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Christianity EtcRe: Who Is The Creator?? by LogicMind: 2:15pm On Jun 01, 2012
jmoore: You are too blind to see it, thats why
when did son of god = god?
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is The Creator?? by LogicMind: 1:57pm On Jun 01, 2012
^^^^So none then.
Christianity EtcRe: Chris Oyakhilome’s Theory Of Alcoholism And Smoking by LogicMind: 1:53pm On Jun 01, 2012
I used to be happy; then I stopped smoking.

Thank doG i still drink.
Christianity EtcRe: Religion Breeds Irresponsibility by LogicMind(op): 1:50pm On Jun 01, 2012
ijawkid: Ya misunderstanding and mis-interpretation of pauls word is what has kept u deluded....................


I have explained several times what paul meant but u wouldn't listen to realy understand d import of his words......

What did paul mean when he mention slaves be obedient to ur mastershuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuh

Was he talking about christians taking slaves for themselves or that christians shuld take part in slave tradehuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuh?
When paul said slaves should be obedient to their masters, i think paul meant that slaves should be obedient to their masters.
Christianity EtcRe: Do Religious People Really Think That They Are Moral? That They Are Fair? by LogicMind: 1:47pm On Jun 01, 2012
What do you do to virus that refuses to die why trying to find the solution to finish it off?
You quarantine it.
That it what seun did to the islamic section. It has now become the most boring section on nl. i wonder what their paradise would look like.
i used to call seun all sorts of name for surrendering to their empty threats but with hindsight, i think this was a wise move. there is a need to separate the corn from the weed. despite all the drawbacks of christianity, it is not to be compared or mixed with a religion of hatred, intolerance, mistreatment, terrorism etc; not only in texts, but also in deeds.
Christianity EtcRe: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by LogicMind: 1:31pm On Jun 01, 2012
The holy bible affirms that not only are some women worse than death, in fact no woman is upright.

Ecclesiastes 7:26-29

26 I find more bitter than death
the woman who is a snare,
whose heart is a trap
and whose hands are chains.
The man who pleases God will escape her,
but the sinner she will ensnare.

27 ‘Look,’ says the Teacher, ‘this is what I have discovered:

‘Adding one thing to another to discover the scheme of things –
28 while I was still searching
but not finding –
I found one upright man among a thousand,
but not one upright woman among them all.
29 This only have I found:
God created mankind upright,
but they have gone in search of many schemes.’
Christianity EtcRe: Where Did Cain Got His Wife? by LogicMind: 10:01am On Jun 01, 2012
Buzugee used to make sense before. Now he just makes things up.
PoliticsRe: Trailer Load Of Arms Intercepted In Onitsha by LogicMind: 9:55am On Jun 01, 2012
I just wish to say a big thank you to Ralph Uwazuruike and others for all the efforts and sacrifice they are making for us.
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is The Creator?? by LogicMind: 8:28am On Jun 01, 2012
jmoore: You can't separate God the father from God the son. Verses in the bible made it clear that Jesus is God, he is worthy to be worshiped too.
Which verses in the bible made this clear?
Christianity EtcRe: Where Did Cain Got His Wife? by LogicMind: 8:10am On Jun 01, 2012
Back to topic.
If you read the book of Jubilees, it says that Cain married his sister Awan and she gave birth to enoch. Her name was Awan.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/jub/jub16.htm
Christianity EtcRe: Where Did Cain Got His Wife? by LogicMind: 7:06am On Jun 01, 2012
buzugee: its like de ja vous all over again. i think you need a kiddie bible that is straightforward and does not read like a pulp fiction script of flashbacks and then present day scenes. you need a straightforward kiddie bible because this is the second time you have been stumped on similar issues. whatever you see in genesis 2 vs 4 onwards is a flashback. this is what i am trying to tell you.
I had a kiddie bible when i was a christian. It is called my book of bible stories. given to me by a kind jehovah witness man. full of beautiful illustrations and nice stories. but mostly twisted narratives. I think you are still attached to such narratives even in the presence of contradicting evidence.

I know that genesis 2 vs 4 onwards is flashback. It fuckin' says so ffs. It even took out time to say flashback to exactly when.

You refuse to answer a simple question: What day was Genesis 2:5-6 talking about?
Christianity EtcRe: Where Did Cain Got His Wife? by LogicMind: 11:44pm On May 31, 2012
buzugee: adam is man. adam simply means 'created from the ground'
here you go again answering the question that was not asked. Are you a politician?

For clarity, here we go:

Genesis 2:4-7

When the Lord God made the earth and the heavens— 5 and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no man to work the ground, 6 but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground— 7 the Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

what situation is described in verses 5 & 6?
here:

Genesis 1:9-13

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds. ” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning —the third day.


So what do these to passages tell us?
1- god created earthly waters and vegetation on the same day. the third day.
2- god created adam in between these two creations. So adam could not have been created any other day but on the third.

Waters first, adam next, then vegetation.

