₦airaland Forum

Patchesagain:
lol, so despite the fact that I posted citations which prove that we arent number 1 in Crime, Aids or any other of your allegations, your retort is to say that we are because YOU say so?

You clearly have some form of mental issue

Now, post citations to substantiate your claims.

Or

STFU

Estimated HIV infection in Africa in 2007 shows high rates of infection in Southern Africa.
HIV/AIDS in South Africa is a prominent health concern; South Africa is believed to have more people with HIV/AIDS than any other country in the world.

The 2007 UNAIDS report estimated that 5,700,000 South Africans had HIV/AIDS, or just under 12% of South Africa's population of 48 million.[1] In the adult population the rate is 18.5%.[2] The number of infected is larger than in any other single country in the world. The other top five countries with the highest HIV/AIDS prevalence are all neighbours of South Africa.

In 2007, only 28% of people in South Africa with advanced HIV/AIDS were receiving anti-retroviral treatment (ART). In 2004, 2005 and 2006 the figures were 4%, 15% and 21% respectively.[3] By 2009, nearly 1 million or about 2% of all adult South Africans were receiving ART.[4]

In 2010, an estimated 280,000 South Africans died of HIV/AIDS. In the aughts, it is estimated that between 42% and 47% of all deaths among South Africans were HIV/AIDS deaths.[5] However, the Death Notification Forms Survey of 2010, which estimates a 93% completion rate, shows that out of a total of 543,856 deaths nationwide (Appendix C4), only 18,325 deaths were attributed to HIV/AIDS Diseases (B20-B24, Table 4.5). [6]

Although new infections among mature age groups in South Africa remain high, new infections among teenagers seem to be on the decline. HIV/AIDS prevalence figures in the 15–19 year age group for 2005, 2006 and 2007 were 16%, 14% and 13% respectively.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_South_Africa

[quote author=Patchesagain post=30507768]- 50 thousand murders in joburg yearly

15,000 in the whole of South Africa last year, and of those, half come from 13% of police districts (143 out of 1,127 police precincts)
https://africacheck.org/2013/09/19/where-murder-happens-in-sa/


So you were wrong there


- world rape capital

Not even in the top 10
http://www.wonderslist.com/10-countries-highest-rape-crime/


- No2 homicide rate in the world
Not even in the top 10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate


-HIV/AIDS capital
Try 4th
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate

- Life expectancy
Its the official stats you clown, the average life span of the average South African

- People living in bush huts
South Africa is the 4th most urbanized country in Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization_in_Africa#Postcolonial_period

- Soweto and toilets
74% of South Africans have access to "improved sanitation"
only 28% of Nigerians have access to such facilities
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.STA.ACSN

- How is South Africa better to live in?

Factually speaking, it is X55 better to live in. This is not open for debate.

- Nigerians better educated than Americans
First: citation please
Second: fact of the matter is that around 40% of the Nigerian population is completely illiterate.

Look, you can continue to post your emotionally charged posts and I can sit here all day and post fact after fact.

South Africa is superior to Nigeria in every conceivable measure.

Nigeria is an embarrassment to Africa and is the 17th most failed state in the world. [/quote brengunn Can you imagine, if whites took a small piece of SA for themselves how different it would be? No doubt, they would be deluged with immigration and soon after the same old excuses and howls of racism etc.

I’m not a segregationist but given the appalling levels of crime, aids and other disasters, I would probably be more willing to join an all white nation in SA.

David Ashton Orania. You will need to learn Afrikaans and show some sympathy for religion of the Dutch Reformed sort.


And southafrica is still the world top producer of HIV/aids.

You're a pathological, disgusting, little minded lier.
you feed your imaginations into google search field and quote sources of fraud.

Southafrica takes 1st position in aids and her southern neighbours are 2nd, 3rd, 4th positions respectively. Now google HIV/aids in subsahahra Africa and see south Africa shine.

You are number 1 in räpe in the world.

2nd in murder.

1st in violence and moronic savagery.

Ever wonder why your police cut down mine protesters like animals?

More excerpts coming form world forums. Stay glued.

MduZA:
if you were wise enough you would realize that for MTN to make such huge profits in Nigeria is an indication of exploitation,many Nigerians are complaining about that while people like you are blindly beating their chest about it...thanx 4 reminding me about your seized oil money,I can't believe you are boasting about money laundering,where is it?still in the hands of our authorities...from the look of things your country will never get it back,the apology only exists in your imagination...as long as you people are still sleeping,foreigners will come to your country and milk your pockets dry,Shoprite donates millions and millions of cash to our charity organizations very often,it goes as far as giving bursaries to our students from disadvantageous communities...charity begins at home...your leaders are always crying for Nigerian businesses which find it difficult to penetrate our markets,but south African businesses are easily penetrating yours,you will never create anything to match ours...can you tell me one thing that your 100% black nation is doing without the help of foreigners?you can't even protect yourselves from boko haram..all the developments in your country are done by foreigners...the only thing your education system taught you is to seek refuge in foreign lands...

Bob Willard Whites are always to blame in the eyes of black political agitators. Though Tutu (who preveiously called for a white tax) admits that South Africa is worse now under black rule both violence-wise and economically, Tutu still blames South Africa’s problems on the “legacy of apartheid” even though blacks have rules for twenty years now.

