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Since you've succeeded in seeking our honourable attention, we'll give you a little of it. Ira furor brevis est...anger is but a brief madness, and everyman is susceptible. But going as far as ctrl C and ctrl P a clear-cut articulated lie, from some mischievous source just lends credence to your hate and envy for the atheists. My advice is that you pull yourself together and accept the truth that your god does not have any rational reason whatsoever to exist.

Logicboy03: OUCH....


Frosbel not nice

don't mind the clown. He was waiting for us to bed. He will then summon all his fellow hounds...ijawkid etal, to surreptitiously plant their evil seedy comments, such that by the time we're awake by the morrow, the page will have reached 30 pages...full of ad baculum stuffs...ish!

tevinsolt: i think we all agree there's no absolute morality without God and relativism is unlivable.

you and who agreed? So many clowns full nairaland o!

^^^ anyway, just doing some routine check, to see if the anti-atheists have come to plant their evil seedy comments. They usually do so during the night hours...i'll take a watch tonight~~~slouches on my sofa~~~touch light in hand~~~takes a sip of the holy liquor~~~sighs~~~eyeing the enemies~~~

plaetton: May almighty Yahweh help Mr Davidylan,Phd.

i don't think so. The guy is beyond repair.

wiegraf: Regardless, you made no point, just an appeal to emotions. It's also your subjective opinion, you assume all other women would feel the same way. It's a bit insulting for you to force your view on them. You think it isn't an organ? Then it should be able to survive without your blood, etc or any test tubes, incubators etc, no? There's no problem if it's taken out then.

Even if this fetus/baby was some magical being that could grow on its own, each individual woman makes her choice. It's her body, not yours.

thank you plenty. Btw, if (un)virgin Mary J had extirpated that bæstard J, she wouldn't have birthed a rogue she couldn't contain. Some abortions are just too overly damn necessary!

Shokoloko: I made a glorious point. Have u been pregnant before?

do u rly need to ask this? Someone is not pregnant before does not mean someone does not understand the logic of childbirth. Failed logic there!

wiegraf: Turning them into street hawkers, not sending them to school, etc, frankly neglect like these should be criminal offenses...

is the worst of humanitarian evils!

Obinoscopy: Fine! Let abortion be legalised.

However let the woman see an ultrasound image of her baby and hear her baby's heartbeat before signing the abortion authorization papers. If she's human I don't think she'd sign it. If not, then its better the baby don't have a devil for a mum.

sorry, but you're not just good at sarcasm. Keep trying...

yunafa: haba, respect the president for he is not our mate pls.

LMAO! You're damn right! He's not our mate indeed. Shio!

wirinet: This abortion debate has been overflogged on this nairaland religious section, just like tithes, so the arguments are just being recycled.

I have said it again and again that nobody has the right to dictate what a woman does with her body. I mean a young, free and single legal adult woman. It might be painful for the theists to accept but you cannot hold others to your own personal moral prejudices and preferences. As long as she is within the confines of the laws of her society (that is in secular societies).

It is laughable when someone refer to abortion of a baby to murdering of the baby. They need to check their dictionary to learn what it means to abort a process.

Even in commonsense English, when a woman discovers she is pregnant, she say i am going to have a baby, and not i already have a baby. A pregnancy becomes a baby the second it leaves the mothers body and is capable of independent existence. Till then it is an organ like any other organ in her body. And can decide to remove it if she does not want it. She can even decide to remove the whole womb or her breasts if she chooses. It does not affect onlooking strangers in anyway.

Some take the moral high ground of questioning the sexu.al life of others. What is you concern about who others decide to sleep with? As long as it is done within the confines of their private spaces, and the consequences is their to bear and does not affect others, then it is non of your business.

If you decide to wait until your thirties before having se.x, good for you. But someone who decides to do it at the legal age of 21 owes you (or your god) no apologies.

thank u. U just earned my like.

berem: was that why you quoted the whole topic? Dammit!

i wonder o! The thing vex me no be small!

nku5: obama is laying a nice foundation for the anti-christ described in the book of revelation.

will you keep shut there! And who is the christ, who is the anti?

[quote author=acidosis™] *shocked*[/quote]better call a doctor and don't die of shock!

Some people are just damn greedy!

And why should I become a billionaire, in a world full of poverty?

frosbel: So what's the conclusion, that atheists have higher morals , lol.

before nko!

ACM10: There are many other indication to determine if foetus is under stress.

In science, common sense does not always apply.

Finally, how do you respond to stress if your mouth is gagged with your hands tied to the back?

please stop this kill-me-I-stand attitude. You talk of stress of the foetus, precipitating its kicking...bla..bla...bla. So, when the baby is eventually born and placed on a cradle, why does it still stretch, kick...is it still under stress? Stress or no stress, your assumption that the foetus is conscious of its life is flawed. You'll also have to answer for the neurological state of that foetus...does it have a brain yet? If it does, is the brain developed enough to percieve or be conscious of its enviroment? And by the way, that analogy(about I being gagged) is incongrous, because i'm fully conscious of my state.

davidylan: 1. It goes against nature.The idea for sex being primarily for procreation...
.

when i asked if u were schooled yesterday, you almost cried and now, see yourself. How could you do this? So nature tells you or mailed you that homosexual is against her. Or that the core projection of sêx is procreation. So, barreness/infertility is also against the law of nature and should be scrapped, since it involves sêx that can never procreate. How daft of you davidylan!

davidylan: Are you kidding me? Lord babs asking someone else to "stop being evasive" and answer his questions? The same ignorant oaf who could not define morality yesterday before descending into a cloud of incoherent blustering?

fööl! I defined morality for you in my finest way, 'I'm not very intelligent to comprehend your grammar' would have solved your querulousness and sheer naivety, but you persisted in your cretinoid trite 'you haven't defined morality'. Idiöt!

