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Lexusgs430:
Because they can abuse the benefit system...... At times, we need to commend African rulers for imbibing in its citizenry, that hustling/survival/hardworking mentality......... 😁🤣

Normally In Nigeria citizen no suppose dey work 😂

deept:
This by the BBC yesterday on immigration.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77l41z8yn7o.amp

I appreciate the fact that the home secretary is staying on some decisions until relevant reviews are completed by appropriate bodies.

Speaking to the BBC's Radio 4 Today programme, she said: "If we had a domestic workforce willing to work then we wouldn’t need these international recruits."

Why are they not willing to work fgs?

Gerrard59:
I can see I have been identified as a troublemaker on this thread. But this post got my interest.

There is a difference between being British and English. You can be a British citizen, but it does not make you English. Ethnicity and nationality are two different concepts. Aside from African Americans because their case is different, it is always black people in the diaspora I see trying to dissociate themselves from where they originally come from based on their passports. We know why.
Chinese in the West are always quick to point out they are from Mainland China and here in Japan, they tell you they are ethnically Chinese even though they possess Japanese nationality and speak fluent Japanese.

If na our people, you for don hear say I am Japanese. But do you look Japanese?

Also in all of this happening, the agitators has never mention Chinese as immigrants they want to leave their country. It’s the usual brown and black skin countries they keep mentioning.

Meanwhile the Chinese arguably own more houses and investments in this country than any other ethnicity yet, they don’t scream we want our country back from them.

The reflection of your ethnicity is how people will treat you in the diaspora. Chinese advancement in technology has given respect to their citizen wherever they go.

If we don’t come together and make Africa great, thinking because we own ILR… one day they will ask you where you are really from?

missjekyll:
Lol.
The only indigenes here are the celts. Everyone else came here from somewhere including the Anglo-Saxons .

Yes,it's my country too. I ve earned the right to call it that and demand all the privileges that affords me with audacity. Anyone who tries to say otherwise and deprive me of those privileges ll meet me in court.

Don't be scared. It's your country too. Noone can act otherwise .

Just in passing: you weren't among the people saying Yoruba Ronu during the last election ,were you? because that was bs too

Na online you dey. You fit dey talk all you like to make yourself happy. When people wey get country ready, I go see whether you go ask dem if they are Celtics or rangers.

Na dem I blame sha wey open doors. If them no take time dem go collect country for them hand.

Most of the things dey tolerate can’t happen in other the so called Asian countries.

Make I mind my African and Nigerian business jejely.

hustla:
I remember being on this thread, ranting about how immigrants, especially legal immigrants like students are portrayed by the English media...

I also remember some people here defending their racist actions and portrayal of immigrants, same people who now would be afraid to go out due to the anti immigrant protests going on right now

I hope we can all see that no matter the spree spree English you speak with your nose and the government you defend cos you feel you're now part of them, you're still black and a bloody immigrant at the end of the day

Light n*gga, dark n*gga, faux n*gga, real n*gga
Rich n*gga, poor n*gga , house n*gga, field n*gga..
... Still n*gga

Welcome back from sabbatical leave.

missjekyll:
Isn't that what everyone voted for a month ago? Change? Did they need to turn to attempted murder and theft to make an additional point?

What did I do to deserve fearing for my life in my own country kwa? All plans for summer cancelled? Fear on my way to work? Contingency mapping routes of escape?Did I approve the billions wasted on Rwanda and housing asylum seekers? What is my part in this?

If I say that I ve filed your opinion in a bin now,people ll say I m rude.

I laugh at your own country. This are the things you lots say that pisses them off. You get British passport doesn’t make it your country. We all know who the natives are, you are just a British passport holder the indigenes know themselves.

ReesheesuKnack:
Very interesting debate going on here. So refreshing to read the views.

I still think the UK needs to be tough, very very tough on the issue of illegal migration and the issues of small boats crossings. The PM promised to ‘smash the gangs’ I hope he will smash the gangs much sooner rather than latter.