We see the same in America with Detroit being a perfect microcosm. When whites fled the wave of violence that came with the 1967 riot and black mayor Coleman Yound taking power in Detroit in the 70s, whites were blamed for the wave of crime and fledling economy that followed because whites left city and took their tax money with them. Recently when the state of Michigan wanted to appoint an emergency financial manager to help bailout Detroit, Detroit’s black leaders (and Jesse Jackson) agrgued that white intereference in Detroit was racist.

Literally, in both America and South Africa, whites are blamed for black poverty and crime when whites are in power and when whites are not in power. And whites are to blame when whites self-segregate, when blacks self-segregate, and when both are integratated.

Why doesn’t some politician have the stones to call these agitators on their obvious BS? Just tell them the truth —people create their communities. If there is more violence and poverty among certain communities it’s because that’s what those communities create for themselves. Apparently, in South Africa, in America, and in points between.

Katherine McChesney Why don’t blacks put two and two together and recognize that their corruption causes their downfall into poverty and violence. It’s amazing that they cannot see/refuse to see that every country, community, city, county, state run by blacks is destroyed by blacks. Blacks are a curse on humanity.

MBlanc46 “Why don’t blacks put two and two together…” I think you answered your own question.

Morris LeChat Maff be hard

The Worlds Scapegoat “Morris LeChat wrote –Maff be hard”

Sobe spelin

IanJMacDonald Maff be raciss.

Morris LeChat they try, but they come up with three, and five, and two and six

MduZA:
if you were wise enough you would realize that for MTN to make such huge profits in Nigeria is an indication of exploitation,many Nigerians are complaining about that while people like you are blindly beating their chest about it...thanx 4 reminding me about your seized oil money,I can't believe you are boasting about money laundering,where is it?still in the hands of our authorities...from the look of things your country will never get it back,the apology only exists in your imagination...as long as you people are still sleeping,foreigners will come to your country and milk your pockets dry,Shoprite donates millions and millions of cash to our charity organizations very often,it goes as far as giving bursaries to our students from disadvantageous communities...charity begins at home...your leaders are always crying for Nigerian businesses which find it difficult to penetrate our markets,but south African businesses are easily penetrating yours,you will never create anything to match ours...can you tell me one thing that your 100% black nation is doing without the help of foreigners?you can't even protect yourselves from boko haram..all the developments in your country are done by foreigners...the only thing your education system taught you is to seek refuge in foreign lands...

you really are a nairaland maggot. You have set up residence in nairaland you are out of touch with what goes on in your country.

Southafrica had since returned the money with a public apology!!!!,where on the globe are you from, dummy. As for mtn, may I remind you that Nigeria has over 130 million active gsm subscribers. You southafricans can't add up 2+2 together, moronic, illiterate savages.


Ok, I'm going to post a link at the end of this post. It's a world debate about the rot and decay of south Africa. You will read and be ashamed.

All my post of today will be excerpts from that forum where world citizens give their opinion about southafrica and how you have manage to become the failure of the entire black race http://www.amren.com/news/2013/04/troubled-south-africa-debates-impact-of-white-rule/#

[quote author=MduZA post=30526655]as much as you try hard to decorate your explanation,your country is a shithole that's why Nigerians are scattered all over the world...your country men are wandering around the streets of south Africa ,according to them life is better on our streets...we don't have Nigerian engineers here,unless you regard drug dealers as engineers...there are jobs reserved strictly for Nigerians e.g cellphone repairs,shoe repairs and hair cutting..these are exclusively for your country men and women living in SA...if I may ask you,which cellular network are you using?which television satellite are you using to watch English soccer?...after eating bread from shoprite,drinking imported tap water from SA that's all you can say about a country which is feeding your 200 million population..?now I understand why you people fail to tolerate one another,you are a nation of no appreciation...

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[quote author=MduZA post=30526655]as much as you try hard to decorate your explanation,your country is a shithole that's why Nigerians are scattered all over the world...your country men are wandering around the streets of south Africa ,according to them life is better on our streets...we don't have Nigerian engineers here,unless you regard drug dealers as engineers...there are jobs reserved strictly for Nigerians e.g cellphone repairs,shoe repairs and hair cutting..these are exclusively for your country men and women living in SA...if I may ask you,which cellular network are you using?which television satellite are you using to watch English soccer?...after eating bread from shoprite,drinking imported tap water from SA that's all you can say about a country which is feeding your 200 million population..?now I understand why you people fail to tolerate one another,you are a nation of no appreciation...

[/quote You are resident slum that's why you wouldn't know of thousands of Nigerian professionals scattered all over the advanced world, not to even mention backwater southafrica, the land of racial absurdity.

And of course, there are Nigerian drug lords turning young , docile and unproductive southafricans into junkies. Never forget that where there's demand , supply is inevitable. And of course, your young ladies are now drug pimps to Nigerians lords. That's how redundant and frustrated your people are.

For shoprite, it's an Anglo-dutch company that scurried to Nigeria to prevent lazy, scum- of -the-earth , sub-zero humans like you from becoming shareholders and running it to the ground.
Whites are selling off their firms and companies to prevent you from eating where you never, couldnt sow.

It's an accepted fact now that Zulu and tswana can't stand each other without tearing themselves apart. Infact, your Anglo-dutch masters justified apartheid because of tribal hostilities. Your history and political education is still kindergarten level.

All Anglo-dutch SA companies are at the mercy of Nigerian people just like western companies are dying to go to China, India to stay afloat.

I don't use anything south Africa, son, my satellite tv at home is ctl and at office is starcom. My data phone is glo(the one I employ to blast you) while my official line is airtel.

