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EVarn:
Battles Of The Nigerian Army
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfluN8JW6O4

southafrica has never gone to war.

mzilakazi:
The Nigerian President Badluck Jonathan has given up on his troops and now calls for US troops to fight Boko haram. No matter how hard a man can play, Boko Haram will force you to scream out for help from neighbours even to houses which are miles away from yours.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/nigerian-president-wants-u-s-troops-to-fight-boko-haram-1423850893

the sooner you tell us your problem, the faster you get help.

jdbrasco:
wat kind of round table talk ? The northern elite will not even allow d implementation of national confab. So, how do we proceed from here?

that's because tthe north believes they still enjoy the political hegemony.
the political landscape is changng rapidly. few years ago a confab won't be possible in nigeria .

jdbrasco:
So watz ur problem if its land locked. Will it be d only land lock country in d world. For ur info, there are land locked countries in Africa that are doing well; Bostwana and Rwanda comes to mind. And why are u speaking for d so called minorities as u termed it. U are fighting GEJ cos he is frm d minority .Do u think dey are wit d nigeria arrangement? If Nigeria is not restructured into a true federating units, regions will agitate for self rule period. I'm jst wondering y is a problem to u. Is d whole world a country?

secession won't solve biafran problem or nigeria's problems. I am an advocate of true federalism. That'S what nigeria needs.

if biafra goes the minorities might not want to remain with nigeria but i am certain they won't join biafra.

it should be a round table talk

goshen26:
Chai!!! lol
very soon we will send u packing from regions u have used ur 419 sense to acquire wealth. u will soon go back to ur father compound where ur mum + ur dad + u+ ur siblings are 14 in number. No wonder u don't stop sending ur family to city (Lagos of cos to learn trade). let Nigeria break n see who will suffer. Mind u, niger-delta is not part of ndigbo, cos u guys are eyeing fuel abi.

u better pray for Nigeria not split.

Ibos are the most populous indigenous tribe in the Niger delta. The north of delta state a Ibos. Also is River state, with majority of its local government are Ibos.

Masterclass32:
U gotta cool down

It shouldn't be anyone's business if we decide to seek our seperate country.

you want secession fine but do not pull the minorities with you. Because Biafra is land locked with no clear boundaries.

EVarn:
wow!,you must have consulted sangomas to pull out this analysis once again.even your most vaunted source,the world bank,has made a projection that nigeria will be in top 10 economies by 2050,with south africa nowhere to be found.we are growing our infrastructure and middle class at a surging rate....remember,china is the number 1 economic power on earth,yet it is the country with the highest number of poor people in the world.like lezz said,you are a renown wizard.how do you do,oh great sangomas?!

even if you put truth in front of his eyes, he pretends not to see. Mzilakazu the rock headed junkie wizard.

DieVluit:
And where will the standards of living and infrastructure be?

Simple question.

Where will your population be?

Simple question.

http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/jun/13/nigeria-larger-population-us-2050

By the way, Evarn, we know that you are Lezz. Stop talking to yourself or about yourself.

I take it as an honour likening Evarn to Me. But I really don't care for your opinion or beliefs.

Point to note is that today Nigeria is no 1 in Africa and tomorrow still holds true of that position.

Sweden and other Scandinavian countries have a higher standard of living than the mighty US but you and I know you do not compare them.

So let south Africa use Sweden as her model and we shall use US and China as ours . In a few years time we shall compare who is more powerful and prosperous.

DieVluit:
Just one picture bra.

And then just one quote:

The current capacity is 4,500 megawatts.
“The cost of providing electricity per megawatt on average is $2billion. To get to where South Africa is, you will need about $3.2trillion (about N672trillion). Where will you find that kind of money?” he asked.



And your GDP is already pegged at higher that South Africa's, but you don't have enough money to get where we are.

electricity in Nigeria has now been privatised like telecommunications.

But do we need electricity to beat south afrika? Nope. We don't.

mzilakazi:
Dream on, I hope God answers your prayers. BRICS will still stand firm above MINT even in the year 3000.

