₦airaland Forum

Throwback:
The hypocrite Peter Obi turned it into a tribal matter when Fashola did same that even affected some Yoruba states and some Northern states.

But Obi made it look like it wasn't something his own state Government had also done earlier, and used it to campaign against Ngige of the APC to favour Obiano who was his own chosen successor from APGA.

Slimy politician.

When Boss??

Seeing a problem with returning street beggars to their states is the reason Nigeria is where it is.... If this does action show anything, it show Peter obi capacity to take hard but necessary decisions unlike some of the other candidates

Tflex01:
Lol there is nothing meaningful in what you wrote up there... It's more like a write up of a brainwashed teenager that lack basic political awareness in a multi ethnic society like Nigeria.

You are still a disgrace.

Ooopsss... I forgot..
so sorry it is long. You don't read.

Brain washed Nah

I presented logic, you present nothing but ethnicity and insult. It is a shame,elder.

Tflex01:
Na mumu born you.

You are a big disgrace to your father.

Hmmm... For the mumu borninng me.. lol. I seriously doubt. But I am not sure so maybe... But this I am sure, I no mumu and I can defend my position. I doubt if you can make any of the statement I just made with out blinking.

As for the disgrace part, I don't think my father is disgraced as much as I feel you were disgraced for being unable to defend your position. You are either a big mumu, a massive disgrace to this platform and all it represents, a paid freelancer just doing his master's business or maybe one of those BOTs they talk about..... Well, never mind.

I am ashamed and quite sad, you found this platform before you grew your mind. It makes this platform full of a lot of trash. You are actually a disgrace to me.. Sad.

Tflex01:
The Obi you are supporting accelerated Anambra's growth abi?

https://www.nairaland.com/870945/what-exactly-peter-obi-doing

YOU ARE EVEN MORE STUPID THAN I THOUGHT!

Abeg go back to Obi supporters telegram groups where Igbos continue to brainwash you against your own people.

Werey!

Ouchhh!!! The capital letters hurts.. lol.
When one spends all his time on nairaland for his news source instead of bringing out document and figure from reliable sources, it just shows that you really don't readddd. Lol.

You only come here to do what you were instructed to do from your grouuuuppps ( I don't know if peter obi has a group, I have not been added that is why I do not follow any script or strategy unlike you..lol)

For your information, Look through the trend in the news source you posted. The complaint was 2 things majorly

1) refusal to borrow
2) little infrastructure unlike Ngige

All the complains are true peter obi refused to borrow as a result he was able to reduce Anambra domestic and foreign debt to almost zero (at least compared to your candidate states). The behind the scene of this is that he invested in bonds and absolutely safe investment that would yield in tranches meaning successive government of Anambra would always have access to fund. This was a master stroke.

Secondly, peter obi did infrastructure tho not on the Ngige level however the backend is that most infrastructure he brokered especially in the health sector were master strokes also due to his prudent nature successive government has access to enough fund to build as much infrastructure as possible. That is why Obiano (a suspected drunk) can build an airport without equivalent growth of revenue. The question you should ask is where did he get the money?? I would answer you peter obi's investment

Your candidates couldn't as much upgrade the MMI airport not to talk of building another one in spite the airport being largely burden due to heavy traffic as a result of Lagos being a port city. Do you know why?? because all they do paying PR companies and people like you to hype it minor infrastructural growth while the critical and people oriented ones are never complete( ask me about the blue and red rail line because I am sure you don't know because you don't read)... Ohhh, i almost forgot that they also invest heavily in making ensuring appropriate reward systems in political parties as well as making thuggery lucrative.


Lastly, to ensure you are well briefed and you don't sound Stupid again, the Nigeria problem is our ease to borrow and invest heavily on infrastructure while our economy is dying. The buhari's administration did well in regards to infrastructure but the failure is in economy. Peter obi represent the opposite, grow the economy, the economy growth would lead to infrastructural growth.

I am glad if you read to this point, you would have been healed of a minor part of your stupidity.

Tflex01:
If you are truly Yoruba and you think Obi is better than Tinubu then you are really a foo.lish person. The Igbos promoting that fraud Obi are obviously smarter than you lots. You people make us understand why some persons believe that Igbos are the only group of people that can consistently sell fake products to you at the price of original.