We feed SA companies, dullard and never the other way round. That was why wen we broke your security laws and your money laundry laws right in your backyard, and a diplomatic showdown was rift, my government threatened to send all SA companies out of Nigeria. And your government buckled and tendered an unreserved , public apology.

You're such a waste of humanity, a low-life sales boy with a mediocre disposition.

Western countries are queuing up to have a taste of our emerging and budding large market,southafrica should be thankful we allowed them in. But then again......we're holding you by the jugular.


Let's I forget, mtn Nigeria makes much money than mtn southafrica. As with dstv.

Do you know that shoprite is busy setting up shops in north eastern part of Nigeria where bokoharam is domicile? What's making them take that risk?
Answer: Lazy you.
A nairaland rat like you wouldn't know what's happening anywhere in the world. Wacko!!!.


And oh...murderd white farmers in southafrica is gradually rendering you hungry needing to import food and suppplies as blacks don't even have the elementary skills of farming. Hohoho, hehehehe.

[quote author=MduZA post=30526655]as much as you try hard to decorate your explanation,your country is a shithole that's why Nigerians are scattered all over the world...your country men are wandering around the streets of south Africa ,according to them life is better on our streets...we don't have Nigerian engineers here,unless you regard drug dealers as engineers...there are jobs reserved strictly for Nigerians e.g cellphone repairs,shoe repairs and hair cutting..these are exclusively for your country men and women living in SA...if I may ask you,which cellular network are you using?which television satellite are you using to watch English soccer?...after eating bread from shoprite,drinking imported tap water from SA that's all you can say about a country which is feeding your 200 million population..?now I understand why you people fail to tolerate one another,you are a nation of no appreciation...

[/quote You are resident slum that's why you wouldn't know of thousands of Nigerian professionals scattered all over the advanced world, not to even mention southafrica, the land of racial absurdity.

And of course, there are Nigerian drug lords turning young , docile and unproductive southafricans into junkies. Never forget that where there's demand , supply is inevitable. And of course, your young ladies are now drug pimps to Nigerians lords. That's how redundant and frustrated your people are.

For shoprite, it's an Anglo-dutch company that scurried to Nigeria to prevent lazy, scum- of -the-earth , sub-zero humans like you from becoming shareholders and running it to the ground.
Whites are selling off their firms and companies to prevent you from eating where you never, couldnt sow.

It's an accepted fact now that Zulu and tswana can't stand each other without tearing themselves apart. Infact, your Anglo-dutch masters justified apartheid because of tribal hostilities. Your history and political education is still kindergarten.

All Anglo-dutch sa companies are at the mercy of Nigerian people just like western companies are dying to go to chime, India to stay afloat.

I don't use anything south Africa, son, my satellite tv at home is ctl and at office is starcom. My data phone is glo(the one I employ to blast you) while my official line is airtel.

We feed sa companies, Dillard and never the other way round. That was why when we broke your security laws and your money laundry laws right in your backyard, and a diplomatic showdown was rift, my government threatened to send all sa company out of Nigeria. And your government buckled and tendered an unreserved , public apology.

You're such a waste of humanity, a low-life sales boy with a mediocre disposition.

Western countries are queuing up to have a taste of our emerging and budding large market,southafrica should be thankful we allowed them in. But then again......we're holding you by the jugular.


Let's I forget, mtn Nigeria makes much money than mtn southafrica. As with dstv.

Do you know that shoprite is busy setting up shops in north eastern part of Nigeria where bokoharam is domicile? What's making them take that risk?
Answer: Last you.

A nairaland rat like you wouldn't know what's happening anywhere in the world. Wacko!!!.

MduZA:
as much as you try hard to be relevant,all the things you are typing here exist only in your dreams....the fact that Nigerians are queuing for asylums daily in Pretoria delete all your rubbish you are spewing herein....

I wasn't expecting you to agree. You will keep on adding your tears and flooding up your problems.

You say Nigerians are queuing up for asylum in Pretoria? I say you are being economical with the truth. Nigerians are the most entrepreneurial and mobile citizens of Africa so naturally with your redundant and docile black population in southafrica, we simply take what's yours until you are human and civilised enough to control it.
You can call that holding your jobs in trust.



Now when I was a young boy , my aunt used to work for the Nigerian embassy in southafrica and she told my engineer auncle how jobs are available after the fall of apartheid but many blacks are unqualified and unemployable. My uncle applied right from his living room in Nigeria and had offers flying in .lol . It's a true life story.
I do not dwell on emotions. I dwell on the truth.

South Africa is a grave yard filled with frustrated, drug sniffing and blame-trading citizens who like the Israelite after the desert wilderness are yearning for the days of apartheid.

Patchesagain:
- 50 thousand murders in joburg yearly

15,000 in the whole of South Africa last year, and of those, half come from 13% of police districts (143 out of 1,127 police precincts)
https://africacheck.org/2013/09/19/where-murder-happens-in-sa/


So you were wrong there


- world rape capital

Not even in the top 10
http://www.wonderslist.com/10-countries-highest-rape-crime/


- No2 homicide rate in the world
Not even in the top 10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate


-HIV/AIDS capital
Try 4th
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate

- Life expectancy
Its the official stats you clown, the average life span of the average South African

- People living in bush huts
South Africa is the 4th most urbanized country in Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization_in_Africa#Postcolonial_period

- Soweto and toilets
74% of South Africans have access to "improved sanitation"
only 28% of Nigerians have access to such facilities
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.STA.ACSN

- How is South Africa better to live in?

Factually speaking, it is X55 better to live in. This is not open for debate.

