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Politics › Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by laudate: 12:41pm On Jan 19, 2018*. Modified: 1:16pm On Jan 19, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista: There are tens of transport operators in Jibowu and Ojota, I am quite aware that NONE of them bought those lands from scratch and developed it to parks.
Even in Abuja here, the lands where these major and minor transporters use in Nyaya, Jabi, Gwagwalada etc are not bought by them for scratch for the purpose but leased to them
There are major NURTW and RTEAN parks in Ojota, Jibowu, Mazamaza etc that are supervised by government and other pocket of parks that some major operators use which they either rent from the government or the original owners of the land. Even the Chisco you cited NEVER bought the land from scratch, they first collected it on rent and later bought it (after a couple of years perhaps).
Why can't state government do same for cattle breeders?
BTW except you deliberately want to be mischievous, I said LAND FOR LEASE/RENT not gifting or "dashing" land to breeders Please name all the transport companies that operate from Jibowu, because that axis cannot accommodate the " tens " of transport companies you are talking about. In all they are not up to 13 transport companies, in Jibowu. How big is the entire area that it will accommodate tens of transporters? Unless you have documentary proof that govt acquired and leased the land to all transport operators in each of the districts you mentioned, I will suggest you keep quiet. Most of those parks sprang up as a private arrangement between the transporters and private owners of the land. Later, govt moved in to renovate and expand the place for them. NURTW and RTEAN will always take over any park, regardless of whether it is established by govt or not, because the drivers are often members of their union and it is a way to collect dues from them and make money. Even the small taxi park of 7 cars within the private estate where I live, within a private housing development, has a NURTW/RTEAN signboard right beside the park. Govt did NOT build the park or lease it to them. So let your cattle herdsmen set up their ranches using private developers, before thinking of asking for govt intervention. And if govt does not put an end to cattle rustling and break their cycle of organised crime, then such ranches will still come under attack by the rustlers, and the Fulani herdsmen including their masters, will blame the surrounding communities and still launch reprisal attacks against them. |
Politics › Re: “benue State Belongs To The Fulanis By Right Of Conquest” – Labado Muhammad by laudate: 3:15am On Jan 19, 2018 |
How many threads are you people going to open on the same subject?  Rule 14 says 'Please search the forum before creating a new thread on Nairaland.' But you chaps never do so, instead you end up duplicating the same topic over and over again!  |
Politics › Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by laudate: 3:06am On Jan 19, 2018*. Modified: 3:21am On Jan 19, 2018 |
There is this tendency to see nomadic Fulani herders as the primary perpetrators of rural banditry, including cattle rustling. The fact that Fulani nomads are familiar with the forest tracts tends to reinforce that perception.
There are documented instances of pastoralists who resort to rustling after losing cattle to disease, inclement weather, and violence; there also are Fulani nomads active in the international syndicate of cattle rustlers. Fulani herdsmen, however, are also victims of the illicit transactions (IRIN, 2013).
There were reported cases of cow population depletion around the Birnin Gwari in Kaduna State, an area that reportedly experienced cattle theft by criminal gangs. It is believed that the cows lost include some lost by Fulani nomads, as part of the incessant resource conflict with settled farmers and/or fellow Fulani rustlers.
Furthermore, cattle rustling and rural banditry, appear to be tied to the incessant conflict between Fulani herdsmen and crop farmers. The conflict may be connected to the wider context of identity, politics and intergroup relations, including the relationships between pastoralist groups on the one hand, and the Nigerian state system on the other.
Transhumant pastoralists are perceived as violent and deliberately armed to deal with unsuspecting crop farmers; the farmers allege intentional crop damage by animals. The herders, on the other hand, perceive themselves to be victims of political marginalization, lacking a voice within the Nigerian state system.
The exclusion of nomadic Fulani herders from the policy process and their lack of voice is so acute, that the Miyetti Allah Cattle Breeders Association (MACBA), an urban-based Fulani pressure group, stands as the only known civic group that engages in policy advocacy on their behalf. ' In more recent times, there has been a dramatic increase in the spates of conflict between herders and farming communities, alongside the attendant problems of rural banditry and cattle rustling.
Media reports of cattle rustling suggest that victims include large scale, commercial livestock farmers and nomadic pastoralists who graze their cattle across the country. It has been reported that in 2013, gunmen armed with automatic weapons attacked the commercial farms of Vice-President Namadi Sambo, along Birnin Gwari road in Kaduna, and also the commercial farms of the Emir of Zaria, Alhaji Shehu Idris, in Zaria — taking over 1,000 cows in the former case and 200 in the latter.
