johnydon22:
Gravity is an effect not an uncaused value as Uyil would have us believe - well let's wait for his own idea on the causality of gravity ..

again i would suggest you both try not to turn this into something personal by using insutive words and persoanl remarks - we may all be wrong still

uyi:

God (conscious, intelligent energy) perforce effected our universe. What you call space I call God. Luckily for me, you've stated space is something.

uyi:

Good. Space-time is intelligent. To help you, note that only intelligent dudes talk about it.

uyi:

To the first question: God is consciousness itself and He imputed it to humans by telekinesis.

Reyginus:
Okay. Whenever you're ready just bring it.

Reyginus:
Show me then.

Reyginus:
Okay. He didn't follow the Christian life according to the bible.

Reyginus:
Is this wiegraf?

hahn:


@bolded is also an example of a religious mind, don't you think?

Reyginus:
I'm yet to even make a case simply trying to identify yours.

Reyginus:
It seems she's been justified because she's attacking a supposedly true Christian.

Reyginus:
So tell me how do you know a true Christian?

hahn:


As expected. He looks like Jesus though

Mynd_44:
Can you wait until night then?

Mynd_44: Huh? Can you please summarize? I am not in a place where I can read long posts

Mynd_44:
your comment violated rules 1 and 2

mac_d_one_true_untouchable_bossu:
2. I come from nothing.

Bidam: @Josh, most of these guys rely on human logic for an argument.INFACT majority of their queries have been answered in this forum by Mr.Anony, Ihedinobi,stryklymi,davidylan to mention a few.You might want to check their profile topics so as to know what to expect from these guys.

They are always old worn-out recycled garbage of questions which have already been answered.Cheers.

Joshthefirst: why are you wasting your time on me then? Don't you know I'm "irredemably daft"? You should just keep ignoring me like you always do. I don't enjoy repeating the same thing to those hard of hearing.

Joshthefirst:
when have I ever made this claim? As I said you're only good at seeing what you want to see. Idolatry. I don't enjoy repeating the wages of sin is death over and over when you choose not to hear. God even wiped nations out because of wickedness. But that does not bother you. You'd rather continue in sin and call God unjust. Does that change anything?

Joshthefirst:
Why would he force you to keep the law? God has released you into the world as a free moral agent. That does not mean you won't answer for crimes in the end. Does a judge not wait for a crime to be commited before the criminal is brought to law? We shall all stand before God to answer for our actions. He might use legitimate threatenings and appeals for different kinds of people to make them keep the law, but in the end, its up to them to keep it. Although he knows who will eventually keep or break the law, justice demands you warn everyone and give each one a chance to make his choice, Is that not true? How is this hard for you who claims to be intelligent to understand?

Joshthefirst:
I'm preaching

Joshthefirst:
you do not seem to understand what eternal justification and eternal punishment is wrt eternity. Everyone has his chance to live here. After that is eternity. And what you do here will tell how you'll spend your eternity.

Joshthefirst:
this is a lie that I have never spoken or said. I do not like being lied about. Place of birth and situation is not sin. Sin is wrong doing. Everyone knows when he does wrong and violates his conscience. This is another case of you trying to believe only what you want to believe and twisting facts to rationale your false claims of God's injustice. You might as well tell me a suicide bomber and terrorist does not sin because he thinks he's serving allah.

smt wiki:

Throughout Shin Megami Tensei series, YHVH is characterized as a vain dictator who has created the universe in such a way that it will be subjugated under him forever. Lucifer rejected YHVH's authority and took one-third of the heavenly host to revolt against YHVH; however, Lucifer was defeated and banished to the demon world, falling from grace and subsequently becoming the lord of the demon world. YHVH is commonly referred as the "true enemy" throughout the series by Lucifer.

YHVH detests any kind of freedom and will openly condemn those who choose to pursue that path. He desires worship of only Himself and threatens punishment upon any who defy His will. Furthermore, He is shown to be incredibly naive, as He believes that whatever he commands, all will obey it.

Joshthefirst:
let me repeat what I said, incase it got by you:
]you do not seem to understand what eternal justification and eternal punishment is wrt eternity. Everyone has his chance to live here. After that is eternity. And what you do here will tell how you'll spend your eternity.

Joshthefirst:
actually, all you've done is show me the folly of your ways. Was this message adressed to you? It was adressed to those who do care about their eternal wellbeing. God doesn't necessarily need you wiegraf, he only cares about you as a loving parent would. But he will judge you as a just judge. The requirements of justice must be met. We are not the only beings in the universe who watch to see the ways of Almighty.