It is there in black and white. Anybody can open their bible and read it. It may not fit the popular narrative but that's what the bible says.
Christianity EtcRe: Final Dagger To The virgin birth Crap by LogicMind: 11:27pm On May 31, 2012
buzugee: convoluted yet practical reasoning.
cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Where Did Cain Got His Wife? by LogicMind: 11:26pm On May 31, 2012
buzugee: man was created on the sixth day. not third day as you said.
why are you behaving like a chriatian hypocrite?
my question was about adam: Which day was adam created according to genesis 2?
Christianity EtcRe: Final Dagger To The virgin birth Crap by LogicMind: 11:04pm On May 31, 2012
buzugee: so why do you remain an atheist if you love the bible so much ?
You don't understand. The bible made me an atheist. I need the bible to remain in my atheism. The day I abandon the bible, I leave myself open to interpretations (brainwashing) of other men. That is a road i don't want to travel back to.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Did Cain Got His Wife? by LogicMind: 11:01pm On May 31, 2012
buzugee: you miss the point just as you missed the point in that question you asked yesterday. the bible has this thing it does a lot called re-iteration. it reiterates what it has already said. genesis 1 vs 27 is when humans were created both male and female. and then it goes on to reiterate and expand on the process of human creation in genesis 2 vs 7. now see how it says in chapter 2 vs 4 that it was going to give an account of what has happened so far and hence why the creation of man re-emerged in 2 vs 7 from 1 vs 27
Sounds convincing except that the bible was unambiguous about the chronology of creation; the day man was created and the day adam was created.
Why don't you tell me which day adam was created if not on the third day according to genesis 2?
Christianity EtcRe: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by LogicMind: 10:47pm On May 31, 2012
Going back to barren women. God eventually opened the wombs of most these women.
However, all the wombs that were opened were to bear...you guessed it: boys. males only.
God does not open a barren womb in order to get a baby girl. Never!
Christianity EtcRe: Where Did Cain Got His Wife? by LogicMind: 10:42pm On May 31, 2012
buzugee: in that case i think you need another bible cuz the one you got done lied to you. either that or you were drunk on shekpe when you read it
In genesis chapter 1, we were told of how god chronologically created things in six days. He created vegetation on the third day. The last thing he created was man on the sixth day.
In genesis chapter 2, we were told that adam was created before vegetation but after the streams. Remember that vegetation was created on the third day.

You see:
Adam created on the third day, after the streams and earthly waters were created but before vegetation was created.
Man created on the 6th day after everything else, including Adam, was created.

Two different beings.

I don't see how you can say that adam was the man in genesis 1:27. The bible is clear enough. Maybe you need to change yours or stop drinking shekpe. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Final Dagger To The virgin birth Crap by LogicMind: 10:33pm On May 31, 2012
buzugee: Logic Mind i gotta thank you for that powerful scripture. that has been added to my arsenal. that genesis 24 : 16. you dont know the magnitude of that verse.
I love genesis.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Did Cain Got His Wife? by LogicMind: 9:40pm On May 31, 2012
buzugee: you are an atheist, remember ? you are not supposed to believe in this stuff, remember ? what are ya a double minded man ? you do know what the scriptures say about a double minded man right ? JAMES 1 VS 8 A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways. so i guess the question is why should we attach gravity to the opinion of a double minded man like yourself ? grin
I am not giving an opinion, but pointing out what the scripture says.
i don't know why people always say something else when the bible is very clear.
i don't believe it as you say, i'm just letting people see what they say they believe in.
Christianity EtcRe: Which Are You? by LogicMind: 9:09pm On May 31, 2012
whatever
Christianity EtcRe: Which 3 Books In The Bible Do You Love The Most by LogicMind: 9:06pm On May 31, 2012
buzugee: holy crap...esther ? lol. now thats a new one. i have never in my life heard anyone quote a verse from esther. grin grin
here:
Esther 9:5-17

5 The Jews struck down all their enemies with the sword, killing and destroying them, and they did what they pleased to those who hated them. 6 In the citadel of Susa, the Jews killed and destroyed five hundred men. 7 They also killed Parshandatha, Dalphon, Aspatha, 8 Poratha, Adalia, Aridatha, 9 Parmashta, Arisai, Aridai and Vaizatha, 10 the ten sons of Haman son of Hammedatha, the enemy of the Jews. But they did not lay their hands on the plunder.

11 The number of those slain in the citadel of Susa was reported to the king that same day. 12 The king said to Queen Esther, “The Jews have killed and destroyed five hundred men and the ten sons of Haman in the citadel of Susa. What have they done in the rest of the king’s provinces? Now what is your petition? It will be given you. What is your request? It will also be granted.”

13 “If it pleases the king,” Esther answered, “give the Jews in Susa permission to carry out this day’s edict tomorrow also, and let Haman’s ten sons be hanged on gallows.”

14 So the king commanded that this be done. An edict was issued in Susa, and they hanged the ten sons of Haman. 15 The Jews in Susa came together on the fourteenth day of the month of Adar, and they put to death in Susa three hundred men, but they did not lay their hands on the plunder.

