₦airaland Forum

ZombidiotFools:
The problem isn't that Tinubu can't secure SW, he can if he wants to.
The problem is that he doesn't want to, I've been following this very closely.
Like I said earlier, I didn't vote for him because he's Yoruba, I voted for him because I believed he was the best among the candidates. I'm an exposed person, and I have grown past basic human sentiments.

For Tinubu to decentralize Security, the only thing he needs is to send prayers into the mail of lawmakers, they will sign the bill.

But I believe there are Elephants behind the scene who are against it, have you heard of state police since then? Rather 744 terrorists were released instead.

what Nigeria need is a president that can look at the Fulani hegemony and call it bluff, and Tinubu has shown he's not that person.
As hard as it is to admit, only the Igbos have shown it time without numbers that they don't bow for them.

Tinubu has from now till January to retake his steps. But luckily for him, there are many sentimental people to vote for him.
The future doesn't look bright.

This tweet was made in 2022, and it sadly looks like true.

The only solution is a break up of the country or who do you want to vote as President? It is better to fight for a breakup and fail than to do anything else

Mrexcell:
So what about the recent loans worth over $1b tinibu took from the UK to modernise lagos ports who is going to pay back those loans is it the lagos state govt?

They make more than one billion dollars per annum from the ports. Any money put there or in the oil sector is to make more money and that does not negate the reality that the oil states are being paid derivation while port states are not paid

Mrexcell:
Only stating the hard facts nothing is stupid here show me the proofs that nigeria used the north groundnut oil money to develop oil wells in the niger niger? If the western region had a budget of 55m pounds how then did the nigerian state preferred to rely on ground nut oil money from the north with a mere budget of just 7m pounds instead of going to the western region with enough wealth to take funds if we are to even believe this ur story? It doesn't make any sense to me.

You don't understand. People say federal money was used to develop oil resources but it is a stupid assertion because the regions controlled oil before the resource control decree. The idea that oil resources built Lagos ports is even more stupid because Lagos is a natural port that was very busy centuries before the formation of Nigeria

360who:
And you are not even from Lagos. I know becos the people from Lagos aren't the ones always claiming Lagos and starting ish. Its always the ones from Ogun, Osun, Ondo and Ekiti that drag Lagos the most.

Lagosians lived peacefully with their guests and neighbours for yrs until the ones from the aforementioned villages migrated to Lagos and started all this chaos.

They imported nuisance and tribalism just like their president who stole Lagos but is originally from Osun

The Yoruba have actually been living together as one country for millenia but each sub group control their land. The ancestor of the current Oba of Lagos was an Awo from Ijesa who was among the team that founded Lagos island. His name is Baba Alagbaa. He wanted to return to Ijesa but the people begged him to stay and went forward to build him a palace called Iga Alagbaa, he married a princess and theirvson was Ologunkutere who is the founder of the compound of the current Lagos Kings. That was centuries ago and check how far Osun is from Lagos. In my family in the same Ijesa we have relatives in Epe Lagos where the half brother of my grandfather belong to and his father was also Ijesa who obviously settled in Epe as an Osomaalo or hire purchase merchant. There is also Ijesatedo in Lagos that predate Nigeria. If not for state creation by the military, we will all be in one state

Mrexcell:
No lagos ought to show gratitude and appreciation to the nigerian state and to the people of the niger delta for developing those lagos ports with nigeria's collective oil resources and also allowing lagos to monopolise port activities in nigeria for decades. The nigerian state also has other port options in other states but choosed to massively develop lagos ports first.

You are insulting Lagos but it is not your fault. Why can't you say the oil states should show gratitude to the North for using groundnut money to do oil exploration? What you said is more stupid than that because there were ports in Lagos centuries before Nigeria. In 1960 the western region had a budget of 55 million pounds East had 12 million pounds and North had 7 million pounds

Mrexcell:
They worked hard before getting the wealth no one gifted them anything so nothing to be ashamed of there, lagos has also benefited massively from oil and gas resources from the niger delta which was used to build mega infrastructures in lagos so u people shouldn't make it look as if only yoruba resources made lagos what it is today.

Do you know that some countries base on port revenue just like some base on oil? Yet states in Nigeria are being paid derivation for oil but the port states are paid nothing for ports revenue. Do you think this is fair? If not then Lagos is being owed one century of derivation from port revenue

omenka:
How so? Could you throw more light on this?