Hmmmmm, foolish?? That is a strong word. Well, you are just a man blinded by tribalism so it makes it difficult to see clearly, if you think you can gaslight everyone to vote your candidates without putting his credentials out there you are not just being foolish, you are a fool ( I hope you know the difference)

What has your candidates done apart from slowing the growth of Lagos? If you compare Lagos to other port capital with equivalent revenue size around Africa you would cry. Unfortunately you don't read so you don't know. As long as you go to your APC strategy meeting on WhatsApp and telegram and you are brain washed or maybe given little 1000 for data, you strength is renew to call people names. Boss read news, compare economics, find out the Nigeria problem and if your candidates fit to the solving plan or keeeep quiet.

Livelystone01:
My vote is for Obi but he needs to understand that he is fighting to be the president of Nigeria not just a religious group. It is within his right to visit anywhere but he should understand that his followership is a Nigerian one, not to a sectional or to a particular religion. He should balance his consultations by visiting northern emirs and leaders to express inclusiveness.

Supporters, I urge you all to understand that politics is a game of numbers, we need the northerners and Muslims to understand that PO is for all. You guys should desist from tribal and religious banters, they are counterproductive.

Finally, every youth with wisdom should understand that Peter Obi may not be able to create an immediate turn of fortunes, but it will produce the awareness that him (PO) winning will signal one thing; "VICTORY FOR THE YOUTHS AND POWER TO THE ELECTORATES"

Trueee

Realtalk20:
Ibo language? U really are not educated and exposed are you? For you to call my language Ibo days alot

No need to argue with you. You just disgraced yourself online..

Shame on you . You don't even know Nigerian languages .

Secondly no one is more tribalsitic than the Yorubas aka Tinubu supporters.
Just read the myopic NONSENSE you wrote. So everyone who disagrees or hated Yoruba is Ibo?

Olodo

Well, it is not my language so it is possible that is not igbo and I never claimed to be multilingual sir.. lol..

However I apologize for assuming the language was igbo because it looks igbo(everyone should own up to their mistake)

And for the not educated, if I am not I don't know who is..lol

Well, he said shame on you ...clown... what is the shame that I do not know 1 of over 100 languages?? You that know almost all the language yet can get over the hate for yorubas the hate is in your soul, it Is like cancer and it is eating you up. When being tribalistic Is appropriated to a tribe it remove the individuality of the word. What you don't get is simple, I never said tinubu supporter isn't tribalistic as a matter of fact you cannot trigger tribalistic comment without first sounding tribalistic, what I am saying is people as myopic and hateful like you are making their strategy work and it is a big minus to the obidient movement.. I am not here to argue tribe or cram languages (which I already show I am no expert at) all I claim is "obidient" consistent tribalistic comments make the movement lack presidential lustre.

Realtalk20:
I didnt read your trash because I am 100% certain you wrote garbage ...

But let me first finish you ... tugha dehie obo oghe eghian


And since you weren't raised well and most southwest youths nmand insulted your master let me leave you with this ...Avanukhun okhian riewe ekokodu..

https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/bst.gif

Wowww, Tinubu guys are doing a great job with this tribal campaign thing... Not because Obi is tribal but the average Obi supporter is.. can you read what you wrote there?? Insulting a whole region and annotating it with igbp language

It is funny how you guys can still fall for their gimmick after knowing what they are doing if you are not inately tribal having lost hope in the Nigeria project.

Well Obi's only hope is southern Nigeria (well that is pending campaign) as his deputy is only taking pictures in the North no public consultations... If you think you can malign the SW and get a presidency in 2023 well think again. The educated member of the tribe may vote for your candidate but the illiterates would never go for those that seemingly hate their tribe

That is why the north is the way it is... No logical thinking just tribal and regional..

Even social media campaign must be strategic and all inclusive.

You should know jagaban is super strategic if he can sell buhari to Nigerians to a majority in Nigeria in 2015 while making him look like a saint, his PR firms are first grade professionals so if they are using the tribal card we either be wise or we lose out

In politics, you must know your friend and also your enemy.

PericomaNwankwo:
Enyi getat. Liberal kee u Dia. Go and kill the fulas that have taken over your land and your tradition and are raping your mother's. After everything you people did, what now?? y.ariba still have more poverty stricken people and mentally backward fellows like you.

Honestly quotes like this is the reason Many has reservation the obi presidency, how can a people be so attached to the past that they destroy their future.

