₦airaland Forum

mzilakazi:
Yep, your government has secretly hired SA mercenaries, former executive outcomes who are very notorious of having taken part on heavy killings in Sierra Leone where thousands of people shed blood for diamonds. Watch the blood diamond to understand it better. Now your government contracted them to train your rag tag army, just like they trained many armies in Africa.

you really are a southafrican: foolishness and imbecility flows in your DNA .

stop embarrassing your country and your surname. take a pap-break and cool off.

Nigeria rejected, China, France, Israel and Canada but accepted a backwater, HIV infected, ragtag and inexperience , battle deficient southafrica.

come to the synagogue like most of your compatriots do, it's your turn for deliverance.

mzilakazi:
Yet, many people die of AIDS in Nigeria than anywhere in the world. That sound very hypocritical indeed.

Well, about your ladies, they have turned themselves into prostitutes in SA. The street of Bloemfontein are filled with these unattractive flat-curved women who does not see us as slaves at and instead as people who can provide where Nigerian men have failed.

all sources and citations here points that southafrica is no 1 in all HIV/AIDS related matter. that's your exclusive preserve.

Southafrican men are bushmen, child rapist, last century savages and blaming their inhumanity and failures on apartheid. how could men who undeniably have the crown of the biggest rapists and murderers in the world be a female charmer.

your mumu-ism is plentiful enough to change the colour of the river Nile.

mzilakazi:
Our boys are currently training your rag tag army in secret. They are shaping them to the level that we want.

in secret? I have been having this feeling I've been debating with a teenager or a kid in an adults body.

mzilakazi:
I repeat, we will r.ape your military and take all your female soldiers to ourselves.

Nigeria does not know the stats of HIV within their military men, yet what we only know is that they have the highest mortality caused by AIDS related conditions in the whole world. What we only know is that Nigeria always claims to have the lowest rate of AIDS. The question is " is this claim true?"

this aids stuff is really getting under your skin

Our HIV is miraculously low and our soldiers are free and a perfect reflection of our HIV society just like yours is a reflection of your HIV ridden society.

just like Ebola, if Nigerians become HIV threat it would pose a humanitarian disaster on the region by our sheer size.
our ladies see you Gus are semi-slaves who just embarked from their jungles and caves in 1994. You know, dull and violent.

your ladies on the other hand, seems to have only one talent when they come across a Nigeria stud: that's to lay on their backs with their legs apart.

judging by the number of female southafrican international drug pimps Nigerian drug Lords command and the sheer numbers of young southafrican females given birth for Nigerian males, you shouldn't even go near this topic.

MikeCZAR:
No training capabilities whatsoever, PMCs including South Africans are in your bases training your men.

Your "so called special forces" are also trained abroad.

Sophisticated amos? From where? You're panic buying obsolete second hand equipment from former soviet countries.

HIV/AIDS is just a virus, a soldier infected can be healthier than a soldier who isn't.

you are boring. southafrica training Nigerian army can't sell anywhere. you're running out of ideas. try something reasonable.

southafrica hasn't gone to war not once. your multinational mission was headed by Tanzania. small boys

mzilakazi:
What I know is that the ambassador is not a SA government particularly an NPA (National Prosecuting Authority). He cannot speak on behalf of an independent authority and neither is Zuma. That will be called interfering with judiciary arbitrarily. An offence which might even lead to the passing of motion of no confidence on the executive.

However, it is by no mistake that we unveil to you that your money is still in this Pretoria waiting to be included with million other confiscated cash in our national budget.

first of I think you are a destitute of political knowhow.

your ambassador who is in most instance your president in whatever country that has your embassy cannot come on live tv and speak on an issue of international relations without having clearance and briefings of the situation in Pretoria.

there's no interference. your Judicial and criminal justice systems are rift with corruption. apart from Russia, southafrica is home to the world biggest organised crime syndicates.(over 700) and not up to 2% are ever prosecuted.

just like Detroit of America, so is southafrica decaying and falling like a dissolving cube of sugar. Zulu+ Bantu+ tswana = transformation of a progreessive apartheid southafrica into a jungle of disorder, corruption and mass murder.

mzilakazi:
If there is any person on earth who needs mental fumigation then is you. Firstly, Indonesia is not a member of BRICS, it is "I" for India. BRICS is made up of countries which are known as newly industrialised nations or in brief "NIC". SA, Russia, China, Brazil and India were all promoted from developing countries to NIC somewhere around 2012. So, now tell me how the hell will SA ever want Nigeria to become the member when Nigeria is not even a modernised industrialised nation? Are you crazy? Brics invite many countries in their meetings as guests and that's what they wanted Nigeria for, dummy.

