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jln115:
Battle of Kibati/Triple Towers
Battle of Kitchanga
Battle of Nyiabiondo/Lukweti
Battle of Beni
battle of Bangui

Those must be another way of describing the Xhosa/ Zulu war, and the Tswana/Bantu wars.
Or the apartheid war.

jln115:
the so called STATE the SANDF is in , is still light years head of what the Nigerian defence force will ever be, and the defence review will rectify any short comings the SANDF will/might face from recruitment to funding.

sorry,you don't have the experience to prove it. Your sandf merged by Mandela has not fought a single battle and won, let alone combating faceless terrorists.

Your defence ministry has admitted its own decay.
You really love to hear yourself talk.

jln115:
Emotional post backed up with 0 facts, btw if you say our government is struggling does that mean yours is just an out right failure?

it is in your genes not to take responsibility, my boy.

You also don't have the inner strength to own up or recognise truths.

I have given more than 3 sources on the state of what you call your SANDF just today alone.

Keep pretending, that's what your country is known for since '94

drnoel:
All these insults. Ur comment that even made my day is ur calling me in ur own words a "4king medical student" (shakes head). I don't know where u got such idea. I never told u I was a doctor neither did I tell u I was a medical student those where ur imaginations. I could start dishing insults back to u as u have been doing but I would prefer to be the mature one here and not do so. I just feel sorry 4 u but then I understand ur pain. Take it easy though and not stress urself much, hypertension is a killer. I tell my colleagues that clinical pelvimetry in dirty in my point of view. Then again my colleagues in nigeria, consultants in O&G have to do it now and then. So is the medical profession. Cheers.

you prefer to do MRI pelvimetry as opposed to your "colleagues" who do clinical pelvimetry. Your moniker is drnoel.


And yet you said you never told me you're a doctor.
Lol, what a clown!!!
You're a chameleon and an imposter then.

You feed on the anonymity and evasive structure of an internet forum to pour out your social maladjustment.

Just who are you, drnoel?

andrewza:
Compare the size of militaries to ours.

go away.

andrewza:
And. We still spend more per persons than Angola, Nigeria, Algeria, extra. So if we got troubled how bad are they doing.

Oh, SouthAfrica, a nation of petty, inconsequential liers!!!
Angola your southern African rival has 50% more military spending than south Africa.

Algeria is 3 times more than you.

The urge to leave this thread is rife but then, how do I
learn the perversity of folks from the other side!!!!
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/south-africa-military-maintenance-matters-010956/

andrewza:
Actually the boats used on the frigates can carry a MG151 20mm auto cannon, radar and other gear. I mean they the same size of a yanky boat. They all so getting upgraded with more sensors.

your own defense review confirmed you neither have trained and qualified personnel for your decayed equipments. And one of you slumy lier from a nation of pretence and identity crisis was talking about your mercenaries teaching Nigerian army how to handle sophisticated equipments.

Well it turned out your SANDF will need to fly in experts from Europe to help you clean up your military mess.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/south-africa-military-maintenance-matters-010956/

andrewza:
That same sub has had a complet overhaul and refit and is back at sea, in fact she was do exercises with saaf on Friday. Can Nigeria refit a submarine.


I for poor submrain use look at canda even Australia was struggling not long ago.

source for your submarines all operational please.

Patchesagain:
Where does it say that?

It says that 6 were delivered.

Thus six are in service.

Argument over.

hey, clerk boy!!!

Digest this......... That's not all.

The other submarine was rendered useless after they plugged in the AC into the DC: Maybe the naval technician who inserted the AC plug into SAS Manthatisi's DC socket, thereby blowing the R1.6 billion submarine's fuses, was absent-mindedly thinking about sex at the time, or about politics, or about music. http://www.iol.co.za/blogs/john-scott-1.2499/ac-dc-is-enough-to-make-anyone-blow-his-submarine-fuses-1.1001701#.VIWLDtKUfX8

Here's the story about the submarine being used as an ocean driller by another IQ 67 as a

The SAS Queen Modjadji, named after South Africa's rain queen who lived in Limpopo, struck the ocean floor while conducting training exercises between Port Elizabeth and Durban last week.

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational

The third high-tech submarine has been in dry-dock for years after "mishaps".

So, of the 3 submarines costing SA R8 BILLION, none are operational.