High-profile cases of cattle robbery of this nature are commonplace, involving millions of naira (Weekly Trust, May 16, 2015). The powerful effects threaten the very survival of pastoralists. The growing menace of cattle rustling by armed gangs and bandits appears to differ in terms of scale and economic consequences in 'ungoverned' spaces, and territories between Kaduna, Katsina and Zamfara States. These armed gangs and bandits routinely raid cattle owned by traditional pastoralists. New criminal gangs, armed with sophisticated weapons, have reportedly carted away cattle in commando-like operations that have resulted in the killings of herders.
Available evidence also suggests that cattle rustling has not only metamorphosed into an immensely sophisticated and efficient organized crime, it is now also motivated by both 'subsistence' and 'commercial' imperatives.
With specific reference to the Birnin Gwari area of Kaduna State where cattle rustling and related criminal activities have been concentrated, Tukur says, "Almost all the entire herds around that area have been stolen. In fact that belt – the belt from Birnin Gwari, through Funtua, Faskari, parts of Zamfara going to Anchau – that is like a no man's land, for cattle rustlers and bandits. Every cow there has been stolen, including cows belonging to generals and top civil servants; talk less of small herdsmen whose names you don't hear..." (Tukur, June 11, 2013).
http://www.nsrp-nigeria.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Rural-Banditry-Report.pdf If the armed gangs and criminal herdsmen who carry out cattle rustling are not disbanded or eradicated, then ranching is highly unlikely to stop cattle from being stolen. It just means that such armed gangs would then turn their attentions on the ranches, and raid them, at will. They may even extend such attacks to the surrounding community, who have nothing to do with such cattle. It has been said that the inability of the state to effectively respond to conflicts, violence, and banditry, "has allowed an expansion of the frontiers of banditry, and other forms of criminality." |
Politics › Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by laudate: 3:02am On Jan 19, 2018*. Modified: 3:18am On Jan 19, 2018 |
baralatie: where do you put the Fulani cattle rustlers who kill the Fulani cattle rearer for their cows Guy, that is another huge topic for discussion on its own.  It is another reason why I am so sceptical about these "cattle colonies,' or "ranching reserves" thing. If cattle rustlers or armed bandits who steal cattle/cows are not caught and summarily dealt with, and their criminal gangs broken, then the establishment of ranches or colonies will serve no purpose. Why? Armed banditry and cattle rustling is said to be a highly organised operation in the north, and those gangs carry sophisticated weapons to carry out their dastardly act. Some are sacked Fulani herdsmen who have lost their cattle, while others are just plain nomadic criminals. If ranches are established and such criminal gangs are not dismantled, they will just launch attacks against the ranches and whatever community is close to them. May God deliver us all from evil! The complex reality on the ground, is that both pastoralists and farmers, have been victims of the banditry attacks. The attacks are characterized mainly by the use of overwhelming force, as dozens or even hundreds of attackers are involved in an operation. It is this use of overwhelming force that pushes people to flee their villages and settlements. In addition to sheer numbers, attackers tend to be highly organized. Both pastoralists and farmers confirmed that the attackers set up camps, which they use as planning and staging grounds before attacking communities.
A participant in Goe'es village shared his knowledge of the bandits: "The attackers are usually said to be very organized, sometimes numbering up to 100. There is a story that was told, saying that the rustlers have their chief. At a particular time, the rustlers came to steal the fattened cattle of a Fulani man, and when the Fulani man went to plead with the chief of rustlers, he got some of the cattle back (FGD, November 22, 2014)."
In this case, the gang of attackers appeared to be very similar to other gangs in organized crime which are involved in smuggling, trafficking, and racketeering. If the attackers are in fact organized enough to establish camps as staging grounds, they certainly must have a means of gathering intelligence.
" The attackers come mostly on foot, but sometimes they come in cars and motorcycles. It also seems that the attackers may be supported by helicopters, as sometimes we see helicopters take off and land around the heavily forested areas where the attackers are hiding. (FGD, November 22, 2014)."
Respondents were asked whether indigenes, armed robbers, or Fulani herders were responsible for cattle theft; 50% identified few indigenes as the culpable parties. The remainder was evenly split, with 25% identifying criminal gangs and 25% identifying Fulani herdsmen as the perpetrators. The evidence suggests that cattle rustling is a major rural crime, and is sustained by a carefully networked gang of armed rustlers, which operates under the control of gang leaders.
http://www.nsrp-nigeria.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Rural-Banditry-Report.pdf |
Politics › Re: I Took These Photos Of Fulanis Fleeing; Doctor Speaks On Nomadic Cattle Herding by laudate: 2:48am On Jan 19, 2018 |
EricBloodAxe: You that is not funny are the foolanis not killing benue indigenes everyday? What have you done to show you are not slaves to the invaders? And yes the tor tivs and the rest of benue state and you included are a conquered territory based on recent news report. Follow the link below and tell me who the joke is upon. 