16 Meanwhile, the remainder of the Jews who were in the king’s provinces also assembled to protect themselves and get relief from their enemies. They killed seventy-five thousand of them but did not lay their hands on the plunder. 17 This happened on the thirteenth day of the month of Adar, and on the fourteenth they rested and made it a day of feasting and joy.
Christianity EtcRe: Final Dagger To The virgin birth Crap by LogicMind: 8:56pm On May 31, 2012
buzugee: now lets look at that statement. it says A VIRGIN ( MEANING SHE WAS UNWED ) and then it goes on to say 'NEITHER HAD ANY MAN KNOWN HER' this obviously is another separate statement. these are two statements. dig ? so the two statements will go like this 'she is unwed, and no man has ever slept with her' GERRIT ?
We are saying the same thing here. The bible calls a virgin any damsel that may have fvcked the whole neighbourhood but remains unmarried.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Did Cain Got His Wife? by LogicMind: 8:52pm On May 31, 2012
buzugee: Yezzur, a more logical and realistic one.

ADAM is not the name of one person , just like ESAU is not the name of one person, just like ISRAEL is not the name of one person. The bible operates on dichotomy. while those are the names of one person, they refer to a nation of people. lets take for example

matthew 15 vs 24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel ( now israel is one person but in this instance it is used to describe a nation of people )

here is another example romans 9 vs 13 Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated while these are individuals names, these refer to a nation of people. anytime you see jacob in the bible, it is refering to a nation of people. and esau is a nation of people too.

adam is a nation of people. adam is not a mans name but a name meaning this people are formed from the ground. adam is culled from adamah which means from the ground. adam is a nation of people formed from the ground.

lets look at this verse genesis 1 vs 27[b] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.[/b] even though adam is called him, it actually is talking about a bunch of sexes of people cuz it says 'male and female'. and it says 'them' and at this point in time 'eve'had not been made.

genesis 1 vs 28[b] And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.[/b] so God told THEM to subdue to earth and have dominion over the sea. who are the them ? you dont call one man 'them' ? do you ? keep in mind 'eve' had not been formed. so you have to go to genesis two before eve was made and yet he is talking about them subduing the earth on the fifth day. the 'them' is the first nation of people formed called 'adam'
Sorry buzugee to burst your bubble but genesis 1:27 is not talking about adam at all.
Adam was created on the third day
Other men (male and female), were created on the sixth day.

They are already confusing enough and christians are confused enough. Please don't add to the confusion.
Christianity EtcRe: Final Dagger To The virgin birth Crap by LogicMind: 8:32pm On May 31, 2012
buzugee: see, you have been discombobulated by seducing spirits. thats all that is. everything you wrote is irrelevant if you take into consideration the meaning of the word 'virgin' before it got lost in translation by the catholic church.

vir·gin   [vur-jin] Show IPA
noun

2.
an unmarried girl or woman.

now we all know fornication is when you sleep with someone without marrying them because according to Gods laws, whomever you sleep with, you must keep as your wife. therein lied the trepidation of joseph. EXODUS 22 VS 16
And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.[/b]so joseph was compelled to mary her.
Just adding that Genesis 24:16 also makes a distinction between a virgin and a girl that has laid with a man. They are two separate beings. see the "neither".

[b]Genesis 24:16

And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Christianity EtcRe: Final Dagger To The virgin birth Crap by LogicMind: 8:29pm On May 31, 2012
solidbroda: are they not all from Abraham? ok...Adam?
Well, that makes mary your relative.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Stirs Up Controversy With Raunchy Poster by LogicMind: 5:45pm On May 31, 2012
this is one pastor that understood the game.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Mary Remain A Virgin After The Birth Of Jesus? by LogicMind(op): 5:41pm On May 31, 2012
italo: Why don't you ask your friend? Or are you scared of him?
you always come to threads to criticise. never to provide answers.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Killed In Rattlesnake Attack During Church Service by LogicMind: 5:15pm On May 31, 2012
one less hypocrite to worry about.
Christianity EtcRe: How Has God Answered Your Prayers by LogicMind: 5:09pm On May 31, 2012
i prayed to know him more.
he answered.
now i know him.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Mary Remain A Virgin After The Birth Of Jesus? by LogicMind(op): 4:37pm On May 31, 2012
Ptolomeus: Virgin Mary was born without sin (Only Catholics say this) ...
She married, but still remained virgin.
She never had sex with Joseph (her lawful husband), but what was with the Holy Spirit (yet remained a virgin, or the holy spirit not penetrated)
She had several children, all brothers of Jesus, but remained virgin.
After the first birth of their children, also remained virgin ...
One imagines how it was that birth?

There are people who believe in all this ...
Not understanding how the shepherds and false prophets, who live at the expense of the fools, the fools who believe this sort of thing?
Artificial insemination and caesarian section can do wonders. you just have to believe because science (yes, science again) tells us it's possible.
Christianity EtcRe: God Will Prove To You Today That He Has Not Forgotten You. by LogicMind: 4:34pm On May 31, 2012
Jenwitemi: God will prove to you today that he has become very affordable. Special sommer tithing rate offer of 5% instead of the old 10%. How about it? APPLY NOW!!!! grin
Sounds like a bargain seeing the millions he is going to throw my way later cheesy shocked
where do i pay? grin grin grin grin

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