Welcome to the new SA!

jln115:
Jap the Underfunded SANDF budget is almost the same as the Nigerian defence force budget, only difference is that South Africa is at peace, and the defence review will almost double the defence budget

a southafrican can't tell truth to save his life on this forum.
I'll let your claims pass.
SANDF is in short of fighting personnel and equipment.
Southafrica died when Mandela came out of prison.
What we have is a naive and inexperienced tswana, Bantu and Zulu nation struggling to grasp the task of governing a nation.

drnoel:
Looks like u read ur text upside down. I said b4 and I say again, why would I have to do a clinical pelvimetry when I can do an MRI pelvimetry? I don't need to do the procedure so ur words are wasted on me. Pls tell that to colleagues that have to do clinical pelvimetry. Takia and cheers.

You are still mouth-farting!!!
Whether you do clinical pelvimetry or MRI pelvimetry is of no importance, safe your explanations for your lecturers or (consultant).

The point in my last post is you referred to the expectant mothers' private parts as "dirty things"

I'll wager my last naira you're a slumy medical student undergoing clinicals.

Take a crash course on ethics and comprehension.
You are morally challenged,
Intellectually hollow,
And educationally numb.

Lest I forget, when you climb off your mythical high horse, you will find your feet on reality where respect and civility should be your watchword.

Now away with you, killjoy!!!

drnoel:
Hahhahahhahahahhaaha, this is the funniest joke of the century. As i don't even care what u think I won't bother explaining to u why the name of the ID is what it is.

As regards to ur other misyearns, I will tell u this. Am sure u know where hell is cos u are already leaving there. Go to hell. it's not usually my way to insult people but u deserve to be beaten black blue by ur statements. Then again this is a public faceless forum so anything goes. Have fun at other people's expense if u will. Cheers.

Stop yelling, son.
You are butt-hurt.
And try not to burn in hell on earth; you're in such a rage.

As for explaining to me your intentions on your moniker, it would have been a wasted effort.
You owe your explanations to your prospective patients and clientele whom you have told in no uncertain term what your opinion about them is.

bloodred:
I'm a mother of two and have never been touched or fingered inappropriately. In fact, no doctor or midwife has ever inserted finger into my private part. But that's because my babies were born by c-section and I never needed such medical exams during ante-natal. That being said, no doctor will stop you from being present when examining your wife. So try and always be there if it helps you sleep better at night. My husband was even allowed into the theater during my surgeries so u could ask to be present during labour/c-section. I am a woman and the thought of any stranger inserting finger in my vagina disgusts me. I'm sure I would have endured it if I had vaginal deliveries but I'm glad I didn't and totally understand how @op feels.

At last, virtue and good sense have arrived. Thank you .

drnoel:
I wonder why I should feel insecure cos of clinical pelvimetry that I don't even have to do. Pls do tell me, why should I stoope low to do clinical pelvimetry when I can easily read the images of MRI pelvimetry. Youngman put ur money where ur purse is and use ur tongue to count ur teeth. Not all of us doctors are so crazy to put our fingers into dirty things but colleagues do it if it will be necessary in the management of given patients.

You are talking in circles and yet still looking for a standing point.

Monikers oftentimes don't reveal age but you seem to be the young man here(drnoel).

Your reference to patient's private parts as dirty things leaves you as someone who isn't morally fit to partake in this discussion and if you're indeed a doctor as you so desperately want everyone to know (from your moniker) then you are a disgrace to the profession.


I suggest you take time to revisit the Hippocratic oath instead of wasting your ill-used time on a public forum with a bogus, insecure moniker like drnoel.


You are a kid by all account and in the wrong calling.

You are also a bad example of cheap internet and forced education.

Regards
Leslie

jln115:
providing a blog as your source!!! cant say im surprised.
ANYWAY just to correct you, its was 200 paratroopers and recces vs 3000+ rebels, we defended our base,they surrendered and it was a political decision to bring back our soldiers.
www.iol.co.za/sundayindependent/how-deadly-car-battle-unfolded-1.1493841#.VOjo5XyUfIQ

hobohoho. Save the tears. It's a universal acceptable fact now.
I read about all the funding shortages & the lack of qualified

Crash

but...christ!

pilots

submarine!? You'd have to have some competence, it's not a bicycle!

Then again, what am I saying, I'm sure the submarine captain's were probably Afrikaners & got told to accept the zulu navigator or else.

Patchesagain:
and how does it compare to the badger?

Plus... you got the peasant module... not the actual top of class GROM module

If Zuma hasn't been diagnosed with dementia yet, then someone please take him to see a doctor soon!

This idiot actually had the audacity to say that the decision to combine seven existing forces to form the Sandf (South African Defence Force) at the end of Apartheid has now made South Africa’s military a force to be reckoned with on the African continent.

Hahahahahahaaaaaa. Hahahahahahaaaaaa........