Ok it will make things more interesting. You see the Yoruba don't need Nigeria. I wonder why this is difficult for people to grasp. No forward looking people need Nigeria and if you think you need Nigeria it is because your leaders have work to do

NIN should be useable for voting

If you want a real high voter turn out during the next elections and better efficiency then use NIN for voting and allow people to vote at any polling unit that is convenient for them. That would be a tremendous improvement on what currently obtains

It is not too late to do what is best

https://dailytrust.com/why-nin-should-be-used-for-voting/?fbclid=IwdGRjcASQRjFjbGNrBJBGHWV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHoCKZOUruqpP7kW3YrImmDTYcDL8rU3QRq13X787aQGhbykOZk3buJj6zKOz_aem_HLC9OmNYfxBMggHHtFdpog

Inspirer1:
do you know that this is part of what was preached about today in our Mosque? that Yorubas claim to have different supernatural powers, but can't be used to save those kids? That Pastors claim to have spiritual powers but can't be used to save those kids, even the Imam said they the Imams and Alfas claim they have spiritual powers but can't be used to get those kids out,,,,,he asked a rhetorical question that why is it so, and answered that none of them all (the three groups) is staying true to the Lord they all claim to worship, they've all deviated in true faith and believe in God,,,even Government too are helpless,,,,so sad

People have said they can rescue them if given permission but they are not being taken seriously. Soun Ogunlola did such work for the Oyo empire when he arrested a bandit called Elemosho or so and became the Soun of Ogbomoso as a payment in the past

mrvitalis:
No body is chasing you away from onitsha yorubas dominate sowing in onitsha

The founder of the Onitsha business school is Yoruba
One of the exco of car dealers association in Anambra is Yoruba
Most successful fashion designers in Anambra are Yoruba
A large number of transporters are Yoruba
Many artisans are Yoruba. They dominate
All these people including tailors that you mention are building houses and training their kids. They have cars and etc and can become dollar millionaires if they know how to manage money and are visionaries

Somebody there on ground will be able to give you more information. Don't think people are joking anywhere they are or that there is an occupation that don't make people wealthy

mrvitalis:
Why exactly should we leave Lagos when we contributed to the building ?
South east is the most developed region in Nigeria
99% of all investment in south east are Igbo owned

Outside Lagos no south west city can stand onitsha,Enugu,or owerri not even aba

We are developing our cities

Why should Yoruba leave Onitsha when they contributed to the building of Onitsha? They were there when Enugu was founded, the same with PH. Some Ilesa people that I know can never leave PH because they made it there. They became multi millionaires in dollars there. If there are five hundred dollar millionaires in the SE, you will find Hausa and Yoruba among them in good numbers.

So it is not only Igbos that can't leave Lagos o. I know many Yorubas that can not leave the old Eastern region

ArcSEMPECJ:
That's exactly why I wonder why Lagos booming could not help even Ogun State to develop faster....Ibadan did not develop because of Lagos State, it is because of the University of Ibadan , one of the 3 prestigious Universities we have then and also the teaching hospital, is never because it is near Lagos State even though it is a 2hrs journey interval....

What does it tell us?.....it tells us that the booming spirit and energy drive is not coming from the indigenes of those living near Lagos State so the development is not reaching other near States talk more of Osun, Ekiti, even Ondo ,...

Assuming Yorubas are the pointers of the energy drive in Lagos State, every SW state is supposed to have benefited immensely from Lagos State...

Ibadan developed because of UI? Did Ogbomosho develop because of the American Baptists that settled there in the nineteenth century too? Ilesa developed because of the big Wesley hospital built there early in the twentieth century by the Methodist church? Abeokuta because of the CMS? These are massive cities that existed and prospered before Nigeria became a thing!

ConDawah:
State Police should ideally answer to department of justice, not the executive. That's the needed check, not all these unwarranted fear because some people feel it will hinder their agenda.

The problem is some people think it will aid Nigeria's breakup as if they have any power to stop Nigeria from breaking up whether or not there is state police.
The sensible thing is to not oppose it and go and perfect it in your state for others to copy . Nigeria isn't one country even if it remains united and how any unit is run is the concern of that unit. Some states have sharia

dofman:
Guy, stop falling hand nah . Up till this moment , you still cannot defend your claim. Shioor .🤣

I have told you reason why they touch it or kiss it . They never worship it . Period .

If you did not agree, Na you suppose to bring us proof that claim Muslims should worship the stone nah . So simple . Who claimed something must proof it .


This is very hard for you to defend because your religion uses propaganda and that trick can never work again in this digital period of time .