- Nigerians better educated than Americans
First: citation please
Second: fact of the matter is that around 40% of the Nigerian population is completely illiterate.

Look, you can continue to post your emotionally charged posts and I can sit here all day and post fact after fact.

South Africa is superior to Nigeria in every conceivable measure.

Nigeria is an embarrassment to Africa and is the 17th most failed state in the world.

I do not usually quote sources or rush to google. I blast you with facts learnt from my wide and extensive reading. That's just one proof the superiority of our educational system over yours.

I shall oblige you just once with a source :
Although they make up a tiny portion of the U.S. population, a whopping 17 percent of all Nigerians in this country held master’s degrees while 4 percent had a doctorate, according to the 2006 American Community Survey conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau. In addition, 37 percent had bachelor’s degrees. http://www.chron.com/news/article/Data-show-Nigerians-the-most-educated-in-the-U-S-1600808.php.
Believe it or not the above facts is an except from a forum debating whether your southafrica is under curse. And the achievements of Nigeria at home and abroad was brought in as an evidence there is hope for Africa.

Now there shall be no more sources for you, nitwit slumy scum.

It is a known fact that over half of southafrican youths are school dropouts. 65 percent of your schools are without liberary.

After you were liberated by the rest of Africa in 1994 , you are still adapting to universal code of behaviour, education and urban civilization.

You are a thief when you quote me statistics of a few dutch settlement. The rest of southafrica are still years behind other Africans of western origin.

When apartheid was obliterated, west Africans filled up all job vacancies and teaching positions. You are still on the process of adopting to modern ways of living.


Now let me upload you into the 21st century, a town in southafrica is home to the 2nd biggest ghetto in the land of aliens, humans and spirits. Rats feed on human babies.

Over %68 of your puplic schools are without books and liberary. Majority of them have pit toilets.

Your xenophobic culture stems from your inability and low qualification to be employed in your own country and you unleaded terror on Zimbabweans, zambians, Nigerians, Ghanaians and other Africans who are more educated than you are.

All the cities built by the Anglo-dutch are under decay and rotting away bit by bit. You claim to generate so much power for electricity yet your cities are undergoing load shedding, hehehe.

Your companies are setting up shops in Nigeria and othet African countries to escape a harsh ANC government pplicie that empowers lazy, uneducated and drug sniffing soutgafricans to become shareholders and employees.

Spare me your stupid hogwash sources.

Southafrica is now the symble of the unfortunate stereotype that blacks always destroy and can't build.

Nigeria is helping to correct all these generalised stereotypes. Hang onto the moving train, Nigeria is taking you to the promised land where inferiority complex shall be addressed.

Patchesagain:
I just posted how all of that is hogwash

Let me do it again:

1. Business/entrepreneur
- 39 out of the 50 biggest companies in Africa are South African
- The biggest Nigerian company only comes in at the 34th spot on the table
http://www.theafricareport.com/top-500-companies-in-africa-2013.html


2. Military
-over 1700 pages on this forum say otherwise

3. Billionares
- You have 2
- We have 4

4. FDI
South Africa is the number 1 FDI destination in Africa, Nigeria is only 3rd
http://www.ey.com/GL/en/Newsroom/News-releases/News-foreign-direct-investment-in-sub-saharan-africa-on-the-rise

South Africa is the 13th most attractive destination in the world with actual inflows of $10 Billion per annum
http://www.bdlive.co.za/economy/2014/06/04/sa-jumps-two-places-on-fdi-index-but-more-is-needed

5. Remittance from abroad
People leaving your country is not a good sign - its a bad sign

But lets not stop there shall we?

Life Expectancy:
South African - 56 years
Nigeria - 52 years

Literacy rate:
South Africa -86%
Nigeria - 68%

Child mortality rate:
South Africa - 42.15
Nigeria - 72.97

Poverty Levels:
South Africa - 20.2%
Nigeria - 61%

Access to clean water
South Africa - 94%
Nigeria - 53%

Corruption Index ranking:
South Africa - 67th out of 175 countries
Nigeria - 136th out of 175 countries

Failed state rankings (the higher your score the better):
South Africa - 115th
Nigeria - 17th

Quality of life index (the higher the better):
South Africa - 110.92
Nigeria - 2.99
(Yes, its 55 times better to live in South Africa than it is to live in Nigeria)

Your country produces less than 3% of the power we do, despite your bigger economy your Government Revenues are 1/3 of ours, we are more free, more democratic.

Nigeria is not a black powerhouse, its a black outhouse, the sh1thole of Africa

It's almost impossible arguing with little minded bushmen from southafrica. Especially you. Your first source was dated in 2013. In 2013, Nigeria was not yet the economic power house of Africa.

We bleeped you out of the waters in April 2014.

50 thousand murders takes place in jobourg yearly.

Put that with the statistics of southafrica being the ràpe capital of the world. No.2 homicide rate in the world.
HIV/AIDS capital of the world. this has infiltrated your economic and military albeit social lives.

Where did your life expectancy stats come from?. You're selling off figures from few cities of Anglo-dutch settlements of kleifontein and atonia(spell check, please). The rest of southie settlement of the bush tribes of Zulu and tswana are built with grass huts that could not hold erect a standing adult.
Your "modernised" Soweto still has gaping toilets in the open where human wastes are left in the open and a few decent toilets are under lock and key.


Bush men from Zulu and Tswana řäpë infants in a devilish, satanic, pre historic belief that it cures HIV. Whites females are open targets of räpe and molest. How is SA better to live in?

