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Politics › Re: No One Will Steal Under My Watch – Buhari by laudate:
uncle005:
Can you point one crime of Tinibu that require jail sentence?
Bros, are you living on Mars?? Read this report here:

Point Blank News: http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/tinubus-massive-looting-of-lagos-uncovered/


Tinubu’s Massive Looting Of Lagos Uncovered…The Chagoury, Remi Tinubu Connection

The massive looting of Lagos state by the Leader of the Action Congress of Nigeria, Asiwaju Bola Tinubu has reached monumental proportion. Tinubu whose companies recently conered a multi billion road construction job in Ogun State, has in his pocket all the juicy contract in all the Action Congress’ states.

In retrospect, it might be difficult to come to terms with the fact that an individual could hold the entire south west to ransom. There is no doubt that Tinubu has succeeded in buying the Lagos State government, and he has done this using government funds. undecided
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Whenever someone in Lagos begins to wonder where their 4th mainland bridge went, or what was the fate of the pipe-borne water project, or even where the schools and hospitals had vanished to, there is a silence that contains it all. The largest landlord in Lagos has done as he has pleased, and the rest of the state just has to deal with it. shocked

For instance: Number 4, Oyinkan Abayomi (formerly Queens) Drive, Ikoyi: A 5-bedroom detached house on one acre of land which was originally the Lagos State Governor’s guest house since 1979, but which now belongs to Tinubu. The certificate of occupancy of the property valued at N450 million was signed and released to him by Fashola in 2007 shortly after he assumed office. angry

Tinubu’s residence at 26 Bourdillon Road, Ikoyi was initially falsely presented as Oando Plc Guest House. Later, he purportedly bought it from Oando, and used public funds to rebuild and renovate it. The Lagos State Government bought the property and paid an undisclosed sum to him and thereafter gave the property back to him under the bogus Pension Bill he signed to law shortly before he left office in 2007. The property is worth over N600 million. sad

The annex of the Lagos State Guest House in Asokoro, Abuja was bought by the State Government in 2006 for N450 million, purportedly to protect the main house from security breach. Shortly after Tinubu left office, the property was transferred to him under the pension plan he signed into law before leaving office.

The 250-hectare land valued at about N35billion and strategically located at the Ajah junction on Lekki Road was initially meant for a General Hospital for the people of Eti-Osa Local Government but was stolen by Tinubu and handed over to Trojan Estate Ltd – a company owned by Deji and Wale Tinubu – to develop as Royal Garden Housing Estate at the expense of the taxpayers of Lagos.

The 1,000 hectares of land valued at about N75billion located at Lakowe near Abijo at Ibeju-Lekki Local Government and given to Lekki Concession Company (LCC) which is partly- owned by Tinubu and Fashola and being developed as golf course and housing estate by Assets and Resource Management Ltd (ARM) as ADIVA project.

The prime land of 157 hectares with 2.5km of Atlantic beachfront valued at about N10billion and stolen by Tinubu from the communities of Siriwon, Igbekodo, Apakin, etc in Ibeju-Lekki Local Government and given to Ibukun Fakeye – his crony to build a golf course and luxury villa with little or no compensation to the villagers. In addition, Tinubu paid $20million (N3billion) out of public treasury to Ibukun Fakeye to commence the project in late 2006. Fashola has since released additional funding for this project, which is not owned by the state government.

The 14-hectare Parkview Ikoyi Estate foreshore land reclaimed by Lagos State Government is now owned by Bola Tinubu.

While in office, he allocated to himself the former Strabag yard beside the Lagos State Secretariat at Alausa, Ikeja. The property is now being developed into a shopping mall as big as the Palms in Lekki. This is public property brazenly stolen and now owned by Tinubu, aided by Fashola.

The choice property at Lekki-Epe road on which he built and owns the multi-billion Naira Oriental Hotel and the extension of multi-storey car park beside it. Also, the multi-level recreation centre by Mobil in Oniru Estate on Lekki-Epe road jointly owned with ARM and Tunji Olowolafe. All these assets valued at over N25billion were obtained without paying a kobo to the Lagos State Government.

Tinubu and Fashola sold the following prime Lagos properties to their personal friend and front – Prince Dipo Eludoyin at very ridiculous prices:

• The 3.8-hectare of land of Lagos State Fisheries office in VI (beside the Institute of Oceanography) valued at N3billion.

• The fishery landing jetty at Badore (where the Ilubirin fishermen were to be relocated) valued at N500million

• The entire Ogudu foreshore scheme initially earmarked for a low-cost housing scheme valued at N5billion

• The Ilubinrin housing estate (which used to house Lagos state civil servants and judges up till 2007) valued at N2.5billion.

• The former Julius Berger yard at Oko Orisan, Epe valued at N450million.

Tinubu raised a loan of N4.7billion on Eko Akete project for which nothing was achieved, before he turned around to sell the property to his Chagouri friends of Chagouri & Chagouri and Hitech Construction Ltd at a ridiculously low price at the expense of the taxpayers of Lagos.