Not sure what his Songoma has put in his smoking muti, but he either needs to lay off the crack pipe or go retire.

In reality, the current military in South Africa couldn't even fight off a few rebels in the Central Africa Republic in March last year, where 13 paratroopers were killed. They got their asses handed to them, and ran home with their tail between their legs.

And here's Zuma trying to re-write history - as good Communists do - and tell the world that the army today is better than it was under Apartheid.

Really?

Is that why you lot of chimps sat outside the SA border in your Qatro camp, raping and killing your fellow Blacks out of boredom? Is that why you had to resort to blowing up innocent people at train stations and in restaurants to cause panic, because you couldn't form an army even if we paid you?

We took down the Communist invasion in Angola with a few White boys and some clever generals. We had a couple of thousand against tens of thousands, and STILL you commie terrorists couldn't break into the country.

Bunch of amateur losers.

What we had was traitors within our own government selling out our country to a bunch of murdering communist Black terrorists. Period.

You won nothing Zuma, you intellectually challenged nincompoop.

And today, this buffoon named Zuma gives out medals because his big, brave military managed to run a funeral for the Dead Terrorist:

"The president also says the Sandf’s management of Madiba’s funeral and several memorial services has demonstrated its capacity to deal with major events."

Wow - what accomplishments! No need to win battles these days, just as long as the military can deal with "major" events like a few funerals and memorial services - you get medals for free!

What a pathetic joke this president is.

What an utter, utter embarrassment.
http://ozziesaffa..com/2014/12/south-africa-mandelas-military-force-to.html?m=1

postmann:
Speak for yourself! There are a lot of rotten perverts among you. Both home and abroad. Having a medical degree doesnt atomatically put you above lust even towards your patients.
Deceivers! I have a lot of doctor friends, and nothing excites them more than the female body.

hey.

politricks:
http://www.naij.com/389279-house-of-reps-move-to-ban-hiace-buses-over-bayelsa-auto-crash.html

brainless politicians who should be building and maintaining roads are looking for excape route via the old blame game.

Their blood are in your hands!!!

drnoel:
This ur comment oozes of little mentality from little minded person. I am sorry 4 u. So ur wife in Labor pains is not enof to make u think of saving her life and ur unborn child. I weep 4 men like u.

seems more like my comment makes you uncomfortable and brings your moral inclusiveness to the fore.

Your comment smacks of personal injuries and less of intellectual and ethical discus. It barely worth my keystrokes.

Dera25:
Please I need a matured advice, I have been having this argument with my fiancee and I want to confirm from the house especially ladies. She said that during antenatal there is a stage the doctor will start putingt his hand on the private part to examine the condition of the baby. But my problem with this is not only to confirm the authenticity of this story but I am feeling so disgusted on how a male doctor will be putting hands on someone's darling wife because of antenatal not even during child birth. No insult please

my man, your concerns are legitimate and many a real man ought to feel your concern.
Of course this is the 21st century and many feel the urge to come out as "enlightened" and socially sophisticated so you will read a lot of nonsense how it doesn't matter.

My opinion all along is a medical certificate is not a ethical or moral certificate.It is naturally REPULSUVE and UNSETTLING to have a male doctor or saviour putting his fingers in your wife's vagina.

Now all the males here pretending to be a psychological Superman, I dare you to oblige me just one request.

I ask that you be present in the theatre or examination room when the doctor insert his fingers and wander around inside your wife's vagina. Instinctively your eyes will travel to your wife's face to see if she is indifferent, or painful or lol, enjoying it.
And then it will travel to the doctor's facial expression too.
You will in a second wish you were a mind reader.

You are going to have a sense of your wife being violated.

You are going to feel "little"
And then if you still have a sound spirit, he is going to tell you it is wrong.

A man who doesn't feel this concern has lost his soul and dominant male genes in the whirlwind of the permissiveness of the 21st century.

Patchesagain:
First, no one is arguing about the Tavor. I never said those were specifically south africans, I was making an example of the role mercenaries play in training. If you cannot read, or have a low reading comprehension that is your problem not mine.

Second, multiple sources have confirmed South Africans are training Nigerians. You yourself say that mercenaries have been training your military for years - so why is it a shock that we are training you as well? Afterall, South Africans are the best mercenaries in the world.

most of your claims by literary efforts have successfully built a solid imagery of stupidity of your real person.

Even if it were to be established that southafrican mercenaries are in Nigeria, they are not the sandf, they are probably former Anglo-dutch apartheid mass, cold blooded slaughterers of your kind.