https://www.nairaland.com/4296195/benue-state-belongs-fulani-right What on earth are you saying? You must be the only one who did not read the stories about how Benue militias and other Middle Belt groups, have started retaliating against the Fulani, and defending themselves. |
Romance › Re: Adeola Marcus Blasts Leonard Daunsi For Marrying Another Woman by laudate: 2:46am On Jan 19, 2018 |
yhemster: This is just an example of a side chick that want the dikc for herself only. But when she realised its too late she couldn't let go easily without a pulling the man's private matter in the public. Na wa ooo. This hustle for husband nowadays just tired person sha 
She's a jealous side chick, guys should be cautious. Stop being daft. Go back and read the story again from the beginning, before jumping to the wrong conclusion. |
Politics › Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by laudate: 2:38am On Jan 19, 2018 |
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Education › Re: 50 Courses You Can Study Without Credit In Mathematics by laudate: 1:35am On Jan 19, 2018 |
nurshah: Abeg which uni be that ? They were even insisting that its a regulation affecting all uni.. Many of those around me had to resolve to some ways to GEt in maths Unilag... |
Politics › Re: [BREAKING] Osinbajo, Nine Governors Form Committee On Herdsmen Killings by laudate: 12:52am On Jan 19, 2018 |
The complex reality on the ground, is that both pastoralists and farmers, have been victims of the banditry attacks. The attacks are characterized mainly by the use of overwhelming force, as dozens or even hundreds of attackers are involved in an operation. It is this use of overwhelming force that pushes people to flee their villages and settlements. In addition to sheer numbers, attackers tend to be highly organized. Both pastoralists and farmers confirmed that the attackers set up camps, which they use as planning and staging grounds before attacking communities.
A participant in Goe'es village shared his knowledge of the bandits: "The attackers are usually said to be very organized, sometimes numbering up to 100. There is a story that was told, saying that the rustlers have their chief. At a particular time, the rustlers came to steal the fattened cattle of a Fulani man, and when the Fulani man went to plead with the chief of rustlers, he got some of the cattle back (FGD, November 22, 2014)."
In this case, the gang of attackers appeared to be very similar to other gangs in organized crime which are involved in smuggling, trafficking, and racketeering. If the attackers are in fact organized enough to establish camps as staging grounds, they certainly must have a means of gathering intelligence.
" The attackers come mostly on foot, but sometimes they come in cars and motorcycles. It also seems that the attackers may be supported by helicopters, as sometimes we see helicopters take off and land around the heavily forested areas where the attackers are hiding. (FGD, November 22, 2014)."
Respondents were asked whether indigenes, armed robbers, or Fulani herders were responsible for cattle theft; 50% identified indigenes as the culpable parties. The remainder was evenly split, with 25% identifying criminal gangs and 25% identifying Fulani herdsmen as the perpetrators. The evidence suggests that cattle rustling is a major rural crime, and is sustained by a carefully networked gang of armed rustlers, which operates under the control of gang leaders.
http://www.nsrp-nigeria.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Rural-Banditry-Report.pdf |
Politics › Re: [BREAKING] Osinbajo, Nine Governors Form Committee On Herdsmen Killings by laudate: 11:54pm On Jan 18, 2018*. Modified: 12:41am On Jan 19, 2018 |
There is this tendency to see nomadic Fulani herders as the primary perpetrators of rural banditry, including cattle rustling. The fact that Fulani nomads are familiar with the forest tracts tends to reinforce that perception.
There are documented instances of pastoralists who resort to rustling after losing cattle to disease, inclement weather, and violence; there also are Fulani nomads active in the international syndicate of cattle rustlers. Fulani herdsmen, however, are also victims of the illicit transactions (IRIN, 2013).
There were reported cases of cow population depletion around the Birnin Gwari in Kaduna State, an area that reportedly experienced cattle theft by criminal gangs. It is believed that the cows lost include some lost by Fulani nomads, as part of the incessant resource conflict with settled farmers and/or fellow Fulani rustlers.
Furthermore, cattle rustling and rural banditry, appear to be tied to the incessant conflict between Fulani herdsmen and crop farmers. The conflict may be connected to the wider context of identity, politics and intergroup relations, including the relationships between pastoralist groups on the one hand, and the Nigerian state system on the other.
Transhumant pastoralists are perceived as violent and deliberately armed to deal with unsuspecting crop farmers; the farmers allege intentional crop damage by animals. The herders, on the other hand, perceive themselves to be victims of political marginalization, lacking a voice within the Nigerian state system.
