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Blue3k:
Ok I heard you made mistake with term case closed. You don't need to write allcaps to scream an exclamation point serves same purpose. Move along kid I know yiur the internet Sherlock Holmes. Do us all a favor and submit yiur brilliant finding to police. What's with you and daft arguments. Just because I laugh at you doesn't mean I find death of innocent people funny.

I understand you can't make a point without throwing in one strawman argument. Your antics are funny why shouldn't I laugh at you.

When people lack facts and accurate info, to buttress a point, they act like you by resorting to insults. Thank goodness everyone on this board can read, and can see the childish comments you have been making.

If by calling my post a 'strawman's argument helps you to sleep better at night, then it just proves one thing - the lives of those who died, is what you are treating as a joke. You have not provided one single piece of advice or a logical solution, that would enable the perpetrators to be brought to book. Those who do so, you call their remarks a daft argument. So it is easy to see that human lives are not sacred to you. If truly the issue of human lives that were lost is not a funny matter to you, then it would have been reflected in your comments.

zionmde:
I don't care about those articles. If u know ur English very well I said before that I got the info from a Yoruba man. So does a million other Yoruba people debunking that make me a liar?

It means you are canvassing an erroneous position, which is untrue. If one man makes a statement, and others who know the full story say it is untrue, why would you keep repeating it?

zionmde:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/01/time-to-end-the-bad-blood-between-the-yorubas-and-ndigbo/
U started using derogatory words just note that. because wen I come for u, highest I will get is a ban

What derogatory words? You were the first to talk about ignorance being exposed. I merely used the same words on you, and now you are whining?

Should I provide you with newspaper articles of other people who denied that Awo ever said such a thing? Will that satisfy you?

2016easy2017:
those are fulanis. not the criminals MBORORO. those mbororo are foreigners and are lawless. the rub in broad day-light

Mbororo are a clan of Fulani people.

Junior66:
Oga stop deceiving yourself o. one cow can buy an Ak47. Do you think you are richer than herdsmen? 10 cows will fetch more than a million naira you come de here de talk rubbish. Fulanis are violent people, you hear? I have very local Fulani friends and even a local Fulani girlfriend but I won't defend them. you think the people crying about herdsmen don't have eyes to identify their attackers?

Hmmnn.....

Blue3k:
Lol internet detective your screaming case closed over before the investigation was even completed. Second where did I claim helicopters don't have registration number. I didnt say herdsmen werent nigerisn either. Don't argue strawmen because you don't have actual point. Just because you can do some doesn't mean yiur allowed to go check civil aviation regulations.

The rest if this is just boring rant is just comedy. Feel free to submit yiur next essay. Please internet detective submit your finding when your not busy.

I said 'Case closed," because the steps that need to be taken to resolve the case, and unmask the identity of those who ordered the weapons carried by that helicopter, were so simple. If followed, then the case would be resolved. Now do you get it, or are you just slow when it comes to learning new things, or thinking logically?

Nobody is screaming here. I did not write in all caps. My points are clear, simple and straight-forward. Only someone who lacks critical thinking skills like you, would find it difficult to make sense of them. You are the comedian whose responses indicate that you find the deaths of innocent community members, or the threat to their lives, a funny tale.

zionmde:
sadly I got that information from a Yoruba man. do ur research before u expose ur ignorance

Chimo! Must you lie to get your point across? At your age? Are you talking about those same Yoruba people, that have come online countless times, to debunk that false claim? Why are you exposing your own ignorance like this?

Nonaira1:
Laudate YOU ENTIRE POSTs since you been a member on this forum betrays no matter how much you wail, whin and cry to deny your Afonja heritage. It oozes out of you like water in a faucet despite your desparate attempt to hide it

Even the yorubas don't even believe you're not a yoruba. You forget when you were arguing with one about that specifically. says quiet alot

Now Bleep off my mention you coward ass Afonja clown. Take your yoruba bigot ass of my mention.

I'm glad you're are happy that you think you are such a good pretender than you deceiving people into not knowing where you come from. Maybe you deceiving those that are new but definitely not those of us that's been here for long time. There is a reason you've been called yoruba REPEATEDLY by those that have been here for a long time. I'm not the first and i highly doubt I'll be the last. There is ZERO, ZILCH, NADA doubt in my mind you're a 100% AFONJA from the land of Southwest, just one of the coward ones at that.

