats good for him he shud seek God's wisdom and direction and not that of friends or family knowing fully well dat dey won't run his Marriage for him. Dat u marry from your tribe doesn't make ur marriage perfect,or make u secure.I know of an igbo man who was killed by his wife who is igbo too wat have u to say about this. I smell pride from some of the anambra posters,remember d bible says dat pride growth before a fall stop trying to justify d wicked actions of an ungrateful Man who didn't appreciate wat he had,I have no problem with the igbos, nd I don't judge based on tribes I judge the personality. My boyfriend is anambran nd I'm not,most non anambra friends get scared for me wen dey hear I'm dating an anambran but d truth is My bf hasn't given me a reason to doubt his luv for me nd I pray to God evryday for his will to be done knowing my worth as a woman and the sacrifices I've put into dat relationship.if eventually he jilts me,which I doubt den I know dats not God's will for me.and if I smell pride, unfaithfulness and dishonesty in him which is a turn off for me den I'll end d relationship.No Man is worth dieing for.

Preach it, sista!!

In fact, you put it across so well when you said: "No tribe is better dan d other.remember we are our tribe. Come to think of it, I really dnt know y a man will date a lady for years knowing fully well dat he'll marry one from his tribe,way a height of wickedness,if she wasn't good enough for u after a year,y didn't u call of d relationship? A man shud know if a woman he's bin dating is a Wife material despite her tribe."

Abeg, help me tell them!

But please try and write in full next time for clarity.

tonychristopher:
It's pointless Bro

They have warped notion about igbo and I am unapolegetic about my igbotic nature


I can't marry somebody that we don't have cultural compatibility


Udo

I see what you mean...hmmnn!

esof1:
Nigerian Pidgin na im be our lingua franca.

I agree!

tonychristopher:
Udo diri gi

Igbo will always marry igbo

Be it from any igbo states be it in southeast and Niger delta

Now. Non igbo

Why are you so keen to marry us while we don't want to marry you ?

Igbo rocks

Nnewi south boy talking
Ndi ogo m na ukwuani ...ana m ekene

Igbo dalu

Hot ofe nsala

Please tell J12 to read what you have just posted here...you really need to enlighten him!

J12:
And who the hell are you to say ottherwise when me who is an igbo man with igbo friends and relations I doubt you don't any igbo person in your life and you're making judgments based on comments made on an internet forum.
Dude get your annoying self off my face

Haba! Na so di matter pain you reach??!!

Bros, open your eyes oh. Nobody is passing judgment on the internet. I have lived in the south-east and I even have a few Igbo relatives. The issues raised here are facts that have been corroborated by your fellow Igbo men on this very same thread!! . So why you come dey vex? If you choose to deny the truth, and wallow in self-denial, that is your own business.

You simply do not have the courage to say the plain truth that many others have stated here in no uncertain terms. Try to educate yourself. And when you are done, abeg swerve!

celeron40:
Nice!...Yoruba girls are busy twerking.

When Yoruba people descend on you now, you will start lamenting. Anyway, na wetin concern me? I go siddon for one corner do referee when the time comes.

Just try to get rid of your ignorance okay?

Hope this helps!

Captain Tolulope Ita, is a 37 years old lady from Ogun State married to an Akwa Ibom State man. They have a family of seven. She schooled in Lagos & attended Igbobi Girls High School and later proceeded to the University of Ilorin, where she got a degree in Computer Science after which she proceeded to the Nigerian College of Aviation Technology (NCAT) Zaria for flying courses and graduated as a pilot and started working with Aero Contractors.

While in Aero, she did her Airline Transport Pilot Licence (ATPL) in the United States; that is a prequalification before becoming a captain and it costs a lot of money; between $5,000 and $10,000. And also did some training in auditing as well as a course in Flight Operations Management and she is presently the Fleet Manager of the Dash-8 aircraft in Aero Contractors.
http://dailyindependentnig.com/2014/05/mysteries-surrounding-flying-made-become-pilot/

Captain Faith Odushola-Boegheim (the first and youngest female to become a captain on Aero’s Boeing 737 jet), started flying in 2000 after studying in South Africa for three years and began her career with Aero Contractors in 2002.

She is married to a pilot with a little girl.

