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There is no point in saying you have weight in a place you can't win one percent of the electoral posts available. Before you can say you have weight, you must be winning a substantial portion of positions available already or don't you think so?. Yorubas will not take Igbos seriously unless they can win five percent of Lagos posts or why should they? Responding to posts online isn't the same as taking people seriously.

Then anybody can make any claim. I can say the Yorubas are more successful than Igbos in Enugu, Abs, Onitsha or PH. Once you are not required to prove what you say you can say anything. Your mouth is your bond servant.

Igbos don't have any dollar billionaire in Lagos
They also don't have anybody worth up to 900 million dollars. If you go to 800 million dollars it is also the same thing but you will say it is the territory where there is no census that Igbos dominate? Nobody is obliged to believe you but you are free to talk. I don't believe Igbos who are worth even 500k are up to the half of the Yoruba who are worth 500k because the population of the Yoruba is much more than double the Igbo population and everybody is working

KobolanderSegun:
You are very uninformed the British found a very primitive area Called Lagos that had people living in huts and tiny buildings. The first One story building in Nigeria was created by CMS Christian Missionary Society in 1842. The Africans had never seen a one storey building In their lives before the British showed up. See this person talking about Ibadan getting the first University..... If the British had never come to Nigeria NIgerians would be walking around barefooted up till tomorrow. Even the Portuguese who came to Lagos as far back as 1600 did not build one story buildings but created the first brick buildings in Lagos

Portuguese trade with Lagos before colonial timesPortuguese trade with Lagos before colonial times Before the imposition of colonial rule, Portuguese trade with Lagos centered on the transatlantic slave trade and was facilitated by the Kingdom of Benin. Portuguese explorers first arrived in 1472, but established a formalized trading port in Lagos during the 1760s, exchanging manufactured European goods for enslaved people and local cloth.

Key Aspects of the TradeInitial Contact and Bypassing: When Portuguese navigators first explored the coast, they bypassed the small fishing settlements (then known as Eko) and went directly to trade with the Kingdom of Ijebu.The Benin Connection: By the 16th century, the Benin Empire established a military camp in the area. Lagos became a tributary of Benin, and the Oba (king) of Benin controlled the region's early diplomatic and commercial engagement with European powers.

The Slave Trade Boom:

By the 1760s, Lagos emerged as a major Atlantic port primarily due to the rise of prominent Portuguese merchants—such as Francisco Felix da Souza—who established extensive networks there. The Portuguese traded items like cowrie shells, tobacco, alcohol, and textiles in exchange for captives.

The Naming of Lagos: The indigenous Awori people originally called the settlement Eko. Because of the swampy terrain and surrounding network of lagoons, the Portuguese named the area Lagos de Curamo, after the coastal maritime hub of Lagos in southern Portugal.

The trade fundamentally transformed the region, allowing local rulers to amass significant wealth and influence before the British bombarded and annexed Lagos in the mid-19th century.

The Portuguese where the ones who gave Lagos it's name.

So storey building is your metric for civilization?;There are storey buildings all over built as at when needed. Among the ruins at Ijebu Eredo a three storey building ruin was identified as the palace. If you go to the old Oyo national park, you will see the ruins of storey buildings. In Hausa land today there are still ancient storey buildings. In Timbuctu they are there. You can't have an urban center without storey buildings. What is the big deal in building a storey building? If you have an urban center, you will have storey buildings there
We build in mud that crumble quickly but we still have buildings existing in Yoruba land today still being lived in that were built over one thousand years ago and that are more sturdy than today's buildings. None of today's buildings can last one thousand years. The palace in Akure is over one thousand years old

So Lagos was not a primitive village. It was a city of merchants, well defended by cannons, with huge markets, well educated leaders who knew the world and had relations with South America and Europe. If not that the British were invited they may not have stormed the city.
Lagos was founded according to my research with IFA by a combination of Benin and Ijesa for the purpose of exporting palm oil and they were granted land by the Awori. The Ijesa gave their two slots of foremen to the Portuguese and because of that two chiefs in Lagos are of Portuguese origin while two are Benin. The descendant of the Ijesa priest who went with them was later made King. When the British took Lagos, the language they transacted in would have been Portuguese. So they were a modern state by all ramifications though small.