Tinubu applied to personally purchase the Federal Secretariat building while in office. When he couldn’t get to buy it, he directed Fashola to stop the eventual owner of the complex to develop it. The complex is presently wasting away courtesy of the Lagos State Government.

It took several months of horse trading and underhand payments before Fashola could allow the new owners of 1004 flats to redevelop the complex. Several other buyers of Federal Government properties and developers of properties in Ikoyi, Victoria Island and Government Reservation Area Ikeja were forced to succumb to the outrageous demands of Tinubu, Fashola, Commissioner Abosede and other officials of the Lagos State Physical Planning Ministry and were made to pay ridiculous amounts to private accounts before their redevelopments were approved. Those who refused or were unable to pay could not develop their properties. This is a major economic strangulation of property developers and has contributed largely to the skyrocketing rent in Ikoyi, VI and Lekki axis. shocked

Tinubu converted all the plots of land where Lagos Polytechnic was located at Ikosi near the old toll gate. He chased away the Polytechnic in 2006 and went ahead to locate the choice plots to himself, his cronies and political associates. The headquarters of Television Continental (TVC), which is owned by him, is located there. He deprived the youths of Lagos of decent education because of his greed.

Tinubu solely sold the prime land on Aboyade Cole, Victoria Island which was recovered from some allotees, to UACN Properties Plc. The amount of proceeds was shrouded in secrecy.

Eludoyin, fronting for Tinubu, built the estate directly opposite Goshen Beach Estate in Lekki area.

Tinubu’s wife, Remi Tinubu, built the massive New Era Foundation youth camp at the junction of Eleko, off the Lekki-Epe express road, with Lagos State funds and has now converted it to personal use.

Tinubu owns the Fara Park Estate and the Beach Wood Estate both in Lekki.

The Critical Care unit at the Lagos State University Teaching Hospital (LASUTH) in Ikeja, built and equipped with state funds, is now owned personally by Tinubu. He has put one Dr. Sikiru Tinubu, (a supposed cousin of his) to run the outfit. It is run as a private unit and the proceeds are pocketed by the duo. The unit charges its users exorbitantly and most Lagosians can hardly afford to pay its high charges. Much of the revenue is derived from fees paid by the State Government for patients referred there by its General Hospitals.

Several prominent Nigerians in the judiciary, police, INEC, and other sensitive agencies have obtained prime land from former Governor Tinubu and incumbent Governor Fashola over the years without paying a kobo. Many of them had turned around to sell the land to third parties at substantial profit.

Many top officials in the police, INEC and the judiciary who participated in the 2003 and 2007 elections and tribunals in states where Tinubu has interest were compromised with parcels of free prime Lagos land and cash.

If the Lagos State Land’s Bureau could publish the names and identities of beneficiaries of land allotees from 2000 to date, the scandal that will result is better imagined. Gbenga Ashafa, now a Senator, and Mrs. Awofisayo were the conduits through which these acts were being perpetrated. Both were also personally involved in various dubious land transactions on their own.
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Celebrities › Re: Rapper Sasha Is So Colorful In New Set Of Photos by laudate: 7:18pm On Apr 08, 2015
Colour Riot! angry
Autos › Re: Superclean & Sharp 06 Range Rover Sport HSE Toks Navigation For Jst 4.8m See Pix by laudate: 6:29pm On Apr 08, 2015
Can it fly for 3.5 million? Kindly confirm?? huh

I asked you this question 2 months ago, and you are yet to provide an answer. You also need to provide details of the location so that we can arrange an inspection. sad
Politics › Re: Jagaban by laudate:
hercules07:
Tinubu might have stolen from Lagos state but it was not via Alpha Beta. Please also note that Okonjo paid debts and paid consultants a high percentage, Alpha Beta helped increase revenue, should they not be compensated?
Oh, and you know this because....? huh shocked

You were Tinubu's accountant? Please share the facts with us. Interested minds want to know! undecided

Okonjo Iweala used consultants, but those consultancy services were widely advertised, and various firms bidded to offer those services before a few were shortlisted, and selected. Also, the terms of reference were clear and precise, and tenor of the job was clearly stated. It did not run on in perpetuity, neither was it open-ended like the one Lagos State issued on a platter of gold to Alpha Beta! angry
Politics › Re: Jagaban by laudate:
naijababe:
There are 11 states on that list, by my count 6 of them are in opposition and you want me t believe that the governors of Sokoto -PDP, Enugu -PDP, Abia - PDP, Akwa Ibom -PDP, Ondo - previously LP, now PDP and Ekiti - PDP are/were members of his kitchen cabinet.
Madam, it is said that there are no permanent friends in politics, only permanent interests. Alpha Beta listed these states as their clients but did not go into detail to state what kind of services they provided to each of these states. For all you know, they may have just filled out the tax forms of about two government officials or one state -owned agency during an exercise that lasted two weeks. How do we know? huh

None of these states have concurred to state that Alpha Beta actually worked for them or made an impact in their finances, so I will take the company's list of clients with a pinch of salt. They listed the Abuja Environmental Agency as one of their clients, yet that same agency has gone on NTA network news and AIT to debunk such claims alleging that Alpha Beta was given the job of collecting parking fees in Abuja and they failed to remit the money. As such, they were suspended from ever carrying out any further tasks for them!