Senior First Officers Hassana and Huseina Edili-Ogaji, have a combined total flying experience of seven years, nearly five of them with Aero Contractors. http://www.jetlifenigeria.com/2013/07/aeros-fly-girls/

Imoleayo Adebule is one of Nigeria’s youngest female pilots. Intelligent, daring, and confident are three words that best describe the tenacity with which she passed through one of the most complex schools in the world – Flying School, to obtain her license as a Commercial Pilot.

Imoleayo has excelled in a profession that is not only averse to people of her gender, but quite difficult even to people of the opposite sex. Having graduated at the top of her class at the Nigerian College of Aviation Technology, Kaduna, she now works with Aero Contractors where she is making giant strides. http://www.bellanaija.com/2012/01/05/a-young-woman-soaring-with-wings-meet-nigerian-commercial-pilot-imoleayo-adebule-flying-the-skies-at-23/

Blessing Liman was commissioned as a Combat Flying Officer alongside 126 others who finished the Direct Short Service Course 2010/2011 Cadets of the 325 Ground Training Group at the Nigerian Air Force Base, Kaduna. Present at the winging ceremony (badge decoration) was the then Chief of Air Staff, Air Vice Marshal Mohammad Dikko Umar who described her training as a 'very laudable achievement'.

Before her winging on Friday, 27th of April, 2012, she and other pilot officers (she was the only female) went for 12 months intensive flight training in various nations of the world -United States, Greece, Belarus, United Kingdom, Pakistan and Egypt. The Federal Government spent billions of naira on the training as $650,000 was spent on each trainee. The team came up with 14, well-trained fighter jet pilots. She enlisted into the Nigerian Air Force in July 2011 and was commissioned on the 9th of December, 2011. After her commissioning, she was nominated for the 2012 THISDAY Award for Excellence.

http://www.nigeriafilms.com/news/21780/33/blessing-liman-nigerias-first-female-military-pilo.html

Captain Bolaji Agbelusi undoubtedly is a woman of history. She is the 8th woman pilot produced in Nigeria, the 5th female captain in Nigeria aviation industry and the first female pilot in Africa to fly an all female crew. She started nursing the ambition of flying at age seven. Married to an Anglican priest for over a decade, she still keeps her home while actively flying.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200904280616.html

Captain Chinyere Kalu former MD of NCAT began her career in 1978; she obtained her private pilot license from the nation’s premier aviation college. She had, before this, attended the prestigious Leadership and Citizen Course (SS88) Sea School, Lagos in 1973. burning with passion for excellence and self-development, Kalu, who is a member of the African Women Leaders Think Tank Group, has over the years, undergone so many leadership training programmes at home and abroad. She is also a Member of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (MFR) 2006; Member, Nigerian Women Achievers HALL OF FAME; African International Achievers’ Merit Award 2007; Rare Gems Professional Achievements Award 2007; Member, Nigeria’s 50 Greatest Women of Democratic Administration of Ghana 2012. http://nationalmirroronline.net/new/captain-chinyere-o-kalu-nigerias-first-female-pilot/

She was also trained as a Private and Commercial Pilot, SP.12 Batch, NCAT, Zaria in 1978. She later qualified for her Air Transport Pilot License (ATPL) Course with Bolivia Aviation, Memphis, and Tennessee in USA. She was also trained in Aircraft Accident Investigation and Prevention Course, at Federal Aviation Administration, Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA. She was also trained as Flight Instructor’s Rating, Civil Aviation Authority, Oxford, United Kingdom. And then she was also at Commercial Pilot License (CPL/IR), NCAT, Zaria.

- See more at: http://www.mynewswatchtimesng.com/day-became-pilot-onyenucheya-kalu/

Women from different parts of Nigeria have performed well in aviation.

J12:
Igbos marry outside of their tribe more than other tribes do. Thats the crux of the matter

And where did you conduct this census? Who verified it? Just because a few inter-tribal marriages occurred within your own family, you now think it has become the standard operating practice among every clan and kindred in Igbo land??

Just swerve..abeg!

J12:
Half of the Igbo population don't live in the south east. So don't bring any alaigbo talk here that you don't know crap about.

And you should also stop living in denial and stop pretending like you don't know what goes on whenever Igbo people decide to embark on inter-tribal marriages. You are the one out of touch with the norms of your people. So educate yourself.

Ishilove put it beautifully in her piece. Go and read it and stop playing the ostrich.

aryzgreat:
Stop writing rubbish and blaming their mother as if u were there.

