₦airaland Forum

Stupedinluv:
Yea but as long as they've declared their independence, ideally, nothing should stop them from investigating the police

Moreso, they are in the best position to handle them.

I guess we aint talking about Nigeria anymore...

Stupedinluv:
And so?

They are birds of a feather with police force. Their boss Magu is an ACP

Stupedinluv:
Thought EFCC is independent of external influence?

Abeg they should start probing those armed robbers collecting #20 naira from husslers everyday.

Ribadu formed the EFCC from cream of the police force. Besides, they are only after big names and media trials.

nellybadas:
From the story above I have the feeling they obviously expected so much from each other. Uche Nnaji wanted to cash in on the guy and blow his business. The guy thought Uche would make him big in a flash. Well it didn't happen dat way for either.

You voiced my mind.

Dymaco:
which govt...
which Nigeria govt official son dey school for naija

That's the only way to bring sanity and redemption into the health and education sectors.

Oga you seem to have forgotten that EFCC is a branch of Police. So you expect colleagues to go after each other

Why cant govt discourage people from going abroad to study....too much capital flight.

Reference:
It is not about price but productivity. Price comes last. If increased productivity, efficiencies and competition permits 87, so be it, but that is not the goal. That is an NLC type socialism argument in which they cry for higher wages not minding productivity levels then watch helplessly as inflation robs them at gun point.
It is a consistent track record of productivity that has made 2 gig data sell for N1000 today and a bag of cement relatively stable despite the terrible inflation. Where we cry is where we are not producing enough such as forex, foodstuff and fuel. So price is not the matter, making stuff is.

I would like you to explain productivity in relation to market dynamics. Going by your example....productivity of the telcos made 2gb 1k?Really pls explain

Heavance:
People just come up with crazy figures, do you know what a million is? If you think the figure is 250 million, then the population of Hausa should be times two.
In total, they can't even be up to a million outside naija...... They should stop claiming figures jare, thats how some just openly say we are about 20 million plus in Lagos, using traffic and the crowd they see to conclude, if its true, then Kano alone will be 50 million na.

Might not be up to 250m but definitely more than million world over.

Simply lost and forgotten!

@Everyone asking Koro to come out. Even if he were to be clean do you think he would be given fair hearing with mannerisms of EFCC lately? I doubt that...

Efcc Under PMB has gone to the dogs...its more less a weekly charade now to get the media talking about them nothing else.

forgiveness:
Bros, what is the form of government the UK is practicing?

Where three or four countries in one but is controlled by one government.

Each countries have their own police, assemble, athletes representing them international, and control their resources etc.

Con-federalism is only on paper. 10 Downing street controls all other countries in their so called con-federal system.

soonest:
Sir, but this your statement is contradictory now. If you agree that the above sets the precedence then that means that's the root cause and mother of all corruptions.

Not necessarily, corruption is a foundation issue. If you agree we may work on this...

AdamsBashforth:
Lionshare, you are not God. You started your piece brilliantly then made a dogs breath out of your conclussions. You have to be open minded you know?

Thanks sir. I am open to learn from you...perhaps my assertions are wrong. Kindly correct me...

oweniwe:
How many tribes or ethnic groups are in Germany, Canada, USA, India or Switzerland ... Compared to Nigeria?

We all read advantages and disadvantages of various systems of government in school nau.
federalism does not suit it.
If there are few ethnic groups in a country, you may adopt unitary/central system of government ... Switzerland land mass is very small so

But in a country like Nigeria where you have over a hundred ethnic groups... Hausa, igbo, yoruna, bini, kanuri, urhobo, tiv, idoma, efik, ijaw, ijebu, fulani.... And you want to practice unitary system of government ...

That country will never work... Because ... Even though they are jammed into one country, they will never work together.

If one tribe want to do this, the other tribes will do all they can to frustrate them.

IBB Frustrated Abiola... Abacha locked up obasanjo... Obasanjo frustrated Atiku... Boko haram frustrated GEJ... Buhari locked up Nnamdi Kanu... Niger Delta militants are frustrating Buhari... You see am?

Do u still think strong Center fits Nigeria?

Yes, you need a strong center always. Name one country with some such heterogeneous as Nigeria practicing con-federalism?

Oildichotomy:
You seem to be very confident with your pessimism about the South-South.

What gave you that strong impression if I may ask?