Nigeria with boko Barak is still far better than your disillusional southafrica.

If you have a teenage daughter, if you are white, you are an open target of řäp. armed robbery, and murder. And the savage black tribes can't stand each other.


Nigerians are the most educated people in America today. They are more educated than the whites, Asians and African Americans. 17% has their PhD,

Today, the world watches as the bushmen from Zulu and tswana, your tribes- men, tear down every company, economy, infrastructure and orderliness the anglo-dutch has built, and thy say you are CURSED!!!
Today apartheid villain, e Klerk is seen as a hero in south Africa because your black ANC government is worse than the apartheid days.
And as Bishop Desmond Tutu said : WE NEVER HAD IT THIS BAD EVEN DURING THE APARTHEID DAYS.

Southafrica is a living embarrassment to every black man that walk the earth.

You are quoting sources and stats that reflects one southafrica, that does not exist in your world of experience.

That's why the world is waiting for Nigeria, the beacon of hope for every black man, including you.

Patchesagain:
I just posted how all of that is hogwash

Let me do it again:

1. Business/entrepreneur
- 39 out of the 50 biggest companies in Africa are South African
- The biggest Nigerian company only comes in at the 34th spot on the table
http://www.theafricareport.com/top-500-companies-in-africa-2013.html


2. Military
-over 1700 pages on this forum say otherwise

3. Billionares
- You have 2
- We have 4

4. FDI
South Africa is the number 1 FDI destination in Africa, Nigeria is only 3rd
http://www.ey.com/GL/en/Newsroom/News-releases/News-foreign-direct-investment-in-sub-saharan-africa-on-the-rise

South Africa is the 13th most attractive destination in the world with actual inflows of $10 Billion per annum
http://www.bdlive.co.za/economy/2014/06/04/sa-jumps-two-places-on-fdi-index-but-more-is-needed

5. Remittance from abroad
People leaving your country is not a good sign - its a bad sign

But lets not stop there shall we?

Life Expectancy:
South African - 56 years
Nigeria - 52 years

Literacy rate:
South Africa -86%
Nigeria - 68%

Child mortality rate:
South Africa - 42.15
Nigeria - 72.97

Poverty Levels:
South Africa - 20.2%
Nigeria - 61%

Access to clean water
South Africa - 94%
Nigeria - 53%

Corruption Index ranking:
South Africa - 67th out of 175 countries
Nigeria - 136th out of 175 countries

Failed state rankings (the higher your score the better):
South Africa - 115th
Nigeria - 17th

Quality of life index (the higher the better):
South Africa - 110.92
Nigeria - 2.99
(Yes, its 55 times better to live in South Africa than it is to live in Nigeria)

Your country produces less than 3% of the power we do, despite your bigger economy your Government Revenues are 1/3 of ours, we are more free, more democratic.

Nigeria is not a black powerhouse, its a black outhouse, the sh1thole of Africa

It's almost impos

Patchesagain:
How is South Africa number 2?

In which way?

you really love vain and exhaustive repetitions, don't you?
Go through the posts.

Patchesagain:
The only butthurt one here is you

My post is matter of fact and laced with citations

Your post is dripping with emotion and has an astounding zero citations

I have made my point, the facts are clear and unassailable - South Africa is superior in all tthe criteria you listed

Thanks for playing

you always play the victim card when you are cornered and out classed.

Your southafrica is no. 2 on continent. Stop squealing like a castrated pig and get used to it.


Stay on the sidelines and watch as events unfold. When power play is involved, southafrica can only be a ball boy in the field where Nigeria is playing.

mzilakazi:
China is overpopulated dummy, that's why it is a crime in China to have more than two children. They are encouraging their citizens to leave China by giving them subsidy to establish business across the world and live there forever.

Population is a disadvantage because it create a competition over same resources. It create health problems with regard to communicable diseases and generally is a curse. All the countries with big population are poor despite their huge GDP.

Very important, look at individuals and not the whole country. Look at how much a single citizen is worth in any country and you will know hs that country.

you are talking of over population which isn't the case with Nigeria. Competing over scares resources? We haven't even scratched the surface of our resources yet and talking about communicable diseases....do you mean like we dealt with Ebola.

Young man, what you are trying to say, what you can't really communicate is the disadvantages of great population. What about their advantages which outweighs their disadvantages.

When small nations talk about GDP per capital or HDI, I shake my head because it is like looking at the earth from one angle and saying it is f
Tiny countries like Denmark, Sweden, Finland can talk about HDI but powerful countries with great population like the US, great Britain,Germany, China, France, Brazil, India, China, Nigeria talk about GDP.

With the right population China has dethroned Japan in almost all respect of international power play.
Nigeria has the right population to make you irrelevant and your companies dependent.

When population meets resources and very energetic citizens, you have what Nigeria is currently doing to southafrica.

mzilakazi:
Correction, Nigeria is not a power house but a largest economy. That's very different. Nigeria does not have a single AU offices


Economists all agree that the biggest population is a disadvantage, thus a curse.

Economists? I am not one neither do I pretend to be one.
But I remember in my secondary school days, I was taught about under population, over population and optimal population back then.

China which is nearly 2 billion isn't yet over populated.

Is it a coincidence that the most populated countries in their respective continents are the biggest economies? I.e Brazil, the US, Germany, China, Nigeria.

Population is a threat to smaller countries like yours. Countries with huge population are almost economically self reliant as far as market, trading and economy is concern.