The purported "sophistication" of the mythical and political SA mercenary do not morph into the superiority of the sandf which has been decaying since 1994 till this day.

lonelydora:
Thank you bros.

you're welcome.

lonelydora:
Police CMR popularly called Police Clearance is not given in all states.

So we need police clearance to drive vehicles in this country?

Nigeria has always been a joke!!!
The police pro at police headquarters released a statement detailing the documents to be provided by motorist when asked. They include:
Driver's Licence
Insurance

And Vehicle Licence

Optional items : Tinted glass permit(for vehicles with tinted glass)

Proof of ownership (for unregistered vehicles)
Road worthiness (for commercial vehicles)

The ignorance of motorists feeds the greed and corruption of the police force.


Now, police report or clearance is for a missing or stolen item of any of aforementioned items.

DictatorZAR:
Unlike you I've never been poor nor have I lived in a slum or ghetto. I'm one of those who will gladly kill any of you flat head foreign parasites selling drugs you fcvhk face.

By the way last time I checked your country is known for eating Ewi/Yei, rat meat so let's not even go there I'll expose your nations eating habits you fool.

give it up, you sound barely educated.
Your moniker is a deep reflection of your dimwitted emotional and intellectual constitution.

And admit it, you are not only unemployed, you are glaringly unemployable. You even sound more Ghanaian than south Africa.

I usually spurn your type into the reject-dustbin.
You dirtbag!!!

ThaVluit:
Less talking to himself as usual. Question is why are Nigerian threads unable to go a day without mentioning South Africa? For as long as the name "South Africa" features, there will be South Africans happily visiting your threads. The thread has been colonised by SA - just like your markets have been.

your ability to deceive yourself and hide your pain in any situation is amazing.
Your folks are barely literate and civilised. you are still being viewed as a wild maladjusted animal by your Anglo-dutch masters.
And when your folks wake up to self realisation ,we will then teach you how to run a shop before dominating a Markey, Zulu mofo.

ThaVluit:
Less talking to himself as usual. Question is why are Nigerian threads unable to go a day without mentioning South Africa? For as long as the name "South Africa" features, there will be South Africans happily visiting your threads. The thread has been colonised by SA - just like your markets have been.

your ability to deceive yourself and hide your pain in any situation is amazing.
Your folks are barely literate and civilised. you are still being viewed as a wild maladjusted animal.

And when your folks wakes up to self realisation , we will then teach you how to run a shop before dominating a Markey, Zulu modo.

DictatorZAR:
Shut da fcvxk up this is what your area boys do daily in the worlds capital of open defication

Now thank you for leading and showing us the way you Mokoko slum dweller diesel fuel rat.

hmm, a slumy, swamp rat like you must be feeding your ghetto brains from the cheap drugs Nigerians are stuffing on you.

Uncouth savage and and a 21st century modern puppet shouldn't speak where facts and intellect dwell.

Infact rapist!!!

EVarn:
everyone is on hibernation mode,until they find a topic worth the wasting data to comment.
if you persist with your antagonistic fact-twisting attitude,i fear everyone will simply come here to read amusing comments.
cheers!.

who else have gone? And what are you still doing here?
Trying to repair your life on a Nigerian forum?
The question is why are southafricans Nigeria-magnet? Why are they the only ones still on the thread?

Patchesagain:
Stop wasting our time

Come with facts and citations

Until then, you arent worthy of my keystrokes

And Nigeria is worthy of nothing more than our pity and charity

Finally, this is a military thread. Post on topic or go start your own thread.

south africa is nigeria's burden. after showing the world that you can't even maintain existng infrastructure or economic policies put in place by your dutch masters. the world scuffs at you and rekindle the myth of the black race.

nigeria is reversng that myth while you are busy.squatting on her blog wasting your life way.

a military thread you say? did you just realise ?

patches689:
I have allready debunked all of your claims - with fact

I have shown, with citations, that south africa us superior by every criterion a nation is judged on.

South africans are better educated, live longer, happier, enjoy more freedom, most have access to electricty and modern sanitation, better acess to medical care, we have better rule of law, a stronger democracy, a better economy, more revenue, we are decades ahead in terms of infastructure, we are african leaders in finance, we are members of BRICS - the list goes on and on.

Most importantly - it is 55X better to live in South Africa than Nigeria

Furthermore, Nigeria is the 16th most failed state in the world.

You can continue to wildly thrash out long posts in a jealous rage, you can continue to make wild baseless allegations and build ad hominem after ad hominem, you can apply all the logical fallacies you want, it matters not - it is water off a ducks back

This debate has been over for a long time, you are simply too obtuse to realize it

Now, this is a military thread - we entertained you breifly, debunked your myths and vanquished your arguments. Debate has returned to military matters, post on-topic or start your own thread.

relax, me boy!!!
Nigeria has relieved south Africa of that burden. You don't have to worry about that.

