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bemeruca:
lordreed, the irony is that many people who are okay with lawfully killing a baby have problems when it comes to lawfully killing a criminal.

May be because the ramifications are on a much larger scale? But you'll have to ask them.

bemeruca:
I hear you... How do you unlawfully kill a Lice or a Zygote?
Homicide is an act in which a person causes the death of another person.

not Zygote to Fetus or lice or a Tick.

A baby is killed lawfully but why are people trying to tell us it is not a baby that is being killed and try to tell us it is a fetus or a zygote?

Not sure why I need to repeat that i have already given you an example.

A fetus or zygote isn't a baby, just like a baby isn't an adult.

bemeruca:
thank you. Have you noticed how people try to argue it is not human? that is my problem. they dehumanize it because they want to kill it. LAWFULLY

We lawfully kill humans all the time, heck look at you advocating for Israel to kill people.

bemeruca:
is a brain dead person a fetus or a tick or lice? a brain dead person is a person. Where are you going with your train of thought?
to make your argument less absurd you substitute a person for a patient

A fetus many not have personality like a brain dead person but it is still HUMAN.

I never used homicide for tick or lice. Try to keep up.

bemeruca:
absurd argument. let's just say I did that, will it be homicide? or they can charge me for vandalizing private property?

Dude use your eyes, UNLAWFUL KILLING.

bemeruca:
how do you unlawfully kill a parasite?

A fetus is not a person, they debate when personhood starts, and they discuss human rights against the unborn when they want to kill it. but once a criminal kills a woman suddenly the fetus is a human, a person with rights... DOUBLE HOMICIDE

I just gave you an example.

Do you think you can unlawfully kill a brain dead patient and claim it isn't homicide?

bemeruca:
How is killing a woman with pregnancy double homicide then?

What part of UNLAWFUL killing do you not understand?

bemeruca:
you can unlawfully kill a fetus, zygote, tick, or lice? Wow

Yep. Go destroy ticks being used in a lab whether you won't be sued for every penny you own.

bemeruca:
At least Bill Maher has the courage to call it MURDER and he is a liberal who supports abortion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQvB55pAFy0

Sorry to burst your bubble but Bill Maher is wrong.

bemeruca:
Of course, Homicide is an act in which a person causes the death of another person.

you guys said it is a zygote, a fetus, not a person, a parasite so how is it a double homicide? If I kill a lice or a tick will it be considered homicide?

It doesn't matter if it's a flea, you killed UNLAWFULLY. Wasn't it y'all that was running mad cos imaginary pets were being eaten?

bemeruca:
Suddenly you trust Russia hahahahaha

Suddenly you don't trust Russia Bwahahahahahaha!

So how is it propaganda though?

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bemeruca:
more propaganda for the desperate

How is it propaganda when Russia has confirmed it?

bemeruca:
Its a double homicide if you kill a pregnant woman

Because you killed UNLAWFULLY.

basilico:
I'm a nuisance. I put that up to prove it. 2/3 of what I ever wrote pleased someone. How about you?

Yes, a nuisance boasting of Internet points. LoLz.

No, nuisance, I don't boast about Internet points.

basilico:
I can boast 8000 likes out of 12.5K posts.
Hmmm. I'm unwanted here.
By people who support abortions .

LMAO! Look at a full fledged adult rejoicing over Internet points. Bwahahahahahahahaha!

kkins25:
We already have mandates for other vaccines. The Vaccine in that context was COVID vaccine.

That's just one of the theories often used.

As long as you know I didn't use it.

Yes, I'm aware. Our society is predominantly Christian and Muslim now, and the values have changed.

You are aware yet you said it is a new thing. So what if our society is now predominantly Christian and Muslim now, and the values have changed, how does that change history?

basilico:
CBS 60 minutes took 36 hours to upload video of Kamala Harris interview. They edited out her word salads,
What kind of journalism is this? There should be repercussions.

Remember Kamala’s word salad answer about Israel on 60 Minutes? It’s gone.

This is what many Americans will now see. pic.twitter.com/H4w7btDv6x

— MAZE (@mazemoore) October 8, 2024

This is the edited full version CBS uploaded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJys7OVH24E

Why this should be allowed beats me.Alvin Bragg case Trump was accused of the crime of killing a story from being published . It was a crime to deny voters the right to make their choice , according to the sham trial.
We have not forgotten how they killed the laptop from hell story.
Jackboot also charged Trump with a conspiracy to deny voters their right of votes to be counted as though there were no grounds of coordinated and massive fraud.

So you've seen the unedited version? Where did you see it if so?

kkins25:
"You" as in me? or "You" as in Republicans, or "You" as in "anti-vaxers" or "You" as in Liberals?

I certainly know I'm me and me is Liberal.

I don't know where I opposed vaccine mandates. Afterall, I have vaccines running through my viens and watch in horror as a certain demographic who refused to take them keep producing kids with body deformities---of the outrageous kind. To top it off, these kids were inbreeding. It's a horror house!