BRICS does not use that drunken criteria of yours in order to become a member. India and Russia are not even on the top spot on the respective continents. BRICS only wanted an industrialised nation as a qualification and SA was just that perfect candidate in Africa. Nigeria might have the biggest economy but they will have to kneel down when facing SA mass industry. We control all your industries in Nigeria, our companies built them including some of your tiny power stations. SA rule Nigeria in every sector, boy. Even your President Badluck Jonathan begged for the investment of SA manufacturing companies in the Nigeria market during his visit in SA, dummy.

you sound desperate and drowning, please do not hang onto that " I " there's an I in both mint and brics. one is for Indonesia and one for India. it's simple an error of a genius.
So do not clutch on that like a dying man.now, the most advanced in brics is Russia, she still isn't not an industrialized country, neither is China and Brazil. India and south Africa are a frigging third world country. Russia is still being squeezed into the G7 by US as part of deal on arms proliferation

imfact UNAID, described your high crime rate as a typical example of a developing country. I repeat brics did not invite Nigeria. southafrica did because she knows she'll soon be an unqualified member.

Brazil is the biggest economy in southamerica, India is the biggest economy in her region, China is the biggest economy in far east and all of Asia, rusia is the biggest economy in Europe outside the EU. hehe olodo,

you are an itinerant, nairaland e-squatter with a brain size the length of a grain of rice.

Nigeria's industrialization is evolving in an alarming pace and that's giving southafrica the jitters.

French president just said that coming to invest in Africa without coming to Nigeria is madness. imfact he said for any investor to miss Nigeria, then he hasn't come to Africa.

we didn't really need to surpass you beleive me. southafrica is decaying by your very hands . from 1994 till today and to the next 500 year's southafrica is decaying and melting away. do not hang on the anglodutch southafrica Of the apartheid era.

that southafrica is long gone since 20 years ago. what we have now is a third world country of savage rapists, murderers, drug sniffing , brain-dead illiterate bantus, Zulus and tswanas who can't even govern themselves.

sales boy, mark my words today and see.
now go write your waiting customers their receipts.
slowpoke.

mzilakazi:
Your money is still in Pretoria, dummy. The government said they will use it together with other seized illegal cash to substantiate the budget of the police.

you're such a hopless loser. there's no shame in accepting Pretoria fears Abuja.
your ambassador has spoken and a douchbag like you shouldn't be trading rumours and wild speculation. I know you guys don't have a life outside of nairaland but I'm trying to watch afcon finals

mzilakazi:
Yet they will rap.e your army until the owner comes out to plead for his dying dog. Your rag tag army will not stand a chance at all.

your army hasn't even learnt the simple lessons from rhino poachers.

a rag tag army can always retrain and re equip. but what do we do with a army that is over ridden with AIDS. so you will be equppes them with anti retroviral drugs while your enemies are equipping themselves with sophisticated Amos.

mzilakazi:
MINT is just only an abstract idea that exist only in dream land. In reality is dead.

SA is an official member of BRICS. The force that will soon rule the world. SA already paid billions of dollars to BRICS for the establishment of their own independent bank.

your brain really needs fumigation. brics is an association of economic and political desperadoes who need attention.
they need all the big players to come on-board to make it viable. that's why your country is desperate to have Nigeria there. hehe.

Oya let's do this logical test. brics comprise Brazil, Russia, China, Indonesia, and southafrica. all these countries are there regions economic giant except southafrica . Russia and China aren't even in your league. you became a brics member when you were the no 1 economy in Africa

So what we have now is BRIC......lol.

mzilakazi:
Meaning Nigeria does not know where does it stand with regard to AIDS statistics.