Your views are merely advanced by the right groups who are merely scared of the leftist growing power which seems to thrive despite all the challenges. Their only hope is now only on MINT to challenge BRICS and neutralise them from deleting G8 out of the league of being seen as important. Their fear is China.

there are far better ways at trolling.

DieVluit:
How is responding to a post "derailment"?

And please point out the word "overpopulation" in my post.

And then when you are done, enjoy the following:

- "And how could there ever be enough to eat if everyone had twenty young" _Hyoi, Out of the Silent Planet.

That, my friend, is the story of Nigeria and its GDP.

Tell me if you want a picture of your population growth curve posted.

And I ask again - do you think Sweden sits crying about the list?

"massive population" ? That's looks like population problem to me and none of the aforementioned countries have population problem.

Why do you keep talking about population curve? Are you shying to use the word over populated?

By all projections, the future is bright and the Nigerian band is banging .....lol.

Talking about Sweden, I think she would have been a power broker in Europe and the world if she had the right population. Now she'll be only relevant under the "collective" power of the EU which is steered by Germany who "coincidentally" has roughly the same standard with Sweden but enjoys higher population; 80 million roughly with Mexico you touted.

Let's face it, the West never thought globalization would resort to 3rd world countries with huge markets (population)becoming economic and industrial empires.

It has become the fate of
China
India
Brazil
Indonesia
Nigeria
Turkey
Mexico
Russia.

That's why today's billionaires and millionaires are emerging from these countries.
And apart from the economical gains, there's is global political power play.

Hehe, Come the time for a permanent UN security seat..... I laugh in a junkie frenzy of Bantu accent.

DieVluit:
LOL what do the "projections" say about INFRASTRUCTURE and standards of living in Nigeria?

Do you think Sweden sits crying about the list? All countries ever needs are enough money for their lot. That's the only objective of economic activity. And have enough Nigeria does not and will not. Do you wish to see your population growth projections? Probably not.

Mexico, Pakistan, Nigeria - all countries in the same boat. Massive populations and low standards. Mass exodus to other countries as well. Top contributors of immigrants.

lol, derailment upon derailment, little countries like Sweden don't count.
What's her population again? Should be under 10 million i guess.

Matter of fact if not for EU, Russia would have annexed little countries like Sweden, Finland and co.

Anyways, Mexico is about 80 million, Indonesia 2hundred and something?, Nigeria 180, where on earth is that over population?

Your country by all projections is irrelivantly redundant economically and she will fade into oblivion in the near future. High time your presido came to the synagogue.

He shouldn't forget to bring Julius Malema and co even though he belongs to another party now.

iterator24:
I thought this n-gga has died you're still twisting facts eh?

in today's news
[img]http://2.bp..com/-xgTnu2wBBL4/VN0ZxsGSuTI/AAAAAAAEgNA/HNcA7HtERnw/s280/3.jpg[/img]

He is Mzilakazi the Wizard.

mzilakazi:
2014 passed and nothing has changed other than the shrinking number of Nigerian millionaires. They have failed.

Just because a certain person from London said so, then it makes you to jump into conclusion. I still emphasise my statement that there is no such thing as MINT other than is an acronym which refers to Mexico, Indonesia, Nigeria and Turkey. My friend, despite one erratic findings by one institution that you mentioned, BRICS is an association which will rule the world in future. It had just established its own bank which will compete with the world bank. The bank which will bail out many developing countries from the debt incurred from the WB. China will soon become the world economic super power, in fact it has already surpassed America.

China surpassed America?? I thought you guys said GDP doesn't matter. Lol. Chameleons.

China surpassed America just the way Nigeria surpassed south Africa!!!!

The source I quoted is an authority, an institution. Your opinion doesn't count. And all it's predictions have been fulfilled, Nigeria has more billionaires than southafrica, Nigeria has bleeped south Africa as the number one economic power house in Africa.

Have you noticed that when BRICs countries are listed , some times, southafrica is omitted . Thats because they just managed to make the list in 2010.

I have proven my point. You folks do not accept any fact. The institution thar coined BRIC also coined MINT. SO which is redundant today, it is BRIC, CHINA Alone can't help you.