As a (legal) migrant myself, I find it outrageous and to be honest, appalling that any country in the world should follow the UK model.

a. You allow illegal migrants to get to your shores in small boats (the argument that some are genuine asylum seekers is for another day).

b. You spend £8,000,000:00 every SINGLE day on hotels for these arrivals. 2024 is a leap year. 366 days.
£8,000,000:00 x 366 = £2,928,000,000:00 per year (read: Two Billion, Nine Hundred and Twenty Eight Million Pound Sterlings) on ‘Migrant hotels’ ALONE.

c. You can’t train homegrown nurses. A& E units are full to the brim. You even take away winter allowance for your pensioners. You cry everyday about budget black holes. You tax the people. You increase taxes. You can’t lift the cap on 2-child benefits etc…


While what these rioters are doing in places is extremely abominable, I hope the UK govt will take immediate steps to solve some of the immediate/root cause(s) of the riots.


Full Disclosure: I 100% supported the defunct “Rwanda Scheme”.

The number of people who came in using dinghy is less than those of us that flew in. I still believe HO made a wrong prediction about the net migration.

Let’s not forget this people are the natives and they can tell if the demography has change in their eyes and they have the right to seek redress but, the way they went about it is flawed.

jedisco:
Not confirmed but if true, how has Japan fared since? Their population is dropping quickly but still their citizens are no better off today than 30yrs ago. They are increasingly looking outward and increasing migration. No one is arguing for unregulated migration here.

There is a reason the west has remained an economic powerhouse

Japan stock market is experiencing an all time low even nyse shares are dropping. I think there is more going on in the world we still don’t know about. Unrest in mid east , immigrants invading south uSA boarder and Europe, protest in Bangladesh and the jokes going on in Nigeria, Elon building space ship to start colony in mars.

We should all stay on the streets and look after ourselves, at the end of the day we are minority.

Zahra29:
Lol, you think?

Before the Tories clamped down on benefits fraud, I know of a number of Nigerians who had claimed more than one council property and were renting them out. Some were even renting them out room by room in London. Imagine the profit at tax payers expense. Many are still living in council homes that they are no longer eligible for or need, but free money is difficult to forego init. There are as many young black girls with children who rely on benefits and housing support as white Brits. Some deliberately have babies before they turn 18 or 21 as it's easier to get a council house and other "perks" at that age.

If immigrants had recourse to public funds, let's not pretend that they would not be claiming everything claimable, so it's not just a white Brits issue.

Bolded part is true especially in London. They copy most of it from white. I totally understand benefit for women with kids but those fit to work who simply decides not to is where I draw the line.

Plus I blame Dr who issue fit note to them.

Zahra29:
And these ones will be dealt with by the law as well. Hopefully there will be arrests on all sides as there have also been attacks and mob violence from the MDF in places like Bolton.

My point is that the underlying issues will not go away - unless they are addressed by the government, it's only a matter of time before the next protest or something worse happens.

I hope you also realise that that there are many black and ethnic people who don't work and who rely on benefits - aka benefits scroungers. Even the immigrants who are able to claim benefits do so happily e.g. Poles and Bulgarians. Some have become experts in scamming the benefits system. Not sure why the term benefits scroungers is reserved solely for white Brits lol.

The benefit is not the enough for them. They are now demanding for houses to be built plus the high cost of mortgage is not helping.

Black people on benefit are small compare to the Brits. What’s going can only be controlled for the time being but it will resurface in no distant time.

ehizario2012:
Wow, riots right here at Manvers, Holiday Inn, almost all its window glasses broken already. It is well.

This is why I keep advocating for a better Nigeria. If you think without ILR you are immune to certain things in a white man land, then you are on a long thing.

Make Nigeria great Again 😂

ReesheesuKnack:
A defining characteristic of far right people or far-left people is that they think anyone who is not in their far-camp is an ignoramus.

Enough said.

Why is the term far right and far left suddenly everywhere.

jedisco:
As I said, this can be a touchy subject. First, I have had struggles with my mental health needing to take time off work to sort it and I quite often advise people to take some time off and understand some who are burnt out might need extended periods off work to recover. I returned to work due to a number of reasons among which are- I would earn significantly more in work than out of work, I might have ended up having my contract terminated and possibly had to return back home and lastly, having longterm periods doing nothing would have had a debilitating effect on my mental health as is largely the case. My work is not easy and sometimes sees me working outdoors overnight in the thick of winter. I would much rather be sipping mojito on an islandic beach if I could.