HIV/AIDS is a by word for southafrica.

mzilakazi:
If the world does not listen to us, then we will r.ape Nigeria militarily until the dog owner comes out.

you don't have enough fuel or trained peronel for your jets
Plus your Bantu and Zulu soldiers need anti retroviral drugs to even stand up and carry guns,lol

Patchesagain:
wrong again'
http://saharareporters.com/2014/12/04/exclusive-contrary-reports-south-africa-still-holding-nigeria%E2%80%99s-seized-15-million-arms

you're not wrong. you're a list and a complicated case. http://www.punchng.com/news/south-africa-returns-seized-15m-to-nigeria/

below would be an excerpt from your ambassador to Nigeria:“South Africa’s relation with Nigeria is priceless; it cannot be sold for $15m,” he said.

mzilakazi:
Do you even know that Nigeria does not have one single reliable official HIV/AIDS stats?

so?

Patchesagain:
O look, he is giving us his opinion again.

No one cares, stick to facts and get on with it.

I dont think I need to remind you that we are a member of BRICS

you mean just as we are a member of MINT? technically, you shouldn't be there by now. when it is ratified your azz is out.
talking about Brics, do you know that your government has repeatedly ask Nigeria to attend bricks meetings and we turned it down?

My opinion just happens to be facts.....hard ones.

Patchesagain:
1. Rape, we arent even in the top 5 for rape
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/top-5-countries-highest-rates-rape-1434355

2. Homicide, we arent even in the top 10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

3. Violence, in terms of this South Africa is 122nd in the world, Nigeria is 151ts (which means Nigeria is a more violent country than South Africa)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index

4. HIV/AIDS, South Africa is 4th in the world
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate

Again, facts have shown that you are utterly and completely wrong. Only a troglodyte would continue to argue in such circumstances. But please, continue, the mental gymnastics you have to do to fuel your delusions is most entertaining.

ok, you don't own up that's a bad character flaw.

my sources about your crime and HIV rates is 2006 and 2013 respectively. ok, let's try again: The 2007 UNAIDS report estimated that 5,700,000 South Africans had HIV/AIDS, or just under 12% of South Africa's population of 48 million. In the adult population the rate is 18.5%. The number of infected is larger than in any other single country in the world.
HIV/AIDS in South Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.m.wikipedia.org/.../HIV/AIDS_in_Sou...
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Patchesagain:
1. We still have your money

2. We are funneling vast profits out of your economy and into ours

We have a simple policy, first we embarrass you, then you over react and threaten our buisness interests - investors take note that Nigerian government is willing to do such acts and question wether it is a sound investment oppertunity - and then we continue

Its pretty obvious what we are doing, and its pretty effective - considering we are still the continents No 1 FDI destination

your ANC government can't even add two plus two let alone come up with an international scheme.

southafrica is rotting away son. we have bleeped you economically and in destination of FDI. any source you quote about the volume of foreign direct investment must be in 2013 and 2014 not later. that was when the table turned.

again southafrica's opinnion don't count internationally, the world doesn't care. your ANC is an embarrassment to Africa. Its policies and opinion are always out of sync with international expectation.

so if the Nigerian government nationalize shoprite, or dstv, the world wouldnt notice your yellings.

Patchesagain:
1. We still have your money

2. We are funneling vast profits out of your economy and into ours

We have a simple policy, first we embarrass you, then you over react and threaten our buisness interests - investors take note that Nigerian government is willing to do such acts and question wether it is a sound investment oppertunity - and then we continue

Its pretty obvious what we are doing, and its pretty effective - considering we are still the continents No 1 FDI destination

are all southafricans really daft.

your country has returned that money over 3 months with double hands and a public appplogy.

don't bore me with your stupidity.

Patchesagain:
Using 15 year old data shows us what?

You said we were the worlds Number 1 in terms of violence - you have been proven to be very very wrong.

The only tears I have are of laughter - your attempts to hold any form of argument with me are hysterical.

number 1 in murder, number 1 in rape, number 1 in AIDS.
laugh to that. hehehehehe

Patchesagain:
Seized properties? Where?