Yet Alpha Beta still lists the Abuja agency as one of its clients and has failed to respond to the agency's comments. sad

Ekiti only fell into the hands of the PDP last year, when Fayose won the election. Prior to that, it was firmly an APC state under Fayemi, who signed on Alpha Beta to please his master!

Ondo was an LP state, but don't forget that two-thirds of the house of assembly are APC members and until the governor finally decamped to PDP two years ago, he had a working alliance with APC stalwarts!

naijababe:
Why not? Especially if it scores a political point and dents the opposition's image......

I am not a shareholder and therefore do not know how much taxes they paid. If they are evading tax, the onus is on FIRS to make them pay, LIRS does it all the time.

I am happy for us to keep debating, I am not a fan of ad-hominem wink
If you understand the way state governments work, you will understand that the wheels of justice swing very slowly indeed. Ask the Attorney-Generals of any state government. They are bogged down by litigation and cases from too many individuals and companies suing the state government over one claim or the other, that the urge to go after a consultancy firm using their name to generate cheap publicity, does not feature high on their list. The cost of legal services and multiple court adjournments in the Nigerian judicial system does not make the option of suing such firms, appealing.

However, now that you have mentioned it let us hope the Attorney-Generals of these states are listening.


naijababe:
I am not a shareholder and therefore do not know how much taxes they paid. If they are evading tax, the onus is on FIRS to make them pay, LIRS does it all the time.

I am happy for us to keep debating, I am not a fan of ad-hominem wink
Hehehe.....I could not stop laughing when I read this comment. Oh, you want LIRS to go after Alpha Beta whose sponsors are the ones holding the reins of power within the Lagos State governmenthuh Do you think the unwary tax official who attempts to do that will keep his job at the end of the day? shocked

Come to think of it, why hasn't the management of Alpha Beta ever come out publicly to dissociate themselves from Tinubu?

This is a classic case of "cunny man die, cunny man bury am" as my Niger-Delta friends would say.....hehehe! cheesy
Politics › Re: Jagaban by laudate:
hercules07:
Alpha Beta took an idea to the state, the internally generated revenue of Lagos was miniscule, they went to the State Government saying they will help increase the revenue of the state for a certain percentage, not meeting the target means they will not be paid, that was the term. Now, I hope you know that Alpha Beta did not collect tax on behalf of the Government, what they did was help identify those evading tax and bringing them to compliance, the state Government was the one collecting the taxes and I can authoritatively tell you that LASG used to owe ABC a lot, Tinubu might have stolen from Lagos state but it was not via Alpha Beta. Please also note that Okonjo paid debts and paid consultants a high percentage, Alpha Beta helped increase revenue, should they not be compensated?
AlphaBeta identified those evading tax and brought them to compliance. Was this service thrown open to a commercial bid and were other consultants allowed to also bid for the same job? How was Alpha Beta shortlisted and selected? What was the tenure of their contract? huh huh

A consultancy contract is NOT open-ended neither does it exist in perpetuity. If they actually brought tax defaulters to book, then it means that the tax officials working for the state government were inept and they should be fired,as this is their statutory responsibility. Why did the state government not empower its own officers to carry out this duty? sad

If as you say that Alpha Beta's brief was to bring non-compliant citizens to book, why has it never published the list of tax defaulters and stated how much it has helped govt retrieve from them? Under international standard practice, a debt recovery agent only earns a percentage of whatever amount of money it has actually or physically recovered on behalf of its client. This is not the case in Lagos. Alpha Beta collects a percentage on ALL the amount paid as tax in Lagos State, whether or not it had anything to do with the collection of those taxes, irrespective of the sources of such taxes! Talk to LIRS officials! shocked

In standard practice, the percentage collected by consultants decreases in inverse proportion to the amount collected on behalf of the client. This is clearly NOT the case with Alpha Beta. If it was true that the company helped Lagos State implement an improved method of revenue collection, then it should implement the model, train the tax officials to execute it and LEAVE, this is not an exercise that should take forever. So what is Alpha beta still doing there? shocked undecided

Tinubu has not come up to even deny all the links he is alleged to have in Alpha Beta, so why are people holding brief for him??
Politics › Re: Jagaban by laudate: 11:55pm On Mar 31, 2015
Shollypopzz:
It was Awolowo's goal to build Action Group into an effective nationwide party by making alliances with ethnic groups in other regions. That is what Tinubu is achieving with APC.

Union Party lost to Shagari, Action Group also lost the 1959 elections to NPC but APC produced a president.

I am not supporting the folks that think Tinubu's achievements can be compared to that of Awolowo but I see how that comparison can be made. I am yet to see Tinubu's service to the Yoruba people (Excluding Fashola and Lagos)
It was Unity Party of Nigeria (UPN) and not Union Party. sad

Those parties you mentioned Action Group (AG) and Unity Party, fielded a Yoruba man all through the history of the elections. undecided

But APC fielded a Northerner this time around who was able to garner massive support from the North, they did not field a Yoruba man. Would they have recorded the same success if their presidential candidate had come from the South-West? Dunno.

