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mzilakazi:
Fools will always drag you to their level and defeat you. I admit, that's how you defeated me.

skip the theatrics, I refuse to take the bait.


Just show me a clear written word that says mtn controls WACS , that's all I ask.

Lace me with your cheap, evasive insults, I am not fizzled; they didn't answer my questions.

mzilakazi:
I just don't discuss or argue with fools

implicit admission of defeat, you lost. You love quoting me behind my back. Don't drop a source you can't defend. You should know I'll always read it up. SPINELESS LIAR!!!

Dragonking:
If you dont know, all telecom operators flouted the instructions.

Dragonking, what's up? I understand your sympathy for mtn and disdain for the present administration, truelly all the network companies flaunted the law, albeit minimally, except mtn.

I have a ported mtn line which now uses Airtel's services and I remember being rudely disconnected twice for re-registration. Mtn didn't take that pain. So correctly, all the network were affected. Glo, Airtel and Etisalat had few numbers in erring subscribers.

NCC fined the telecoms about #200,000 per defaulting subscriber, but mtn's 5.2 million unregistered subscribers reflected its staggering amount of fine.

mzilakazi:
WACS is operated in South Africa and is controlled by MTN as Majority investor.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WACS_(cable_system)

I told you that you need some education, you fool.

Bwhahaahha, you really are funny. You have since been churning out single line sentence of insults and refuse debating, but no sooner did I compose my closing remark than you made another outrageous claim with a misleading link which actually helps my submissions.

You know I will always go through all your links. But I'm glad you have implicitly admitted that the fibre optic cable is not the determining factor for data and calls in GSM networks. Telecoms can do without them.

Thus you have changed your tactics to controlling and operation. Let me brake your heart again: Mtn doesn't control WACS. As a matter of fact, no where in the link does it expressly state who controls it since it is a multi-company and multinational effort and contribution.

All your lies are spawned by shame and embarrassment. Please read your sources first before posting them.

Below are the companies and nations that constructed and owned the WACS:



VodacomTogo TelecomTelkom (South Africa)Telecom NamibiaTata Communications/NeotelPortugal Telecom/Cabo Verde TelecomOffice Congolais des Postes et TelecommunicationsMTN GroupCongo telecomCable & Wireless WorldwideBroadband InfracoAngola Cables

Alcatel of France did the construction and laying of cables. Terminus station is in London not even south Africa.

Landing ports in pics below. Now give me an exact excerpt from your source which says mtn controls WACS. If you continue like this, you will forever remain a petty, uninformed nuisance the rest of your life.

mzilakazi:
You are a technologically illiterate fool.

@bolded is an engineering English from Soweto.You have left the substance of this debate to chase after vain accusations and trivia banter.

You got your special fibre optic cable all wrong.

1) they can be done without
2) They aren't the exclusive property of mtn
3) South Africa doesn't have an overriding control of the submarine cables.
4) you never read your links before using them to substantiate your bogus claims.

You sound impulsive, hyper-excited with the needy penchant to teach what you haven't finished understanding.

You need to don the cloak of humility and teachability to learn and grow more now that you're still a student and haven't worked for your living.

I'll have to leave you now to drown in your defeat, it is 31st and I'm ending 2015 on a high. Hope to see mtn surface from the mud she's been mired in, after all, NIGERIA loves to cuddle all of Africa.

Be seeing you around, Happy new year.

mzilakazi:
For those who don't know what is a submarine cable and how.important is it with the making of our telecommunications calls.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable

Only from South africa do we have fools emboldened by ignorance and puffed up with a knowledge that they are yet to fully grasp.

Let me mix your blood with saliva now : MTN launched the submarine cables by May 11th 2012 by your own link and source you submitted here.

Have we not been browsing, mms-ing, and calling with mtn line in Nigeria before 2012? Matter of fact, I first browsed with my ported mtn line way back in 2003 without any submarine fibre optics cable. Fool.

mzilakazi:
Are you drunk sir? I don't discuss anything with people who are technologically illiterate, who thinks that you can make calls without a network coverage.

You failed to answer my question so buzz off.