Engee married an igbo girl after their mother died, He senior the twins, was it d mother that blocked his marriage too?

Stop listening to too much gossip from linda ikeji blog

Who is blaming the mother? All I said was that their mum disagreed with their choices. So how does that translate into "blaming the mother?"

Some of us know these girls, their friends and relatives and also know exactly what happened behind the scenes, oh.

kelvin100:
You are just making funny insinuations. I swear!
Now it is money and having kids out of wedlock, why not ask Flavor N'abania why he is still unmarried to better understand ones reasons?
Or is it Flavor's mum that is preventing him from marrying too?

Nobody is making funny insinuations. Some of us actually know these girls and what they went through, before they eventually got married to P-Square.

Anita gave birth to Paul's son more than a year before she married him. Lola Omotayo gave birth to 2 kids long before she tied the knot with Peter. If you do not have the inside gist of what went on behind the scenes, consult those that know and stop drawing up funny similarities with other people, where none exist.
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kellystech:
my name is written on the cheque
The account is mine
Yes
No
Late twenties

If you are the owner of the account, then the cheque should clear provided the name on the cheque matches the one on your account and there are funds in the account of the person that issued the cheque, which are enough to cover the amount written on that cheque.

Hope it is clear.

kelvin100:
I asked you because you used 'millions' to qualify when one is ready to marry.

Do you even know what marriage is by-the-way or you think it's something one just jump into because he made some money?

You are still digressing. Most Igbo men will use their financial status as an excuse not to settle down in time with a lady. That is why I made reference to their millions.

If they were not ready, how come they were having kids with these women? Why did they not marry them while their mum was alive? They did not because the old woman objected to those relationships, in no uncertain terms.

Now that she is gone, they have gone to pitch their tent with these same set of women...

Ikenna94:
Guys wats all this fuss about, if we start arguing about issues of inter ethinic or tribal marriages more enemity will be created amongst us. There's no reason to be generalistic in our conclusions, OP every one is not d same and clearly shud not be used as basis to judge others. For me am in d west buh I can't marry a girl dat is not ibo simply because I prefer ibo girls dats it.

God bless you for speaking your mind. Come here and collect a royal handshake, jare.

When you find your Igbo chic call me, so I can follow you for the Igba nku.

kelvin100:
Mikel had millions since he was a teen. Why is he still unmarried?

Ask him. I am sure you know Mikel's address...

We were talking about P-Square oh, in case you have forgotten. Don'T digress.

kelvin100:
They married when they were ready not because their mum passed away.
Was there issues with Anita? Yes or No before or after their mum passed on?

Tell me something I don't know

Oh, they had millions, had dropped hit singles, played to sold out concerts at home & abroad and could afford to live in luxury before their mum passed away. So why didn't they marry these girls, when she was still alive?

There were issues with both ladies, now.. How come the guys were now suddenly 'ready', after they lost their mum who had opposed their relationships in the first place??!

J12:
Its a norm that Igbos marry outside of their tribe. A few folks in my family married outside of Igbo, this trend is also present in almost every Igbo family I know. So whats your point?

My point has been made, but you have refused to see it because of the strange mindset that you have.

It is NOT a norm within Alaigbo, that Igbo people marry outside their tribe. It is the exception. Chikena! So deal with it.

A lot of other tribes also marry within their tribe. To each man, his own.

J12:
Its a norm that Igbos marry outside of their tribe. A few folks in my family married outside of Igbo, this trend is also present in almost every Igbo family I know. So whats your point?

Read my previous post again. It is there in black & white.

byrron:
Y not wait until the alleged igbo guy dumps ur friend and marry an igbo lady before bringing this up since u are so sure that ur friend will be dumped when it has not even happened simply because she Is yet to be proposed to by the igbo guy.

Who even told you that all relationship must lead to marriage?

Can you give your daughter or younger sister this same advice?

Just asking.

kelvin100:
Is Anita an Igbo?
Was she accepted easily or not in the same family?

Now that asks a question about Lola's character!

Bros, I don't think you know the whole story. When did Paul Okoye marry Anita? Wasn't it after their mum passed away?

Was their union formalised when their mum was alive?

When did Peter Okoye marry Lola Omotayo? Wasn't it after he lost his mum?