Tribes didn't make the mistake that divides us people did.

For your information, the Fulani problem has been solved thanks to amotekun and decisive legislature.

No one is raping anyone here. Don't be too covered with hate to know that the south west is doing well in security compared to last year and two years ago

Let's begin to appreciate our selves and strength instead of foolishly holding to story that was said in the moonlight and beer parlour

Modphase:
That is obvious you are simply a fool.

Hmmmm I understand how it feels to have little or nothing to sell about your candidates, you have to tend towards either Insulting or gaslighting anyone that disagrees.. it is a harrrddddd life and I pity u.

I support peter obi and I know why. You support whosoever you are supporting but you do not know why

Well maybe because you were added to the "political strategy" group chat.

I feel you are more worthy of the fool tag my friend

Putinofrussia:
These are some of Tinubu's projects even when Obasanjo did not release Lagos state money.
He did better than most governors..

A whopping amount of N14 billion was expended on 417 road construction projects spanning 250 kilometres across the state in the first three years of his administration. 255 of these roads were already completed at that time while others were near completion.

Construction of Adeola-Odekun.

Dualisation of Ikorodu-Itokin-Epe Link Road

Dualisation of Ejigbo-Ajao Estate/Airport Road.

Dualisation of Mende/Opebi Link Road.

Expansion of Badagry Expressway.

Also during the first three years, six strategic roads were upgraded to dual carriageway status complete with streetlights, drainage channels and walkways. They are Ikotun/Igando Road in Alimosho, Kudirat Abiola Way in Ikeja, Akin adesola Axis in Eti-Osa, Itire-Lawanson Ojuelegba-Yaba Road in Mushin, Surulere and Mainland LGAs, Awolowo Road in Eti-Osa, and Lagos Island Local Governments Areas, and Moshalashi-Agege Motor Road in Mushin Local The government began laying the foundations for the megacity goal of the state and this brought about the revival of so many sectors in the state of which transportation was one.

Asiwaju resuscitated the moribund Lagos State Ferry Service by rehabilitating the grounded five ferries in the fleet namely; MF Babakekere, MF Jubilee, MF Ologe, MF Topo, MF Illo, and MF Omu all having the capacity to transport over 1000 passengers.
Asiwaju carried out the dualization of Oregun road.
Asiwaju created the Lagos Metropolitan Area Transportation Authority (LAMATA), a public-private partnership agency, as a way to reform the transport system in Lagos to create a world-class intermodal integrated transport system for the megacity goal of the state.
Revival of the light rail network by Bola Ahmed Tinubu as part of the Greater Lagos Urban Transportation Project. The blue line of the project was designed to run 27.5km from Marina through Okokomaiko with 13 stations and an end-to-end journey time of 35 minutes. The redline is designed to run from Agbado to Marina, it will share the right-of-way of the Lagos-Kano Gauge.

I respect your choice and your desire to put your candidate out... I still go with Peter obi tho. This isn't very convincing however what I would forever respect is you trying to sell your candidates achievement without insult.

IamAtikulate:
Our incoming president will be live at the Redemption Camp soon and Shiloh 2022 slated for December 6 to 11 (less than 2 months to the election).

Pa Adeboye and Bishop Oyedepo will endorse Peter Obi.

Enemies of Christ, our Lord can donate their tears.

We moveeee

Pa Adeboye would not and can not endorse Obi or anybody. He has never done it and he would never do it�....

Let's keep our emotions in check and be realistic except you are being sarcastic tho

BATified2023:
To all the Yorubas forming woke,can u now see clearly that igbos don’t love u n can never love u

They are decieving u that they would have preferred osinbajo but same people call osinbajo a fake pastor

The same people that hated awolowo,abiola n now tinubu are still d same person trying to turn your back against your people,what igbos do in Yoruba land n u woke Yorubas hail them u dare not do half of it in their region before they remove your head for u

History is about to repeat itself now,Peter obi is campaigning freely but they are issuing threats that tinubu dare not step foot into south east n u are still forming woke

Use your head n get d fact that the Fulani and the igbos are d same,the only difference is that the igbos don’t have federal power

The same people who mocked Yorubas then for being stupid on awolowo case n later said he took rat poison are still d same people who mocked abiola

Will u allow history to repeat itself by forming civil for people who never for once loved u

U think they love u now because they need your votes,many of those supporting obi today check their nairaland comments a year ago n see clearly their intention about Nigeria

Yoruba ronu a man who hates your father can never like u

The way the whole campaign strategy and agenda changes with you batified (funny name tho) shows you have a group chat lolll. Oga sell your candidates to us don't tell us who hate who. Even some Yoruba hate Yorubas so no bi by who hate who. It is about who is competent full stop.