Cheap blackmail, false accusations won't help your argument, you mythical engineer cum quack
I stand by my claims in bold : YOU DON'T REQUIRE FIBRE OPTIC CABLE FOR CALLS, SMS,MMS OR DATA. IT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT. THE SUBMARINES FIBRE OPTIC CABLE IS MAINLY FOR INCREASED BANDWITH AND BROADBAND.IT IS AN ENHANCEMENT.Go call your professor for me. You aren't a worthy adversary as it is.


And I have seen a 1000 partial eclipses,
A lady's demise by he who she pleases
I have seen the premonition of death;
A vague flash of impression:faith's dearth

But I've never seen anything as spectacularly stupidish as what you just typed up there.

mzilakazi:
All I'm saying is that for as long as you are strong enough to spend two years under stone age.

Shush, Zulu. The moment NCC announced the fine, all Zulu hierarchy from south Africa scrambled onto the next available flight to Lagos, crowding the south African high commission to intervene on its behalf. Mtn stock wend down by 25% within days. This is your single largest market in the world.
It took the renewal of your licence by NCC before your shares began appreciating again . we control the market, you dark newt.
It is mtn that is about to be thrown into the stone age.

mzilakazi:
You see why I say that you are technologically illiterate. Voice calls are very much dependent on the network. Cellphones do not use lines isn't?
However, I am still waiting for your answer conscerning submarine cables.

What the _fuck are you typing up there? Better calm down and regain your balance from the e-knocks I've landed you before trying to fight back.

Are you trying to say that voice calls are dependent on fibre optics cable? For your own good let your answer be no.

What more answers do you need about submarine cables? Are you hallucinating or suffering from word-blindness?

mzilakazi:
You are going about the basics. My friend I am an engineering student at CUT and I excel in electronics. Leave those things about GSM, 3G and LTE because they are irrelevant here. Tell me what do you know anything about submarine cables? MTN was not stupid to have everything controlled in its headquarters including those in the middle east.


http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2012/05/west-africa-cable-system-officially-launched-in-south-africa/

An engineering student? _fuck's that to do with the discourse here? Won't you leave before I incapacitate you further? I'm a law/political scientist by training but I _fucking read a bloody lot.

Now take this: The argument here is that if mtn leaves they throw Nigeria into darkness. That's your assertion, your claim. And you base this on your hyped fibre optics cable. I am here to call you a lier, an ignoramus and a Soweto, mythical engineer

First off what the _fuck is the function of the fibre optics underwater cable? Mainly increase in bandwidth and broadband. In other words, GSM networks will still make voice call, MMS, SMS and data (internet surfing) without them.

Who funded this optics fibre cable? Your own source says it is ALL OF US.

HOW DOES IT OPEREATE ? each country has it own station for maintainance and repairs and operation. So if mtn leaves, they can't take what's not theirs to begin with.

Glo has fibre optics that went all the way to Europe and US.

I believe engineering student were taught logic in first year in schools -they are in Nigeria- you better start using yours.

mzilakazi:
You see, that's where you are wrong. MTN installed optic fibre cable undersea that runs from South Africa to its stations across Africa and is crontrolled in South Africa. You never knew anything about that info. MTN will simply discomnet the whole of Naija and that will affect all the providers who have sub under MTN lines as well. Welcome back to stone age.


http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2012/05/west-africa-cable-system-officially-launched-in-south-africa/

Mzilakazi, you have to work with my pace and be spontaneous. I dislike afterthoughts, remodification of submissions after i have quoted them. You modified this comment with a link and and image after I had quoted it.

Now I just took the pain of reading the link and I shivered in the realisation that you don't read your own link before posting them. So take your position let me slay you with the bullet you brought with your own hand.



Your link says the fibre optics cost $650 million dollars, and mtn contribution was $90million. Other regional players in west Africa contributed to the project. Although mtn is the largest donor but you will admit that $90 million dollars in $650 is a small fry.

Second, the fibre optics cable isn't operating independently, it is co-working with other fibre optics and underwater wirring in the regions.

What's more, the fibre optics all have terminus stations where they are run and maintained independently in all countries.

So you shot yourself in the foot.
Mtn ain't _shit and I'll kick them out if they don't comply. Your inappreciable fibre optics is co-funded, co-owned and operate independently from country to country.


