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AmuDimpka:You are saying nonsense bro. My mom is Ijebu and I’ve not heard of any saying about her not wanting to be categorized as a Yoruba. Where are you getting all your information from for God sake? |
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AmuDimpka:And I know lot of Okuns that identify with Yorubas so what are you taking about? What is the tongue of Dino and Smart Adeyemi? Those are the representative of the Okun people. Below are the Okun notable people, do you see the names and their Yorubaness?
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AmuDimpka:Who founded this companies is the main koko. List the lies I made in my post. Flutterwave was founded by a Yoruba yes or no? That he sold a stake is not the issue of discourse here. John Obaro is Okun the Yoruba speaking tribe. Tunde Kehinde was co-founder of Jumia. Beside the e-transact mistake I made, can you point out the lies in my post? |
winterfell007:John Obaro is Okun which is the Yoruba speaking part of Kogi. Just like Dino Melaye. Dino speaks Yoruba as his language just as the major Okun people. On Jumia co-founder Tunde Kehinde, do you see the attached image below?
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winterfell007:It’s not bullshit bro. You can’t compare the Yorubas in the corporate sector with any tribe in Nigeria. It’s not debatable. For the sake of clarity, let’s divide them into groups and compare coz if I say we should be dilly dallying by mentioning different sector. For example let’s start with online platforms: Nairaland Jobber man Banking: Telecommunications: Insurance: Then find the big players and compare, that’s if there is time on both our sides. That’s how to compare and reach a logical conclusion. |
AmuDimpka:Yes agreed! I’m trying to list them sector by sector, to be able to compare them in the real sense. I feature most payment platforms and we can proceed to another actor. You can bring a sector, we will look for the big players in the sector and list out the Yorubas and Igbos. You can go through this thread to see what I’m saying: https://www.nairaland.com/3918290/yorubas-most-industriousrichest-educated-tribe |
nku5:Please try to converse with me like a sane person. I’ve accorded you the respect of holding this dialogue without banters so please thread the path of nobility. Even PDP cannot substantiate their rubbish claim of corruption on Buhari. Obasanjo worked with Buhari and I’m sure he will be in the right place to know if Buhari is a corrupt man. PDP as a party cannot even pin one corrupt practice against Buhari and it will take a stupid person to say Buhari has a history of corruption. But in terms of disobeying rule of law, nepotism, cluelessness at some point, etc. you can give Buhari a distinction! |
Omoodua007:Abi o. |
nku5:Lol, do you think the Yorubas take orders from anybody? We are only answerable to our tribe and God. You all keep shouting lies against Jonathan, what lies for heaven sake? Are people not dying in their hundreds due to Boko haram? Are Jonathan cabinet members not corrupt? Dasuki, et al. Are governors not borrowing to pay salaries during Jonathan‘a period? Are Fulani herdsmen not striking during those periods? |
Chinablack:You are all not getting it. When you have a bad president you will try to replace him with anything replaceable, that’s why it’s called democracy coz you have to choose between one of two devil. However people that chose Buhari can argue that considering the level of change we need in the political space, a Buhari will be the perfect option. Let me give few reasons: 1. On Boko Haram: Buhari had a history of dealing with terrorist as manifested in the Maistese (spell check) terrorists which he conquered coupled with the fact that he was a military general. People will naturally believe Buhari will solve the Boko issue and give the people of the NE peace. 2. On corruption: Buhari had a pedigree as an incorruptible statesman, no one has ever accused him of corruption and to the general Nigerians he is as pure as gold. Also, Buhari has a history of dealing with corrupt people as manifested in his military government. Hence people will think Buhari will solve the problem. 3. On lost of discipline in the civil service. Most government parastatals are behaving like clowns such that most agency of government are not remitting what they should. We have Federal parastatals where people don’t come to work and chose to go to their personal business instead. With Buhari and his history of War against Indiscipline (WAI), people thought the general will bring some form of sanity to the civil service. Which explains why his first few month in office saw people talking about body language. I can actually go on and on. But later Buhari turned out to be a scam like the rest of the political class. Which explains why people tried voting him out the second time (he won only 4states in the SW). However people have the dilemma of choosing between Buhari and a known fugitive Atiku. Since there will be apathy coz people will think Buhari and Atiku are bird of a feather, the federal might can actually do the wuruwuru for Buhari to emerge. |