Na kuku jagaban talk make we focus on competence

trutharena:
This is for some of the sophistico Yoruba youth that fell for the antics of Ibo people that always say they hate Tinubu not because he’s Yoruba and bla bla bla.

Awolowo was stoned when he went to the East to campaign back then and this is Pa Adebanjo the same Afenifere guy laying claim to that. Is Awolowo also a bad person like Tinubu according to the Ibos? Or why was he stoned?

Azikiwe campaigned easily in the SW but Awo was stoned in the SE for campaigning.

That’s the same thing they are doing to Tinubu. They are making sure he won’t be able to campaign in the SE, where they term any Igbo that support Tinubu as efulefu and always cancel them.

Yet the same people want to be left alone to campaign in the SW while some Yoruba guys with severe confusionists complex will be sheering them on.

The Yoruba are the only tribe in this country without tribal consciousness and it is as tho something is wrong.

I wonder how a simple matter like the choice of Nigerian in the 2023 election has become a matter of Awolowo and Azikiwe if not for the deliberate and unnecessary effort of a presumably "political maestro" to gaslight the masses with tribal bruhaha... Why the Tinubu camp keeps digging a tribal flashback when you said we should look beyond religion and ethnicity but competence is what I don't understand..... I as a person and I think a lot of other people evaluated the fact and found Peter obi competent....

After the whole political strategy of he built Lagos didn't work you want to turn this to a tribal political war...lol.. well let me tell you where it would lead

The south would lose out and Atiku would win. The north would vote the north even if you choose Ahmadu bello as your vice president...

Present facts, Convince us, show us your candidates is healthy, show us he didn't institutionalized thuggery in Lagos and made it one of the most profitable job, making role model out of miscreant, show us he didn't forfeit funds linked to drug proceeds, show us how he grew a multimillion Dollar empire out of the little salary he collected as governor (Harvard business school would have to take jottings), tell us how Lagos has been unable to complete million dollars of projects like the blue line and red line after taking so much loans when other countries are doing it in few years, let him tell us other investment he made outside econet which he withdrew in 2007 and yet has nothing to show for it, let him tell us what master plan he wants to use to develop the country because if it is the same master plan he used in Lagos and made an economic capital to be the most indebted state in the country without relative economy size I fear for Nigeria..

Answer this question then we can talk tribe

Nb -i am not ibo and I am definitely not IPOB

IamAtikulate:
Our incoming president will be live at the Redemption Camp soon and Shiloh 2022 slated for December 6 to 11 (less than 2 months to the election).

Pa Adeboye and Bishop Oyedepo will endorse Peter Obi.

Enemies of Christ, our Lord can donate their tears.
We moveeee

I don't know for bishop Oyedepo but pastor Adeboye would never endorse any candidate..

I can bet that

ScamHunter:
No one cares who you vote for but don't be a hypocrite. Adeboye, just like 70% of all Yoruba were anti Jonathan. In fact, at a point, Bishop Oyedepo had to intervene to reconcile him and Jonathan. Obasanjo and Tinubu led the political opposition to Jonathan while Adeboye led the confusion among Christians against Jonathan. Say the truth and stop whitewashing it.

When



Pls bring out the publication, picture ,any thing without that all you are doing is assuming.. and if assumption is the new fact I might just be able to say yakubu Gowon is supporting Atiku.

Throwback:
How can we even compare a trailblazer like Tinubu to a 3rd class political prostitute like Obi?

Who will be steadfast in a tough situation?
Tinubu who would stand his ground or Obi who would look for an escape route and abandon the cause?

It is no coincidence that Tinubu stood his ground against OBJ over the extra local governments he wanted to create, despite the consequences of withheld LGA funds.

It is no coincidence that Tinubu stood his ground in APC and won the presidential primary, when he could have easily succumb to defeat before the primary and run like a political prostitute to SDP or Labour Party.