Isn't it time you bowed to me and enrolled as my pupil? NONSENSE!

mzilakazi:
You see, that's where you are wrong. MTN installed optic fibre cable undersea that runs from South Africa to its stations across Africa and is crontrolled in South Africa. You never knew anything about that info. MTN will simply discomnet the whole of Naija and that will affect all the providers who have sub under MTN lines as well.



https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5827/23506771662_847f708f69_n.jpg

Now take your routine front seat for your Nigerian free education. GSM is a flexible technology based on 1st generation or GPRS technology, 2nd generation, EDGE, 3rd Generation, 3G and at the moment 4G which is of course 4G network or LTE. All these phases have different infrastructure for long distant calls and 3G services and core GSM functionality.

The core GSM technology is the old 1 and 2 generation technology and they are glued in each respective country like statues (physically)

Your fibre optics are mainly for intercontinental calls and connectivity which Glo has successfully done years back across Europe and America under sea. Still your claims are laughable because all GSM network in Nigeria still uses the old Nigeria Nitel satellite.

Glo is in Ghana and does not control the fibre optics from Nigeria. You're a Soweto draft. You think GSM operates like dstv? Mumu.

Again, mtn Nigeria has considerable shares by Nigerians, do you know that ?

Before the installation of fibre optics, GSM has been conducting SMS, MMS, voice and internet data. Go back to school or enrole for your free tuition here.

My benevolence extends even to unappreciative Zulus.

mzilakazi:
When I mean disconnected I dont literally mean that everything will be uprooted from the ground. MTN control all their stations from South Africa. That way Nigeria will be disconnected from the World and all MTN infrastructure will become a white elephant.

The GSM technology does not allow for such operational flexibility. MTN Nigeria has its infrastructure in Nigeria. You're a fart-bellowing ignoramus, your emboldened mythical assertions is pure comedy to me.

MTN NIGERIA HAS ADMINISTRATIVE AND OPERATIONAL LINKAGES WITH MTN SOUTH AFRICA, NOT INFRASTRUCTURE. you're a dounce with pap for brains.

You think GSM technology is a pure satellite base technology? Zulu-gibbon like you. It is mast to base stations essentially with fiber optics cables for long distance calls. You Soweto clown.

Why do you think a single city has so many mast scattered everywhere?

When I boot mtn outta naija, they leave with their briefcases and files back to Soweto where the market is over saturated. Other GSM brands are dying to replace them in Africa's largest market and one of the world's biggest active GSM subscriber market.

mzilakazi:
Imposing fines is truly not a bad practice, but going across the board is detrimental to the life of a business as well as pushing away potential investors.

NCC repeatedly called on all Network to comply with the directives. Deadlines were shifted, concessions were given , partial penalties were handed. Others complied but mtn. At the end, erring networks were fined along with mtn, but the numbers of unregistered sbscribers in airtel, Glo, Etisalat were insignificant so though the fine was uniform but mtn had so much unregisterd subscribers that reflected in the fine. After the DSS discovered that most terrorists used unregisterd lines for communication,they appealed to the NCC to intervene. Mtn decline access to the investigating team and shut down access to their data base. A security meeting was convened to be attended by all telecom bosses and top security brass, of all the telecom in Nigeria, only mtn attended that meeting with low-level staff without portfolios. And when it came to light that mtn has a whooping 5.2 million defaulters, the hammer had to fall hard. If I were the NCC boss, mtn's licence will be revoked forthwith.

mzilakazi:
Especially when the gravity of offence is not equal to the fine imposed. You cannot truly use foreign investors as a coy to help fund your budget. President Buhari made it clear that indictment of foreign companies will become part of his operations in fighting corruption. It is clear that the man wants to treat economy just like senior soldiers punish privates in military camps. Buhari is only good as military man, but truly not as a President for he will destroy everything that Jonathan ever built.