This has been confirmed by Koffi Annan, the former United Nation Secretary General who is neither a south African or a Nigerian.

Nigeria remains the corner stone of Africa.
Nigeria is the destiny of the African continent.
Those were his words.

Nigeria has overtaken southafrica as the new investment hub.

And if you mention anything about economy again, I'll come biitch-slap your Soweto face. Southafrica's economy is a sad story. This isn't even news.

Your company and infrastructures are being ran to the ground by ANC administration and policy.

Infact whites are closing shops and selling off their firms because of your kind....FACT!!!

Lazy bantus, everybody knows you people are very lazy, lacking in entrepreneurial skills.
You blame your failings on your whitmasters.

But Nigeria has forged and moved ahead.

Lastly, I hope you are man enough to own up to the fact that every single thing in southafrica is seen all over the world as done by white Anglo-dutch .

That's why we are your masters. We work it out and we are the only black country that has shown the world what blacks can do alone.

You owe us respect, you nitwit.

Patchesagain:
I have absolutely thrased lezz when I had the time to spare with his frivolities, citation after citation debunked his asinine statements

With regards to your "economy"

Its big but ineffective - poorly taxed, unstable and based on highly volatile oil

We remain the top destination for foreign investment (infact, we are 16th in the world)

Furthermore, with regards to your over-reliance on oil is it not true that your government just had to devalue the Naira and cut budgets? Did you not just raise interest rates to a record 13%? Has your Excess Crude Account not depleted to $3-billion from $21-billion in 2008?

Of over 53 African countries in Africa, why is it only southafrica hanging on desperately to this thread?

We have had other African countries come, say their bit and left. But southafrica remain on nairalalnd, trying to force us to accept they are better. They want to have the last word, they want to show us outdated and twisted sources to make us believe they are better.

So what makes southafrica this tactless, desperate, lacking in dignity and pride?


It is because Nigeria is their superior indeed and in imagination. It's because their low self esteem bells ring off anywhere Nigeria is mentioned. This is peculiar to black southafricans who makes up more than 75% of the population.

Southafrica was all fine and beautiful when Anglo-dutch ruled and structured the country for over 300 years as an extention of Europe;home away from home, then the forebears of patchesagain were only fit to cut gardens or mend shoes. The highest aspiration then was to become the head butler.

Then came 1994 and the caves and jungles were thrown open and patchesagain and co burst forth into civilisation and inherited everything their masters built. South Africa was given the name rainbow nation.

20 years later, there's nothing to show for it. Every infrastructure in southafrica is under going decay under black south African government. School and education system is dead, hospitals are rotting away, the economy is under strangulation; it barely grows.

Up above is a country where the colonial masters didn't even built substantial road. Any road or train track they built were to ferry away our resources. Mean while the first dutch settlers that arrived southafrica built ship yards and ships to European specification because it was meant to be their home.

In Nigeria, no shipyards were built, they brought in ship to carry our resources and taxed our men and women highly. After 1960 we asked them to leave and embarked on self rule. We were about 40 million Nigerians then but we marched on.


We went through the sun, we came out unweathered, we walked through the desert and were unscortched. We endoured tribal wars, insecurity and terrorism but we came out undone.

And after just 55years we have put Africa on the global map by being the only African country to have a $.5 trillion economy, by far the biggest on the continent.

We have the highest concentration of millionaires and billionaires on the continent.

We have Africa's biggest movie industry.

Africa's biggest entertainment industry
Our artists have taken over all of Africa and are house hold names in many African countries.

We are still the first African country to launch her own sattalite into the orbit(in collab with Chi

We still are the first country in the world to pioneer the fully digitalised personal/ security ID.

We have %75 percent of the economy and services of Africa.

We have Africa's richest woman
Africa's richest blogger. Just at 55 years.


In contrast southafrica has been developing for 300 years by Europeans for Europeans.
Today they are decaying, highest in HIV world wide.

Highest in murder world wide
Highest in rape world wide.
40% unemployment. And infant rápę, yeah they really only started seeing the light by 1994.
Economy is in taters. Our boys have taken over their streets and girls.

We as a nation have taken over Africa.

Nigerians, this is why they are here and won't go away. This is their battle. They really have to win it.

MikeCZAR:
From Anglo-Boer and Mfecane wars to WW1, WW2, Korea, Angola, Lesotho, CAR and now the DRC.

you mean as a European extension.
DRC was pure debacle. But then you were under tanzania