"Anglo-Dutch companies"? Thats a strange way of spelling "South African Companies"

these companies are being arm twisted to employ lazy black folks and making them shareholders.
they are corporate assylum seekers escaping inefficiencies back home.

saengine:
Your uncle selling drugs in Hillbrow is lying to you.

Sasol - no Nigerians
Transnet - no Nigerians
Denel - no Nigerians
South African Breweries - no Nigerians
SAA - no Nigerians
CSIR - no Nigerians
Vodacom/MTN/Cell C etc - no Nigerians
PetroSA - no Nigerians
Our Mining industry - no Nigerians
Hundreds of engineering workshops on the East Rand of Gauteng where I live and work - definitely NO Nigerians. You're more likely to bump into a unicorn than find a Nigerian fitter and turner in Gauteng.

The list goes on and on. The percentage of Nigerians who work in SA's key industries is a non entity. As i said, don't let uncle Ogubugu who came here in 1996 lie to you.

I'll tell you what Nigerians are very good at doing in SA. They're good at opening "internet cafes", "computer shops" and hair salons. Where ever they settle, they completely destroy property prices and quality of living if they're numbers arent kept in check. Thats the mistake which was made in Hillbrow and Berea, Johannesburg. That part of Joburg just needs to be nuked. Same mistake on the East Rand, Germiston and Springs. As soon as a small Nigerian community moves in, all hell breaks loose.

So no....Nigerians are not high powered CEO's and executives running our big industries. They are not bright engineers and technicians coming up with new ideas at the CSIR and Denel. They are unwanted rats, hated on every corner of this planet.

If the world was to have a vote. Which immigrant nationality is hated the most....Nigerians would win the gold, silver and bronze.

emotional tears, son. southafrican blacks are the most savage, moronik, illiterate, unemployable low life, scum of the earth you can find on any corner of the globe.

ANC are diverting the resources of whites to build and feed lazy Bantu, tswana and Zulu folks. whites are being forced to employ and make lazy, unqualified and illiterate Zulu men shareholders.

deny that other blacks from Africa weren't taking up your job positions. were lazy Bantu men not killing and rioting that zimbabweans, namibians, Nigerians etc leave?

Yes, some Nigerians found a shorter way to wealth when they discovered your docile and wasteful conditions from corrupt ANC government and they profit from selling drugs to your lunnies.

your women are all putting up naija blinders and can never see you for an ything other than a wild, vilolent, white-blaming rapist.

government feed your poor poor children in schools as we speak.
spend just 5 minutes out of nairaland and you'll see what is happening outside.

Patchesagain:
A looong post trying to talk around one simple fact:

South African companies dominate the Nigerian economy

Nigeria is part of our hegemony, you are our Economic B1tch

where are you, facts falsifing rough. I have presented you with all the facts that SouthAfrica is number 1 in rape. number 1 in homicide, number 1 in violence and number 1 in HIV/AIDS. cat's got your mouth now?

Patchesagain:
A looong post trying to talk around one simple fact:

South African companies dominate the Nigerian economy

Nigeria is part of our hegemony, you are our Economic B1tch

where are you, facts falsifing rough. I have presented you with all the facts that SouthAfrica is number 1 in rape. number 1 in homicide, number 1 in violence and number 1 in HIV/AIDS. cat's your mouth now?

Patchesagain:
A looong post trying to talk around one simple fact:

South African companies dominate the Nigerian economy

Nigeria is part of our hegemony, you are our Economic B1tch

where are you, facts falsifing rough. I have presented you with all the facts that SouthAfrica is number 1 in rape. number 1 in homicide, number 1 in violence and number 1 in HIV/AIDS.

MduZA:
since you fail to give your own country stats...your point does not hold water

lol, that's an implicit admission of defeat.
thanks for participating. better luck next time.

MduZA:
you seem to know our crime stats but you can't give your country stats,my country releases our crime stats for everyone to see unlike your country....a Nigerian friend of mine once told be that crime is high in Nigeria but many of those crimes are not reported to the police because victims are afraid of victimization either by perpetrators or police themselves,on other threads genuine Nigerians are discussing about rape cases taking place in your country but you pretend like if all is well....

murder and crime is a universal phenomenon but southafrica is the world's murder capital and savagery.
now as bad as your crime rate is, it is still under reported.