The exclusion of nomadic Fulani herders from the policy process and their lack of voice is so acute, that the Miyetti Allah Cattle Breeders Association (MACBA), an urban-based Fulani pressure group, stands as the only known civic group that engages in policy advocacy on their behalf. ' In more recent times, there has been a dramatic increase in the spates of conflict between herders and farming communities, alongside the attendant problems of rural banditry and cattle rustling.
Media reports of cattle rustling suggest that victims include large scale, commercial livestock farmers and nomadic pastoralists who graze their cattle across the country. It has been reported that in 2013, gunmen armed with automatic weapons attacked the commercial farms of Vice-President Namadi Sambo, along Birnin Gwari road in Kaduna, and also the commercial farms of the Emir of Zaria, Alhaji Shehu Idris, in Zaria — taking over 1,000 cows in the former case and 200 in the latter.
High-profile cases of cattle robbery of this nature are commonplace, involving millions of naira (Weekly Trust, May 16, 2015). The powerful effects threaten the very survival of pastoralists. The growing menace of cattle rustling by armed gangs and bandits appears to differ in terms of scale and economic consequences in 'ungoverned' spaces, and territories between Kaduna, Katsina and Zamfara States. These armed gangs and bandits routinely raid cattle owned by traditional pastoralists. New criminal gangs, armed with sophisticated weapons, have reportedly carted away cattle in commando-like operations that have resulted in the killings of herders.
Available evidence also suggests that cattle rustling has not only metamorphosed into an immensely sophisticated and efficient organized crime, it is now also motivated by both 'subsistence' and 'commercial' imperatives.
With specific reference to the Birnin Gwari area of Kaduna State where cattle rustling and related criminal activities have been concentrated, Tukur says, "Almost all the entire herds around that area have been stolen. In fact that belt – the belt from Birnin Gwari, through Funtua, Faskari, parts of Zamfara going to Anchau – that is like a no man's land, for cattle rustlers and bandits. Every cow there has been stolen, including cows belonging to general and top civil servants; talk less of small herdsmen whose names you don't hear..." (Tukur, June 11, 2013).
http://www.nsrp-nigeria.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Rural-Banditry-Report.pdf If the armed gangs and criminal herdsmen who carry out cattle rustling are not found and summarily dealt with, then ranching is highly unlikely to stop cattle from being stolen. It just means that such armed gangs would then turn their attentions on the ranches, and raid them, at will. it has been said that the inability of the state to effectively respond to conflicts, violence, and banditry, "has allowed an expansion of the frontiers of banditry and other forms of criminality."
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Politics › Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by laudate: 11:10pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
freeze001: https://www.google.com.ng/amp/dailypost.ng/2018/01/06/fulani-herdsmen-finally-reveal-attacked-benue-communities/amp/
http://www.dailycorrespondents.com.ng/2018/01/we-attacked-benue-community-in-retaliation-for-our-stolen-1000-cows-miyetti-allah-breeders/
You can read this to see where the leadership of Miyetti clearly accepted responsibility for the attacks. The Benue state governor isn't demanding the arrest of these Miyetti leaders just for the hell of it.
You have been on about how governments step in to build commercial motor parks for commercial transporters and all. Even in all their nuisance, how many of those drivers took up arms and committed murder to get parks marked off and built? Why then must the worst kind of wickedness and sense of entitlement be rewarded by that which they seek?
They should be compelled to embrace modern ranching, the government has already intervened in its agriculture drive hence the availability of loans at low interest rates. They should apply and join others in accessing such facilities. Govt can also provide training but asking them to take lands by whatever means is a hypocritical position to even canvass.
Have u taken cognisance of the psyche of those who have borne the brunt of these incessant, godless attacks? How would they feel having these marauders stationed in their homelands and appearing victorious in their evil quest of murder and destruction?