amuwo1980:It is their right to vote along tribal line of that’s what you thought happened. In all democracy across the world, people always vote a government where their interest will be protected and SW voting out Jonathan shouldn’t be an outlier in democratic practice. However you are wrong, Jonathan got at least over 40% of votes in 2015, which explains that the SW vote itself was divided and it’s just a figment of your imagination to conclude it’s all tribalism. |
nku5:Can you see you turned out to be empty. You did not bother to give a rebuttal to all the point I lay but you rather tried playing the derailing tactics. I’m not a fan of Buhari himself so you actually got the wrong guy. The crux of the argument is that is it right to vote Jonathan out in 2015 with such magnitude of his cluelessness in government? Capital YES. If I start debating Jonathan government corruption here then I’ll just be a fool to reiterate a common knowledge known to Nigeria and I’ll be doing Dasuki a great disservice of trying to lower his achievement in looting! |
AmuDimpka:For Yorubas: I will be majorly featuring payment platforms (except some rebuttal to your e-commerce platform) as an e.g We have: Andela Paystack Jumia Co-founder Remita Paga Flutterwave Voguepay Even Konga was founded by a Yoruba man and he sold 60% stake to Zinox as of recent. Also who give the best indigenous ICT firm to CWG? Note: I’m Just listing majorly payment platform to streamline the talks. Do you see the domination of the Yorubas. Let’s take it one sector of IT after the other and compare to make it more easier to compare. |
Chinablack:The real insanity was the people that actually tried voting Jonathan again for the second time. 1. Jonathan comrades were so corrupt that it got to a stage that he had to say stealing is not corruption. 2. Constant bombing in the NE, up to the extent that the UN building in Abuja was bombed. Scores of hundreds of people dying daily due to bombing and get you think Jonathan should not be voted out? 3. Chibok girls kidnapped and the ogogoro sipping Jonathan did nothing proactive to arrest the situation but instead he was in denial at the initial stage. He’s an unserious President. 4. The Nigeria economy is already failing even with the high price of oil we accumulated pre-2014, and some governors already started borrowing to pay salaries. If we had continue with Jonathan with the drop in oil price then Nigeria would have been far worse by now. 5. Fulani herdsmen are also killing people during Jonathan’s era, he’s also using soft hands to bombard them just like the useless Buhari right now is doing. They are both failed leaders. The SW people saw all this rubbish by Jonathan and decided to vote him out for anybody even if it’s a goat. Yet you guys are always online shouting Jonathan Jonathan like zombies. |
AmuDimpka:Don’t give yourself hypertension on irrelevances. The Yorubas either men or women lead the tech industry in Nigeria with a wide disparity than any other Nigerian tribes. We are the ones calling the major shot in corporate industries in Nigeria. Be it IT, Technology, Banking, Insurance, etc. Even if you reside in the states, most Fortune 500 IT experts of Nigerian origin are majorly Yorubas, followed by Igbos and some part of the SS (Edo and Urhobo). Even if they bring out a different list from this Fintech women, it will still be dominated by the Yorubas. Know when to give up and know when to fight. If the Igbos has not flocked into the SW’ern part of Nigeria, they would not have been different from the minorities in the SS in terms of IT knowledge coz they learnt a lot from the Yorubas. We made the Igbos and most of you guys that are progressing IT and Tech wise are majorly found in the SW. |
degamemaster:Can you see you are actually the intelligent fool you accused me of? So because they shout Allahu Akbar (God is great) means they are fighting for Islam? So you mean the Fulanis killing people in farms always shout Allahu Akbar before killing people? Even if they shout that, does that justifies the assertion that all Nigerian muslims are intolerant? We have 1.8billion Muslims in the world which is approx 24% of the world population. If Islam main teaching is about killing other religious faith, then you would have been exterminated or don't you think so? Why should USA suddenly profile the Nigeria Muslims in their generality as being intolerant? Are the Fulanis the only makeup of Muslims in Nigeria? |
Advocate500:I said they are losing their moral policing system on the world as an embodiment of truth. Come to think of it, what have they done to the constant bombardment of Israel against the people of Palestine? What about the Rohingya Muslim of Myammar and the genocide against them? What about the Muslims persecuted in India continuously? What about the Chinese Uyghur muslims and the profiling against them in China? What has the US done against this? Is it only bad when it concerns the Muslims? |
Dedetwo:What is the jihadist move by Buhari? Can you please mention one case where Buhari carried out a jihadist movement against you? I am waiting! |