MduZA:
fact of the matter is an average black south African lives much better life than an average Nigerian....a rural south African villager has access to clean pure tap water that a urban middle class Nigerian can only dream of...desmond tutu is a south African who has rights to criticize his own government unlike people who are afraid to criticize their own government ,all in the name of patriotism ...you can dream and sing on top of your voice,fact of the matter is SA and Nigeria are not in the same league...your leaders always come down to ask for assistance...recently your energy minister was seen crying on TV begging south African companies to rescue your country power troubles...your country is now begging my country to revive your mining industry,in April south African banks will start financing vehicle sales in your remote country...my man I can go on and on...just show your artificial muscles to your fellow west Africans,be cautious though,The mighty Chad can invade your country if they want...

you Gus are also unemployed.
 
The Most Murderous Societies On Earth
 
The Nedcore Project has concluded that: "South Africa and Southern Africa are probably the most murderous societies on earth, even with the probable under-reporting." The Nedcore Project claims the results of their surveys "underscore the fact that crime has become South Africa's pre-eminent sociological problem. It now eclipses even unemployment in concerns of all South Africans."

MduZA:
fact of the matter is an average black south African lives much better life than an average Nigerian....a rural south African villager has access to clean pure tap water that a urban middle class Nigerian can only dream of...desmond tutu is a south African who has rights to criticize his own government unlike people who are afraid to criticize their own government ,all in the name of patriotism ...you can dream and sing on top of your voice,fact of the matter is SA and Nigeria are not in the same league...your leaders always come down to ask for assistance...recently your energy minister was seen crying on TV begging south African companies to rescue your country power troubles...your country is now begging my country to revive your mining industry,in April south African banks will start financing vehicle sales in your remote country...my man I can go on and on...just show your artificial muscles to your fellow west Africans,be cautious though,The mighty Chad can invade your country if they want...

really? A country where 50 murders take place daily? Let's do this math: 50*365= SouthAfrica's murder rate.

now you must be swamp mouse to believe the average black southafrican who is a savage, moroniik, illiterate, violent rapist of adult and infants with saliva drooling from his lips left open by lack of personal awarness, could come anywhere near Nigerians who are masters of there land, economy and destiny.sing me another song

@ mugu patchesagain, you claimed Nigeria is a failed state and southafrica is so civilized. and you wanted sources. I told you I don't usually do the source thing because I read wide and extensive just as you lazy around in nairaland looking for a sense of purpose and ego massage. here's another citation from your government agency. read for my pleasure and your horror:he most notable aspect of the crime statistics for 2012/13 is that the violent crimes that cause the most fear and trauma amongst the public have increased. For the first time in six years there is an increase in both the number and rate of murders and attempted murders. Murder is an important indicator both because it is the most accurate of all crime categories and because it is internationally seen to be an indicator of a country’s stability. There was also a small increase in the number of sexual offences recorded by the police.

The facts about the increases in interpersonal violence are as follows:

Incidents of murder increased from 15 609 murders in 2011/12 to 16 259 murders in 2012/13.
This means that there was an increase of 650 murder cases or a 4,2% increase when comparing the total numbers of murders with the previous year.
This works out to almost two additional murders per day on average during the 2012/13 financial year.
Consequently, our murder rate increased from a total average of 43 murders per day to 45 murders per day.
Using the correct census data for 2011, the murder rate in 2011/12 was 30.3 per 100,000 population and not 30,9 as reported by SAPS in the last reporting period.
The murder rate for 2012/13 stood at 31.3 per 100,000 population which reflects an increase of 2.8% in the rate of murders (not 0.6% as presented officially).
South Africa’s murder rate is therefore about four and a half times higher than the global average of 6.9 murders per 100 000.
Attempted murder cases increased from 14 859 to 16 363, an increase of 10.1%
Attempted murder rates increased by 8,7% in the past year.
Sexual offence cases increased from 64 514 to 66 387, an increase of 2.9%.
Sexual offence rates increased from 125,1 per 100000 to 127,0 per 100000 population an increase of 1.5%.
The crimes above are not easy to reduce through policing alone.  This is because most (around 60% to 70%) of murders, attempted murders and rapes, occur between people who know each other and occur as a result of a mix of particular social and economic factors. These crimes are often referred to by the police as ‘inter-personal’ violent crimes.  Only between 15% and 20% of murders and attempted murders are the result of aggravated robbery while inter-group conflicts and vigilantism make up the rest.