YOU IN THE OP:

If you're a proud windbag, know today that you are being resisted by God himself.

Joshthefirst:
things are already being achieved, the word of God prospers.
The only thing I want to tell you is this:
The soul that sinneth, it shall die.

The son of man shall come to judge the living and the dead.

For the wages of sin is death, BUT THE FREE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD

obadiah777: ill check it out.

twas spambot. i have released you sire

Localamos: @wiegraf. I wonder why you choose to smear another person with a derogatory appellation such as bigot. I thought this was an intellectual discuss aimed at enlightening others.
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If you feel I've erred in my comments, why don't you point it out instead of resorting to name calling.
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BTW, talking about name (calling). I'm confused here... is Wiegraf one and the same as this Lightning guy?

I see lightninglord laying claims to wiegraf's comments. mpd.

localomos:

necrophilia, pedophalia and -of course - homo.se.xuality

Mr Troll: ^^^
wiegraf?

Mr Troll:
yes o! We don miss u small sha. The theists here have been dreary and really boring. Any shayo for the boys?

Mr anony:
I think you are getting things mixed up. Are you saying that....

a) I have not shown you an example of non-matterial information directly causing an effect in the form of physical matter (change in brain size)

or are you saying....

b) I have shown you an example of non-matter effecting matter however it is a natural occurence for non-matter to effect matter.

Which is it?

Mr anony:
Please try not to employ the "spirit/soul" strawman this time?

Mr anony:
Two questions you are still evading
1. Why is he a bigot?

me:
So, butt sex between heteros, BJs and the works fit that definition of paraphernalia by your definition. Actually, anything other than missionary is superfluous, including say (especially tongue) kissing. Please add them to your illustrious list, along with necrophilia, pedophalia and -of course - homo.se.xuality, else, you're a bigot.

Mr anony:
2. Why is it ok to discriminate between sexual preferences in a secular sense (whatever you might mean by "secular sense"?

Mr anony:
There is no nonsense in what I said. If a person totally owns, creates and sustains a thing solely by his will, he/she is under no obligation towards it.

anony:
God has the right to do as He pleases with what belongs to Him. He is not unfair at all.

Mr anony:
P/s: since you never claim to be mature, I will stop relating with you based on the assumption that you possess some maturity.

Mr anony: I have shown you a direct causal relationship between non-matterial information and matterial change.

Mr anony:
Why is he a bigot?

P/s: dodging the request to explain yourself but instead employing the ad hominem fallacy by calling me a sociopath is more testament to the fact that your rhetoric is weak.

Please feel free to tell us why you think he is a bigot and why it is ok to discriminate between sexual preferences in a "secular sense" (whatever you mean by that) whenever you are ready....or you can always amuse yourself by replying with another insult. I won't bother to respond to childish mockery anymore it gives your words much more credit than they are worth.

Mr anony:
I am only firmly pointing out to you that God is not being unfair. Since the whole universe is His property, He is under no obligation to give you what you want just because you want it.

Mr anony:

What do you mean by "in a secular sense"? I would have thought that a secular sense wouldn't discriminate between any sexual preferences.

Mr anony:
P/s: The if-you-don't-agree-with-me-you-are-a-bigot style of argument is really immature. If you truly had some intellect, you wouldn't need to employ the ad hominem fallacy in your rhetoric.

grrm:
"Is Jaime Lannister cursed by the Gods?" another asked. Martin put his elbows on the table and leaned forward, "Do you really believe there are Gods? I'll answer whether there are Gods in my books when I see definitive evidence about whether there are Gods in this world. Maybe if God turns up and is interviewed on CNN or something.

grrm:
Don't read this if you haven't yet watched the season finales of BATTLESTAR GALACTICA and/ or LIFE ON MARS. I've finally seen both (we are TIVO junkies, so we don't always watch shows the night they air), and... well...

BATTLESTAR GALACTICA ends with "God Did It." Looks like somebody skipped Writing 101, when you learn that a deus ex machina is a crappy way to end a story.

Mr anony:
Are you saying they are both evil? If so, by what moral standard did you judge them?

Mr anony:
In what sense do you mean?

Mr anony:
But deepsight will also be offending her values too. no?

Mr anony:
reductio ad absurdum

Mr anony:
Do you really understand the meaning of "truly"