If her character was so bad, how come he opened his eyes and had 2 children with her....

J12:
If 60 percent of Igbos marry from their tribe and the remaining 40 percent marry from other tribes, I wouldn't call that a norm.
I don't know if you've read the comments of Igbos of this thread but majority of them have refuted the OP's claim by stating that they have various relations married to non-igbos.

Nnewi is just a negligible excuse for your claims, the population of Nnewi people are not more than 1 percent of the total Igbo population. There are bigger Igbo sub-groups that are very open to inter-tribal marriages like the Mbaise and Ngwa people. Hence, the idea of using Nnewi as a reference point makes no sense.

ok, don't even go too far please read the comment of waternogetenemy, bigfrancis1, PoorUgly and so many others like him, before you come back here to start reciting your "it is not a norm" jingle.....

So because a few folks in your family married outside Alaigbo, you want to now prove that this is the standard practice for the remaining 30 million Nd'Igbo that live in Nigeria....hehehe... You should be trying to convince your fellow Igbo brothers that have sworn not to marry people from other tribes, not me.

I am laughing in Greek!

J12:
You also failed to notice the various Igbos who have said they have many relations married to non igbos. I'm igbo, so I'm telling you that many igbos don't marry from their tribe. I also have relations that are married to non-igbos.

If you have other towns in Igboland that follow the Nnewi example, please say them here.

Oga, go back and read all the 15 pages of this thread. Are you saying all the Igbo folks that have stated why they do not marry outside Alaigbo are lying Including the ones that even cited Biblical examples to support their stand?

The fact that a few of your family members married outside Igboland, is an exception. It does not mean it is the norm in Igboland. It does not also mean majority of Igbo people are disposed to crossing the boundaries of Alaigbo to pick spouses, and quite frankly I do not blame them for it. To each man, his own.

Now you are asking me to start listing towns and communities in your own geographical area for you, that follow the Nnewi example? Kai! Obviously, you have lived so long outside the South-East that you have lost touch with the norms of your people....

luggy:
is not true, psquar is from anambra, one of the twin brother marry from yuroba, so think about What ur saying

Guy, abeg swerve....

kellystech:
Sorry I dnt no where to post this,can a cheque from another bank be paid into ur acct in a different bank not the bank dat has the cheque?

Please answer this questions:

1). Is your name written on the cheque?

2). The bank into which you are lodging the cheque, who owns the account? Is it yours?

3). Do the names on the cheque match the name of the account into which the cheque is being paid, in the 2nd bank?

4). Have you ever heard of the term 'clearing operations,' in banking parlance/

5). Finally, how old are you and do you have a bank account?

J12:
If 60 percent of Igbos marry from their tribe and the remaining 40 percent marry from other tribes, I wouldn't call that a norm.
I don't know if you've read the comments of Igbos of this thread but majority of them have refuted the OP's claim by stating that they have various relations married to non-igbos.

Nnewi is just a negligible excuse for your claims, the population of Nnewi people are not more than 1 percent of the total Igbo population. There are bigger Igbo sub-groups that are very open to inter-tribal marriages like the Mbaise and Ngwa people. Hence, the idea of using Nnewi as a reference point makes no sense.

I strongly doubt if you read through all the comments on this thread starting from the very first page to the end, especially those from fellow Igbos who asserted clearly that Igbos marry within their tribe because it is expected, and also for various cultural reasons.

So stop citing this your strange 60% to 40 per cent theory. Where did you conduct the census and who verified it? Nnewi is not a ngeligible excuse. There are several other towns and communities that share the same sentiment as those in Nnewi, especially when it comes to their first sons and first daughters.

Ask your friends and neighbours back in the South-East, if you are still in doubt and stop living in denial.

waternogetemeny:
Judges 14:3 ►

New International Version
His father and mother replied, "Isn't there an acceptable woman among your relatives or among all our people? Must you go to the uncircumcised Philistines to get a wife?" But Samson said to his father, "Get her for me. She's the right one for me."

Numbers 36:3 ►

New Living Translation
But if they marry men from another tribe, their grants of land will go with them to the tribe into which they marry. In this way, the total area of our tribal land will be reduced.

The first comment you quoted came from Samson's parents, and not from the Lord God. There are other instances of Israelites who married women from other tribes and yet their hearts were not turned away from God. e.g. Joseph who married an Egyptian, Moses who married a Midianite, Boaz who married Ruth a Moabitess etc.