Dedetwo:Mr Dende @the bolded, I’m not hating on the USA and it’s absurd to claim I need to swallow anything the USA government say without subjecting it to critical thinking all because I reside in the states. You are saying rubbish in the rebuttal you gave to me coz you never bothered to address the issue of discourse but you instead try bringing IPOB into your claims. My question is that as a southern Muslim without no history of killing Christians, why should USA profile us as being intolerant of the Christian Faith? What is the yardstick used by America to suddenly profile us in such a manner? That means if I go to my place of work, my colleagues that watch CNN will suddenly face me and ask me if I’m also non tolerant of the Christian Faith. Americans can’t distinguish the north from the south and now as a Muslim I have to live with the dent on my image. If the USA had said the Muslim northerners fulanis are savages and they are killing Christians, I wouldn’t be bothered because there is actually cases where people in the north fight and kill along religious line. But how should that affect me? You should rather stay on the issue of discourse and stop dilly dallying all about like a not too intelligent fella. |
digitalman2811:You don't know what you are saying. Are you talking about that of the Washington post? If yes, then you might actually be on weed to even say Muslims are not mentioned! |
chigoizie7:You are right. The government have not done enough to condemn the atrocities of the herdsmen. But the USA cannot demean the name of the other Muslims from the south just because they are trying to get back at the Federal Government. It doesn't make any sense that the USA will play politics with the image of the Nigerian Muslims as a whole. |
Balogunodua:I disagree with your post bro. As a fellow Yoruba I see the recent USA pronouncement as an affront on my dignity as a Muslim. If the USA had said the Northern Muslim it would have been a different ball game. Why will they generalize their statement to encompass all Nigerian Muslim? That implies that I will be profiled by people in the USA as being intolerant if they know I am a Nigerian Muslim. We all know the Fulani are barbaric in nature and they cannot be said to be only after Christains alone but against anybody that lay claim to a land they intend using for grazing. It is better for USA to profile them as terrorist and Northern Muslims rather than generalize everything on Nigerian Muslim as a whole. That is my argument. The claim of Islamization by christains online is just outright nonsense. It is an issue of paranoia. I will outline just two cases why I think Nigeria is being christainize rather than islamized: 1. When I was in secondary school, the morning devotions are majorly administered in the Christian way and even the choir most time read hymn books in a government owned school. As a Muslim, I followed along and I think that is Christianization. 2. All through my days in the University, the Jehovah witnesses are all around me in my residence, they will not spare you even if you say you are a muslim and they will always want to preach and intrude your space. If it had been Muslims that are behaving like that, there would have been claim by Christians that muslim are spreading Jihad. Question to you: Using the Southern Nigeria as a case study, how do you think Muslims are Islamizing Nigeria? |
livebyday:@ the bolded, how will you respond when you have nothing tangible upstairs to contribute than to cancel post on Nairaland? It would have been the eighth wonder of the world if you had been able to contribute intelligently to the issue of discourse. Cancel this one too like your trademark! |
NimrodEndOfDays:A quick question: Do you think it is right for USA to categorize all Muslims as being intolerant in Nigeria for the activities of Fulani terrorist herdsmen? |
NimrodEndOfDays:So you have to cancel my post to contribute? Nawa for you guys on Nairaland! |
Agnosticism:You Christians online are daft and exhibit the same barbaric complex like the jihadists. The only difference between you and the hateful jihadists is that you have not yet taken up arms. You hypocritical Christians on Nairaland with your Islamophobia needs to be kept in check. You have the highest form of intolerance of the people from other religious faith and you always think your religion supersede those of others. Why should someone like me (a southern Muslim) be accused of being intolerant by CAN? How many times have we heard cases where Southern Muslims kill their Christian counterpart for religion? Why should CAN use the premises of political appointment to justify the mantra of Islamization? Don't you think CAN is a congregation of scallywags that stoke the ember of religious hatred for political gains like MURIC? |
The USA goofed on this pronouncement and it just give credence to the fact that they are losing their influence on the world as the main embodiment of truth. How do they reach the conclusion on categorizing all Muslims as being intolerant of the Christians? Do they mean the southern Muslims that have been coexisting peacefully with our Christian brothers are intolerant also? Ain’t it ridiculous that countries like Saudi Arabia where there ain’t freedom of expression of religion and where people are killed in the savagely way due to the outdated shariah law are not termed intolerant? Why Nigeria this time! On the issue of the Fulani terrorist herdsmen, everyone know those guys kill people for their grazing right and they don’t distinguish whether you’re Christian or Muslim. A Fulani herdsmen won’t ask for your religion before butchering you in your farm so where the bleep do the USA get their Islamization agenda from. Buhari is a nepotistic leader, he is majorly doing something termed Northernization rather than Islamization. It’s just ridiculous to accuse him of Islamization. We’ve been hearing the term Islamization since he assumed position in 2015 and yet there is still freedom of practice of religion till now in naija. If you go through the post on Washington times you will see that the author of the post is incoherent in his assertions. He’s even using Lagos as a case study for his claim of religious intolerance and one would but wonder the motive of the said author. It’s the same USA press that said Lagos is the most dangerous place to live due to Boko Haram bombing and one would wonder when Boko Haram ever bombed Lagos. |