I initially did not want to reply or further indulge you but I later did so

mikeapollo:
You are the one confused!
'Jews'' does not mean only those who practice Judaism.
Jesus Christ was a Jew, yet he did not practice Judaism. Descendants of the tribe of Judah (a key tribe in Israel and the most dominant at a time) are generally referred to as Jews

What did Jesus practice? His parents were Jews. All his disciples were Jews. His girlfriend was a Jew. He went to synagogue and observed Jewish holidays and customs. He was a Jew. It is those who worship him that are not Jews. He himself was a Jew. Preaching what the Jews consider heresy does not mean he was not a Jew. Are there no Christian groups today that have their own distinct theology?

saintkel:
Obi won Lagos and rivers convincingly, as for who won overall, I don't know but there r 3 states with high electoral turn out.....; Lagos, Rivers n Kano and Obi won 2....we should all pretend Tinubu won

Winning Lagos with ten thousand votes is marginal and not convincingly nor is it massively. Then Rivers does not have the number of voters of many states, the only thing it can have is more voter turn out and LP lost Rivers convincingly as well. You complain of rigging as if it is that easy to rig elections.

Because of the population of the two zones, you hardly can become President if you performed woefully in both the NW and the SW during a Presidential election

dederocs:
Lies, Islam started with barbarity, ottomans were barbarians.

If you have a holy book that must not be questioned, that is always the end result. If your culture accepts any holy book, that will be the end result

Mohammed himself never knew during his life time that the Turks could become Muslims but they eventually did. Mohammed actually prophesied that a sign of the end times will be that the Muslims will fight the Turks and defeat them

Instead of fighting the Muslims as prophesied by Mohammed, the Turks themselves became the Muslims fighting other people. They became the Barbarians as became Constantine's Rome the first state that adopted religion because if you keep it to yourself as did the Jews, it may not qualify to be called a religion

Tenses:
Christianity was practiced for hundreds of years before the birth of Islam. That singular fact, rubbished all you have just said.

There was a time it was not a state religion. There was a time they had to hide to practice and there was spiritual tranquility as at then. Then it became a state religion, then a branch of it called non trinitarian Syrian Christianity metamorphosed into Islam and we are still in the mess caused by both the foundation and the offshoot today

Tenses:
Are the Jews not 1million miles ahead of the Egyptians as of today.

Was it not a jew of a certain Joseph that helped Egypt prepare for the drought and famine to come?

Does it wonder you that the most civilised societies practice Christianity.

There was a time the highest number of civilized societies practiced Islam.
There was also a time Christians were barbarians who burned people at the stake, over a hundred thousand of them for being witches and they also sentenced scientists to death for making true statements that oppose church doctrine.

Look for another reason for the orderliness in the western world as it is not Christianity. They were barbarians when they were under Christianity. You can't but be a barbarian if your constitution is the Bible

If you try to do something really important that benefits a large number of people, some people will not only oppose it, they will try to kill you

New odus of ifa June 16 2026.

Oturupon Irosun

A handful of people do not need a king. Even a thousand can always gather at the village square but a great multitude will need a team with a head permanently on duty as decision makers

This was the ifa cast for the Earth and shared to the heavens on the day Olodumare became their king

They were advised to sacrifice
They listened and complied
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!

It was when spirits became numerous that one of them became God. The total number of spirits in heaven was originally two


Owonrin Irosun

Vision is better than hustle

This was the IFA cast for Alagbara ma Mero baba ole. The one with immense strength and resources but with no vision who ended up worse than who chose not to work

He was advised to sacrifice
He listened but did not comply
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
Vision is more important than hustle.