If a foreign company is corrupt like you said, what is wrong in indicting them? Why aren't Airtel, Vodafone, Etisalat targeted? The Nigerian economy is going through a rough patch but it still outperforms the south African economy. If Buhari didn't spare corrupt Nigerians, why should he spare corrupt multinationals? Jonathan has done his bit and he did well, Buhari represents infrastructural changes both to the machinery of governance and administration. It's a different game altogether. You have little Intelectual prowess to dabble into those frivolous accusations you make. Buhari stands head above Zuma or any other Zulu president who can't make a single political statement without heating up the polity locally and within your own SADC.

mzilakazi:
South Africa is very tolerant when it comes to foreign investment. When any foreign company which is of a value to its market flount its regulations it won't rush to impose a hefty fine. It will afford the other party to present its case and listen whether it was deliberate or unintentional. It will only be after everything else has been exhausted that they will consider applying some little lashes but not to kill the company.

It should be borne in mind that foreign investment is important to our developments. They create jobs; sponsor major events and sports; sponsor education and offer scholarships to our students to study in local and overseas universities; they are major contributors of revenues through tax and also they help develop infrastructure through investment.

Why do we have to go to foreign countries to ask for investment? We invite them to our countries and when they do wrong we want to kill them without looking into facts. Investors are also not in our mercy, they can as well drop us like a hot potato and leave us with a dwindling economy.

How many foreign telecommunications firms are in south Africa?

Do I add that South Africa is very hostile to African companies seeking to do business there? You prefer FDI from Europe and the West.

Mtn's 5.2 million unregistered subscribers is a matter of criminal negligence and administrative malpractice. Your Chief CEO Sifiso Dabengwa, admitted complacency and resigned in South Africa.

For long, the international community has derided Nigeria for her seemingly weak institutions, lack of implementation of laws and corruption and dubbed her the nation of "anything goes".

We're turning that around and you still complain?
Tell me about China. Just this week China slammed foreign shipping and cargo companies millions of dollars. Their crime? They were encouraging monopoly and artificially raising prices. Need I remind you that Chinese economy is based on cheap labour, taxes and export of these foreign companies? These companies are from Japan, Germany, Scandinavia and south America. They owned up, paid the fines and promised the Chines government the incidence won't occur in the future.

Last year, British multinational, GlaxoSmithKline, BMW, Audi were caught breaking the Chinese laws, they were heftily fined millions in dollars. These companies tendered a heart warming apology to the people of China. After paying the fine.

Nigeria's shouldn't be too different. We open up our market to you, you play by the rules and abide by the laws that were prerequisite to your licence issuance.


And just for the records, mtn is in no position to peacock with Nigeria. We are the 10th largest mobile Internet users world-wide, we are Africa's number 1 GSM subscribers and Mtn biggest market. You don't intimidate us or blackmail us. You can't comply with the rules, then ship off to Soweto.


Other GSM operators had complied and were fined roughly #200,000 per subscribers for the breach.

Mtn's huge data of unregistered subscribers that totalled a jaw-dropping 5.2 million, plus your uncooperative attitude with NCC, DSS necessitated the fine.

If this happened in South Africa, you would go xenophobic on the rest of Africa. Pay up or buzz off.

mzilakazi:
Should MTN leave they disconnect everything. Their fibre cables, Masts and network stations. They will even disconnect Nigeria from the world with the billions dollars that they have paid to install optic fibre cables below the ocean.

In the event mtn refuses to pay the fine and licence is revoked and Nigeria nationalised the firm, all infrastructure remains. Mtn staff from S.A takes the next available flight. This isn't some love-gone-sour game by teenagers where gifts are recalled. No.

Your claim of mtn disconnecting Nigeria from the world is as foolish as your early submissions. I have two mobiles and a laptop and none uses mtn lines.

mzilakazi:
Should MTN leave they disconnect everything. Their fibre cables, Masts and network stations. They will even disconnect Nigeria from the world with the billions dollars that they have paid to install optic fibre cables below the ocean.

In the event mtn refuses to pay the fine and licence is revoked and Nigeria nationalised the firm, all infrastructure remains. Mtn staff from S.A takes the next available flight. This isn't some love-gone-sour game by teenagers where gifts are recalled. No.

Your claim of mtn disconnecting Nigeria from the world is as foolish as your early submissions. I have two mobile's and a laptop and none uses mtn lines.

sunnyb0b0:
Why should they be questioned? Are they the ones that award contracts for roads construction?