Before blaming GPs, its important to understand the benefit system in the UK which is something many legal immigrants would largely be unaware of except they work in certain roles or after being here for a good period. In your words, why do you think some 'who doesn't need fit notes keep coming for them'? A specialist referral should be offered if indicated and appropriate irrespective of if one seeks a fit note or not. Not too long ago, GPs had to push back at hospitals for asking people who had been seen in hospital to present to their GP for a fit (sick) note. The DWP should ideally call in most people who have been offsick for a few months for an assessment. How often do they do that? Even the job centre sometimes advises people to present to their GP for a fit note (rightly sometimes). Lastly, a fit note does not mean you cannot work. You can be given a fit note for 6 weeks and decide to return back to work after a week if you feel you are able to.
You don't need a psychiatrist or a doctor to tell you you're not fit to work. You can self-certify for a week and a nurse, physio etc can extend that for a good period. What would interest you to know is that virtually no doctor all thru medical school and in specialty training (aside a few in occupational health perhaps) receive specific training in deciding who is fit to work or not.

You fail to understand that there is a societal aspect to the benefit system and that would not be solved by medicine. I keep asking if you've had any interaction with the benefit system in person. You can start by walking to an active council estate on a Monday morning and offering a bi-weekly psychiatrist appointments to folks with mental health concerns with aim to take away benefits and see how many knives you may leave with. The Tories floated the idea of offering therapy after a stint in place of benefits for those with mild-moderate mental health issues. Guess their response? They rightly said the government should not dictate when and how they recover. I have strongly argued for the social safety net in the West but knowledgeable enough to highlight its drawbacks when out of control.

I laugh at the government should not dictate how and when they recover. They always have excuses to give, the benefit system is a big black hole. I don’t blame them anyways in the land of plenty such is bound to happen.

What do i know? Make I jejely Face my Nigerian business

AgentXxx:
Lexus for Nigeria president 🙌🏾(As least we can be assured for a well managed and opportunistic economy)… Baba for the boys, I have downloaded it asap but this one it is looking like black market as you don’t know what you will be getting. Anyway to do this or any App that does it. Make say no to wastage no no end up being wasted as local man wey I be. 😂

Most of the food on there are expired or near rotten.

Who is following the Rachel Reeves and Tommy Robinson news.

Lexusgs430:
Are you already running scared.......😜🤣

How i go pay bills if dem hijack my shifts?

Lexusgs430:
Not a penny would be spared..... 🤣😂

Thank you, Auntie..... 😁

Let's also not forget, the biggest scrounges of the benefits system, is actually the British Royal Family.......🤣😂

The King is slashing royal cost i heard.

jedisco:
Lol... after blaming 14 years of Tory government and the NHS for not babysitting them, they ran to Labour not expecting this. Afterall, Kier Stammer had mocked Rishi at the idea of 'British fruit pickers'. One wonders who'd pick our fruits then.

All this while, the correlation between the number of folks on longterm sick and immigration has not stuck. The entitlement is mind boggling. A growing number want to be on benefits for a good chunk of their working life, make kids, get housed by the council, and in old age get prenuim care off other people's taxes.

Hope its not the shift immigrants are packing they want to force them to do

AgentXxx:
Congratulations bro…. Where there is a will, there is a way 🙌🏾

Boss check your messages

Lexusgs430:
I feel my UK knowledge & experience is now completely uploaded to this thread + more knowledgeable people, so time to take a back seat....... 😁😂

I know when to retire (unlike tinubu)....... 😁😂

You still dey naija?

Lexusgs430:
I hear people on disability benefits, are not happy with the labour party(because they are work-shy)....... 🤣😂

Green shoots are abound....... 😁💚🤣

Everyone MUST be made to work....... 😁

The question is will they work?

budaatum:
They can't obviously teach all history, but they do teach a lot of history here, at least compared to some places. And there's always libraries and books and telly where a lot of history can be seen. There's even a whole month dedicated to Black History, so I'd even go as far as claiming quite a lot of "British colonial racist past" is taught, which really can't not be taught since some pesky kid from India or Kenya or Jamaica or Nigeria or even Ireland would raise the "British colonial racist past" as a topic in class and cause it to be discussed. And the intention of teaching about it is so students learn to not be racist and stupid now.

Below is from the history curriculum.

You mean the whitewashed history they teach in school this days. The only place they get to know the truth about their history is on social media.

budaatum:
"Liberalism or advances in thought are not always guaranteed to change" anything.