You can wail some more about it, color, italized or bold each statement like a mentally challenged child while posting an inaccurate meme and think somehow, someway you've changed opinion that you're not yoruba and indeed a minority living in southwest.

Cowards ass Afonja

The Yorubas said, I am not Yoruba. They are not saying anything I do not know already. So why don't you believe them? Why do you keep calling me a Yoruba person, then? Isn't that the height of stewvpidity? Like I said before: "The Yorubas must have dealt with you mercilessly that is why you feel anyone who does not share your flawed perspective, or swallow your false narratives, is Yoruba." I must truly commend them for doing a good job!

Now, for the umpteenth time answer my question: Please ikechu01 a.k.a Nonaira1, Kindly provide proof to show that Laudate is Yoruba. Include the name of his town, local govt area and traditional ruler, while you are at it. Every correct answer gets 20 marks. I have thrown this challenge at you countless times, but you are still unable to give a coherent or logical answer. Instead you resort to making false allegations, name calling, recycling hate-filled epistles and wailing. Now stop lamenting and get to work. Stop relying on the falsehood peddled by your ignorant bigoted kinsmen about me, as a source of info. Or are you too clueless to get the proof?

Coward ass ekwensu! Onye eberibe!

Blue3k:
You internet detectives are funny. Your already shouted case closed you don't have a single detail. Do you know what case closed means or did you just want a drop the Mic moment.

Lol they have power because skeptics don't believe every story posted on internet automatically like yourself.

Who is an internet detective? You? Are you trying to tell me that you do not know that helicopters carry registration numbers? Are you saying you do not know that helicopters can land anywhere there is a flat field - even if it is not more than 3 plots, in size? Haven't you seen helicopters landing in the middle of a clearing within a bush?

1). How many helicopters do we have in Nigeria?

2). How many were cleared to land in Taraba?

3). What consignment were they carrying to Taraba?

In case you do not know, every helicopter has a flight plan. So if the security forces are quite serious in unravelling this issue, all they need to do is to visit the location and get the helicopters details. From there, they can inspect his consignment or track it and arrest those behind it. Is that so difficult to do, in this day and age? If the security forces, have not done so, then it is safe to say they are complicit in those attacks being inflicted on the communities and villages, by the militant Fulani herdsmen. When I said case closed, I meant that it was a simple matter for the security agencies to fish out the helicopter, get hold of the pilot and examine his consignment, if they wanted to do so. It isn't rocket science, is it?

Victims have reported that herdsmen came to their communities, well-armed with sophisticated weapons and vehicles. They make their quick getaways after attacking any community. Some victims have even confirmed that these attackers spoke among themselves in Fulfude, mixed with a bit of Hausa. How did those weapons get into their hands, and how come those who cause mayhem in these communities, are hardly ever arrested but they always escape successfully after each heinous act? And you still want us to believe that the security agencies are not complicit in their escape? Hmmn.....

If you feel the attackers are not militant Fulani herdsmen, then kindly tell us who they are. Are they Australians or Congolese?

Sprumbabafather:
Reply Paul Unongo, face the north where they are raining slaps on you from, Olu Falae farm is also on fire now, you got fire extinguishers?

Unongo has been given a befitting reply by various people, especially those from his constituency in Benue. If you have been following the news reports you would have realised it. Now back to my previous comment which was actually NOT addressed to you in the first place, but to the respondent who made the remark: "Oh lawd! They have started their propaganda again...! Chukwu biko!'

If that comment hurts you too much, hug the nearest transformer. Your choice!

Blue3k:
Lol what a daft response it's expected of your ilk though. Yes helicopter can land in village they aren't allowed to for no reason. The pilot would need to have permission.

Who told you he did not get that permission? Agents of the state have been suspected to collaborate with militant Fulani herdsmen. if the govt really wants to fish out those killers, they should just find out the registration number of that helicopter and trace its owners, as well as those who hired it to land weapons in Taraba. Case closed!

Sprumbabafather:
Unongo is slapping your people from the north and you are turning east to cry?