Those herders and cattle owners come from states. They should approach their respective state governments and those willing to put up with them. The FG getting involved by proposing colonies at that level or applying any form of coercion is nepotism at its best. There are lots of Nigerians completely homeless and helpless. They need help and not wealthy cattle owners taking advantage of the very useless Nigerian system. Thank you!!  [img] https://media./images/d58b5479d1eca0a85e190b0afb587571/tenor.gif[/img] |
Politics › Re: I Took These Photos Of Fulanis Fleeing; Doctor Speaks On Nomadic Cattle Herding by laudate: 10:59pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
kernel505: Having abused the opportunity of free grazing, they should embrace animal husbandry best practices, which is rent a space and do their thing. Yes, o!  I have said it before: let the cattle owners form cooperatives and get investors to help them build ranches in the far North. Govt should not get involved in this cattle ranching business. When cattle rearers sell their cows, do they give govt a share of their profits? And now, govt wants to get land from different communities in various states, and offer it free to cattle rearers. No private developer has come out to say he wants to buy land to build a ranch, and is willing to pay full commercial value for such land, but was denied land for such a venture. Why? This is because some communities who have now denied govt access to their ancestral land, would happily offer such land to a private developer once they are assured of good security and prompt payment, that adequately covers the full commercial value of their land. The only caveat is that the villagers or indigenes would insist that such land or ranches, be sited far away from populated homesteads within their community, and adequate security should be provided. Govt is not offering the farmers or indigenes good security, neither is it going to pay them upfront for their property, so why should they sell their land to govt? |
Politics › Re: I Took These Photos Of Fulanis Fleeing; Doctor Speaks On Nomadic Cattle Herding by laudate: 10:55pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
1shortblackboy: Afonja? I don't use such terms. Now tell me why they can't rear cows in their place of origin Good question!  |
Politics › Re: I Took These Photos Of Fulanis Fleeing; Doctor Speaks On Nomadic Cattle Herding by laudate: 10:53pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
GavelSlam: I am saying there is an opposition to this by various states already. Why is there an opposition? Kindly ask yourself that question.  There is no abandoned land anywhere. Land in the Middle-Belt and the south, belongs to families and communities. In some areas, large tracts are held in trust for the people, by their traditional rulers. Now govt is planning to take over some of those lands to do .... what?  Build ranches for cattle under the watch of Fulani herdsmen, whose antecedents show that they cannot peacefully coexist with others. Their reputation precedes them, and nobody wants to live next door to a blood thirsty and hostile neighbour. Secondly, if govt takes over such land everyone knows that for owners of such land to get paid any monetary compensation by govt, could take years, or even an eternity. At the end of the day, the owners hardly ever get a sum that is close to the commercial value of their ancestral lands or property, which was taken over by govt.  People are wiser now..... |
Politics › Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by laudate: 10:25pm On Jan 18, 2018*. Modified: 11:05pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista: Once again, how many major transport owners buy land to build parks? Did Chisco, Young, Ifesinachi etc bought the land and built their bus terminals in Jibowu and Festac? Also, I am glad with the emboldened, which is actually what government should do for Cattler breeders.
However, government stepped in to have a coordinated parks due to the fact that the motorists were constituting nuisance and because IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. Yes, they did! I am familiar with how the property on 6 Ikorodu road in Jibowu was bought and developed by Chisco Transport, one of the luxurious bus owners. That property belonged to a family in Lagos, and they initially rented it to Chief Ajaegbu before finally selling it to his company. It was NOT given to them by govt. The bus park is next to the old Edo Line terminal in Jibowu. Lagos State Govt is now asking them to relocate from there, to Ojota. Even at Maza-Maza opposite Festac in Lagos, where most of the luxurious bus owners have their parks, they rented the property from the private owners of the buildings beside the road, and extended the land in front of it, to accommodate their buses. Govt did not dash Chisco, Young Shall Grow or Ifesinachi the land. Oga, go and check your facts. |
Politics › Re: I Took These Photos Of Fulanis Fleeing; Doctor Speaks On Nomadic Cattle Herding by laudate: 7:57pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
GavelSlam: Why not kill them already?
Agreed, they need to modernise at the same time the request for allocation of Ranching Land is being rejected across the country .
Kill who?  Cattle owners (not herdsmen) are not poor people by any standards. How much is a cow? And how many are in a herd? Let them form cooperatives, buy land, liaise with private developers and build ranches. End of story. |
Education › Re: 50 Courses You Can Study Without Credit In Mathematics by laudate: 7:44pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
nurshah: Guy make we no waste time go check.. I try ooo I was forced to go and write waec at my old age all becasue of masters Oga that must be a backward university. Nobody asked me for that when I did my Masters. |
Politics › Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by laudate: 7:42pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista: How many Igbo(and other) trader build his shop in Lagos, Abuja or Kano? While some rent from government
The peculiarities of the business is that most times government and private developers BUILD these shops and plazas and give to traders on lease. This is a fact! Else, how many trader will buy land and BUILD his shop for trading?
Again, I used the example of motor parks that flood around all 36 states and FCT Your example of motor parks is way off tangent and totally unrelated to this issue. How do motor parks spring up? Usually, it starts with transport firms or bus owners or taxi drivers, coming together to designate a rented area beside the road, as a pick up or drop off point. Later as their activities increase, govt steps in and reconstructs those points, into taxi parks. For bigger transport companies like Young Shall Grow, ABC Transport, God is Good Motors etc, they build their own motorparks or transport terminals outright, or rent space to build it from private developers. So what are you going on about? Again, you mentioned private developers building shops for traders to lease, so why can't private developers build ranches for the cattle owners? Must it be govt? And in cases where govt builds shops for traders, it sells them outright to members of the public, who then turn round to lease them out to others, such as the spare parts traders. |
Politics › Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by laudate: 7:27pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista: How many tribes deal on spare parts in Nigeria? Should we say that all Igbo traders into spare part should go buy land to build their shops?