My Pessimism is opined by the current situation of SS wherein they have Ministry of ND, Amnesty Programme, 13% Derivation and NDDC but no viable development to show.

oweniwe:
Do you know how many political organs are in Nigeria from federal to ward level? How many local government chairmen... How many councillors

Add federal and 36 states legislators... State and and federal ministries... Government parastals like Nnpc, Customs, Faan...

If you sue customs or nnpc will they obey court order?

Now multiply you. 1% times all these organizations.. senate, house of rep, 36 states house of assemblies... 774 LGAs... Thousands of councillors...How many federal and 36 states ministries... Over 5,000 people with political immunity... Now multiply that with your 1% ...

You see am?

I maintain that's still minute compared to the level of corruption done by me and you when collated...but the above sets the precedent

oweniwe:
Where were the weaker states created from?

Nigeria went from 3 regions to 4 regions and then 12 or so states to 23 states and to present 36!

If you revert everything back to 4 regions, nobody is going to die.

The same way they were sustaining themselves b4 they were split is the same same way they will sustain themselves if you merge them again

Will you revert the population to the way its was. Pls be futuristic with your thoughts...

Dminister:
I can't teach you any further cos you are far from the knowledge of comparative politics.
comparative politics make one or a political scientist to figure why a particular system of government is successful in one country than the others thus being the reason why we compare. all political systems do not perform the same way others do. a failure of one system would make another system a success in another country.
we are operating federal system of government because there is the need for unity and oneness due to multiplicity of languages and ethnicity. so if we consider fiscal federalism then we should be ready for regionalism instead of patriotism. it can begin to pit one region against and take away the feeling of oneness therefore making each region prone to cessation.

Comparative Politics...Why is it that all pol sys dont perform the same way? Have you considered the factors inherent in each system? Besides, so you think USA, Germany, India, Canada e.t.c, did not consider fiscal federalism before opting for federalism. Do you know the only major country claiming to be a con-federal state is Switzerland yet it has a strong central govt?

oweniwe:
If you put yam in front of a goat, will it not eat the yam?

Immunity clause and free federal money iare the reasons why corrupt is reasons why corruption is rampart in nigeria

instead of receiving monthly allocation for doing nothing, Remove immunity clause and let states work for their revenue...

Den any politician well make he steal oe naira.

In my opinion that accounts for less than a percent of the root causes of corruption.

oweniwe:
It is a step that begets the Journey of a thousand miles...

When will the FG start helping or preparing "weaker" states?

If a state is weak and cannot sustain itself, it has no business being a state... In the world... It's the fittest that survive ... Why are we wasting funds and energy on "weak " states?

How will weak states become strong when we continue to pamper them for their weakness ... Look at the Educationally less developed states clause ... In the law was enacted in 1970s or so... Over 40 years, the same states, despite of the advantages accorded them are still educationally less developed in 2016!

When are they going to become developed

Is it right and fair that weaker states are tying down other states from moving on as fast as they can?

Shey because you neighour is driving 504 on the express means If you have range rover sport, you should park ur range rover at home or if u drive it, you must not overtake your neighbor?

The people who made laws for this country are very very stvpid

Zamfara is a less developed state... Ebonyi is less developed too... Ebonyi is willing to adopt federalism so she can better exploit her abakaliki rice, export it and use accrued revenue to build her needed infrastructure ... Zamfara is against federalism...

Is it right that Zamfara is tying down Ebonyi?

This situation is fvck up.

A quick one...if you were the bigger state. Would you be willing to absorb the weaker state? Considering the economic implications..

WILLIAMS10:
The purpose of this thread,I believe,is for us to learn an sharpen our hitherto understanding..That's d reason I took out time to explain both concepts(federalism and confederacy/"true federalism).
Federalism,if practised appropriately will unite and allay ethnic sentiments(due to a central government).on the other hand,confederacy will only highlight ethnic differences. We will become conscious of our echelon. Thereby,further polarising the country. Also,federalism,if anemic,will also heighten ethnic consciousness..the marginalised group will react and call for separation.
The truth does not change,only our knowledge of it does..Confederacy is tantamount to giving up our unity and oneness.

Well said!!!

Oildichotomy:
Anybody telling us about a particular region pulling out because of Fiscal federalism is just showing insecurity and crass laziness.