Education, however, the sort of education that promotes the development and use of the mind to think and reason, does change a lot "the underlying nature of the human being" or at least that of most who are successfully educated, and the British do educate their young well.

Still, 2029 soon come. Well see then if we are as ignorant as electing Reform would suggest we are or if we've overcome the xenophobia that made us leave Europe.


Britain is not France, and the UK education system is class and it is location and it is how knowledgeable one is to know to chose it and definitely not egalitarian at all. You will however learn history whatever school you go, and be shown the ignorance of past racism and the predominant preferred attitude today.

You'd even be asked to sign up to antidiscrimination laws if you wanna work, and nothing makes people align better than hitting money in their pockets.

The closest Britain would get to Trump is Boris, I reckon.

They dont teach certain history in schools here. Especially history that talks about British colonial racist past.

AgentXxx:
Are you living in London? Are you happy to work 5days in the office for the first 5 to 6months? If Yes to both then send your Cv

NB: it is a junior IT Engineer role. No Sponsorship included.

Yes I live in LDN.

Check inbox

AgentXxx:
He has been terminated yesterday and my manager told me the reason which he didn’t tell me earlier. He slagged me to some colleagues at work using offensive words like C*** etc and those one reported to HR which is automatic termination according to HR policy. I was even pitying him before I was told his offence and I let him leave with some IT peripherals I purchased for him. He did send me a text this morning apologising. We are out looking for a replacement.

CAN I SEND MY CV?

erico2k2:
From my personal experience, I can tell you this for free, ,The UK employer give less attention to your certificate, They focus more on Experience cos most of your interview questions will be case studies. So how do one give answer to a case study when they don't have any personal or gone fru situation where they could use such as a case study?. Unless such job is at entry level then I don't know,
PS .Some Employers even go as far as even saying things like UK experience!

My current roadblock is the damn uk experience.

Zarha and others with interview experience, i need advice on how to answer their behavior questions. Did an interview with them that didn't pan out well. I need pointers in answering their question. Are there any buzzwords to use ?

Schoolhike:
Make sure you understand essential criteria very well, understand the behavioral questions to be asked, have scenarios to explain them all.

Good luck.

What do you mean by essential criteria?

missjekyll:
1 certain, 2 likely, 3 maybe

Time will tell. 1 down 2 to go.

By the way I did not vote as I’m utterly confused & unsure of this Kia motors bloke.

missjekyll:
Is anyone else sort of hiding their face in both hands and peering in between their fingers at the goings on in France and US?

What if Marine Le Pen wins? I understand why macron called the elections but if brexit taught me anything,it's never call people's bluff. You ll always lose to the populists especially if they are racist and anti-immigration.
France and Germany are the pillars of the EU.what will become of the EU?

What in the world were those 6 US supreme court judges thinking?
Presidents are not kings and should not have immunity. They just validated an argument agent orange pulled out of his fundament.
Can Biden fight this election?

The only consolation is the centrist government we hope to vote in on Thursday .
Andrew Marr thinks that with the rest of Europe voting in freaking fascists, we will see an influx of business and cash as the only sane country in the mad mix.
That's my glimmer of hope.

Be vote ready

https://tacticalvote.co.uk/

Forgot to recommend a podcast "the news agents". By Emily maitlis, Jon sopel ,Lewis goodall.

Gosh,I absolutely love it. Do check it out on YouTube or wherever you get your podcast jedisco justwise

Sunak, Macron and Biden are going to lose in the coming elections.

Expat or expert, tomato or tomatoes 😂

jedisco:
Another is the cliché common in certain nations- 'we need high skilled immigrants not Bleep'.
The entitlement with which its said leaves me wondering. Like immigrants are groceries on a shelf to select and pick from as need be. Who then retains the 'bad fruit'? Odd thing is that many nations brand themselves this way which manytimes flies in the face of what the do.

An economy needs the skills it lacks - be it in care, teaching, nursing, IT, masonry, drivers e.t.c
I dont know of any nation that can easily absorb 1000 brain surgeons or astronauts.

P.S. this is not saying a nation should not target the skill they need but blaming poor economic outcomes on the 'quality' of immigrants they take reeks of an absurd entitlement and classism.

In a way the highly skilled worker they meant are our politicians that brings stolen funds into their economy to buy mansions and pay for their kids tuition from crèche to university.