For instance . I called you kefeeeeriii , and I stand with it with clear proof .

Are you ready to defend your claim, mr man or surrender ? 👮‍♂️

You can not diagnose yourself. You worship Mohammed more than Buddhists worship Buddha or Christians worship Christ. You worship the Kaaba as did the ancestors of Mohammed. That is the verdict and it is what any sensible jury will rule.

PulaPower:
Abidjan is not more developed than Lagos o. Maybe they have constant electricity, yea… But aside from light, nothing else..

Is electricity and say water not enough? Abidjan is more modern than Lagos. Even Its most expensive districts on average are more expensive than the counterpart in Lagos.

bentenny:
Good.
Thats what you should have requested...

Create a constitutionally protected, stakeholder commission with judicial,civil society and expert representation,responsible for appointing the state police chief, senior commanders, and key policy decisions. The governor or president should have limited or no direct appointment powers, with fixed, non-renewable terms staggered across political cycles.

Require all officers to wear and activate body cameras during interactions, with footage automatically uploaded to a secure, tamper-proof system. Clear rules on retention, access, and public disclosure to ensure accountability and evidence integrity.


Implement standardized, transparent hiring processes including background checks, psychological evaluations, integrity tests, and bias-awareness assessments. Prioritize candidates with strong ethical records and community-oriented mindsets.


Mandate regular,scenario-based training on use-of-force,cultural competency,mental health crises, and de-escalation. Tie promotions and certifications to completion and demonstrated competence.



Track success through metrics like crime reduction,clearance rates,community satisfaction surveys, and reduced use of force incident rather than arrest quotas. Publicly report these metrics quarterly.



Create an independent internal affairs division reporting outside the chain of command,combined with robust legal protections and incentives for officers who report misconduct.



Subject police budgets to annual independent audits and legislative oversight. Prioritize investments in technology, training, and community programs over unnecessary militarization.


Use of analytics,predictive tools and crime mapping while enforcing strict data governance rules to prevent bias and mission creep.



Require a community advisory councils, regular town halls and joint problem-solving initiatives. Officers should spend measurable time on trust-building activities in the neighborhoods they serve.
This will ensure that citizens can give out information without fear.



Provide confidential counseling, peer support, and mandatory wellness checks. Reduce stigma to prevent burnout, excessive force linked to stress, and officer suicide.



Enshrine a sanctity of life use of force policy in law,with explicit prohibitions on certain tactics and mandatory review of every serious incident. Regular judicial or external review of policies.



Deploy non-lethal alternatives,license plate readers, drones with strict usage rules and integrated communication systems while maintaining human oversight and public transparency on their deployment and effectiveness.


Create a dedicated Police Stabilization Fund sourced from a fixed percentage of state revenue.For instance, 1–2% of VAT and/or natural resource levies or a multi-year formula-based allocation approved by the legislature for 4–5 year cycles.

You are right. However they will use professionals. Even Amotekun is using professionals and when you join as a graduate or recruit, you will undergo training. Most of these things you are asking for will happen automatically. You can't win elections and sack all the police, just like you can't sack all the teachers as they are civil servants. There is also a limit to how you can tinker with the leadership of any part of the civil service. The police can respond to emergency but they can not use firearms anyhow as such can land them in jail. They can patrol their jurisdiction and this is a thing they can do which a private security can not do. They can arrest someone too with a warrant or invite someone for questioning which a private security outfit can't do too. If you say the leadership should be elected by the assembly to bypass the governor I will agree. In some countries, they even elect judges but to just say state police can't work in Nigeria is what I can't agree with

esnbrutality:
You cant let IGBOs stay in Lagos to sustain you na. You will live alone and IGBOs will live alone and look for new frontiers. As regards the other tribes in the SE after breakup, we shall accommodate as we were accommodated and we shall expel as we were expelled. Simple.

Stop this indirect UNITy begging

How are Igbos sustaining the Yoruba? You are anywhere you are for your own sustenance. What are Igbo doing in Yoruba land that Yoruba are not doing more in Igbo land? There are trades dominated by the Yoruba in the old Eastern region just like Igbos are known for some things in Yoruba land and if those Yorubas in the East are not making it there they would have returned home. Whatever percentage Igbos are by population in Lagos they are contributing less than that percentage to government revenue because majority of government revenue in Lagos is PAYE and most Igbos are not in formal employment.
If you insist you are sustaining Lagos then Yoruba are also sustaining Onitsha, Awka, PH, Enugu and etc massively

esnbrutality:
Exodus...Movement of Jah people.