Most federal roads in the east have Igbo contractors or overlords

martineverest:
kachikwu and emefiele are ikas not anioma...ikas and ikwerre traced their root to bini kingdom.. They hate being called ibos

Ika is a local government in Delta north, not a tribe. Anioma is an acronym coined by Denis Osadebey and co. and never a tribe.

Let us skip the political conveniencies and tell the kids the blunt truth that doesn't appeal all the time.

Ebuka3344:
Minister of mineral resources.

That's a large inclusive inference on your part. But then, even if Delta north are Igbos, it still doesn't make them endorse the Biafran course. Biafra isn't a byword for Igbo or igbo-speaking.

wordcat:
we will answer but do u agree with the president that Delta is part of Biafra?

Where did the president imply Delta is Biafra?

SINNZ:
Very smooth bro. Feels so good to be in the company of family. Especially my dog!! Missed him so much!!


I was really young then but I was privileged to be living in a public yard with a cyber cafe in it
That's how it all started!

Family is home and comfort,bro. Somehow, I've never fully enjoyed Xmas and New year meals outside home. Something about eating a once-a-year meal in a familiar environment with faces that you've seen forever, in same dish and cutlery just make the meal to have a special appeal.

I debuted in 2013 after I felt I had had enough from the sidelines reading the harangues from our friends from Ghana and South Africa. I simply came for them. And then I discovered the rest of NL, needn't bookmark so many e-news sites anymore, made it a part of my leisure for pastime, lazy surfing for news, entertainment and play.

What specie is your dog?

SINNZ:
Not really. I just didn't take note of my passwords each time I register. Kept loosing them.

How'd your trip go? Didn't know you've been on here that long

Docmann:
Have to create a New Nick for this,Just to hide My identity.Please am not begging anybody to believe this life experience i just wrote down

here, Rather for all to be careful with who ever you are having an unprotected sex with in life, either male or female...Please pardon my Use of

words and spellings.

A friend of mine Visited me in my office,we started discussing as usual, along the line he brought up his personal issues just to get some idea from

me. He told me how he was having serious issues with his Girl friend he loves so much, in the area of him Putting on a CD during Love Making. He

told me that it has been causing so much problem for the both of them in his relationship, because the Gf dont like her guy using CD to make

love to her, because she felt like she is a prostitute and she dont enjoy it, rather she prefer raw Love making..He told me that he would have

love to do it raw, But if he does it he will surely release inside her and his not ready to have a baby for now, That he can only do it raw when

she has fully becomes his wife..They have been dating for like 6months now,they have only made love about 4times, but most times it always

end up in quarreling between both because of the CD Thing, though she works and stay far from him..The pressure was becoming so much on

him from this lady he love, so i advised him to take the lady to the hospital to run blood and pregnancy test on her, that's one condition you will

only give to her before you can Make love with her raw without using protection if she agrees okay. He called me on the phone after some days

gone by, he told me that His Gf refused to follow him to the hospital, that she only brought a pregnancy test to show it to him that she is not

pregnant. He was so confused, yet still blinded by real love for the lady, but something in me kept telling me that the lady is up to something

bad, so i have to do everything to make sure he stays away for sometime from the lady before he might fall into the lady request, so that i can

be able to figure out what to do just to help him out...I Finally figured out a way for us to be fully sure that she dont have any problem inside

her, I told my friend to invite her during this xmas holiday,plead with her and tell her you are now ready to do raw love making without CD with

her, That when she comes we will drug her favorite drink she likes, when she dose off, i will now take little of her blood just to put on the Hand

made easy blood Test Device..We both agreed on that, he called the lady and invited her to his house, she was so happy coming to spend some

days with her man..She came around, she was introduce to me by my friend, her laughter was so natural,very friendly to be with,tall and very

beautiful in nature. We really discussed a lot, i distracted her from not paying attention to my friend while he was pouring drink for the 3 of us,

drink was served by him,i rushed mine pretending to be going home because it was getting late in the night,she drank hers hoping to see me off,

but after some few minute she started feeling dizzy, i knew it was the effect of the drug. She slept off, i quickly took little sample of her

blood, i tested her blood immediately, you wont believe what i find out, The result was HIV Positive showing clear for we to see, i did the test