livebyday:For you to cancel my post justifies the assertion that you can’t hold sane discussion without hiding under the constant islamophobia like your fellow ignorant Christians are fond of doing on Nairaland. My mom is a Christian and Dad is Muslim so I know what I’m saying. It’s just plain stupidity on the writers part to group all Muslim in Nigeria under one umbrella and accuse them of being intolerant of the Christians. The most fanatic set of Christians that dosen’t follow the teaching of Christ are too much on Nairaland. You are all bird of a feather and you just constantly demean the Image of islam in the pursuit of cheap likes on Nairaland. We will no longer keep quiet and let you guys on here intimidate Muslims on what to say and how to react to situation. If you know you can hold a sane argument, tell me the reason why the USA will have to categorize all Muslims in Nigeria as being intolerant. What premises did they use in reaching that conclusion? Is there any cases of southern Muslims that killed for religion that I don’t know about? |
livebyday:You are saying rubbish and its just ridiculous to accuse me of been an extremist sympathizer. My religion is Islam and I have the responsibility of defending my faith when I see people are trying to misrepresent it. CAN and MURIC are both a religious organization that has outlived their importance. They are both appendage of politicians and most of their pronouncement are majorly polarized towards a certain political agenda. We have seen cases where Fulani herdsmen attack Oyo state with its sizeable amount of muslims and I am very sure the terrorist herdsmen won't ask about your religious faith before they perpoetrate their barbaric killings. They are majorluy after communities that deny them their grazing right and I am sure all religion already condemned their atrocities (both Muslims and Christains alike). The United States goofed on this current pronouncement and the author of the post is not better informed. If you check the initial pronouncement on Washington post you will decode that the statement is junk journalism. They are even saying Lagos is also an embodiment for the religious fanatics and one would wonder where they got their report from. I live abroad and most of these pronouncement by the USA press are featured on TV daily, how then should I walk freely at work when people will be suspecting me as being religious fanatic or intolerant of Christains? Why should they categorize all the Muslims in Nigeria as being intolerant thereby denying the Southern Muslims of their benevolence to the christain brothers. We have cases of the christain Berom tribes that are cannibals somewhere in the middle belt. If the government of Canada suddenly use that as a benchmark to qualify Nigerian christain as cannibals, how will you feel seeing the headline that "Nigeria christains are cannibals feasting on the muslims"? I don't give a bleep about the Hausa/Fulanis in the North, my major concern is why they have to make a pronouncement without segregating the Muslims of the North from those of the South. The Southern Muslims have never for once killed for religion!! |
livebyday:What is the valid points CAN is making? They are just organizations that are fueled by political partisanship and they do not have the moral justifications to support their assertions of Islamization. Both CAN and MURIC are a disgrace to sane poeple coz they are both spokesperson of PDP and APC. Every sane person knows that the Fulani terrorist don't care whether you are Christian or Muslim before they kill and butcher people. They are after their cows and they are always fomenting trouble where they think their grazing rights are not protected. How does this translates to Islamization? It is also stupid and absurd to categorize all Muslims in Nigeria and label them as intolerant coz we have Mulsims in the south coexisting peacefully with their brothers from different faith. What Buhari is doing is Northernization agenda and its outright stupidity for any group of people to label that islamization. We've been hearing Buhari will islamize Nigeria since 2015 and yet the Christians still have the same right as the muslims across Nigeria. The implication of this rubbish uniformed move by the USA is that the Nuslims from Nigeria (south inclusive) will be profiled henceforth coz most people in international countries can't distinguish Nigeria mulsim by regions (Fulani or Southern Muslims). CAN is a sick organization just as some Christains online that had made it a duty to always criticize Islam at any given opportunity. You all are not different from the religious fanatics you sought to condemn. |
Anyone that believes the write-up is from Obasanjo is a compound fool! |
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