Tell your leaders to stop begging for UNITY.

Release Nnamdi Kanu so we carry our wahala and leave you in peace.

So you think the millions of Yoruba who live in the old Eastern region will leave the place if Nigeria breaks up? If not, why are you saying Igbos will leave Lagos if Nigeria breaks up?

bentenny:
Why is it so hard for you guys to read to understand instead of reacting?
If you are having issues comprehending my comment,the least you can do is seek clarity or ask for a solution!
I am pro state police but there must be a carefully implemented safeguard to minimize abuse from political office holders and ensure accountability!

You people have been saying this thing for decades. Outline the safeguards you are talking about. So a university can not have a well armed security department? Any government tier should be able to automatically have a police department and private security companies too should be able to bear military grade weapons. It is you that should explain how governors can abuse their state police. A police man is a civil servant and nobody can arrest anyone without a warrant. If you are a big man, hire private security

Gerrard59:
- Allow the importation of cement
- Construct metro linking economic hubs to states with vast swathes of land for residential property developments.
- Ease building permits fees and make the process uniformed
- Govt should build public housing across selected states

In the case of Lagos, it should build up.
You see it, it is not rocket science.

Government building alone can not solve the problem. There are council flats in the UK and they still have the same problem. Rent regulation is the only way to solve the problem. The cost of one plot of land must never be more than one or two percent of the cost of building a small flat say 4 bedroom which will just mean that land can't be sold any more. When there is need to reclaim land like in the case of a sand filling and it is costly, then government can go in if nobody else can afford to spend the money because of a low ROI. That way a family home will not cost more than 300 dollars per annum to rent anywhere in Nigeria and the cost will continue to drop as cost of building materials drop

ZombidiotFools:
Many junior officers that have spoken against stuffs like this have been arrested, court marshalled and dismissed.

The officers in top don't really care because they are not the one going to the fronts and losing their comrades.

Jobless people can be radicalized, therefore they can be freed?

Do you think if someone goes into robbery or kidnapping because they were forced to, or because their mother needed urgent surgery, that would make the law forgive them if they are caught? Hmm

Where do you think they got the 15 billion from if not politicians?

You think a business man would use his money for that?

Ask yourself why FG was able to catch Nnamdi Kanu all the way from London, kept Sunday Igboho in exile when they almost napped him in his home, made sure Simon Ekpa entered prison in Finland, but all of a sudden they can't catch or even disclose the identity of people sponsoring bandits?

People that have freedom and work day and night fins it difficult to make 10 million, and some people that lives in the bush day and night have billions to have weapons?

Bro think about it.

But my pain is that Tinubu is also playing to their gallery which is very painful.
If they have remained where they were, I wouldn't be bothered, but why come to South-West?

If Tinubu with all his power cannot do something, please who will?

Yes I have publicly asked the question severally. If Tinubu can not secure even the SW then no Yoruba should expect Atiku or Obi to do it. The first step is to decentralize security and the politicians can't agree on that. The way forward is to disintegrate the country.

Yes the sponsors who bought them guns stole the monies from the Nigerian Treasury.

lightwind:
Oyo is there,
Osun
Ogun
Ekiti
Kwara, but i didn't mention them, i single handedly picked Lagos Nigeria for a reason.

Once again, i will repeat it Lagos, Nigeria is HOME to all TRIBES in Nigeria including those from other African countries.
You can find this same thing in places like Port Harcourt city.

And it wasn't the Yorubas that made happen!

Cities like Abidjan in this same west Africa is better developed than Lagos by infrastructure but it was not like that during the days of the western region. Nowhere in west Africa was as developed as Ibadan or Lagos back then.

Therefore if no Nigeria do you think Lagos population would have been lower or the infrastructure worse? Presently Abidjan is a more expensive city to live in than Lagos.

The selling point of Lagos is the high population and some status it gained like being the unicorn capital of Africa and etc. It was also ranked highest at a point for tech innovation or so. How did Nigeria achieve all that for Lagos? Nigeria or not the population would have been there. The population is in New York

franchasofficia:
Reason they need to produce President for at least 16 years to be fair and just

If Igbos get 16 years then Yoruba should get 40 years if we go by population differential Akwa cross should get 7 years and etc etc. If we go by taxes paid then SW should lead Nigeria forty percent of it's existence and there are still Yoruba in the North and South south which may just mean Yoruba should lead majority of the time. You see now that the fight can never finish and this is why everyone should concentrate on how to peacefully divide the country

It is only the government that can do it. They can fix what rent should be

Nwaokunkpara:
How exactly is this list compiled or is it from the comfort of their offices just like estimated nepa bill or do they tour around to know the situation on ground?