Oturupon Ogunda

The appearance of poverty is what I choose to sell

It was the IFA cast for the crafty beggar who lived a luxurious lifestyle in secret funded by begging despite that begging should be just to survive and not to flex or grow


Ogunda Irosun

Money not making money is money going down the drain

This was the IFA cast for the person in business who made huge monies and invested it in a rental property to make more money instead of spending it on a huge private mansion


Ogunda Oturupon

Eat well out of your harvest before you keep any for sowing

This was the ifa cast for the happy go lucky business person, a man of the people who made money and spent most of it to impress onlookers


Odi Otura

Your sleeping, your waking, the target is growth.
Nothing proves someone is efficient more than successfully leading a public company to growth

This was the IFA cast for the successful CEO of a public company who transformed into a national leader because of proven and undoubted efficiency

Irosun Ogbe

A table on three legs is more stable than one on just one leg

This was the IFA cast for the business venture that expanded because of it's broad stakeholder ship.

It was advised to sacrifice
It listened and complied

Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
In whatever you are doing, be open to partnerships


Oturupon Okanran

If something works here and it does not work there, it is because there is a fundamental problem to solve

This was the IFA cast for the Nigerians complaining that the port in Onne in Rivers state is not busy while the ones in Lagos are busy

Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
The ports in Onne are not busy because the nearby cities are not very sizeable. If PH contained 20 million people, Onne port will be very busy. Get more people first inside nearby cities and the port in Onne will become more viable


Oturupon Irete

The owner of prime property will become who every prospective tenant is seeking to meet

This was the ifa cast for the entrepreneur who would become rich because people want his services.
On the day he was coming from heaven to Earth.
He was advised to sacrifice
He listened and complied
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!

If you have something people want, you will become sought after.

Iwori Otura

Strategy is what ensures a good ending from any kind of beginning. When you have a good one, the obstacles on your way and where you started from will matter very little

It was the IFA cast for Akin Lawanson who refused to write off all Nigerian leaders as bad and corrupt when his started his crusade to change Nigeria

He was advised to sacrifice
He listened and complied
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
When the word is everybody is bad, it is best to go with nobody is bad.
A good strategy will turn all obstacles to stepping stones while adversity and adversaries are turned to catalysts

How the SW have been short changed by the current 1999 constitution

Using the SE as a template because it is the smallest zone and using NIN registration data to compare the population size of states and zones, though if you use other data like voter registration and active phone lines etc you will get the same results

It shows that Lagos is more than 120 percent of the SE by population and this means Lagos should be at least six states.

Oyo state also by the same metric should be at least two states

Ogun should be at least two states

Osun and Ondo can remain one state each
Ekiti too can remain one state

The total is thirteen states and since a state like Ebonyi state is just a bonus state then the number of states that the SW should have if the SE has five should actually be more than thirteen

If population were considered, this is the right number of states for the SW to have if the SE which is the smallest zone should have five whole states. The same argument can be made for the NW and it will come up with an even higher number of states than the SW while other zones will be lower than the SW.

If we now use tax paid to determine representation at the center then the SW should take forty percent of whatever is the total number of states in Nigeria which amounts to 14.4 states out of 36

It is on this kind of basis that you can say states in Nigeria are equal and that a President elect should win 25 percent in a certain number of states before he can be declared winner. Any other formula is unacceptable. If you want to alter it then bring the revenue to the center. Speak through your industry.

However states are not supposed to be equal. They don't need to be equal as big states can exist alongside smaller states. The representation at the center must however reflect the variance in both the GDP and the population between states.

Then all non Yorubas living in Yoruba land are cancelled out by Yoruba living in other places all over the country in their millions. If there are seven million non natives in the SW, there will be more than that number of Yorubas scattered all over the country.

The SW has six states for now but should have at least thirteen states if the SE has five if population were considered and 14.4 if the total is 36 if revenue generated were considered.

I did not include the Yoruba in the NC and the SS in my calculations at all.

So that is the extent to which the Yoruba of the SW have been shortchanged in Nigeria as everything in Nigeria is shared according to the number of states

The best way forward that I support is a disintegration of the country but any federal union is best set up in the way I described so that every unit will be actively competing for people to live on their land.