I believe that what is appropriate is for the government to build ranch and LEASE to breeders Please try to be smart. Most Igbo spare parts dealers, build or lease their shops from private owners, and inside market spaces. How many of them did govt build shops for, specifically? |
Politics › Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by laudate: 7:22pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista: It is either you have reading problem or that of comprehension, else, you wouldn't have wrote this.
In every state there is usually parks for commercial cab operators, these parks are not operated by indigenes alone but by Nigerians of different ethnic groups but they are overseen by the state government or FG (in the case of FCT) and a source of revenue. Why didn't you tell the motorists to go buy lands and operate their parks?
In many states, government build blocks of lock-up shops and lease to traders. This system not only make it well coordinated but also attract revenue to the state. Why not go tell each traders to go buy their own lands to build their shops?
Let us try to address issues holistically
It is not a must to comment... You are the one that lacks comprehension. Cattle breeders are in the business to make money. Why can't they raise money to build ranches for their cattle? Other breeders of various forms of livestock like goats, poultry, ostriches, rabbits, fishes etc., do not ask govt to build ranches for them, do they? How many tribes breed cows in Nigeria, and live a nomadic lifestyle? Don't be deceived. Cattle owners in Nigeria are among some of the wealthiest individuals in the land, today. How much does a cow cost? And how many are in a herd? |
Politics › Re: I Took These Photos Of Fulanis Fleeing; Doctor Speaks On Nomadic Cattle Herding by laudate: 7:18pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
lastmessenger: Sometimes I wonder why it is so difficult for these herder's to embrace the modern method of cattle rearing instead of wondering about the whole country destroying farmlands which in turn results to unnecessary clash. This herdsmen men issue can only be solved by a serious government who Will put it feet on the ground and say enough is enough. If you don't won a ranch,they you are not allowed to rear cow. But this present administration has proven beyond reasonable doubt that they are not different from the nomadic herders themselves. I love this phrase...." If you don't own a ranch, then you are not allowed to rear cows. " It should be passed into a law! |
Education › Re: 50 Courses You Can Study Without Credit In Mathematics by laudate: 7:03pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
nurshah: YOU BETTER EDIT AND WARN THAT ITS ADVISABLE TO GET MATHS BECAUSE I DOUBT ANY UNIVERSITY WILL ADMIT FOR MASTERS IF YOU DONT HAVE MATHS Which university will ask you for O'Level maths in NECO or WAEC, if you want to undertake a postgraduate course at Masters' level? Only the CGPA you graduated with, in your bachelor's degree course, is required!  |
Education › Re: 50 Courses You Can Study Without Credit In Mathematics by laudate: 7:00pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
slyfoxxjoe: After you graduate in any if these courses, just take your certificate and flush down the toilet because unemployment sure for you die. You lie!!  |
Politics › Re: Benue State Belongs To The Fulani By Right Of Conquest - Prof. Labdo Muhammad by laudate: 6:58pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
Here is another viewpoint!! BoneBlogger: A medical doctor and neurologist with Abubakar Tafawa Balewa University in Bauchi state, Nura Alkali, has weighed in on the Fulani herdsmen saga as he revealed how strongly he is opposed to nomadic cattle-herding. The doctor also revealed how he stopped to take pictures of herdsmen fleeing with their cattle in December 2017 after their people were attacked in Numan, Adamawa State.
Read what he shared on Facebook earlier today;
The mutual hatred among us is so pervasive that I wonder if we are truly civilized. In fact, some of us are so hateful that they hate themselves to spite others. You know yourselves. Your landless kinsmen are so much hated that even their infants are killed in cold-blood. But rather than help them acquire land in safer areas, you urge them to remain landless, which in your twisted mind, is a revenge on their enemies.
You are their worst enemy, like it or not. By "you", I mean everyone supporting nomadism while avoiding its dangers and enjoying sedentary life in our towns and cities. I'm also referring to past and present leaders who are ostensibly Fulani but did little to help nomads adopt modern methods of animal husbandry that would allow them lease/own land and access healthcare and education available to other Nigerians.
You are motivated by misplaced ego, but you are not alone. So-called "Fulani leaders" also did little to solve the problem, preferring instead to promise "bringing perpetrators to book" after each deadly conflict over farmland versus grazing land. But why am I not surprised? If the children of nomads can be doctors, engineers, lawyers and accountants like us and our children, who can we oppress again? Who will rear our cattle?