Your customers are waiting, you should write them their receipts, you sales boy.

mzilakazi:
This is a blow that killed him. Lezz is dead!!!

I never knew I was a thorn in your flesh.

Your shallow friend copied wiki for top 10 richest Africans. That's what southafrica is all about,: twisting facts. BBC and wiki which is more credible? lol. Poor poor, south Africa, how would they wish other African countries well when they were spoon fed and bathed and failed still.

Now we have Africa's largest economy( you can sing me that pp or hdi lamentations).

You say population is a curse? You're a demon of deceit and dishonesty. Your likes are spat upon and taken to a public square and horse whipped.

Brazil with over 170 million= south America's largest economy.

Germany 80 million Europe's biggest economy.

Nigeria 170 million Africa's power house and largest economy.

China= nearly 2 billion Asia's and soon to be world's biggest economy.

India, 1.4 billion 9th economy in the world.

In any war situation Nigeria shall out number you 4
to1.

That is why America and the west is so China- scary.
That is why your political class want a military defence pact with Nigeria.

That is why France never wanted northern Ireland to secede even though she envies the UK.

You all southies on this forum are sales clerks posing as military and political personnel.

What a waste of effort with these simpletons and imposters. Lol.

Patchesagain:
Economy - not most advanced, not biggest PP

Population - and so? Population is a curse, not a blessing

Military - 1780 pages say otherwise

Billionaires - Egypt leads Africa with 7, followed by RSA with 4 and Nigeria with only 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_the_number_of_US_dollar_billionaires

IT- [citation needed]

Telecom's - yeah totally, thats why South African firms dominate your market, also, consult the attached map for mobile coverage (pic 1)
- South Africa has Africa's 6th fastest internet connections (despite our Geographic disadvantage) and Nigeria 8th
http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2012/04/africas-top-ten-countries-with-fastest-internet-speeds/

Investment HUB - And yet Johannesburg South Africa remains the investment and financial capital of Africa and ranks amongst cities like Zurich, Hong-Kong and Shanghai
http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/204556

Democracy - South Africa is the 71st most democractic country in the world, Nigeria is only the 104th
http://democracyranking.org/?page_id=14

Religion - We have ZERO religious wars, you are in the middle of one.

"dynamic and entrepreneural citizenry" - and yet our companies dominate your markets

Clown

I thought there was only one southie school drop out. I forgot you are the chief dumbass here. I see, I sent you scurrying to google again.
You went and quoted a source that had the top 10 richest in Africa. You are as foolish as an ostrich.

Now tailor your lazy fingers to BBC, and a slave like you would know what's happening as of now.

Dongote is in 14 African countries already while glo, zenith, eco and a host of other firms and business scatter accross Africa. Anglo dutch companies hurried to Nigeria paying every and anything since 1994 to escape black savages and bushmen from becoming forced shareholders and running the company down.

You and your lots are still the white man's burden right there in your father land, you dripping , rustic savage douche-bag.

Buthurt, Soweto mouse.

FighterPilot:
Just stop making a mockery of yourself. Mbeki is no longer the president of SA and I have even forgotten about him that he was ever the president of SA. To correct you Nigeria only leads Africa in population and economy and surely not in military, billionaires and religion as you speculated. Most of millionaires and billionaires in your country were downgraded as a result of devaluing your currency against a dollar, your number now lacks behind that of SA a and Egypt. You have only two different religions in your country i.e Muslims and Christians and apart from that you find none, so, how does that make you religious hub of the continent other than a war on religion that you have pelted on your people. Militarily, I won't even touch it because you don't even make top 5 list. Sorry, brother. Nigeria does not lead Africa.

Mr ecowas- is-an-arm-of -au, the spirit behind the creation of ecowas in 1975 was to foster west African integration. OAU as the AU was known then was never part of the picture.

Again billionaires are counted in dollars not nairas. You went to school too late and dropped out too soon.

If two past southie president want a militARY defence pact, a rat like you should ponder why.

But you southies are suffering from identity crisis, post traumatic symptoms of disillussionment, a place of Belonging and a rude shock of realising what a black state like Nigeria can do.

You know you are eating off from the table prepared by your anglodutch master and you become numb with the satiety of gluttony.

Every success of Nigeria is a succes for the entie black Africa and a failure to south Africa. Hehehe.

mzilakazi:
UN->AU->ECOWAS=SADC (region)

AU is also independent from UN and so is ECOWAS and SADC independent from AU, but it does not mean there is no interrelationship between them. Dummy!!! If ECOWAS is incapable of funding it has all powers to make paving for AU to settle in.

Olodo, you said Ecowas was an arm of AU, so hold it there, you slippery low time thief.

Having thesame, ideology and framework doesn't mean they run on the same platform of hierarchical structure.
As a matter of fact the 16 member countries comprising ECOWAS can opt out of membership of AU.

You re a dropout who ate away his school fees and fled to Nigeria looking for ego massage.

FighterPilot:
I don't know what will Zuma gain from signing a defence pact with a country which is itself a security problem. A country which does not produce lethal weapons nor even a superpower. How can that ever make Zuma so desperate. Perhaps, Zuma will do that to open doors for SA entrepreneurs to head to Nigeria and establish security companies which will suck Nigeria as dry. Apart from that there is nothing that Nigeria can ever give.

Bwahahahaha… to be honest save your comments for further embarrassment. Nigeria has never lead Africa, apart from population and economy.

it is my pleasure and for your horror that I inform you that the quest to sign a defence pact with Nigeria dated back to Mbeki.