4times in front of my friend still the same, he almost fainted. I check his, it showed Negative..This happened a day ago, I stayed with him all the

night, just to make sure he dont do anything nasty to the lady. She woke up after like 40min,she saw little stain of blood in one of her thumb,

but couldnt take it serious, she was so shock to see me, because she thought i have already gone home, she asked me wont i go home is

already late in the night. I said, am sleeping here tonight because i have a lot to discuss with your guy..She changed her mood,she went inside

the room to sleep, I and my friend were awake all through out in the parlor..Morning time, guess she faked an urgent call she parked her things

back inside her bag, demanded for some money,which my friend did gave her enough, off she went away..I Felt weak and down, for breaking

there relationship and also for treating the lady in such manner in other to find out her hidden agenda..My conscience has been disturbing

me,though my friend thanked me a lot and now sees me as a Guardian Angel.... But please Guys,Ladies be careful of who you want to have an

unprotected Sex With, HIV IS REAL and is not written on each person forehead...But lets keep showing much love and care toward all the

affected ones, hoping sooner,wishing one day there cure will come and they will bounce back healthy again.

Who are we to judge? You feel worse already. My take? Get your patriarchal penchants off people's lives. Both your friend and this lady or any other lady in the future. You're not really looking out for your friend; you're baby-sitting him with a very long puppet string. Every action of yours here undermines the oath of your proffession (assuming you're a doctor).


She's damned for having a wicked motive, but her non-compliance to testing for HIV and her willingness to declare her pregnancy status was all a giveaway that confirmed what she's been hiding. It was a wasted effort on your part.


How long are you going to keep strapping your friend and changing his diapers?

You played the emergency doctor, albeit in a dubious way, but you didn't end it with a post HIV-screening counseling.

Creamish:
Ur welcome. It's my truth. I do admire the way you express your opinions...

I know, Dear. Thanks.

Creamish:
I don't have nominees for all stated categories...so..


*Best Poster ; Lezz

*Most Entertaining Poster - Male: KingTom

*Most Active Poster - Introvert

*Moderator of the year - Lalasticlala

*Best Oldie/Romance Section Legend(Handle Must Be Older Than 1st July 2014) - Kachisbarbie

*Romance Section Hall Of Fame - Rokiatu

Now this is ending the year with a tantalising flattery that did its job of raising the hair in my head, enlarging the whites in my eyes with a pilomotor reflex.


Thank you, Creamy.

peeparty:
Baba i dey enugu now oo,come bak come show me way oo

Lolz. Does one really need a city "guide" in Enugu? The city is one large circle and latest joints trend long enough.

SINNZ:
I'll be leaving this place for my hometown 2mao. So I should do the crossing over with my fam

Wuh about you?

Stuck on Warri until 3rd, then off to Enugu. Ok, bro, safe journey home and have a blissful and fulfilled New yearyear ahead.

SINNZ:
Nah bro.. Haven't had a reason to come yet.

Oh,OK. No ruling out the possibility though.

Where are you celebrating the new year?

TrapKNNG:
Seriously in mens favour bro

Enugu is a complete state. Owerri is roughly the smallest LGA out of 27 in Imo state. So you see the difference.

Darn so small and so loaded. You come to Enugu at all?

TrapKNNG:
There's IMSU FUTO FEDPONEK ALVAN & IMOPOLY in one small town


I'm not a soccer fanatic bro

Hmn, I see, the ratio of women to men in that town will be oddly in men's favour.

Enugu seems like this too with Esut, UNEC, IMT, Caritas, Ossisatec and Godfrey Okoye University. But Caritas and Ossisatec don't allow their students out.

Still Enugu is flowing with women.

TrapKNNG:
LOL.. You just can't be in that town and not wanna have a slice of it. That's why hotels and nite-clubs are an industry of its own!


A[b] little town like Owerri houses 5 tertiary institutions bro, FIVE! wuh the fvck do u expect??
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If you're handsome or rich then you'll have them crawling at your feet cos they know that competition is strife! But if you're both rich and handsome, then your own don done be that oo e don be for you!!

I never thought of it this way. I have always wondered what's in Owerri that draws these exceptional girls to this city.

The average Igbo girl is a beauty, but in Owerri, it is the selection of the very best.

What's your take on Manu -Chelsea ?