Afterall, SDP fielded Chief MKO Abiola in 1993 and he won. Didn't the party chairman of SDP achieve something significant during that time? undecided
Politics › Re: Jagaban by laudate: 11:41pm On Mar 31, 2015
SLIDEwaxie:
....... The bone breaker is tinubu being selfish... He wanted more money, awolowo didn't use his office to enrich himself. He had the interest of his people at heart and demonstrated it by so many favourable policies. Why do u think his policies in terms of economy was still used today and practiced and taught in universities?

He is like Nostradamus, he is a great philosopher with a perfect foresight.

His only low was that he lived his people too much that he had no real time for other regions.

Pls tell me, what economic legacy did tinubu laid down? What policies did he implement?
man .....
Bros, thank you for putting it down in black & white!! May God bless you one million times on Sundays, for this observation..... shocked undecided angry
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Politics › Re: Jagaban by laudate: 11:36pm On Mar 31, 2015
ilugunboy:
In as much as you are entitled to your opinion .....I will never be a part of your attempt to bring ridicule to the person of Asiwaju Bola Tinubu.....you obviously sound like someone with personal beef for him and have been waiting for this type of thread to surface for you to pour your venom on the man.
I do not have a personal beef with the man! But actions speak louder than words. undecided There is no venom anywhere.

The man's actions say a lot about the kind of man he is. Nepotism, greed, cronyism and bad faith are all traits that typify Tinubu. What is bad, is bad.

Just watch and see..! sad
Politics › Re: Jagaban by laudate: 11:23pm On Mar 31, 2015
Obiagelli:
According to?
According to facts on the ground and investigative media reports which have not been denied by Tinubu, himself.

I have been to Ibeju-Lekki myself several times, and seen the large expanse of land your Jagaban took from the original owners of the land, actively aided by the state government that paid no compensation to them.
Business › Re: Youwin 4th Edition Is Here by laudate: 11:20pm On Mar 31, 2015
fflamingo:
lol, you are wrong here, APC wouldn't want to spoil the good work of creating jobs in the federation at their first year in power.
It is remarkable to note that buhari did continue the works before he was overthrown.
Which work did Buhari continue in 1984 after he became head of state following Shagari's ouster? Did he not cancel the metroline rail project in Lagos?

APC does not know how to be original. They will rename it if they don't scrap it, and make sure they hand it over to their families, friends and cronies to milk dry. cheesy
Politics › Re: Jagaban by laudate: 11:12pm On Mar 31, 2015
Shollypopzz:
Pls!!

Their claims are not entirely baseless. What Awolowo hoped to achieve with Action Group is what Tinubu is slowly achieving with APC.
Slowly achieving?? shocked shocked In what way?? With his greedy antecedents?? Puhleeze!
Politics › Re: Jagaban by laudate: 11:08pm On Mar 31, 2015
naijababe:
Leave story o! As long as APC does not eff up? We will all be alive and well to have this conversation again in maybe 5 years.



Now which is it? The client list is fake or most of them are in his kitchen cabinet?

Fake - why have not been sued or made to remove those are not truly their client(s)?

Half of them are in his kitchen cabinet - Does that include Enugu, Nassarawa, Abia, Akwa Ibom, Ondo, Enugu and Sokoto?
Madam, I am sure you can read. I said "Most"! Or didn't you see that there? Does the word "Most" mean the same thing as "All"? No one said it is fake. But there was no due diligence carried out before this company was selected. The selection was based on nepotism and crony-ism, if such a word exists because those governors were part of Tinubu's kitchen cabinet and signed on Alpha beta just to please him.

The Governor of Nassarawa is an APC guy, so what are you talking about? Only Abia, Imo, Enugu Akwa Ibom are not APC dominated states. So what is your beef? These are just about 4 out of 14 states, oh!

You are talking about a state government suing a company for claiming that it is one of their clients. How many governments have that time & energy to go after such petty claims? In Nigeria? Please don't make me laugh!! shocked shocked

Only you have evidence to confirm that what was stated in my previous post is inaccurate, please take a chill pill and do not argue blindly except if you are a shareholder of Alpha Beta. Maybe, then you can tell us how much your so-called consultants paid as tax to FIRS as well as in all the states where they won contracts.
Politics › Re: Jagaban by laudate: 11:02pm On Mar 31, 2015
SirShymexx:
Don't mind these clowns. This is what happens when you let outsiders define greatness to you, and the bane of the new generation of Yorubas. Rather than qualify the "greatness" in context, and make it a subjective one - by alluding to political greatness. They just threw "greatness" in the air, and are postulating nonsense to defend the blasphemous tripe.

The man hasn't even done anything of note for the Yorubas. And without Awolowo, those talking wouldn't even be educated today. Their parents would've ended up as farmers. grin

I abhor folks who are vacuous when it comes to history, and those who tend to ride in the moment. undecided

Great politician, regardless - and Yorubas need to rally round him. But he's too greedy to be Awolowo.