Like I said, I can go to the pharmacist and demand for prescription drug without a prescription, but society exercises it's autonomy over mine. Suppose we were on the brink of extinction, pro-abortion laws will also be revoked and society becomes pro-life. That's just the way it is.

Abortion, in our society isn't the norm. Since it's an new development, it's up to it's champions to come up with arguments to convince society to accept it. Either that or they employ the governments autonomy to enforce it.

You can't enter building and tell somebody who believes babies are gifts from God that the "baby is like a parasite." Haba!

That argument won't cut it.

Ah, ok. I thought it was you who said back in Covid19 era that you didn't support the vaccine mandates.

Are you strawmanning me? Did I ever use the word parasite to describe the fetus?

Humans have been performing abortions since the prehistoric age when we only had herbs to aid us so no abortion is not a recent development.

IMAliyu2:
I've seen this floating around.
So, what's the deal with conservatives and raw milk this time?

Is this some kind of psyop to get these people to die of self inflicted food poisoning?

6,000 likes for a clearly misinformed post. MAGA.

IMAliyu2:
I've seen this floating around.
So, what's the deal with conservatives and raw milk this time?

Is this some kind of psyop to get these people to die of self inflicted food poisoning?

Might be the same tactic 419ers use to weed out rational people so that those that remain are easier to con.

bemeruca:
I did not admit it. you are doing what you are accusing me of. If I tell you to quote where I said you did not write "it was good for the nazis" can you? you will say response implies you did not say it. that is how I saw your post.

See what I said:

See what you replied:
Me:


See your reply:


this reply implies that it was okay for Nazis to kill the jews because there were no laws stoping them from doing it.

I no where wrote it was good for the Nazis and I have repeatedly written that I said no such thing so if you want to keep strawmanning what I have repeatedly clarified then that's on you.

There is no such implication. You are conflating LEGAL with GOOD and that's on you. Legal is not always synonymous with good, you should have this always in your front pocket.

IjeBos:
His intrinsic value argument is based on Christian beliefs. Christianity is also the basis for what I can tell most if not all of his argument. It's the same form of "liberalism" that fueled the Catholics pro-life movement in the 70's.
Christians believe humans are created from the image of God and for HIS purpose. Hence the intrinsic value.

Mmmm. It's what Maeve7 said that got me thinking they may be conflating separate ideas or even coopting the survival instinct into their beliefs.

bemeruca:
Honesty
Compassion
Respect
Integrity
Fairness
Responsibility
Love
Courage

Not intrinsic. Not even by a longshot.

bemeruca:
please tell us what the below mean

OK so you admit I didn't write that it was good for the Nazis.

We were talking about the definition of murder. YOU brought up a definition that included the the word unlawful so I was pointing out to you that there was no legal impediment within the Nazi state to them killing the Jews. I never said it was good. I never said it was right. All I did was point out the path of their actions.

And once again, to clarify that this was all to aid my subjectivity argument, I contrasted the Nazi actions with that of the Allies, who definitely held the Nazis as murderers.

And to go back even further I wasn't even the one who brought up the Nazis.

Maeve7, budaatum

It occurred to me that they might actually be referring to our instinctive drive for survival. But I don't consider that an intrinsic human value, it's a biological imperative like hunger pangs. What do you think?

bemeruca:
so there is intrinsic human values?

Rhetorical answer: how can it be intrinsic if it requires the human mind to conceive of it?

bemeruca:
where did I strawman you? you said that. do you want a direct quote?
you didn't ask if Nazis killing the Jews broke any law? so it must be good if no law was broken. Lying should be morally good because it is not against the law to lie?

If I am wrong, layout what you mean by what you said.

Yes directly quote where I said it was good to them.

bemeruca:
SMH

I just hope as it is shaking, it's absorbing some knowledge.

bemeruca:
You don't seem to get what I am saying.
lordreed was saying what if what the nazis did are good to them, and if they broke any laws. I said The whole world see that what they did was bad and they also knew what they did was bad which is why they tried to hide it.

So the question I am asking you is legit. When a person says he sees murder as a good thing, is it a good thing because he said so? or will you look at what he did as good because he said so? The answer is NO hence, "you shall know them by their fruits" That verse is talking about detecting what is evil and what is not. it is not the one doing the evil that will decide if it is evil or not. this is common sense.

For Andromeda's sake where do you get off strawmanning what I wrote in plain English? Where the hell did I say it was good to them?

bemeruca:
It sounds like? that is what you understand. i cannot help you with that with that. all I can say is, with your view of morality, One can kill a person because that is his truth and you cannot fault him for his truth.

You should read screenshot below and take note of the underlined words.

budaatum:
He will murder people but he is not a murderer.

I want a red bag but I don't want the bag to be red. SMH.