While Tinubu was building human capacity regardless of religion and ethnicity, Obi was busy purging Anambra Civil Service of Igbos from Abia and Imo, and pitting Catholic Christians against Anglican/Protestant Christians.

We know who has leadership qualities, and who has the eye to identify talent and willing to mentor such talent.

Tinubu all the way to 2023 Presidency.

1) I think it is unfair to compare obi's 8yr of occasionally distractions due to litigation to APC 24 solid years of uninterrupted governance in Lagos

2) A Nigeria problem now is the unending desire to meet needs using the borrowing mechanism unfortunately the APC in Lagos is very guilty of the same thing. Lagos has greater domestic and foreign debts

3) If We are claiming tinubu is a master talent finder. I ask a question who found BUHARI?? Many buhari's ministers are tinubu loyalist most likely nominated by Tinubu. Did he lose this ability or something??

ScamHunter:
That one is hypocritical because people called him out. Somebody who fought a Christian president because his pastor was deputizing an unbeliever. We know that strategy. The only reason he wants Muslims to continue is that Obi is not Yoruba. He prefers Yoruba president that is a Muslim to any Christian no. Yoruba the same way he backed a northern Muslim against a southern non Yoruba Christian.

Every time I see such unnecessary tribalistic conclusions like this it irritates me, pastor Adeboye fought Christian government ?? Pls how. Pastor Adeboye has never been one to fight with government confrontationally. Let's stop this unnecessary tribe bruhaha

Pastor Adeboye has supported every president in this nation irrespective of tribe.. even In 2015 he prayed for both GEJ and Osinbajo on the same altar. I support peter obi however every time I read some peoples comment about him I feel we might just be jumping from one ethnical mistake to another

Chinkoalhaji34:
Is Onaiyekan a Yoruba man or not?

Yes or no? All the rest of your jargons make no sense to me.

The answer is in the jargons.. lollll
Learn to read, I know it is hard

Chinkoalhaji34:
You are saying jargons. Archbishop Onaiyekan is a full blooded Yoruba man. That he is from the Kogi part which the map placed in the NC does not remove his Yorubaness.

What we are saying is that CAN should appoint an ethnic Northerner into the topmost position OR are the Northern christian only good tool for propaganda?

Why can't they appoint a Benue/Nassarawa/Plateau/Taraba/Southern Borno/Southern Kaduna ethnic Northerner as CAN president since inception?

I am from the North Central so don't lie to yourself. Kogi is Yoruba ba, That means yahaya bello is Yoruba looolll such insincerity .. Archbishop is from Kabba, and the reason we understand Yoruba is not because we are Yorubas by origin but because of our proximity to Ilorin and some sw states

So before you say archbishop is yoruba interpret that name in Yoruba.

A man from benue and some of the states you mentioned is also from the north central.. if archbishop is not northern enough for you no one from benue or anywhere can be.

Before you cry propaganda, stop this propaganda you are pouring out. The funny thing you wrote is full blooded Yoruba man... Meaning I have Dual ethnicity, I am a fully blooded yagba man and Yoruba..loll

That an ethnic group is minor doesn't make them absent. Can you take a simple Google search for kabbas language and try to interpret it with your knowledge of Yoruba... Boss what you don't know, you don't know

blamingthedevil:
Presidency: How CAN MARGINALIZED NORTHERN CHRISTIANS
Brought nepotism to CAN presidency
Consider Northern Christian as minority, hence unworthy to be President of Christian Association of Nigeria

You are making an poorly informed conclusion sir... The CAN has elected president from representative all christian bodies across the country even the Catholic. Does that sound like equality to you??

For your information, and so you don't post a poorly researched post here again, archbishop john onaiyekan is from the North Central kogi state to be precise

Apart from this every region has a vice president, does that sound like equality to you??

Make your research bro and stop sounding ignorant

CommonSense1967:
Yes.
Most of the Indigenous people of the SW are Muslims. Even a lot of the SW Christians were previously Muslims or born into Muslim families.

Well that is true

But I guess he is talking about 40yrs reality because this is not the reality of today.. Sw is a minimum of 60% christian

Ekiti, Ondo, Lagos, osun are majorly Christian

While Oyo and Ogun are about 50% christian

Kayrich:
I mentioned this b4 and no one seems to answer me.
I assumed Atiku was a xtian and was to choose a running mate from south/south or south/east. Pls who is that Muslim he would have choose? It’s BAT now we will play politics with it because it’s difficult for him. I don’t blame him because he need to choose what can make him succeed.