I know for sure the Niger Delta ain't pulling out for no reason if federalism is practised to the latter.

The current system feeds the current drive of succession and truth be told we cannot continue like this or we will continue in this vicious cycle of ethnic divisions, nepotism and corruption.

#FederalismIsNigeriasFuture
#NoToFeedingBottleFederalism

As much I would love to support this but I think you should understand that even if we allow SS keep 90% of proceeds from oil it will remain the same way as it is today.

methodyk:
Define Federalism in relation to Resource Control.

I know your endgame....but If i may ask who ends up richer?

Dminister:
Mr man, in a federal system of government structure, the states or units making up the government are called regions and where the overall head of government is called the central also where absolute powers are resided.
The central government cannot remain overall powerfull in true federalism cause it's absolute powers enshrined in exclusive list of the constitution which it legislate alone are also being performed by the regional governments. Therefore, the central government has no absolute power over the states.The central is left with absolute powers in terms of foreign affairs and defence.
I am a political scientist, this is my field.

Honestly if you are political scientist...please return your certificate. What do you call what USA is practicing? OH or you think NY is more powerful than the FG? why then do you think the rich sponsor politicians to Washington...If may ask who dictates the economic direction? why do you think the greenback has been on bullish lately?

I am ready to learn....i mean i would always bow to superior argument backed with facts and figures...

DEAFandDUMB:
But do you think our leaders can actually heed to our cry for true federalism without a total revolution or confrontation?
What do you think Sir?

Change (Not APC change ooo) is a process; lets force the law makers to consider the thoughts. I wish there were a platform deliberations(noteworthy one's) could be pass to the house to deliberate....Honestly I have learnt more on here than I have in any class or any course.

DEAFandDUMB:
But do you think our leaders can actually heed to our cry for true federalism without a total revolution or confrontation?
What do you think Sir?

If the social media can force the Senate to down on #CCB and others...they force them to look at the exclusive list. Take electricity from the exclusive list and you have power supply in Lagos in months. Its commonsense...why would you as an investor want to put money where you cannot dictate your terms: profit, employee, vision e.t.c,

oweniwe:
Immunity clause in the constitution says you cannot sue, prosecute or charge a serving political office holder or his appointees to cour Until their tenure is over.

So if a governor like, he can eat 50billion... Nobody can touch him ... And after his tenure, he contest for House of rep or senate... And goes scott free with his loot.

It is the system ' s fault

That erroneous. It says you cannot pursue but it does not say you cannot stop, control or discourage corruption.

I would like to start a topic on the root cause and solution to corruption...

oweniwe:
You are wrong sir...

There are some things called "Federal Exclusive " list....

Power, Rail, Police, Ports and othrr critical infrastructure are at the exclusive prerogative of the federal government....

States has no right to undertake FG exclusive projects. This is why states hardly repair federal roads... its same reasons why all ports are owned by FG...

Delta and Akwa Ibom tried to build their own sea ports and were frustrated.

Look at your power grid... You can't generate power without federal license and the power u generate will be shared people u don't know while your state is in darkness. Delta state has 3 power plants and yet power is erratic in Asaba... If you were the governor, will u build another power plant? That is why we have epileptic power in Nigeria.

So states can't just build anything they like. Whatever they want to build, they have to ship it to lagos and haul by trucks to their respective states....

All these useless laws limits and restrict investments. That is why it is better for Nigeria to revert to regionalism... Let people build whatever they want and keep it instead of chasing federal approval and then sharing their sweat with people they dont know

They are not useless laws so to say, lets call on our legislature to effect the needed changes. The executive that we curse and insult all the time, cant and will not do it. Only the legislature can make changes to that list.

Btw, Lagos repairs Federal roads all the time. Let's not be sentimental, do you know the reason the ports in other parts of the country cannot be compared or used on the same scale as that of lagos? Pls. google why Port in Felixstowe, UK is does more cargoes that than of Southhampton, same UK.

From this thread the problem of this country can be ascertained...

Lets be objective. If you were the Governor of say...Lagos State. Which would you prefer?

The one that gives you enough data so you can plan, make assumptions and projections or the one that gives almost zilch to work with?

DEAFandDUMB:
Am new here my dear... This forum houses great thinkers and eloquent political analyst I've ever come across.. How I wish most of our comments here will be published on national dailies...

Be honest! Would you like to see you state merge?