I took these pictures during a trip to Yola from Gombe on 1st December 2017, at around 8:30-9:00 am. These nomads were fleeing Numan, Adamawa State, after a hostile tribe massacred 54 of their women and children a few days earlier. I told my passenger that it was a sign for a revenge attack. I was so sure that I parked to take the pictures. That also gave me the chance to throw a jibe in Fulfulde at a group of herdsmen:
"Nomadism in this age is not bravery, but stupidity. Educate yourself and you would rear cows in comfort". He was aghast, but he still found the voice to tell his comrades that I was talking sense. An uneducated youth of 19-20 years. And here you are, a graduate or postgraduate insisting he should forever remain a nomad. Shame on you. Unfriend me if you hate my opinion since I'll always oppose nomadic cattle-herding.
Source; https://www.nationalhelm.co/2018/01/doctor-speaks-nomadic-cattle-herding-shares-photos-fulanis-fleeing-attack-adamawa.html Wow! This is such sound advice! I pray they will take heed. Those educated Fulani millionaires must be blamed, for the lack of progress among their people.  |
Politics › Re: I Took These Photos Of Fulanis Fleeing; Doctor Speaks On Nomadic Cattle Herding by laudate: 6:55pm On Jan 18, 2018*. Modified: 11:17pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
BoneBlogger: A medical doctor and neurologist with Abubakar Tafawa Balewa University in Bauchi state, Nura Alkali, has weighed in on the Fulani herdsmen saga as he revealed how strongly he is opposed to nomadic cattle-herding. The doctor also revealed how he stopped to take pictures of herdsmen fleeing with their cattle in December 2017 after their people were attacked in Numan, Adamawa State.
Read what he shared on Facebook earlier today;
The mutual hatred among us is so pervasive that I wonder if we are truly civilized. In fact, some of us are so hateful that they hate themselves to spite others. You know yourselves. Your landless kinsmen are so much hated that even their infants are killed in cold-blood. But rather than help them acquire land in safer areas, you urge them to remain landless, which in your twisted mind, is a revenge on their enemies.
You are their worst enemy, like it or not. By "you", I mean everyone supporting nomadism while avoiding its dangers and enjoying sedentary life in our towns and cities. I'm also referring to past and present leaders who are ostensibly Fulani but did little to help nomads adopt modern methods of animal husbandry that would allow them lease/own land and access healthcare and education available to other Nigerians.
You are motivated by misplaced ego, but you are not alone. So-called "Fulani leaders" also did little to solve the problem, preferring instead to promise "bringing perpetrators to book" after each deadly conflict over farmland versus grazing land. But why am I not surprised? If the children of nomads can be doctors, engineers, lawyers and accountants like us and our children, who can we oppress again? Who will rear our cattle?
I took these pictures during a trip to Yola from Gombe on 1st December 2017, at around 8:30-9:00 am. These nomads were fleeing Numan, Adamawa State, after a hostile tribe massacred 54 of their women and children a few days earlier. I told my passenger that it was a sign for a revenge attack. I was so sure that I parked to take the pictures. That also gave me the chance to throw a jibe in Fulfulde at a group of herdsmen:
"Nomadism in this age is not bravery, but stupidity. Educate yourself and you would rear cows in comfort". He was aghast, but he still found the voice to tell his comrades that I was talking sense. An uneducated youth of 19-20 years. And here you are, a graduate or postgraduate insisting he should forever remain a nomad. Shame on you. Unfriend me if you hate my opinion since I'll always oppose nomadic cattle-herding.