Pls who was osinbajo politically before buhari chose him??

It is never because there are no competent Christians in the North. It is a politician trying to prove a point he has always wanted to prove. Is gov lalong not a christian, Is yakubu dogara not a christian,is boss mustapha not a christian etc

The vp alone is not going to deliver the region other political heavy weight would be involved. Just like 2015 Osinbajo didn't deliver the South West alone, heavy weights like tinubu, southern governors also did a major job in delivering the region

Pastorjohn2:
I have seen various posts and comments stating Christians shouldn't vote for tinubu because of his Muslim-Muslim ticket.
I'm a man of God and a born again Christian, I'm here to tell you myself and my congregation and house hold will still vote for BAT.

We're BATIFIED.
he'll turn this nation into the economic powerhouse like Lagos

Awesome choice man of God.... I as a child of God will never and can never vote for a Muslim Muslim ticket... Never

I respect your choice tho

Stillwhites:
Lite2018 cool trash you got up there.America that doesn't do christian/muslim of a thing, does it mean they don't practice inclusiveness in their politics?
Those flat heads are too annoying....They are everywhere constituting nuisance.

Funny how you can't drive a simple intellectual position without insult

I respect that you like the BAT ticket but don't make it seem like you like it simply because of competence. You do because you find a sense of inclusiveness and if people don't find that sense of inclusiveness in the ticket,it doesn't make you smarter or a better political tactician . They have a right to... Don't drive the reformation blababla to us when it is nothing but hypocrisy

Stillwhites:
Those people ehn....They better go back to akpu business and leave politics to people who are competent.

You see how you keep sounding tribalistic while saying we should forget tribe and look at competence. It seem to me as hypocrisy

Stillwhites:
Lite2018 cool trash you got up there.America that doesn't do christian/muslim of a thing, does it mean they don't practice inclusiveness in their politics?
Those flat heads are too annoying....They are everywhere constituting nuisance.

I just used that as an instance chief, that in politics a fundamental part is a sense of inclusiveness and I explained how inclusiveness is reflected in America's politics

inclusiveness is not dictated by the leader,it is dictated by the people.

Stillwhites:
Coming from a bald flat head from the south.

That you ask us to look beyond tribe and religion yet.. you keep saying "flat head and south" is kind of contradictory You know

Stillwhites:
What inclusiveness is that? If a President is a muslim his Vice must be christian.Does that define inclusiveness to you?

No... Inclusiveness is people having a sense of belonging. If we can't achieve that with a simple choice of religion (Islam and Christianity being major). How can we trust you with inclusiveness in language, in tribe, in social cadre etc.. if inclusiveness wasn't important our national assembly would involve only a section of the country.. let's not pretend that tribe and religion doesn't matter in politics. Even American society has states represented in congress.. why didn't they just choose from Philadelphia and leave California?? Or are you saying there are no more capable people in philadelphia than the California representative?? Definitely there is however they do this because of inclusiveness

We should not relegate inclusiveness while upholding competence.... It divides any society. We need the two for a progressive nation

Stillwhites:
Well, a neutral person has got nothing do with the religion or tribe of the candidates running.I'm forced to believe that this comment is coming from an Igbo person.

Nahhh... I am from the north central (kogi to be precise) based in Lagos

A neutral person would look at inclusiveness

Stillwhites:
Nigeria is at the brink of revolution which will make it a great nation.Revolution in the sense that the traditional christian/muslim or muslim/christian ticket will be revolted against.This will refashion and reform the political system in Nigeria which is riddled with corruption.This will keep Nigerian system of democracy on par with great nations like the US and the UK.

In America it doesn't matter what religion a candidate is, it's who he/she is that matters.Their political positions, agenda and past records comes into play.In Nigeria, reversed is the case.We don't look at who is the running but what religion, and that is one of the very problems that cause our set back.

Thanks to the reformation brought about by the great Buhari regime; a muslim/muslim ticket shall take over and thereby ending the traditional muslim/christian ticket.

Anyone supporting this ticket is only plaqued by the same disease they try to debunk.. it either favors them tribally or religiously. No neutral person would support this ticket knowing what it would do to our political space.