Whose people is Unongo slapping? Tell us. And why da heck do you chaps believe in recycling propaganda, at every little chance you get??

zionmde:
awolowo.
the same man who said if Biafra secedes he will lead Yoruba's to secede too. only for him to join forces with Gowon. A bitter pill we will never forget. Anyway the past is past. Everybody has learnt his lessons, thanks to Fulani guys for making the middle beltans realize how sweet one Nigeria tastes

Oh lawd! They have started their propaganda again...! Chukwu biko!

DWJOBScom:
Hmmmmm

I find it tough to believe this story as I have experienced this herdmen and their cows while growing up in Kogi state. Their cows destroy farms and I dare anyone who grew up around itobe or communities close to Lokoja to refute this story, right now they've turned violent and causing havoc here and there.
I doubt this story and alot and think these person is just employed to play down the events at hand.

In fact, I also wondered at the same thing. There is something I believe, though. There are 3 groups of Fulani herdsmen.

There is one group of simple Fulani herdsmen who take care of the cattle. They move around peacefully with their cattle seeking grass for them to eat. Some are rather selfish, and allow their cattle to graze on farmlands to the detriment of the farmers and their crops.

And there is another group of militant Fulani herdsmen or renegades, who are the cattle rustlers that steal the cattle and kill people. They are armed with sophisticated weapons, vehicles and machinery. It is this second group, that needs to be disbanded and tracked down by the security agencies, to face the music. Someone who is not an experienced Fulani herdsman would not have the courage or skill, to rustle several numbers of cattle at a go. They are being backed by some influential Nigerians, or else where would they get such sophisticated weapons and trained killers, from??

Then the 3rd group are savage, intolerant Fulani herdsmen, employed by the cattle owners to take revenge on the communities, where their cattle were stolen, because they erroneously believe that the indigenes of those communities are responsible for stealing their cows.

The 2nd and 3rd groups are the most deadly of the Fulani herdsmen. The govt authorities and security agencies need to fish them out, and eradicate them!

jamesibor:
Are you dyslexic or you are being mischievous trying to differentiate "hate" from "hatred"? Is Boko a haram to you?

Guy, you are the dyslexic one. Thank God, everyone on this board can read! I disagreed with your views, and instead of providing verifiable evidence to support your claims, you turned round to accuse me of hating the Igbo, simply because I said communities in Kogi are not Igbo. I asked you before to provide proof to show that Laudate hates the Igbo, but till now you have been digressing and beating around the bush. Why is it so hard for you to substantiate your false allegations? Is it because you enjoy dishing out lies, and parading them as the truth?

Ahamefuna0001:
Lol.

Never knew this how he is.
And I was thinking he's an Edo man.

Its best he is Ignored.

Another piece of falsehood. How did you jump to this conclusion, I wonder? Did I ever tell you I am Edo? So what informed this silly view? Please collect a refund from your teachers. You learnt nothing in school, about the fact that there are over 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria.

jamesibor:
Dude, I didn't get my information from the Internet. I know for sure that there are Igbo speaking communities in Kogi state and I've been to Kogi state severally. In fact, my uncle is married to someone from Ayingba or something like that.

Please cut the crap. The fact that your uncle is married to someone from Anyigba does not mean you know anything about the whole of Kogi state. Or do you want to tell us too, that the Anyigba people are Igbo? Is that the new fake angle you want to peddle? Puhleeze!! Answer all the questions I have put to you on this thread, and stop beating around the bush with your fake stories.

Ahamefuna0001:
He never classified him an Igbo man, he only asked a question and here is it.

Ur deep dislike for Ndigbo couldn't allow you comment on the topic at hand but rather attack him.
I don't know if the name 'Igbo' gives you high bp.

What dislike? Why are you people so paranoid? The minute someone does not agree with your false narrative and wrong perspective, you start throwing allegations of 'hate' and 'dislike' around. Why do you chaps like playing the victim card and whining like babies??

So my one answer that was given to correct a wrong notion, is now being interpreted as dislike for the entire Nd'Igbo??! Interesting. You need to go back to school and collect a refund from your teachers, biko!

jamesibor:
He's met his match today, I'll dismember him first on Nairaland before the Fulani herdsmen who are coming to take over his land as cattle colony complete the rest.

Really? Were you not the same clown begging me to give you tutorials a while ago? See this one....

Your rabid hate-filled crew have come online to give you some dutch courage, and you are now a little fly feeling like a bird.