Now you further nailed yourself here by claiming to know better than your presidents.This has been your attitude in this forum. Saying what you don't know and speculating fact and twisting figures.

You are emotionally unstable as you seek to remedy your broken spirit on the Nigeria's e-forum.

We lead in economy, population, military, billionaires, IT, investment hub, telecominication, democracy, religion, dynamic and entrepreneural citizenry etc.

Go unfuck yourself. Dumb witted waste of humanity.

mzilakazi:
Your head is just as hard as a rock. AU took over the mission by using its arm ECOWAS to form multi national task force. The one that existed was underfunded and disorganised. So, now the AU finally took over the mission and will fund for everything. They will also appoint a commander which shall soon to be announced.

did you just say ECOWAS is an arm of AU?

Now you should burry your head in shame and embarrassment. You southies speak faster than you know. ECOWAS is a completely independent , autonomous sub-regional body funded chiefly by Nigeria and completly independent of AU.

We created, funded and manage ecowas and its military wing ecomog.

Now get out of this forum, you itinerant, barely- educated , loser. Even at trolling you're a huge 0

mzilakazi:
A Nigerian suffering from an acute madness. Since when did Nigeria ever lead Africa? Oh!! I forgot population wise isn't? Nigeria will never lead Africa in anything that relates to power. Sorry.

I can see my e-punches is knocking you into a rage of frenzy. Calm down. You should be glad a Nigerian is taking time out to chat with you, busting your ego and sense of world citizenship.

Remember you owe us a lot. And I should demand respect and a sense of hierarchy from you whenever you speak to/about Nigeria. So bring your tone down and always remember who taught you to say NO and look your captors in the eye.

Bottomless dregs of the international committee of nations is what you belong to.

FighterPilot:
Day dreaming as usual. Mr racist, blacks have always been used to fight from WW1 and 2 in SA. There are many black soldiers who fought and were rewarded with plot of land during the heydays of colonization. Learn your history and master it well.

After 1994 democratic election no even more 100 000 of my volks left the shores of this country. We will never run away from SA. We love it and that's were I was born and bred. I dont know Europe and neither we am I interested to live there. Only racists will ever do such cowardly act.

What I know about Nigeria is that it can never lead Africa. Where do you put a country that kills its own people in the driving seat. A country where black kill black so mercilessly. Sorry, If you fail to control your own country, how can you represent the whole of Africa?

We already lead Africa,fool. It's southie that has no place in Africa. Your president is desperate to sign a defence pact with Nigeria. None of your political class has what it takes to even draw up a neat foreign policy. Former UN Secretary General, Koffi Annan told the world that Africa depends on what happens to Nigeria. Zimbabwean president said it in black and white very bluntly: WHEN NIGERIA SNEEZES AFRICA CATCHES COLD"

Domestic violence doesn't sell you any vote, boy. US battles with gang related crimes, massive homicides, drugs, terrorism, serial child murderers, gun control issues. So what, boy, they are still the world's police man. Like I said told you your grasp of international politics and foreign relations are as low as your countries foreign outlook.

You don't know, you don't want to know. And you can't know. You're putting on stupidity blinders.

You need come over to the synagogue for deliverance of mediocrity.

FighterPilot:
You have a serious problem of understanding or either you don't watch and listen to the news. AU has taken a decision to take over Nigeria's war against terrorism which was also approved by UN in Ethiopia, dummy. The UN is funding for the war on behalf of AU, so now you can save your money and poke it at your back hole, AU will now fund for everything. It is now their responsibility to see what those troops eat, their well being and salaries. BH defeated your military and now AU finally took over. Thank you.

AU approved of about 7 thousand troops which would still consist of the existing multi national task force. The only new entry would be Benin. No other country would be participating except the existing lake chad basin neighbours who are all experiencing the imsurgence. AU can't fund Nigeria, it should be the other way round. If AU wants funding may be to Benin and chad.

You are a waste of humanity and and a petty insufferable imposter.

FighterPilot:
I can see the frustration in you and can clearly see that you perceive SA as only black. Why don't you want to compare yourselves to the likes of us Whites SA?

SANDF/SADF was teated many time from WW1, WW2, Korean war, Bush war, Lesotho war, and even in CAR and they never failed us.

how little thy brain is, oh fightertPilot!!
In 1994 blacks were liberated and over 1 million anglodutch fled. From 1994 to 2015 under ANC sa is decaying, rotting and stale.

Today, Anglo-dutch southies are like fish out of water. Not seen as Africans neither viewed as westerners. So the town of kleinfontein is a sick symbol of identity of sa.
The blacks are generally seen as opportunists who claim what they didn't sow and have destroyed everything their western masters built. The rate of decline is evident in every segment of your national life. From economty to the army to finance and education.

Southafrica participated in world war 1 and 2 as an aglodutch extension of Europe. So you still havnt fought any war you led in your name.

Your weapons were piled up and acquired in fear and panic to suppress anti apartheid insurrection both from within sa and without. And when apartheid failed everything crumbled and is still crumbling as we speak from your jets to your ships and weapons.

Well Nigeria represents what Africa can do and has been doing. Leading ecowas and ecomog Liberia, sierraleon, Mali , Bosnia, saotome and Principe.

Southafrica is a harsh blend of confused colours on the wrong continent.
That's why you are without focus, your foreign policy is speculative and embarrassing. Today you are in middle east which is out of your class.
Tomorrow you're in Europe which is not your league. Next you are in Africa giving lonely and embarrassing opinion where you are viewed as pure rookies and novice freed into the free world in 1994.