Northsouth:
yes o my number one enemy self
Because terrorists are kidnapping and killing people
They are calling it banditary
Imagine that audacity to play on intellectuals intelligence

The government cannot secure both our lives and properties and they are saying you should neither arm yourself not take laws into your own hands
What laws?
They same lame laws that makes us sitting ducks

Ah don tire for the country
Even the Masses that are suffering the most are not even understanding the point
Na the same Majority wey Carry the vote dey suffer

Chai

Only three types of people are against the decentralization of security in all it's ramifications

Those who have not thought about it properly
Those who are looking for a chance to rule others by force and dictate to them on their lands.
Those who do not want the country to break up.

Northsouth:
Even me self I know

No be only u self know ma

U see
Any idea by any leader or anybody of these country today aside disintegration
Na wayo and e no go help anything
All na scam

Full restructuring self is irrelevant
We need to divide the country and have different nations that will be speaking one native language

Nigeria is not one

Thank you. Whoever does not want you to arm yourself even as an individual despite that you are a responsible person not to talk of as a group running into millions is your enemy.

Rhymesy:
Transportation fee will still be costly. Shey na Naija we dey. Nothing goes up and come down again

Price will always come down when cost of production comes down. It may not be immediately but overtime. Price can even be forced down by just oversupply. All markets behave the same way unless it is a monopoly

Babanah:
We have to be a bit creative about this lingering problem. We don’t need state policing . What we need is a decentralised Nigerian Police. Power should be devolved to the Police Commissioners in the states. The IG cannot run the police from Abuja. Second funding should come from the three tiers of government. So the state police commissioner will prepare his budget based on funding input from the three tiers of government.The federal government may pay salaries, the state governments in charge of building infrastructure and local governments could maintain for the benefit of the local population. Also the state police commissioner will only be appointed after prior consultation with the state government, conversely if the state police commissioner is not up to the job, the state governor can publicly declare that he has lost confidence in the state police commissioner. In that case there are checks and balances.

Let those who want to arm themselves to break away do so! After all what is the big deal? When it is not as if they are feeding you. People on government payroll in this country are not up to three million of the almost 100 million working age people. If they breakaway are they going with your local government? Please security first. Most states have enough population to be a country

Omoawoke:
So since you know a single idea from one person can change more than a country- where’s your single idea?? Don’t you want to change Nigeria?

It is in Nigeria that when you see a foreigner, you worship them based on their nationalities…

There are also people in other countries with low exposure and lQ that act that way of treating foreigners based on what they look like or come from but the irony is that they hate you once they sight you…
But you Nigerians/black Africans love anything foreign and automatically believe they are better, lmao

Even losers and rejects from other countries know they can catch your women easily once they look foreign…

But those people mostly belong to the streets, just like the South African xenophobes… those people you see looting shops and attacking black migrants are never do wells..


You don’t have to even be in the calibre of Victor Osihmen, or Wizkid or Dangote… just at middle class level, have a good education, good career and you will mingle easily with people from other nationalities and they will give you your full respect…

So basic common sense does not tell you it is ideas that bring change and that an idea can come only from one person at a time? And you think you are intelligent?

Your main talking point here is dividing people based on color of the skin and the only departure is recent as a result of what happened in SA. And you talk about people with low IQ? You lump all Africans together. Is that a sign of high IQ? Are all Africans the same? Are they under the same government? They don't even have the same HDI or GDP per Capita. Even all Nigerians are not the same.

You made a sensible comment a while ago the substance of which I can't remember and that was why I followed you but I have now unfollowed you

Omoawoke:
So what have you done to fix your country?

No individual is responsible for “fixing” an entire country of millions or hundreds of millions of people.


And to you theory, that’s a big lie

On the ladder of respect, the kind of person you are and achievements eventually determines how people will respect and treat you even if you come from the most failed country in the world…

Most people are judged by their actions, accomplishments, and values, not by the successes or failures of governments they do not control.

