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patches689:
Provide these "citations"

There are no parts of the Angolan war that are classified - why would the ANC cover up the failures of the apartheid govt?

The classified views of the apartheid government and the leadership of its armed forces about Cuito Canavale would make absolutely fascinating reading and will be vital in the future for balanced historical analysis, if there is any space left for that.


You will still entertain us with crafty denials and excuses, seeking to discredit the source and link. But I'll watch you humiliate yourself again. The aparthied government classified many details of that war.

http://granma.cu/ingles/international-i/28marz-13cuitocuanavale.html

iblawi:
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Boko Haram: Britain to assist Nigeria with additional military personnel
December 21, 2015 at 7:23 pm in News FacebookTwitterSMSWhatsApp
The British Secretary of State for Defence, Mr Michael Fallon, has said his country will deploy additional military advisers and trainers to Nigeria to help in the fight against Boko Haram insurgency.
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Fallon stated this while fielding question from State House correspondents after a closed door meeting with President Muhammadu Buhari at the Presidential Villa, Abuja on Monday.
According to him, the military personnel, who will be in Nigeria next year, will be offering training to improve the Nigerian Army’s resilience to Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) left behind by Boko Haram.
· Cue in audio (Fallon)
“Britain and Nigeria are both democracies; we are free peoples, free to choose our governments.
“These terrorists – ISIS, Boko Haram – they are opposed to us, our ways of life and they need to be defeated.
“So, we have been discussing today what more Britain can do; can we step up our military effort with more training, more help in dealing with Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) and with dealing with medical evacuation and airfield defence.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/12/boko-haram-britain-to-assist-nigeria-with-additional-military-personnel/

Nothing out of the ordinary here. Standard military assist anywhere in the world.

Seems boko guys are fleeing faster than ever before, hence leaving IED's behind.

FighterPilot:
The ANC was founded in 1912 long before Nigeria could be established and that will be enough for you to be convinced that Zulus were always politically wise from ages ago.

You are truly lost and you really don't know the imperialist agenda behind the Boers for wanting to conquer the whole of SADC. Go and learn South African history under apartheid and stop your madness.

SADF never used american mercenaries. The war ended in stalemate.

ANC was founded 1912? What's that to do with anything? If any, it proves your political redundancy. You've been under subjugation for eternity and you only founded a political remedy in 1912? Smh.

You seem a tad honest than most of your little-minded compatriots here- at least, you admit the war ended in a stalemate. Mzilakazi the Zulu says the Russians prevented the SANDF from defeating the Angolans, Patrick, the LETTER boy, says the SANDF was victorious. Jln115 says south Africa withdrawal was as a result of the collapse of the soviet union. Clearly the madness is on you uncoordinated, disharmonious Zulus that lie from both sides of your mkoboti-reeking mouths.

Your military classified the war details for a very long time; they had a lot to hide. You made great concessions only a losing side should concede.

You lost that war.

patches689:
Where did i ask about the excerpt?

Last night i asked for the source of your "facts" and the posts in which i asked you specifically related to the border war

Its glaringly obvious, although you seem to struggle with the comprehension of the obvious

You deny asking Austin for citation of his claims.

Now why did I quote you the entire letter? That was when you changed ground and said no one "cares about a letter"..... I just got home from my journey. After family hugs, I'll come knock you again.

jln115:
Wow your fantasies, hahahah or could it be schizophrenia?

Just to ease your anxiety, I never log out of NL on my phone or Laptop, thus I'm on NL as jln115 or not on at all.

Your ghost then watches from the shadows. So convenient when you're not logged in quest number are plentiful. But when all of you are logged on we have just one or no quests.

patches689:
The only person whom is struggling to comprehend anything here is you

I asked a very simple question
You were completely unable to understand the question (let alone answer it)

Furthermore, the fact that you are focusing your energy on ad hominem attacks and not on advocating the merits of your argument shows me that you are aware (in some primitive way) that you infact have no real argument, or that whatever argument you intended on making will be unable to withstand my laser-like scrutiny

Thus, i can only conclude that you have tacitly accepted your defeate and thus my work here is done.

I call this post the grandest attempt at implicit admission of defeat. No argument that Obj wrote Thatcher on south Africa which added diplomatic pressure on Britain and the apartheid regime that the commonwealth of nations isolated Britain to move ahead with sanctions?