You stand nowhere, under your feet is a floating abyss of nothingness and delusional sense of importance.

DieVluit:
The very fact that you have an insurgency in the north called "Boko Haram" and folks in the Niger Delta watching happenings,is a big struggle with identity.

Yes, you are miles ahead, because your identity struggles result in massive deaths and massacres and wars.

you mean like blacks waiting and lurking in the dark for elderly and farming white folks? Like kleiforttein where your likes can't even enter. Spare me your stale, well-worn rhetorics.

FighterPilot:
That's an excuse. Your rag tag military should have contained BH right from the beggining before the problem far grows beyond your borders.

Hello, I am in the military and I know that since this is an AU war, Nigeria cannot do anything alone. Nigeria will never penetrate SAMBISA forest alone and they will never fight alone anymore.THIS IS AN AU WAR AND NO LONGER WITHIN NIGERIAS JURISDICTION.

BH defeated you and that's why AU has taken over. AU is now funding for the mission and troops involved except Nigeria's are now receiving their pay cheques from AU.

ifou are in the military, then I can actually see mediocre and incompetence all over sa army. Poor poor you. How is this an AU war? Every participating countries are members of the lake chad basin comprising 4 neighbouring countries. Fightrtpilot, you can't read or comprehend elementary
geography or foreign affairs. Petty imposter.

FighterPilot:
You should be dreaming. Why would he cry for something which he is not related with by blood? The only thing which will make him cry is when SANDF is defeated by rag tag insurgents at home; taking to their heels and losing bases to the convenience of insurgents; fellow civilians being massacred right under the noses of SANDF; losing land because of forceful land grabs by insurgents; and when SANDF is so incapable to the extend of using help from civilians in battle and even asking our neighbours to join hands. I think that will be a disgrace which will drag tears to fall down his chicks just like it does in you.


Hopefully, you are the one who is supposed to be crying looking into how your military has been reduced. From what used to be regional superpowers to rag tag malnourished force which lacks weapons to fight. To be realistic, Nigeria is just a shadow of their past and their are no longer a force to be reckon with. Nigerian military is no different from Burundi armed forces or any army from Haiti. They have dissolved faster than expected. There is nothing left to ever boast about no matter how hard you will try, because all the weaknesses of your military have been exposed to the world where even Djibouti is so confident to take you man-on-man.

your army isnt tested yet and has never fought any battle. You and your southies on nairaland are all the army sa has.
Your frustrated rants are the weapons sa army never fired.

What's going on is a Nigeria led multi taskforce. It is a modern way of combat. Like the US led war in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

Now your opinion don't count. You are a southy and a rival. It's an open secret that you don't wish us well. God made us your betters.

Your country will be forever struggling with her identity and purpose

Every black southafrican needs to go unfuck yourself. The world is miles ahead of you.

FighterPilot:
[size=18]Wrong(X). The only thing that makes us angry is the rag tag Nigerian army which runs away from the insurgents leaving civilians behind all in their own. Now that they got the boost from strong hardened Chadian troops and Cameroonians we hope that the Chadians will flush them out.[/size]

the north eastern part of Nigeria is a vast territory that bounds Cameroon, Chad and holds the sambisa forest.

As a matter of routine, whenever the Nigeria military unleash massive military onslaught on bokoharam, they often escape into neighboring countries comprising the lake chad basin thereby killing and regrouping from there. Moreso, some sizeable numbers of boko fighters are from neighbouring west African states.
So Chad and Camerood and now Benin are actually fighting their own bokoharam as a way of personal survival.

Mind bokoharam operates in border villages that have no visible boundaries, hence participating countries are allowed to engage bokoharam from one their own end of the border into the other part of the border of neighbouring country.

Am I expecting you to see it logically, to see the plain facts? NO. You are not human enough to see and recognize hard truths and facts.

Your petty nature is as irrelevant as your narrow mindedness.

Nigerian army has entered bokoram's very strong hold and fortress: SAMNISSA FOREST. not the multinational task force.

FighterPilot:
[size=18]Wrong(X). The only thing that makes us angry is the rag tag Nigerian army which runs away from the insurgents leaving civilians behind all in their own. Now that they got the boost from strong hardened Chadian troops and Cameroonians we hope that the Chadians will flush them out.[/size]

the north eastern part of Nigeria is a vast territory that bounds Cameroon, Chad and holds the sambisa forest.

As a matter of routine, whenever the Nigeria military unleash massive military onslaught on bokoharam, they often escape into neighboring countries comprising the lake chad basin thereby killing and regrouping from there. Moreso, some sizeable numbers of boko fighters are from neighbouring west African states.
So Chad and Camerood and now Benin

DieVluit:
Only one thing missing : the part where you point out the loss.

Anyone can wake up from their wet dream and scream "loss". But not everyone can articulate it. And you can and will never point not out.

Your tears wouldn't make you notice even if I pointed it out to you.
And stop this embarrassment; I can feel the heat of your shame miles across this platform to where I'm sitting.
Your tears are adding to the flood washing away your lame attempts at bravery and tenacity.
Give it son.

DieVluit:
Easy to scream "murdered". Demonstrating how and pointing that out is the impossible part.

So, as you were.

during world war 11, the japs
Kept on fighting despite despite heavy and colossal lost to American onslaught and after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

You are re-living that moment for us in 2015. Someone needs to call you to order like the Japanese emperor was called before The General finish tearing you into pieces from limb to limb.