Affordability, electricity access, safe streets and child care.

High cost of living, cult fights, frequent blackouts and lack of child care will make a state rank lower

There is no group in Delta without land and most of them have population above one million which is more than the population of some sovereign states. What is needed is for each group to have their own state. A one million population country is a big country

bentenny:
Careful what you wish for!
Who do you think had the power and connection to usher in Fulani terrorists from the north east or north west?
State governors should not be given the power to control policing in the state!
Infact no political office holders should have 'complete' control over the state police!
That will be a recipe for disaster!

So you are the only one in the country that should be President while we entrust our security in it's totality to you? Anybody that is against state police will make a dangerous President

cedricksly:
Private Security Infrastructure is needed..(the type that will legalize Private Military/Paramilitary Companies) just like Bancroft Global in the US, SADAT in Turkeye, Dyck Advisory Group(DAG) In South Africa, Wagner Group in Russia etc. Give companies license to own private military for Hire.... What we will call Legal Gun For Hire(Aka MERCINARIES)

Don't give Governors that much power with state police, it will birth Chaos

So if a private company can be issued a license to form a for profit security company, how then can you stop a local government, state government, university and etc from forming such a company or owning the majority shares of such a company?

WizardOfNG:
Well-said. Nigerian leaders, because many are about what they wish to eat, have made most Nigerians Ostriches who bury their head in the sand.

We are very different. We managed fake 'one Nigeria' unity for decades but that Chicken has come home to roost.

We must now talk honestly with each other to agree to disagree. Let everyone go and live how they wish to. Recognising we are different, is the beginning of understanding how we can live together peacefully.

Yes those campaigning for unity can not say exactly why. There is no unit without it's GDP and the oil money is a measly less than 3 percent of the GDP.

zeyt:
State police shall pave the way for nigeria break up. Each state will have tha apparatus to maintain law and order. Nigeria isnt ready for state police as Jonathan once weighed, it just Tunibu has other agenda.

You don't have the means to keep Nigeria together by force either. You have to be ready for breakup because it can happen anytime. Tell your governor to sit up. A state with millions of residents do not need any money from outside

jmoore:
State police is a recipe for disaster.

Nigeria ain't ripe for such.

You see I am an ijesa man. A nation formed over 1000 years ago that has had 48 kings so far. We have a traditional capital at Ilesa and we have shifted capital seven times. There are over 300 settlements on the land from cities to towns to villages. We have defended the land for over one thousand years. It is a defacto sovereign state. Don't you think this your statement is insultive to people like the Ijesa people? I tell you it is very insultive indeed. Please stop making such statements

Simongm:
The Yoruba Tribes occupying the South Western parts
of Nigeria are known to be the most Educated ethnic
group in Nigeria. Recent claims however, indicate that
among the Yorubas, the Okuns are the most Educated
Sub-Ethnic Group In Nigeria With Over 550 Professors.
While the town of Offa in Kwara State has been
identified as the single town with the highest number
of Professors in Nigeria and Ekiti State acclaimed as
the most educated state in the country, the Okun
People of Kogi State are arguably the most educated
sub-ethnic group in Nigeria.
The Okuns are Yoruba descendants in Kogi state who
made up over 20% of the entire population of the
state. They are estimated to have a population of
about 800,000 people spread across six local
government areas, comprising Kabba-Bunu, Yagba-
West, Yagba-East, Mopa-Muro, Ìjùmú and Lokoja local
government areas . They can also be found in parts of
Ekiti local government of Kwara State and Ikole Local
Government of Ekiti State.
Apart from eminent Nigerians like late Chief SB
Awoniyi, Major General David Jemibewon, Chief Kola
Jamodu, Chief Bayo Ojo SAN, Cardinal John Onaiyekan
among others who originated from the area, the Okun
people also has the highest number of professors per
capita in Nigeria with over 550 professors in varied
academic fields.
Among these professors are over 11 Vice Chancellors
and numerous deputy Vice Chancellors and professors
who are first in their fields.

For Okun to have over 500 Profs, their population will be close to 2 million
Prof Solomon the DG at Abuja is now late and he was my teacher at OAU