I really believe many of you haven’t interacted with people of other nationalities and have poor exposure so I won’t blame you for this myopic mindset…

What have I done?
Nobody in Nigeria or that is a Nigerian has worked harder than me in the last two decades.
It is surprising you don't know people from working countries are automatically respected even before you get to know them well. I wonder the extent of what else you do not know

One person can not change a country of millions? No individuals that have a sense of responsibility can bring change and they are the only ones who can. Not a crowd.

You are traveled as I gather but you don't have a broad mind. Yet you say I am myopic? If you were not myopic you would have known that a single idea from one person can change not only a country of millions but the whole world.

blackpanda:
And who will fund the State Police States that are owing months in salaries to their workers or the Federal Government?
if its Federal Government, then it means nothing has changed. if its States , from where will they get the funds
In the end the State police will enventually become more unknown gunmen

Is that your headache? It shouldn't be. Let those who are ready to spend money on security do so while others continue to spend money on unnecessary things like Hajj and etc. Nobody is saying all states should have police by force

Omoawoke:
When people talk like this, I realize they are unexposed, uncivil and somehow lozers that haven’t travelled the world and understand how the world works.


Do you think people migrate because their counties aren’t fixed?

I understand it’s about your exposure level…

I hope you save some little change up and get to travel and explore one or two places and realize that even in that same US, you will meet migrants from Canada, Uk, Germany, Italy, India , China .
That’s how the world works, people migrate from place to place for different reasons..

Pls you need to upgrade your mindset

Nobody will respect you if your country is not fixed and why should they?

Is there any country where people are not complaining? What is the solution?

There is no country where people are not complaining and what they need is financial security, good wages, high human development index and good infrastructure

The last three just needs a very high government revenue to GDP ratio to be achievable in any country.

The first one ie financial security can only be achievable by statutorily requiring all workers probably including citizens and non citizens to save and invest and financial security is the only thing that can really give people peace of mind. If you meet someone that is always confident, it is often because they have saved a pile of money somewhere

In conclusion, no matter where you live and work on Earth, you will continue to complain unless you have financial security and the only thing the government can do to help in that regard is not to increase your pay but to compel you to save and invest.

If insecurity is the problem then restructuring is just grammar. What is needed is the decentralization of security

State police
Local government police
University police and etc
And private security firms for profit
All armed with military grade weapons

Restructuring can not by any means solve the security challenge of the country if the proliferation of security outfits is not part of it..

Then the main fault in the constitution is how the representation at the center is shared followed by the issue of security. The natural resources not put there by anybody is not something worth fretting about that much. There are other faults though. However the issue of security is very urgent

nairalanda1:
If you Nigerians had allowed subsidy removal before 2023, by now you would have had more refineries, and dangote won't be dictating the price.

NO one go refine fuel when a subsidy is in place, because banks won't lend you money for refinery building. Dangote was an exception because he had other lucrative businesses that he could use as collateral.

You can refine fuel when subsidy is in place. There is demand for the fuel. The only occasion you can't refine fuel is when government is refining fuel and does not want profit. There is a difference.

Government can not leave a refinery in Nigeria and go outside to buy unless the local refinery is selling too high

Then the opportunity was there but the vision was lacking. There are many entities that can build refineries in the country and many have done so already. Only that Dangote's is the biggest. I believe he built the biggest because when you scale your expenses will drop.

The office is diversionary. Face the work you were employed for is the best way. Can the MD of a big company be appointing a first lady? The governor is just a CEO and there is no reason to have a separate budget for the office of the first lady in any constituency since such first ladies also have their own occupation

nairalanda1:
The only thing preventing refineries from being built was subsidy, also the thing that wrecked NNPC refineries was subsidy too.

You cannot refine fuel at a certain cost, and then have government force you to sell it below the production cost, and pay you a subsidy that does not even cover your resultant losses.

Not when refineries need imported components and stuff.

Subsidy should have gone decades ago. The last chance we had was in 2012. You guys did not listen.