Bring ya ar.se to the other thread.
Thank you ...help me tell them! angry

Can you imagine....comparing Awolowo to this - whatever his name is??!! Yuk..!

Greed eventually has a way of luring the unwary to their downfall. We will see how it deals with Tinubu in the end.
Politics › Re: Jagaban by laudate: 10:52pm On Mar 31, 2015
naijababe:
Alpha Beta of course! That always come to the fore, Tinubu must have a third of Nigerian states in his pockets undecided

http://www.alpha-beta.net/clients.htm
Yes, just goes to show you all about Tinubu and the power of greed...!! Most of the 14 state governments in that list, are run by governors that are in Tinubu's kitchen cabinet. It would be interesting to know if due diligence and proper procurement process & guidelines were followed in the selection of Alpha Beta as consultants, in each of their respective states! shocked

Abuja Environmental Protection Board eventually suspended Alpha Beta from working for them due to their poor performance.

Am waiting for the outcome of the court case when the real owners of Alpha Beta will be revealed. undecided By the way, how much did Alpha Beta itself, pay as tax after collecting those jobs? Can anybody guess? huh

Half of those they claim as clients, are incorrect. Ask those who have actually worked in tax offices of those listed states.
Politics › Re: Jagaban by laudate: 10:31pm On Mar 31, 2015
Liegeria:
Many have not really read about the 60s, 70s and the 80s. Tinubu is not any where near the mark of excellence that typified Awo's exemplary leadership. They operated totally in different era and both seem to have taken the best decisions appropriate for each era.
Thank you, o jare! You hit the nail on the head. grin

Let us hope the indomie & google generation on Jagaban's payroll, will rise up from their intellectual slumber to do the research...! undecided
Politics › Re: Jagaban by laudate: 10:21pm On Mar 31, 2015
naijababe:
I disagree, we may not feel his impact directly but his decision making and the ability to put square pegs in square holes is what will deliver his impact. If he works with men who see beyond themselves and are able to build institutions, he will not only have equalled Awo but you will agree with me in due course that he surpassed him. And I ad-libed your post too (see bolded grin)
Yeah, the ability to put square pegs in square holes using nepotism and foisting his cronies on others, irrespective of their wishes.

Awolowo provided free education at all levels; Tinubu and his men increased fees at tertiary education level until students in LASU and OOU were forced to demonstrate on the streets, in order to get the decision reversed.

All manner of taxes designed to impoverish the masses are charged in states controlled by the APC, and those taxes are not chanelled to programmes that benefit the people, but into private pockets (especially Jagaban's own), in order to further satisfy his greed. Ever heard of Alpha Beta Consultants? sad

Awolowo constructed roads that stood the test of time, implemented free education, free health care for his citizens, etc;. Did Tinubu and his men implement such programmes, except on paper?

Most of the health care facilities in Lagos are heavily commercialised and almost as expensive as private hospitals. just look at LASU Teaching Hospital in Ikeja where Tinubu's cousin holds sway in one of the most critical healthcare facilities, for example. The only thing that is free in Lagos hospitals is registration. You pay heavily through the nose for everything else i.e. drugs, X-rays, blood, surgical materials, operations, dressing, bed space, food etc.

So when it comes to service to the people and meeting their needs, in what specific area is Jagaban better than Awolowo, please? huh

In the area of chicanery?? shocked shocked
Politics › Re: Jagaban by laudate: 10:01pm On Mar 31, 2015
naijababe:
Ilugun, I can debate this point till eternity with you! He is greater than Awo already trust me, some of us are just unwilling to admit it just yet. My only grouse with him is his capitalist tendencies, make dem allow poor small abeg!
How old are you? Lemme guess.....you were born in the 80s and failed to do your research on Awolowo?

That is why you are making this fake assertion, that is totally lacking in depth, analysis and intellectual rigour on this forum?
Politics › Re: Jagaban by laudate: 9:57pm On Mar 31, 2015
Desola:
Please appreciate this genius.

Say something about him
Jagaban - a name synonymous with greed, pocketing of Lagos State treasury and rabid nepotism. sad

Ask the people of Ibeju-Lekki whose lands he grabbed to describe him better. They will use some of the most colourful phrases you have never heard before, to do so.
Politics › Re: 2015general Presidential Election Results So Far - APC Leading As It Stands by laudate: 1:42am On Mar 31, 2015
Some Nigerians are still clueless sha. Aregbesola has been owing civil servants for months, and they are still voting for his party in Osun.
Chai! Some people enjoy wallowing in suffering...! shocked
Politics › Re: Aisha Buhari,the Teenager That Married A 48 Year Old by laudate: 8:34pm On Mar 29, 2015
Ilekeh:
I must have unfollowed this thread grin
Funny how the mods "cleaned" the front page to salvage "babyhoesis" (as they call her) and her wrecked dignity.