Southafricas economy is bairly growing, so is Brazil and Russia. MINT on the other hand is firing from all angles;Nigeria grows at 5.1%, Indonesia, Mexico and Turkey are surging economically. Phew!!!

We shouldnt be having this debate, I told you malemos that Nigeria has the highest numbers of billionaires and millionaires in Africa. Well I was being conservative, Nigeria is one of the fastest countries making millionaires in THE WHOLE WORLD.

Your denial doesn't change facts neither does it alter the status quo. They are just empty bickering from an empty soul.

mzilakazi:
Man, your brain is now in terrible disarray. Read what I wrote and you will see that there is no where I have ever said anything about the person who coined MINT. All I said was, MINT is dead, that's all and hence, it only remains to be an abstract acronym that only exist in mind rather than in reality.

let me allow analysts from London to murder you on my behalf. i present for your reading horror and my pleasure....read, then take a pap break because I'm sure to hear your irregular heart beat accross this platform. enjoy ;


The 2014 Millionaire Race: Goodbye BRICs, Hello MINTs
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In 2014, the MINT countries (Mexico, Indonesia, Nigeria, Turkey), will surpass the BRICSs (Brazil, Russia, India, China) in the world race for millionaires, according to a new study by SPEAR’s magazine and WealthInsight, a London-based research service.

The MINT countries as a whole will perform better than both the BRICs and the G8 (Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, UK and the U.S.), according to the study. In the list of countries set to create the most millionaires this year, the MINTs are posed to rank within the top eight, WealthInsight said. Led by Indonesia, which is expected to see a 22% increase in the number of millionaires this year, the list is followed by Nigeria with a 10% increase, Turkey with a 8.5% increase and Mexico with a 7% increase. Both acronyms –BRICs and MINTs– were coined by British economist Jim O’Neill, an ex-Goldman Sachs employee.

soon pretoria will be running errands for Abuja and you will be my personal ADC. welcome to the new hegemony!!!!

oh, i forgot to leave you the source;http://www.forbes.com/sites/doliaestevez/2014/01/27/the-2014-millionaire-race-goodbye-brics-hello-mints/

EVarn:
on point.

so so, man. You can bank on the fact that these Mandela boys are masquerading military debate for personal scores. They hang on to the thread as if they are the only country in Africa who doesnt agree with the fact that we are the strongest.

Others have come and gone. But southie remain, shouting, bickering, bellowing and screaming.

Is it because we stole their young women?
Or were generous enough to indulge the penchant of their young men in drugs?

Or we run some considerable part of their informal and formal economies?

Only Mandela boys know the answer.

[quote author=mzilakazi post=30546155]MINT is just only an abstract idea that exist only in dream land. In reality is dead.

SA is an official member of BRICS. The force that will soon rule the world. SA already paid billions of dollars to BRICS for the establishment of their own independent bank.[/quote MINT is an acronym referring to the economies of Mexico, Indonesia, Nigeria, and Turkey.[1][2] The term was originally coined by Fidelity Investments, a Boston-based asset management firm,[2] and was popularized by Jim O'Neill of Goldman Sachs, who had created the term BRIC.[3][4] The term is primarily used in the economic and financial spheres as well as in academia. Its usage has grown specially in the investment sector, where it is used to refer to the bonds issued by these governments. These four countries are also part of the "

As you can see, Jim O'Neill who created BRIC also is a forerunner of MINT. You southafricans are of the devil himself. You are uninformed liers and emotional biiitches without any pride or dignity.

Southafrica was even the last member of BRICS as it was formerly BRIC. Southafrica was included in 2010 to make it BRICS .

There's no more thrill or fun debating with rock headed , malicious and ignorant trolls whose only purpose here is to even their old grudges.

[quote author=mzilakazi post=30546155]MINT is just only an abstract idea that exist only in dream land. In reality is dead.

SA is an official member of BRICS. The force that will soon rule the world. SA already paid billions of dollars to BRICS for the establishment of their own independent bank.[/quote MINT is an acronym referring to the economies of Mexico, Indonesia, Nigeria, and Turkey.[1][2] The term was originally coined by Fidelity Investments, a Boston-based asset management firm,[2] and was popularized by Jim O'Neill of Goldman Sachs, who had created the term BRIC.[3][4] The term is primarily used in the economic and financial spheres as well as in academia. Its usage has grown specially in the investment sector, where it is used to refer to the bonds issued by these governments. These four countries are also part of the "

As you can see, Jim O'Neill who created BRIC also is a forerunner of MINT. You southafricans are of the devil himself. You are uninformed liers and emotional biiitches without any pride or dignity.