Government can't force you to sell at any price and neither should they force anybody to buy from you. You should pay all relevant tax and government can then impose a tariff on importers for sometime

nairalanda1:
I remember you were opposing subsidy removal, and you probably think it was a disaster.

Well, government NOT removing subsidy for decades, until the rising debt resulting forced tinubu to remove it (alongside lenders refusing to borrow money to fill the budget deficit)....is why dangote is the only game player in town

If subsidy had gone in 2012, when you and your fellow nigerians were protesting , by now we would have had a lot of refineries up and running. The refusal to remove subsidy then left people like Dangote as the only one whom banks and lenders were willing to lend money to build his refinery (before you shout government...Dangote spent 20 billion dollars on the refinery, only 3 billion came from CBN and government)...because if Dangote defaults, they pay themselves back from his other businesses.

No one is going to invest in a refinery where there are price controls.Because the purpose of investing is to make money, not to do charity for people. Everything that goes into making a refinery work is imported, plus workers must be paid very very well . But you guys kept on crying for subsidy anytime government wanted to remove it. That wrecked the NNPC refineries because they were being forced to run at a loss in the name of subsidy. That is why they cannot work today.

Or to put it this way, subsidy prevents refineries from making enough profit.

Next time, not every government decision is oppressive. Some are, not all.

If you built a refinery when government refinery was working you can or may incur shortages depending on many factors but if you built a refinery during subsidy you can't incur any shortage. That must be understood. Government or the marketers would just buy from you as they were buying from the international market and if your own is far more expensive then they won't or why should they?

izzou:
You are trying so hard to win an argument, but it's okay.

The court saw the Unity of AAC and agreed they shouldn't be deregistered.

If you are totally right about the reason the ADC was deregistered then the AAC too will be deregistered by any court in Nigeria if there is a petition to that effect before it.

It just shows that the constitution you are under that you submit to is nothing but a rude joke

izzou:
The comparison is based on the judgement passed.

ADC was deregistered because they failed to win any political seat in 2023.

AAC failed to win any too, so why wasn't it deregistered? Has Leadership got anything to do with this?

If that is the only reason then it of course can not stand but for the court to make any such pronouncement at all is because there was a litigation before the court that mentioned ADC and not AAC which still goes back to the problem of unity.

So AAC have no issues because they are united

Actually any union with financial members and a budget should be able to function as a political party. That should be the base criterion. Then maybe they should have an address anywhere they are contesting elections

izzou:
You did not bother to read the judgement, and you're arguing on it?

Na wa!

The judgement has absolutely nothing to do with leadership.

You just have to read first, before you argue, or at least use Google

I can do that later. What I responded to is the comparison between AAC and the deregistered parties

Heffalump:
The FG thru the NMDPRA needs to sit with Dangote to workout a pump price mechanism that's sustainable. The idea of Dangote taking the entire country to the cleaners due to small variation in crude oil price is not good for our economy in the global picture. He is a businessman, but he must understand that Nigeria will have to survive before his business can thrive. Dangote is a greedy man to the core driven by his investment partners who share the same characteristics.

If you can give him low interests on loans he will give you cheaper fuel. He is not raising price to punish Nigerians but to pay back loans or interests on loans

izzou:
The suit did not deregister ADC because of any issues with party leadership

I did not bother to read the judgement but there was a dispute is why they were in court. The ADC in particular did not conduct themselves very well at all. They should have been able to stay under one umbrella and it would not have been able to affect the results of any genuine primary election because why exactly should who the chairman is matter? And there are provisions in any party constitution to remove any chairman at any time. So the ADC in particular are complicit in whatever fate has befallen them

Don't bring the AAC into the argument. They don't have weight but are united

BlueRayDick:
Let's even assume there's a law that says parties who don't meet some criteria should be deregistered. What are the criteria AAC fulfil that parties like ADC, Accord and ZLP has not fulfilled?

The main difference is that AAC members do not have any dispute in any court over party leadership

As it is said 'Lizards can only hide in walls that are already cracked'.