Funny how women who marry early usually have sustaining nd lasting marriage.
At least Aisha is not pretending to us on NL.
Oh, exactly when did you conduct a census to arrive at this infantile conclusion that "women who marry early have sustaining nd lasting marriage"? shocked shocked

Who verified it? I have lived in the North and travelled extensively around that region where women marry at a relatively young age, and anyone who makes the kind of comment that you made above, is regarded as either being mischievous or simply being economical with facts.

Yes, those women get married early and what happens next? Many of their husbands marry 2nd, 3rd and 4th wives after them... that is if they are lucky not to be divorced within the next few years after marriage, in cases where their husbands have a roving eye. Only in very few cases, are the wives allowed to continue their education and develop themselves under their husbands roof.

The unlucky ones develop Vesico-Vaginal Fistula (VVF) with urine and wastes leaking uncontrollably from their bodies. In cases where their husbands do not divorce them, they abandon such women to their fate and marry another wife as a replacement. So where does the longevity of such marriages come from? sad


Ilekeh:
I must have unfollowed this thread grin

If an 18 years old is mature enough to marry, why is she not mature enough to choose her mate?

Who are you and the OP to judge her decision? The same decision that has given her a family with beautiful children and a loving husband?

If you need a problem to tame, focus on abusive marriage and boko haram.

YOU DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO TELL ANOTHER ADULT WHO THEY CAN OR CANNOT MARRY AS LONG AS THE CONSENSUAL SPOUSE IS OF MARRIAGEABLE AGE..
Please do not dabble into areas where you have little knowledge about. Who told you that Aisha chose Muhammadu Buhari? Bros, the culture in that region is that girls are married off by their family, to a particular suitor. The girls have little or no say in it! As a young girl, you dare not disobey the patriarchs of your family when such issues arise...unless you want to be disowned. cry

It is only among children of the rich in recent times (e.g. in the past 10 years) that such rules are gradually being relaxed and so-called 'love matches' where the male expresses a preference to marry a girl of his choice, are now being encouraged. undecided

Marriage is regarded as a way to forge alliances, gain acceptance or create ties with external parties, in many of those parts of the North. Love has very little to do with it. Unless you were present when Aisha met Buhari, and you were present when she confessed undying love to him during their initial meeting, which led her to 'choose' him when she was 18 years old , then this assertion you made up here is totally inaccurate, drafted in hypocrisy and riddled with conjecture. shocked
Fashion › Re: See Through Tops/bra Less Tops by laudate: 2:33am On Mar 28, 2015
firstEVA:
I don't have the guts to dress like that, I however salute any lady who can bare it all, it requires a lot of courage.
There is a proverb that says "Dress the way you would like to be addressed." undecided Such outfits depict you as a commercial sex worker. Ask any man in his right senses if he would take a girl wearing a bra less top like the one depicted here, home to meet his mother and tell me what kind of reaction he would give you. If you decide to dress like a hooker by baring it all, then do not be surprised if you get treated like one.

Why is it that every mistake made abroad, becomes a fad in Nigeria? Only women who do not value their bodies, their family name and their reputation, would wear such things in public. Yes, you would attract attention alright, but it would be the wrong kind of attention that will come your way. lipsrsealed

Tomorrow, some feminist dolts will start screaming rape, when they allow their misguided daughters wear such trash in public. Tomorrow, some equally retarded girl will start crying over split milk when a guy who picks her up after he sees her in this kind of attire, uses her as a one-night stand, and refuses to pick her calls the following day after bedding her. sad

I trust my people. No one would let you leave the house like this, without asking if you have taken leave of your senses.
Politics › Re: Aisha Buhari,the Teenager That Married A 48 Year Old by laudate: 11:52pm On Mar 27, 2015
Gbawe:
No. This woman is far more famous and a lot more respected from the old school Nollywood crew. It is not her identity that matters, as I will never reveal who she is, but the fact that many young Nigerians women now have the wrong interpretation of life, like the slag Babywhoresisi, that makes them think a 'fulfilled life' is sleeping around with as many men as possible when you are young, while committing to no one, only for them to be looking down at the likes of Aisha Buhari who married early, and committed to one man, as 'victims' and mumus.

Today Aisha is fulfilled and very happy. She has achieved everything that makes life beautiful, fulfilling and rich. Yet this actress I am talking about, after spreading her azz around, had to desperately settle for a divorced man with many kids. They are still unsuccessful till now in their efforts to conceive. Whereas the ex-wife of the dude goes around saying this actress "broke" their home. All for what? Is that better than a woman who, as a 19 year old adult, committed to another adult and achieved everything beautiful in life i.e kids, family joy, professional fulfilment and the companionship of a man we see she loves and supports from how she is fighting his corner passionately today?
Hmmnn....have you met Babyosisi before in real life?? Where is there so much vile and venom in your post?

And for goodness sake, what part of Babyosisi's post make you believe that she thinks "...... a 'fulfilled life' is sleeping around with as many men as possible when you are young, while committing to no one, only for them to be looking down at the likes of Aisha Buhari who married early"?

People can make their points without tossing out unecessary insults and bile.