Or that south Africa did not leave Angola with shame after they were spectacularly humiliated? That Christopher who was the white house press sec. didn't lie to the world press to strengthen Americas interest in south Africa?

Have I not brought posts on these months back you claimed were blogs, or written by Russian military that wanted to claim victory? Yet you want us to accept the one written by your generals and American CIA.

Was not some part of the Angolan war classified in your military journals? Why _fuck would government then do that if not to hide the truth.


Dude, I laced you with insults because you are the embodiment of deceit and insecurity. You care so much of the opinion Nigeria holds on south Africa. You will lie to promote that oponino no matter what it took.


You're debate-unworthy. You haven't accepted any fact that stood against you on this thread.

patches689:
Read my posts - it is glaringly obvious that i was not talking about the letter.

Read my posts - i did not refer to an "excerpt", i asked for the "source" of your "facts"

Read my posts and you shall avoid future embarrasment

Also, you quite obviously have no idea what dyslexia is.

It is the neurological inability to read albeit comprehend and write. Learning disabilities: Word-blindness You're a chief sufferer of this neurological/mental deformity.

Whenever you're exposed or pointed to the truth, you feel too ashamed to take correction. Your comprehension is base-level, it stems from your elelmntary reading ability.

Mr. Letter-boy. Do me the merry-go-round, that's your trademark here.

patches689:
So despite the fact that i have clearly informed you that no one is talking about the letter you are still unable to realize that no one is talking about the letter?

OK, two killer questions: 1)DID YOU ASK ME FOR PROOF OF MY EXCERPT? tell our readers your answer.

2) DID I SUBMIT ANY EXCERPT ON THE BORDER WAR?

Be man, take responsibility for your errors, own up , then wipe the stale _shit from your arse and move on.

That's what men do.

Hanging onto a Nigerian forum to rewrite the history of your life and that of your country marked by uncertainty isn't going to grow you into a confident person.

patches689:
Read my posts, i was asking where you got your "facts" on the border war - very simple posts with a very simpe argument, which was clearly beyond your cognative abilities.

Congrafulations on humiliating yourself in such spectacular fashion

So now i ask again: what is the source of your "facts"?

Read my posts
Understand my posts
Respond accrodingly

You asked for proof of the LETTER. You demanded for proof of my excerpt and the only excerpt is of the LETTER.

You changed to the border war when I laughed at your grand ignorance and shallow tactics of engagement. Did I supply any excerpts in my post on border war?
Nope. So your demand for proof of excerpt is clearly on the LETTER which is the only excerpt I have submitted.


Dyslexia isn't curable, Patrick. So you're going to be a life-long intellectual vegetable.

patches689:
No - read my posts, i am not asking about the letter.

Read my posts
Understand my posts
Respond accordingly

Yes i am sorry, sorry for wasting my time with someone whom is incapable of basic comprehenison

That's not the kinf of apology I was expecting. But we're making progress.

I will dub you the letter boy from south Africa. Since you had the ignorance to demand proof of a letter that has become as popular as aparthied itself.

I question your education foundation and world-awarness. You asked for a proof of my excerpt? You can't tell the writing style of diplomatic correspondence?

Patrick, you aren't my favourite Zulu for nothing.

patches689:
What is the source for your "facts" on the Border War?

That is why your question is irrelevant, because no one is talking about the letter

Read my posts
Understand my posts
Respond accordingly

The border war wasn't in contention with you. I never even supplied any excerpt on the border war. YOU ASKED FOR THE SOURCE OF MY EXCERPT ON THE LETTER. YOU DENIED OBASANJO ENGAGED THATCHER.

Stop this. You're boring me.

patches689:
Thats not the source i have been asking for

Read my posts
Understand my posts
Respond accordingly

Patrick, stop your dance of shame. I never referenced any of your worthless posts. My argument with you was and still is your demanding for proof from agsugust for OBJ's letter to Thatcher.

You asked for the source of my excerpt. The only excerpt I have supplied here is that very letter. So that's your bone of contention.

You got whooped boy. Apologise for being a flip-flopping, dishonest and baselessly proud fellow, then we move on.