There has also been an increase in robberies in 2012/13, which is a crime that the police can directly reduce through employing effective strategies. Robberies pose a particular concern as they occur when armed perpetrators directly threaten or use violence against their victims in order to steal their belongings. This can result in severe trauma, injury or sometimes death to the victim.  The total number of aggravated robberies reported to the police increased from 101 203 cases to 105 888 cases (an increase of 4 685 cases) or 4.6%.  The aggravated robbery rate increased by 196.2 per 100 000 people  to 202.6 per 100 000 people of which represents an increase of 3.2%.

Total aggravated robbery includes a number of sub-categories, most of which increased in the 2012/13 financial year:

Street or public robberies increased by 2 534 cases to a total of 60 262 incidents. This is 4.4% higher than the 57,728 incidents recorded the previous year. It means that every day on average there were 166 cases of street robbery in 2012/13.
House robberies are reported when people are attacked by armed gangs while they are in their homes. This crimes increased by 7.1% to 17 950 incidents representing an additional 1 184 households being attacked when compared to the previous year.  On average 49 households were attacked each day in 2012/13.
Business robberies increased by 2.7% to 16 377 incidents.  This crime type has consistently increased in the past eight years so it is 345% higher than in 2004/05. There were an additional 426 armed attacks on businesses in 2012/13 as compared to the previous year.
Vehicle hijacking increased by 5.4% to 9 990 incidents. This means that 28 motor vehicles were hijacked every day on average in 2012/13.This is of particular.http://africacheck.org/factsheets/factsheet-south-africas-official-crime-statistics-for-201213/

Patchesagain:
a long list of made-up facts and myths

Post citations or get out

is it tears I see there?
You mean you didn't see the citation or you just conveniently ignored it.


You claim southafrica is heaven to live in? You want source? You want citations? You're a slowpoke.



survey for the period 1998–2000 compiled by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime ranked South Africa second for assault and murder (by all means) per capita and first for rapes per capita in a data set of 60 countries.[1] Total crime per capita was 10th out of the 60 countries in the dataset.

The United Nations Interregional Crime and Justice Research Institute have also conducted research[2] on the victims of crime which shows the picture of South African crime as more typical of a developing country.

MurderEdit

Around 50 people are murdered in South Africa each day.[3] The murder rate has increased by an order of magnitude in South Africa during the last 40 years,[4] though it has fallen from 66.9 per 100,000 people in 1994–95 to 37.3 in 2008–09.[5] From 2003–2009, crime decreased significantly according to official police data.[6] Between 1994 and 2009, the murder rate reduced by 50% to 34 murders per 100,000 people. The annual crime statistics released in 2011 show a continuing downward trend, except for rape, which went up by 2.1%.[7] Business Against Crime attributed the reduction to improvements in the criminal justice system and policing.[7] There have been numerous press reports on the manipulation of crime statistics that have highlighted the existence of incentives not to record violent crime.[8] Nonetheless, murder statistics are considered accurate.[5]http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_South_Africa

You can chew on that for your Sunday snack. LOL

Patchesagain:
"Its true because i say it is"

If nigerians are such cunning buisnessmen, why then are the majority of the top 50 biggest companies in Africa South African?

you mean Anglo-dutch companies or seized properties by corrupt undemocratic ANC and forcibly handed to illiterate, inexperienced and docile savage southafricans.

Patchesagain:
A looong post trying to talk around one simple fact:

South African companies dominate the Nigerian economy

Nigeria is part of our hegemony, you are our Economic B1tch

well since the economic asylum of SA Anglo-dutch companies in Nigeria, Pretoria has been running errands for Abuja.
that would make you my political stooge/puppet.

don't forget the yellow fever vaccine and money laundry rift.