A woman who marries early is NOT superior to one who marries late. Life and chance happens to them all. And marrying early, has never been nor will never be the cure for promiscuity. I know several Northern women who married early and still cheated on their husbands. Others just got a divorce and jumped into the hands of the next available man in their area. SO what is the argument about?

My own take is this - a man that chooses to marry a woman who is younger than his first daughter or young enough to be his daughter needs help. He is either trying to recapture his lost youth, or does not place any value on the life and progress of women who are close to his daughters' age. sad

Someone mentioned Omotola Jalade Ekeinde as an example of a South-western woman who got married at 18. True, but her husband Matthew Ekeinde an airline captain was just 9-10 years older than her. They got married when Omotola was 18 and he was just 27 years old. undecided

It doesn't matter if it is Ojukwu or Buhari, both men are wrong on all counts to have married women that are their children's age.

Those in support of such practice, should give their own daughters out in marriage at the age of 18 years, if they feel so strongly about it.

Chikena!
Romance › Re: The Ex Factor, Courtesy Olusola Lanre Coaching Academy: by laudate: 11:17pm On Mar 27, 2015
People break up for a variety of reasons, and each person has to deal with the break up in his or her own way by working through the anger, pain & grief. It is a process that takes one thing - time. Unfortunately, instead of people working through all the feelings of hurt, that come with a break up they jump into another relationship thinking it will make them feel better.

Others try to bury the pain and put on a brave face, thinking they can wish away the pain only to discover that it festers like a sore and will lead them towards a nervous breakdown if left untreated.

As for the last part of the interview, it got me thinking:

Tonway:

Q17. Is it okay to go to the wedding and raise my hand in objection when the priest ask for that?
A17. You would face the consequences of your action, in African you’ll face the consequences. Very critical is, you’ll need to ask yourself “Why do I really want to go for that wedding, what is the purpose for me going?” if you’re true to yourself, the answer would stop you from going, and you know, if you find the answer and you’re not being true to yourself, you need to have people you’re accountable to, good people. Because there’ll be some friends that would say let’s go and see what that girl is wearing, also your companions, friends that you keep may lead you to doom. So you must have a good friend that would give you intelligent advice and give you wise counsel. They said, “In the multitude of wisdom, there is security. It is ignorant that is our biggest enemy” “My own people are destroy for lack of knowledge” so said the bible.
What if the person trying to stop the wedding, is the spouse of one of those getting married? I mean, someone the bride or groom was previously married to, and had not yet divorced legally? Would it still be wrong for such a person to stop the wedding?

Just wondering....
Politics › Re: NDI-IGBO: APC Promises Toll-Free 2nd Niger Bridge by laudate: 10:50pm On Mar 27, 2015
Dominiquez:
Dreamers should not dare us, let them remove the toll at Lekki first.

bunch of thieves.
We don dey tell them since, dem no gree! angry
Politics › Re: GEJ Hates The Yorubas Says This Newspaper Advert by laudate: 9:57pm On Mar 27, 2015
SirShymexx:
............You don't even need to live in naija or be overly observant about naija politics to know GEJ hates Yorubas. Once you look at his cabinet and pattern of his government - it is a giveaway. And the only Yoruba of note there is the Minister of Agriculture and he also happens to be the only shining light in his government - and also the only one they tout as the best minister.
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So Mobola Johnson the Minister of Communications & Technology is NOT Yoruba, abi? shocked So Jumoke Akinjide the Minister of State for the Federal Capital Territory is not Yoruba, too? Or Alhaji Jelili Adesiyan the Minister of Police Affairs is not a Yoruba man from Osun State, too like your Minister of Agriculture named Adesina? shocked shocked huh

Among the current service chiefs, is the Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal Adesola Amosu whose men are flying Chinnok helicopters in the North East to inflict heavy losses on Boko Haram, not a Yoruba man too like Adesina?

When South Africa was performing its nonsense claiming that Nigerians were travelling with fake yellow fever certificates, and Britain also wanted Nigeria to deposit thousands of pounds with their High Commissioner as part of their visa entry process, who was the Minister that clipped their wings, back then? Was it not the late Olugbenga Ashiru an Egba son who was the Foreign Affairs Minister under GEJ? undecided

Why do you people like peddling half-truths and petty propaganda, for goodness sake? Or are you trying to say some Yoruba people are more superior to others? mtcheew

Honestly, you people have short memories.....
Politics › Re: GEJ Hates The Yorubas Says This Newspaper Advert by laudate: 9:47pm On Mar 27, 2015
OLADD:
Your senile and unknown parents have just wasted their entire livelyhood in educating an animal like you. The president never abused the generality of yorubas but he indeed directed the said statement to Tinubu, Fashola and their fellow conmen whose actions and attitudes are nothing but rascally . Ironically, in your absolute stupidity, you did not mention the statement credited to Tinubu where he described Yoruba Obas as untrustworthy. Your absentmindedness does not avail you the opportunity of recollecting how the same Tinubu connived with some disgruntled elements in the House of Representatives to deny the southwest of Speakership position. The ongoing Ibadan expressway reconstruction project, is it not in the southwest? We know those who are working against the interest of Yorubas, certainly it's not Mr. President.
Help me tell them, o jare! grin cheesy grin shocked
Politics › Re: GEJ Hates The Yorubas Says This Newspaper Advert by laudate: 9:41pm On Mar 27, 2015
TonySpike:
Some fools here just don't get it. Let us assume that Tinubu didn't scheme away that speakership slot, would this have any effect on this published list? Isn't it obvious that there is a systematic sidelining of Yorubas in this current government? My take on this is that the loss of the speakership position is negligible compared to the reality of this list!
There is no side-lining. Yoruba people are well represented in GEJ's cabinet. How come you Yoruba people have not turned your searchlight on the mess in the APC controlled states? shocked