Southafrica was even the last member of BRICS as it was formerly BRIC. Southafrica was included in 2010 to make it BRICS .

There's no moree thrill or fun debating with rock headed

MduZA:
Terrorists and soldiers,where is colonel augububu?,hopefully he is not abducted by boko haram bandits,actually I miss his lies and propaganda,these two fools less and evarn should be removed from this thread for the continuation of strictly military matters...so that people like me can only do the reading,can I get the witness?

you mean Evarn and I are giving you the sweats.

Now you want to do the reading? Thought you claimed there's nothing to learn here. You simply can't get enough of us. You are a Nigeria magnet: you'll always come wherever Nigeria is mentioned.

I met this thread derailed and it's my pleasure to swing with the pendulum wherever.

MduZA:
nothing positive to learn from a Nigerian..
am not hear to learn anything as there is nothing to learn...am not hear to win an argument as there is no argument to win..
I still maintain what I told you that if you people were discussing domestic issues without making mockery (insults)of other countries,there would have been no foreigners bothering you on this forum..
....use your intelligence and education to build your country and forget about what's happening in other countries...

yours truly
Mduduzi

we don't have foreigners bothering us. I am sure you meant e-stalkers.
That explains why only southafricans are still here tryin to prove a point that doesn't exist.

snydergp:
You should really start shutting the f.cvk up. More and more you expose your ignorance on a grand scale.

Firstly the average Nigerian are5times poorer then the average township dweller in SA, now do you call that resilience.

Secondly you call your f..uckt.ards resilient yet you are the Africa's most disease ridden nation, including the fact that 10.% of your countryman who lives outside your sh....it hole are either yahoo boys, drug dealers or languishing in foreign jails. Do you call this resilience or cowardice DNA embedded in your genes.

Your Igbo Kingdom today is reflected by your lawless North, to the point where your small neighbors are aiding your coward FG to secure your diesel fume behind from total chaos.

So much for the giants of hot air.

I got you stirred up , didn't I ?
Your post makes no sense. Try responding with your head and nt your mind, biiitch.

Secondly, I've been having this feeling that the ibo tribe of Nigeria are the people known to Mandela boys. Ibos are just one of the over 250 eithnic groups that comprise Nigeria. But I do understand now that they are the ones who feed the druggy penchant of your savage malema and co. And turn your girls into drug pimps and couriers in our ever persuasive and seductive charms, such a wide contrast from the Zulu noise of savagery and uncouth temperament.

The average southafrican belongs to the last century compared to Nigerians. We own and run this country economically, socially and politically. Give me a list of southafrican billionaires and remove the Anglo-dutch. Just a list of black southafricans which makes up the average southafrican and I will give you the list of Nigerian billionaires.(do not source for top 10 riches individual in Africa).

For disease, if 20 percent of your population are HIV carriers then we aren't even debating this.

The Nigerian army just entered sambisa forest today again, not the mntf.
The only war southafrica has fought unaided and alone is the apartheid war when you guys were slaughterd like filthy dogs and chopped down like unproductive trees

Sadly after apartheid, those "sweet" weapons were left to rot....*****sniffs, then sobs*******
LOL

MduZA:
...i have noticed that Nigerians on this forum know much about what is happening in SA than in their own country ...

another implicit admission that what we Nigerians have been saying here are facts. thanks for that.

and you also just admitted you know nothing about military, that's a tactile admission of a self confessed troll. you ought not to be here.

you are on an ego trip, and no one ,not even your skewed up "facts" bother us.

the resilience of the average Nigerian is a DNA missing in the average Soweto boys( and I'm not saying it's your fault) and its the fault of apartheid . that's the attitude of your black ANC government, it's the attitude of julius Malema( take all white land and properties without compensation). it is the reflection of you boys on nairaland from Zulu kingdom.
You never take responsibility either on a national level or in your individual lives.