Source; https://www.nationalhelm.co/2018/01/doctor-speaks-nomadic-cattle-herding-shares-photos-fulanis-fleeing-attack-adamawa.html Wow! This is such sound advice! I pray they will take heed. Those educated Fulani millionaires must be blamed, for the lack of progress among their people.  |
Politics › Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by laudate: 6:47pm On Jan 18, 2018*. Modified: 10:29pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
You don't like the word Ijaw militants or Niger-Delta militants? Ok, should we call them Australian militants or Khashmiri avengers? Which one?  As for the Fulani cattle rearers, let then form cooperatives, buy land in different parts of the far North (excluding the Middle Belt) and get investors willing to establish cattle ranches, in partnership with them. Chikena! The cattle owners or breeders are NOT poor men, neither are their patrons. It is the herdsmen that are poor, and these herdsmen hardly own cattle.  Pig breeders, poultry owners, fish farmers, goat rearers do not allow their livestock to graze openly on the farmlands of others. They are raised in enclosed spaces, and any of their animals that stray into the properties of others, will end up landing his owner into the hot soup of a hefty fine, or a huge penalty. So why should cattle breeders be given preferential treatment? They can establish their cattle ranches or colonies in the far North, and transport such cattle to the Middle Belt or South, using trains and lorries. From the motor park or railway station, their livestock goes straight to the abbatoir. End of story!  |
Politics › Re: Peuhl Militia Masquerading Has Fulani Herdsmen Arrested In Benue by laudate: 2:51pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
sarrki: Stop spreading false news What is false about what I said?  Everything I stated is based on facts. I know several educated Fulani people personally, and I have also conducted research into their lifestyle. Go ahead and do your own findings. If your phone has the ability to browse, and if its settings have not been corrupted by your deceit, please go online to read this excerpt: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Fulani. Fulani, also called Peul or Fulbe, a primarily Muslim people scattered throughout many parts of West Africa, from Lake Chad, in the east, to the Atlantic coast. They are concentrated principally in Nigeria, Mali, Guinea, Cameroon, Senegal, |
Politics › Re: Peuhl Militia Masquerading Has Fulani Herdsmen Arrested In Benue by laudate: 2:39pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
Daviddson: Who are the Peul militia in the first place? I just hope this junk doesn't get to FP without vetting. Have the Fulanis ever denied their killings? No. They always own up to it and even threaten more attacks. See the audacity. The word Peul is another description for the Fulani. They are NOT a different tribe from the Fulani. Those Fulani people consist of different clans. Almost 20 clans. Alternative Titles: Fellata, Foulah, Fulbe, Fule, Peul.
Fulani, also called Peul or Fulbe, a primarily Muslim people scattered throughout many parts of West Africa, from Lake Chad, in the east, to the Atlantic coast. They are concentrated principally in Nigeria, Mali, Guinea, Cameroon, Senegal, and Niger. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Fulani |
Politics › Re: Peuhl Militia Masquerading Has Fulani Herdsmen Arrested In Benue by laudate: 2:37pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
project8: u must be sick to the head for quoting me and typing these rubbish.kids like u are the more reasons peace elude us.m nt standn or briefn for any fulani.am not even one nor related to them.all i said is a more balanced reporting of the crisis.dnt quote me again. When clueless toads like you lack facts and adequate info., they resort to insults. Typical. Hug the nearest transformer if you are so pained. |
Politics › Re: Peuhl Militia Masquerading Has Fulani Herdsmen Arrested In Benue by laudate: 2:19pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
project8: thats why the media biaseness comes to play.theres no balanced reporting of the crisis.we were even lucky if not d crime commited by don warny would have been ascribed to fulani herdsmen cos they seem not to have ppl speaking for them.i have videos of crime against d fulanis whic i plan to creat a thread soon Stop trying so hard to defend the indefensible.  It simply shows you have no value for human lives. The Fulani claimed their cows were stolen, and some of their herdsmen killed. Why didn't they report to the law enforcement agents?  No. They decided to attack entire communities, burn their houses to the ground and kill innocent men, women and children. What kind of sheer wickedness is that? Initially, those communities bore their grief and pain within themselves, and called upon the govt authorities to bring the killers to book. But govt and security agencies did nothing, for years. It was even alleged that those agencies provided tacit support for the marauders. The Fulani killer herdsmen got bolder, because no one was questioning them, and they continued to launch raids against whole communities in the Middle belt for several years, killing, maiming and destroying their people and houses. After those indigenes could not tolerate it any longer, they decided to retaliate. Under the excuse of avenging the ills done to them, the Fulani herdsmen responded by going further to engage in multiple killing sprees, and targeted several other innocent communities, who were not even part of the initial attacks. And that is what led to the current bloodletting.  And clueless clowns like you are busy trying to be politically correct. Maybe your own community needs to be razed to the ground by Fulanis, and the citizens maimed so that you can come to your senses!  |
Politics › Re: Peuhl Militia Masquerading Has Fulani Herdsmen Arrested In Benue by laudate: 2:10pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
dukie25: Those that raided Benue, Taraba, Plateau, Kogi, Nasarawa etc were not proper Fulanis abi?
And these Peuhl militias had thousands of cows and ammunition just so we think they're Fulanis. sarrki you need...... Please don't be deceived. The word Peul is another description for the Fulani. They are NOT a different tribe from the Fulani. Those Fulani people consist of different clans. Alternative Titles: Fellata, Foulah, Fulbe, Fule, Peul.
Fulani, also called Peul or Fulbe, a primarily Muslim people scattered throughout many parts of West Africa, from Lake Chad, in the east, to the Atlantic coast. They are concentrated principally in Nigeria, Mali, Guinea, Cameroon, Senegal, and Niger. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Fulani |