Fayemi lost Ekiti state due to his failure to pay civil servants their due wages ....only to turn around and spend multi-million naira to build a superlative government house equipped with gold-plated beds.

Amosun charged students of the Olabisi Onabanjo University hundreds of thousands of naira as tuition fees, yet the school remained a glorified secondary school with minimal infrastructure. What happened to the money? He only agreed to reduce the fees after students went on rampage last year.

Fashola, nko? He taxes everything that moves and tolls every major road in Lekki, only to hand over the proceeds of our taxes and sweat to his god-father Tinubu. Fashola increased LASU school fees from N25,000 per student/per annum to N197,000 for Arts and Humanities students, and N350,000 for medical students. He refused to back down on the increase in school fees in LASU, until the students camped outside Alausa and gave him a tough time. angry Tell me, how many civil servants in Lagos can afford to send their children to LASU with these kind of outrageous fees.

Aregbesola the Osun man filled with delusions of grandeur, named his territory 'The State of Osun,' as if a change of nomenclature is the only thing required to bring about true progress. He then wanted to implement a single uniform for all secondary schools across the state, as if that would automatically improve their WAEC and NECO grades! huh

He owed civil servants their salaries for 5 months, until the 2 weeks before re-election last year when it dawned on him and his party, that they could topple him from the helm of affairs, just as Fayemi was overthrown in Ekiti. He quickly ran around to pay the arrears of the outstanding salaries to prevent defeat. sad

Honestly, Yorubas are their own worst enemies.....they should just look inwards for those working against them. We have seen how they have run most of the APC-controlled states in the past 4 years, and honestly we are not impressed.....

Lagos might be the only exception, but even then Lagos State executes projects for 3 times the average cost, that other countries spend in executing similar projects. We understand that the money ends up in private pockets.....
Politics › Re: GEJ Hates The Yorubas Says This Newspaper Advert by laudate: 9:15pm On Mar 27, 2015
kastonkastrol:
very true.... I just pity the gullible yoruba sons and daughters that are being deceived by this clueless president. Was it not the same jonathan that opened his smelling mouth to call the entire yoruba leaders rascals some years ago? Now the man is running amok in odualand because he wants our votes.

How many yoruba sons and daughters are even holding a reasonable position in his government? SMH
And how many Yoruba sons and daughters have sold off their patrimony for a mess of pottage? Your so-called leader Bola Tinubu has taken over entire ancestral lands and various areas in Lagos, all along Lekki-Epe expressway from Abijo to Ibeju-Lekki to Ikorodu, just to fuel his greed.

He has deprived other more qualified Yoruba people of various positions in Lagos, by installing his family members in key positions in an act of unmitigated nepotism. None of his Yoruba brethren have lifted a finger to call him to order. Now he wants to install his stooge as the Governor of Lagos State in order to continue milking the state treasury.... angry

Instead, they are belly-aching over a Niger-Delta man called Jonathan....wonders shall never cease! shocked Under their noses in 1984, Buhari enacted Decree 4 that sent Tunde Thompson a Yoruba journalist to jail, for publishing an article. What did the so-called Yoruba elders do? Now, they want to enthrone the same man that clamped Awolowo, late Olabisi Onabanjo and other Yoruba elders into jail, in the mid-eighties.

What did the late Hubert Ogunde say? '"Yoruba ronu......"
Autos › Re: 2006 Hyundai Tucson @ N1.450M by laudate: 8:34pm On Mar 27, 2015
hailolive:
with 1.6m i can get the tokunbo. so will rather go for tokunbo at 1.6m than a nigerian used for 1.3m
My opinion
God bless you, o jare! undecided You took the words right out of my mouth. That is what I was trying to tell him, before he brought up all the long grammar... sad
Travel › Re: Ascon Filling Station Lekki Phase 1 On Fire ( Pls Call Fire Service) Phote by laudate: 3:49am On Mar 27, 2015
onyenro:
Nothing like arson. they were discharging fuel in the afternoon at the Same time selling to motorists. I saw it start. The fire service responded in about 10min with a small tanker but was very effective After which the police went with their van to get a drum of chemical to douse the fire. Before leaving the scene, the inferno has gone done. well-done fire service.
The Chevron fire truck from the Chevron Head office along Lekki-Epe Expressway also responded. I saw them dashing out towards Lekki Phase 1 just as I going down the opposite direction. They sprayed some kind of chemical compound to also put down the flames.

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