But me thinks conformity should be your watchword. you guys are still looking at the world with an inverted telescope.

you are taking big bites you couldn't chew or have the skills to process.

swallow your pride and learn. that should be the motive of your journey into nairaland.

Regards
Leslie

MduZA:
gaz'lam we are just entertaining these jungle people just for sweet...

you mean trying to make meaning out of your oblique existence.
common, it's a do-or-die for you Mandela boys. you will keep on spewing poo just to have the last word either on real military debate or childish bickering just to have a moment of a elusive success over Nigeria.
your desperation and raw hatred is as obvious as your lack of objective input.
we are Nigerians , western African specie and we are built to last and carry on. unlike you blame-trading wild animals thrust into the harsh reality of a modern world which you know nothing about.
Rookie irritants.

MduZA:
Nigerian doctors working in SA are employed so that they can only treat their fellow country people who are bringing all sorts of strange sicknesses into SA...

like HIV and homicide related and gin related injuries and deaths....those are the exclusive preserve of savage bantus and zulus

Bokoharam just kidnappe about 14 teenage girls in Cameroon. think these guys are beginning to understand that fighting terrorists dressed in and mingling with civilians isn't a cup of tea.

mzilakazi:
Nobody ever said SA is a developed country even though some other sources regard it as developed. SA is an NIC, meaning it has both features of developed and developing countries, thus it will be inaccurate to class SA as a third world and likewise it will be inaccurate to rate it as developed. However, the right terminology to use is "newly industrialised country" the status which many experts suggest that SA is just behind the door to be fully recognised as developed country. By the time the $400 billion invested to develop SA tinfrastructure is depleted, SA would have fully reached that status with modernised infrastructure.

hmmm.

MduZA:
you paint the picture of your country on South africa....shoprite bread is enhancing your fake enthusiasm

lol, you can do your own research. over here, shoprite is for those who wants to buy cheap stuffs.

mzilakazi:
Every country has social ills, developed or undeveloped apart from the fact that in developed countries they are far better.

No country in Africa can ever match SA with the kind of infrastructure that they have. Large majority of SA have access to clean running water on their properties. We don't use boreholes like in the case of Nigeria, only in remote areas, somewhere in the villages where I don't know. Large majority of our people walk on tarred roads and use sewage in their townships across the country. The government built us free houses, something you can never have in Nigeria. We have excellent health care facilities, advanced industry and economy. So that qualifies us as NIC.

all my sources says the opposite. my sources are all domiciled in southafrica. the word NIC is still a slogan that hasnt gained general acceptance. Brazil, India, Southafrica are not 1st world end of story

mzilakazi:
I am so sorry I can't heal your mental sickness. In all measures as it could be proven with sources and even currently taught at various local and international universities. SA is no longer a third world country and is now officially NIC, the country between third and first world country, dummy. As a matter of facts , Nigeria can only dream to have the kind of infrastructure that SA has. Fact!!! BAM!!!

lol, you should be debating with your compatriots and web links of southafrican origin whose views are a sharp contrast to yours.

do not vent your frustrated hopes on me. 40% unemployment, 20% HIV/AIDS infection rate, large numbers without portable water and access to education. 85 murders in a day. multiply that with 365 lol.

I should arrest you for forgery and misrepresentation of facts. kleinfontein and Orania developed maybe , but your southafrica is backwater zoo of illiterate, savage scums of no inhibitions.

Patchesagain:
First BRICS comprises South Africa, Brazil, Russia and China... not indonesia... you dont even know the member states and you want to lecture us about them?

They were chosen as they dominate their regions economically and politically

We are a permanent member, and we were chosen over Nigeria because we have a more advanced economy more global clout and respect

BRICS, could you please tell me which country the "l",in BRICS stands for? you're walking-dead, boy. it is India. so you don't know SHIT. And did you say political respect? Southafrica gaffed in Ivorycoast when they supported a sitting president who lost an election and refused stepping down. believe me, southafrica was like a mad man dancing naked in a public square.

in the Libya crisis, ghadaffi had to go. The world said "ay" southafrica rookie politicians from ANC were shouting no like aliens from another planet.
Nigeria was the first African country that supported the opposition in Libya officially. we ordered ecowas to unsit the sitting Ivorian president.

what I deduce is that southafrica like an individual is suffering from inferiority complex, identity crisis and lack of focus. she doesn't know where to function. and it is a sad reflection of the personalities of you southies in nairaland.