You stay on this part, I'll break every single bone of yours as a prelude to Christmas.

Tell me you're sorry for wasting my time. Convey it in your next post.

patches689:
Delusions on grandeur

You sneak out of the shadows to throw jibes and run away. Fact.

patches689:
Irrelevant question

No one is talking about the letter

Try to follow the argument

Irrelevant? Whoah!!

But you compared nairaland to my so-called "sources".

So I ask you: are the articles here without facts entirely?

Answering the question will expose you for an empty, logically deficient troll.

Hahaha, nice move calling it irrelevant. You got beaten yet again.

patches689:
Are you basing all your arguments on what you learn on open source forums?

You didn't answer the question; Are the entire articles submitted on nairaland without facts and truth?

@patchesagain, jnl115 etc, you all always hide in guestmode to read my scourging diatribes of facts from the saftey of the questmode. That way, you can prepare your responses without having the pressure of spontaneity. I have 5 bleeding guests viewing and we don't have that kind of numbers on this thread.

_fucking come to the ring away from the shadows.

patches689:
Read my posts again

Thats not the information i am questioning

Simple questions seem to cause you allot of difficulty

At this point, I have to ask you finish recovering from the daze-punch I landed you before reacting. You're hiding in shame.

You asked for the proof of my "excerpt". DUMMY, THE ONLY EXCERPT I HAVE SUBMITTED HERE IS THE LETTER WRITTEN BY OBASANJO IN 1986 TO MARGARET THATCHER.

Please what are you saying? Go home patrick, you're getting homesick already.

patches689:
Lezz has reading difficulties go easy on him

Bruised south African e-warriors on a self-healing, feel-good mission.

patches689:
Read my posts again

Thats not the information i am questioning

Simple questions seem to cause you allot of difficulty

nope, son. You can't ask what was never in the contention. Are you convulsing with amnesia?

I jumped on you when you asked of agagust for proof of Obasanjo tacking Thatcher. I took the pain to provide the entire letter and your reaction was to shift ground.

I don't go over the scribbles of a mentaly disturbed newt like you. Petty denial which is your trademark has kept this thread for 5 unholy years.

Thanks to your little heart. You seem to be blown by every wind out of Nigeria. Zulu-dummy.

jln115:
He praised them for the role they played in the fight against apartheid and having the bravery to take arms against a military superpower.NOT because they defeated the SADF.

bwahahaaha. Then rhino poachers should be idolozed for dribbling the sandf in and out of south African boarders.

Your president didn't go all the way to Angola to praise a 'defeated' army. He went to there to acknowledge an army that fought your sandf to seek negotiations.

jln115:
Do you even read my posts thoroughly? If you did you would've noticed tha[b]t I never said he never praised the Angolan army,[/b] but what I in-fact stated was that he never said anything about the Angolan army literally defeating the SADF!!

Now READ my post thoroughly, before you quote me again, I'm getting board of repeating myself over and over!

So what's Zuma praising the Angolan army for? For surrendering to the SANDF and taking a beating?

Nope, he praised the Angolan army for bringing peace to the entire region and putting a stop to the progress of apartheid. He praised them for Namibian independence and for defeating the south African troop.

jln115:
Ok so air is more dens at higher altitude according to Nigerians? And you try to discredit our education system! Wow not only are you a retaaard but you're a hypocritical retaaard!! New lows mate, well done!

Anyway unlike you I research the facts, I don't take anything seriously posted on this thread be it from a South African or not if it hasn't been backed up by citations or if I've researched the topic my self.

And our president said nothing about Angola defeating the SADF mate!

As I said before: your trolling sucks dck bro!

You say all these just to tell us that your president was wrong and you're right? I love the show of pain you're broadcasting.. Lolz.

And your research proved Zuma never made this praise on the Angolan army?

You're heaving with despair. Tell your President to retrace his speech that made you look like the muppet you are.

Patchesagain:
My question is both logical and honest

What is the source of your "facts"?

Peer reviewed journals? Respected military historians? Respected military organization's?

Why do you so desperately avoid the question?

A "skilled" south African patriot, historian, military expert is asking for the source of Obasanjor's letter in 1986 to Margaret Thatcher pertaining apartheid.

Patrick,oh Patrick, what wiped shame and pride off your head.
You just proved you're a lame troll and a shallow ranter.