Jephyard:
I have live in Kogi State and to the best of my knowledge there is no indegnious Ibo from Kogi State. Though there are IBO migrant who assimilate well with the Igala people. And about their name forget about the spelling it mean a whole different thing. And also due to the advent of both Christianity and Islam most Igala people don't know the meaning of their name rooted in their tradition. Like their famous king "Ameboni" up till today no one can tell me the meaning. It Crazy.

I concur!

august2224:
so what do you call IBAJI AND ODOLU people? There bear both Igala and Igbo names and speak both languages. Moreover most of them look more Igbotic than Igalaic.

Ibaji and Odolu are Igala!! Now, go and cry about it....

Nonaira1:
He's whining because you hit it square in the head.

Since that Laudate have been a member of this forum, he vomits nothing but hatred to Igbos since day 1. Dude even won the most tribalistic award in 2012 on this forum because of it. You are not the first to call him out on it and I bet you a billion dollars, you will not be the last. He's desperate to change that narrative and opinion of him but dude can't help himself in displaying his full-blown hatred hence it continues to stick.

Notice how even the Kogi people on this thread are confirming what you are saying and yet he is still arguing against them. He's not even from Kogi state yet equally arguing or ignoring the Kogi that agreed with you. Just ignore the bigot. You are wasting your precious time with that one. His head is as empty as a rock.

Nonaira1:
Dude is Yoruba. Straight up southwest but denies it.
Because he's desperate to display his hatred towards Igbo and not have his Yoruba heritage gets blamed and attacked back, he denies being one every day sadly for him, just like he can't stop his compulsion to insult Igbo, he can't stop his compulsion to defend his Yoruba people. Funny, those of us that have been here long enough do not believe he's a non-Yoruba like he claims. Heck, there was a time he was arguing with a known Yoruba supremacist back then aka shymexx about him, laudate, not being a non-yoruba.

Heck, I've been on here where people called him SS, he denied it. Called him MB, he denied it; called him north and he denied it. Likewise, he denied being SW. He must be Chinese then lol. Despite all his denial, his post on NL already points to exactly where he comes from. He has difficulty stopping his compulsion. Rather than be proud of his ethnicity, he claims he's a "minority living in Lagos and fascinated and adore Yoruba" or some BS like that.

Dude is not edo, kogi, or any other state/region, dude is straight up southwestern
Whenever you call him out on his real ethnicity, he'll whin up a page while screeching "show me where I ever claimed yoruba" blah blah as a way to deflect. A pattern I've gotten from him, if he writes a half a page or full page full of whining in his comment, whatever the heck you said that prompted that whin is factual about him.

Anyway, I ignore him also. A waste of time to even engage the clown

Oh lawd!! The Yorubas must have dealt with you mercilessly that is why you feel anyone who does not share your flawed perspective, or swallow your false narratives, is Yoruba. I laugh in Greek!!

I am glad that the fact that you do not know where Laudate comes from, causes you sleepless nights. The lack of info has turned you into a frothing mass of anger, and it continues to torment your mind. Good! Why should I tell you I come from a particular place, when I do not hail from there? You are so determined to foist the Yoruba tag on me. I guess your brain has been wired to believe that anyone who does NOT share your perspective is now 'Yoruba.' Chai!

Now ikechu01 a.k.a Nonaira1, please provide proof to show that Laudate is Yoruba. Include the name of his town, local govt area and traditional ruler, while you are at it. every correct answer gets 20 marks. I have thrown this challenge at you lots of times, but instead of coming up with proof, you resort to name calling, hate-filled epistles and vile vituperations. Oh, did Shymex send you on this errand? Kindly confirm.

Why does anything about me cause you so much pain? I wonder.....

jamesibor:
Since you seem to be suffering from amnesia. It's now clear you are having this argument from a pepper soup joint.

Why is it that each time, I ask you to substantiate your false claims, you find it very hard to do so? You were the one who falsely claimed or alleged that I 'hated' the Igbo, earlier in this thread. Provide proof from any of my posts in this thread, showing where the word "hate" was used, but you could not do so. Now you are talking about amnesia. Is that the condition you are suffering from?

AkpaMgbor:
You disagreed with his points BUT you didn’t actually debunk them..he asked you about the Igbo names of the communities in kogi and what they mean in the native igala language, you couldn’t give an answer but instead asked him to search for it on the web..I doubt you’ve even from igala..