I believe strongly that having been oppressed, beaten down and threaded upon like animals for all of eternity and having started seeing the free world just by 1994, you find the world too big and complex to grasp.

and like the unhinged savages you are, you attempt to take the world in a single go without learning the ropes.

Economically we are your superiors. quote me HDI or per capital income. it is your song of lamentation.

when is your pap time, you maladjusted, nairaland squatter from Zulu?

Patchesagain:
I love how wrong he is and how much he believes he is right

A long rambling post from an emotional little man in an irrelevant country

you're still suffereing from the after effect of post traumatic apartheid suppression. as a bush Bantu boy, your virtual world(nairaland) is where you hope to live the life you never could have in an unequal society like southafrica. where your lots are modern 21st century slaves.

southafrica is amongst the 5 most unequal country in the world. man if I were you, I wouldn't like a Nigerian, Ghanaian, or Kenyan.

perpetual sulking Zulu baboon.

mzilakazi:
Bwahaha… So, is SA the biggest economy in their region, that is Southern Africa, same as you suggested about India. Chief, the BRICS criteria for membership is not that drunkenness you are busy spitting about the biggest GDP. It was merely about industrialisation which Nigeria does not have.


Man your brain is crushed. SA is officially an NIC and was even promoted to that position long before Russia. D.U.M.M.Y!! We are not in the same league of development with Nigeria and we are officially no longer third world nation. We are having three years experience as an NIC, position which Nigeria will only attain after hundred years when we will be fully developed nation.



http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newly_industrialized_country

south Africa is a third world country. as a matter of fact she is a living example of a third world country. all the indices pointing to under development is typical of southafrica eg, corruption, crime, sickness, poor data reliability, poor infrastructure. etc

now please do not assume I am unaware of some groups who used the word " industrialized" very loosely and in an inclusive term.

this group are just a lonely, irrelevant school of thought who aren't comfortable with the status quo. And they often seek the promotion and inclusion of pro gay countries through PR and unwarranted inclusions.There's no industry in southafrica that can't be found on some developing countries, neither is your standard of living or government efficiency out of the murky waters of a third world countries.


let us pardon China and Russia a little. any group that calls Brazil, India and southafrica developed, first world countries, is making a wishful proposition.
That group is merely seeking to create anew school of thought and a proposition of what wishful dreams and thinking should be.

below is an excerpt from the lips of a southafrican. althouth, it is still filled with self-praise and wishful thinking but enjoy the read : "Also the 40% unemployment, the 20% AIDS infection rate, the 62.18 deaths/1,000 live births infant mortality rate, the $10,700 (2003 est.) purchasing power parity (GDP per capita), although that isn't as bad as I thought it would be, say, compared to Afghanistan's $700 (2003 est.). (Statistics courtesy of the CIA World Factbook.)

South Africa is by far the most developed country in Africa, but it's still a third world country. It will be while we have people living without access to clean water, medical care or education. There's nothing shameful about being a third world country. We should celebrate our successes even more so given that we are a third world country."

Believe me the above comment from your fellow compatriot is sweet music compared to independent sources and findings of 2013/2014.

all the sources, I shall quote and reference will be in 2014. this will put you in your true light.
http://www.southafrica.com/forums/open-board/5815-why-southafrica-considered-third-world-country.html
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/06/south-africa-elections-20-years-democracy-apartheid

South Africa's competitive advantage in the developing world ... www.brandsouthafrica.com/.../1027-sout... Mobile-friendly - Jan 31, 2014 - ... important role developing countries, such as South Africa and Brazil, are playing in the 21st century.



if southafrica is a developed country in the true meaning of the world, then almost half the globe are industrialized, advanced first world countries.

but seeing the world for the first time in 1994, you wouldn't really know what's what.

you better ask somebody!!!