Solomon's case was a rather strange one, as his folly lay in marrying multiple wives rather because he could not be content with one.

I asked you a question earlier which you have coveniently ignored: " In this day and age, a lot of people from other tribes are Christians who have given their lives to Christ, and have been washed by His blood through faith in His name. undecided
Does the fact that they are not Igbos mean they are still 'idol worshipers?'

Didn't Joseph the son of Isaac, marry an Egyptian? So please stop using Samson as an excuse. Even in the lineage of our Lord Jesus, Ruth his great grandmother was a Moabitess, and not an Israelite. Rahab the former harlot who helped the Israelites gain entry into the city of Jericho ended up being one of the ancestors of Jesus. She came from which tribe? "

I am sitting here, still waiting for an answer oh!

J12:
The point is - there's no norm in igboland as regards ethnic preferences in choosing a spouse unlike it obtains in other places.
Various Igbos in the thread have given examples of their relatives who married from other tribes and nationalities, that gives credibility to my assertion that we're the least likely to marry someone of the same tribe when compared to the other two major tribes.

If you check the rates and statistics of Nigerians in inter-racial marriages, you'll find out that majority of them are Igbos.

More and more Igbos will continue to marry people of other tribes.
Majority of Igbos don't stay in the east, they only come rarely during festive seasons. This means many igbo children will continue to be born and bred outside the south east, which means the possibility of them (these children) getting married to a fellow Igbo is very slim. Also remember that Igbos are not too protective of their culture and traditions like the yoruba's and hausas.
You rarely see an igbo person born and bred outside igboland speaking Igbo or even wanting to identify with their being Igbo. I've seen many Igbo people say they can't or won't marry an Igbo person (mostly females) for reasons best known to them but you'll rarely see a yoruba/hausa person say he/she can't marry a yoruba/hausa.

Due to these trends peculiar to the igbos, (migration, cultural independence and education) many igbos won't end up marrying a fellow igbo in the nearest future. Igbo to Igbo marriages will reduce drastically.

Anybody who doesn't acknowledge this is lying to himself

You said "there's no norm in igboland as regards ethnic preferences in choosing a spouse unlike it obtains in other places. " I beg to disagree.

Just as you have a few Igbo people citing examples of inter-ethnic marriages within their family, you also have several Igbo folks that have stated they would not marry outside their tribe. And they have given reasons to substantiate this, even within this thread. e.g. from certain expectations given their position as the first son, to so-called 'biblical' reasons etc. In many cases, you would find the latter set of people who prefer not to marry from other ethnic groups, are more than the former.

Unless you have not resided in the South-east for a long time, then you would be familiar with folks especially from towns like Nnewi etc., who make it clear that they prefer to marry within their enclave as a norm.

waternogetemeny:
If Abraham never married the Egyptians then boko haram and isis will never exist. Sarah was a fellow Israelite.

Inter-tribal marriage is not endorsed by God. I don't even want to start with Samson and Delilah. Solomon and how his foreign wife's turned him away from God to idols.

Stop being so melodramatic. In this day and age, a lot of people from other tribes are Christians who have given their lives to Christ, and have been washed by His blood through faith in His name.

Does the fact that they are not Igbos mean they are still 'idol worshipers?'

Didn't Joseph the son of Isaac, marry an Egyptian? So please stop using Samson as an excuse. Even in the lineage of our Lord Jesus, Ruth his great grandmother was a Moabitess, and not an Israelite. Rahab the former harlot who helped the Israelites gain entry into the city of Jericho ended up being one of the ancestors of Jesus. She came from which tribe?

God did not endorse marriage with 'idol worshipers', but He was not against other tribes. Was He not the one who created those other tribes or were they created by the devil?

Free your mind, please!

Mrbigman1:
Must every relationship lead to marriage?

Samson in the bible, do u remember him?
He left the Hebrew for a philistine and that was the beginning of his end.
It's always good to know the family background of who u wanna marry, not every body u see in church or on the street is worth keeping at home.
Some re just not even good enough to see ur home, a short time in a hotel would do.
Phew!!!

Moses married an Ethiopian woman in the Bible, yet he still spoke to God one on one, and received the 10 commandments from His hand.

Bros, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing oh...