It would have been less shocking if you had asked for the source of the fact that Buhari is Nigeria's president.


You really like to keep the thread going. There most be so little going on in your life outside nairaland.

jln115:
Why should I agree with anyone? Be it a South African or not? Do you agree with everything your country men say on this thread? Did you agree when one of your compatriots said air is more dens at higher altitude?

Citation that proves Cuban pilots shot down more SAAF pilots than SAAF pilots shot down Cuban pilots.

The Cubans and Russians withdrew out of Angola months before we withdrew, in fact our withdraw was 13 months behind schedule, thus the US put a lot of pressure on the SADF to withdraw out of Angola as it was politically damaging to them to have an Allie on foreign soil when there was no threat from the Soviet Union.

I have never seen a contradictory submissions from any of my country men. You will want to point it out now.

Your fellow countryman contradicted you, sweatly aligning with the official pronouncements of your president and commander in chief.

Hmm, seems I needn't fire any shot in the first place.
You're the one out of order, young man.

Patchesagain:
So now you are just making things up?

Are you avoiding my question because your "source" is a forum no different from this one?

Are you doubting the entire articles written on nairaland?
****modified****You beat Patrick and he logs onto guest mode to observe and lick his wounds in the shadows

Patchesagain:
So now you are just making things up?

Are you avoiding my question because your "source" is a forum no different from this one?

I have called you by your name and like a demented dog, you heed not. Remember when agsugust talked about this letter? You asked for a citiation of it. I supplied you the entire letter.

You shifted and retorted, shamefully, "who cares about a worthless letter"

Now you're back to its source again? Bwahahaha, you're a circus monkey who loves going round and round and arriving at same spot. You have kept the longest thread in NL's history by sheer denial and vain repetition

Patchesagain:
You have yet to provide the source of your excerpt


Please do so, it is a simple request... I find it bizarre that I meet a wall of insults when I request it

It seems to me that you don't want me to see your source

Perhaps because it is not a trust worthy source, perhaps because it invalidates your entire argument

I'm not debating you, I am humiliating you

You need a source for Obasanjor's letter to Thatcher? Jeez! You're embarrassing the very name you bear, you clan and country.

If you need a source for Obasanjor's letter, I should question the circumstances surrounding your very birth and breeding.

You really need someone to gauge your level of Intelectual morbidity.

Patchesagain:
You have yet to provide the source of your excerpt


Please do so, it is a simple request... I find it bizarre that I meet a wall of insults when I request it

It seems to me that you don't want me to see your source

Perhaps because it is not a trust worthy source, perhaps because it invalidates your entire argument

I'm not debating you, I am humiliating you

six months ago this same argument ensued and I provided by sources. You took a hiatus and came up with a doctored wiki as a counter point. You want to go through the whole process of denial again? With a home made edited link?

That's how you've kept this thread for 4 years going?

Patchesagain:
Look, the little snake spews venom when cornered

How cute

Our domiciled Pharisee is preaching the law which he as been found wanting. I came to this thread in 2013, 2 years after you and met you lying in the face of unshakable truth.

You want to rewrite your failed life on the pages of nairaland?

Patchesagain:
OK, so despite saying that I am a troll - and then saying I am not a troll - within the space of 5 min, you have as of yet to deal with the substance of the argument

Instead you pull back and fire a barrage of personal insults, because you know that in an argument of fact and logic you stand no chance.

You are out if your league here, go play somewhere else.

Why ask a question to which sources and proof have been supplied? You have denied the undeniable in your frustrated attempt at relevance here.

This very topic isn't the first. If you accept facts and proof like a man, this thread wouldn't be 5 years going.


You're the prince of personal insecurity, uncertainty and frightfulness.

I have dubbed you what you truely are: #DebateUnworthy

Patchesagain:
You seem to be bending over backwards to avoid my question

Where do you get your "facts" from?

You're not sane enough to spring a logical question or honest enough to ask a genuine one.

You're a pass-time, comic-relief.

Patchesagain:
I find it interesting that you are desperate to avoid discussing the "source" of your "facts"

Your ad hominem attacks are utterly pathetic, adopt a new strategy

You have denied your name here, there's no dirt too putrid for your graceless hands