ACM10: YES! There are signs which indicates that foetus is conscious of its life. Some of them are:

foetal heart rate

foetal kicks

etc.

But we should not attach sentiment to the issue of abortion. The issue should be left for women to decide. Cos women will ultimately bear the brunt of raising the kid.

look, i may not be a good biology student, but i've got my educated guesses and common sense. So, be sincere with me here. That the heart of a fetus beats or its legs kick, is biologically not an indication that the fetus is conscious of its life, but an indication that there is a life. So, don't mix-up things.

Burch: No taya ooooo! I'm learning free of charge from u all. Abi make i send lucozade boost for u. Lol

buy me vodka or bourbon instead. Na small pikin dey gorge lukewarmzade.

[quote author=*Kails*]wow...you sound ungrateful.
you know how many people were robbed of their lives and here you are wishing your mom aborted you?

na wa for some ppl sef!! [/quote]lol! One spectacular quality about we atheists is that we hardly vie to greedily grasp life, inspite that we don't believe in hereinafter bliss. Ironically, the theists who believe in afterlife and always crave for life eternal ahead, exude this ginormous greed to live, and at all cost. The funny naija pastors went further to install security gadgets, upon bokoharam threats, and start frisking worshippers before entering church premises. They call it 'security consciousness'. What an awful gimmickry! Some of these pastors even have personal security details...to guide and guard them from enemies. What happens to their assigned holy spirits and malaikas? Are all these a good emblem of a good morals(at least christian-wise)? Shît happens indeed!

tevinsolt: Tell me wats wrong with a God that gave you life in is universe, and gave set of rules to follow, and failing to do so will land you in a place of separation from him....cuz think about it, you've never sought him all your life he is not going to force you into.

you make me laugh! First, can u prove your god gave me life in the universe? Second, assuming your god gave me life, na who send am?

idtreasures: [img][/img]
Abortion is Evil.
Abortionists are murderers.
The worst thing to happen
to any Man, Woman, Girl or Boy
is to lose his or her Soul.
Do not do it.
Do not partake in it.
Do not encourage it.

sharaap there hound!

ACM10: What I explained above is the repiratory physiology of foetus and newborn babies. This is not biology.

You can proceed with the concept of soul. I will be mot willing to learn.

look, whether you do biology or mamalogy no concern us, logic senior your biology. So, is the foetus ever conscious of its life?

wiegraf: So because he put it in there he has the right to tell her what she should do with it?

I leave something in your car, I now have the right to tell you where you go, how you service the car, etc?

The only person (I would suggest) she has to consult, supposing she's not a minor, is a qualified physician (or sadly, some sort of board, as there are doctors know to be unprofessional because of their religious beliefs). He would ascertain that no harm would come to her and should also make sure she's aware of all the options available (like say adoption, test tubes, whatever)


Random and irrelevant, as this issue really is solely about the woman and it being her body:
I think the golden rule is flawed, but that's another story. Quite a few people wish they had never been born, or would if they knew better. Who are you to speak for them?
And even for late terms, when does a baby begin to show signs of any self-awareness? Even if it might sound harsh, it's certainly not at birth. At that stage it's no different than a goat. In fact, certain full-grown primates would qualify as more 'human' than the baby. So it's not like the baby can 'choose' to live. If it has a soul, pls show it to me? As we obviously have to draw a line somewhere birth is acceptable.

thank you. Even me sef don sincerely challenged my mama before say why she no abort my pregnancy. She com born me for inside dis damn world of confusion. Haba!

tevinsolt: a mad is a psychologically disabled individual....someone like dat shouldn't be allowed to roam freely...they be taken care of

stop being evasive! Answer the damn question!

tevinsolt: No kids are still developing

such is the case of your wanton god, boiling the fish with water after extricating the fish from the same water. Please, don't emulate such indecent god. It is treacherous!

Logicboy03: this is the problem with many christians. You came here insulting me and other non christians with your bible based opinion.


How can yo tell me that righteousness and morality is only through christ?

Doesnt that mean that all non christians are immoral?

funny enough, the same christ that sets precedence for their archaic morality was, in his days, a criminal, a rogue jew, a convict, a felon, a goon, and a filthy traducer!

Ban religion...abortion becomes sensible and legal...less bæstards...more food for the poor...a quantum leap in economy.

blink182: My God idiotic? This fight is bigger than me and you deserve whatever misfortunes coming your way.

your ad baculum has no lilliputian effect on a brave atheist like me...So keep the distance...