Hello, please go back and read all his posts from the beginning of this thread till now. This thread started with a report of the Fulani attack on the Bachama villages, and the way the rep from Kogi East rejected a cattle colony in his area of Kogi. Your brother jumped into classify him as Igbo and also ascribe a false Igbo origin to various communities in Kogi state, This was rebuffed. He got his info on those communities from the internet, so why on earth should I be the one to explain to him what those names mean? Let him go back to the internet. It was even another respondent that told him those names have their own meaning in Igala.

GavelSlam:
I have never debated that.

I am only making it clear that both communities have been clashing.

You are just contradicting yourself. So a 'revenge attack,' is now a clash in your own view? Why are you trying so hard to downplay the culpability of the heinous crimes committed by one group against the other?

Odingo1:
The same Rotimi Amaechi you are reffering to have told you that he is an Igbo man of Ikwerre extraction, he said his father gave him the name Rotimi because the man is his role model to his father.
Ikwerre in Rivers, Ika in Delta, Igbanke in Edo are all Igbo people.
Igalas are not Igbos but many are of Igbo origin, they speak Igbo and bear Igbo names, with Igbo names as the name of their villages.

Answer my questions, and stop perambulating and dribbling around the issue. Do those people who bear Igbo names in your community, regard themselves as Igbo? Are they Igbo people, in deed and in truth? A simple Yes or No would do. No need for long story....stop contradicting yourself by saying, "Igalas are not Igbos but many are of Igbo origin, they speak Igbo and bear Igbo names, with Igbo names as the name of their villages." No true Igala man has any Igbo origin!

jamesibor:
When you accused me of hating the Igalas, I didn't whine. Why whining when I extended same to you? Intolerance.

I do not whine. I simply dish out the same hand, that others have served in my direction, back to them. So where is the whining? And where on earth did I allege that you hate the Igalas? Point it out to me, in black and white, where I used the word "hate". You, on the other hand, used that word thrice in one of your posts to me, when you made your unfounded allegations about what I felt for your tribe.

GavelSlam:
But the same article you claim to have read called it a clash.

And the same article states clearly that it was an attack, too. A revenge attack by the Fulani against the Bachama. Go and read it again!

jamesibor:
Sorry, the power to grant occupancy for land rests with the governor and not the legislator who is at best exercising his constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech.

And the indigenes can always challenge the governor's claims over their land in court. Until the case is decided, the govt is restrained from trespassing on the land. A number of CofO papers have been revoked, following such court judgements, in favour of the people. Haven't you heard? It is common in Nigeria.

jamesibor:
Well, every source tells me they are Igbo communities. Sorry, your hate for Igbos won't erase that reality.

I love my fellow Anambrarians who are Igala and accept them as one but your hatred for Ndigbo won't let you acknowledge the fact that those people are Igbo. Like I said before, everybody migrated from somewhere.

_(sigh) Here we go again!! First, your sources are wrong! Once a person disagrees with your false perspectives, you will claim he hates the Nd'Igbo. So because I refused to accept your false narrative which you have been peddling about Igala people and towns, in your bid to claim that they are Igbo, you automatically decided to play the victim card, by claiming that there is a hatred for Igbo people. Why do you take delight in playing the victim card? It is a tired, old strategy well-used by your folks. Now your band of ill-mannered clique, will come in here to recycle the same allegations of hate.

When you were wishing evil on Kogi people by praying their lands would be colonised and renamed in Fulfude, did I say you hated the Kogi people? No, I only said that what you wished for them would be visited on your own people.

jamesibor:
Well, my governor hasn't promised land for one, your governor did.

And so? Didn't you hear or see the representatives of the communities where the land are stated, rejecting it? Don't worry, I have said it before and shall repeat it here again: "...right after those cattle colonies have first been established in your own village or hometown, and after your people have been colonised by the Fulanis." And so shall it be!

jamesibor:
Tell me what it means in Igala and while at that, also tell me what Eke Avurugo, Ugwuebonyi and Ozara mean in Igala. Thanks

Why? Was I put on Nairaland to give you a tutorial? Check the internet for the meaning in Igala, the same way you got the name of the town from the internet!