tctrills: I have already given you one reputable site a very liberal sites and a snap shot from my search result.
I will provide the CDC link on one condition. After you learn that the number 1 killer of young African American men in the US age 14 to 34 is homicide, you will apologize to me and promise here on nairaland never to be lazy again and that you will always carry out your research before typing.
tctrills: At least do a proper research. I said the leading cause of death among young black males. Here is the stats from the CDC. For Black males aged 15–34, firearm homicide rates are significantly higher than any other cause of death, including accidental injuries or health-related issues like heart disease.
tctrills: This boy. You could hate the whites for all you want but the truth remains. The leading cause of death of young black men in the US is gun shot from another black man. That is the culture of wild beasts.
When we ask blacks begin to tell ourselves the truth that's when we will begin to make changes.
Let's look at abortions. A black baby is 4 times more likely to be killed by his own mother in the womb than a white child.
This is the culture of murder. It's an evil culture. And it can't be blamed on the whites. Blacks did this to themselves
This is what I am talking about with misinformation campaign. You've been brainwashed into thinking that "The leading cause of death of young black men in the US is gun shot from another black man." If I asked you to produce the data that supports this now you will start chewing mouth.
Meanwhile, here is data from 2021. Homicides are the SIXTH leading cause of death in black men.
baconline: The Nigerian used car market prices is going down due to low patronage. Cars that average cost 4.5m now sell for less than 4m, no one is still buying. Its sad, the economy has really taken a heavy hit, Nigerians are on survival mode and have no money to buy cars.
Where is this place that the price of cars is going down abeg tell me.
My buda it seems believing is very potent. I want to exercise mine now. I believe Budaatum has 2 billion pounds and is going to send me 1 billion pounds. There I believe it buda therefore it must be true.
TokoEkambi: I read about it. I poi Ted it out because someone stated something in the line that he considered the UFO phenomenon bs because they always report humanoid aliens. I chipped this in to let him know it's not the case.
Then you must have a specific case since you read about it. Show me the one you read.
TokoEkambi: Trained military personnel observed the scene. They reported what they saw despite the threat to their jobs. The senior Brotish foreign affairs guy that was aware of it and took it upon himself to research deeper into the phenomenon. People don't throw their jobs in the bin for the tooth fairy.
TokoEkambi: I didn't read about the Rendlesham incident, I saw a documentary on it on Discovery Channel. One of the junior officers that were part of the forward group that actually saw those beings was interviewed. A senior officer in the British foreign service at that time was one of those interviewed. And also all the efforts at dispelling the story as done by the military authorities and the government were all part of the documentary (including a procedure to try wipe out that particular incident from the memory of the junior ranks involved). I'll look for that documentary if it's online.
What part of the documentary was compelling enough for you to think there were really aliens in the encounter.
TokoEkambi: They were reported by some that said they were abducted. If you try searching via Google you may see some material. One should be able to pick holes in made up stories there, but there may be some truth to some of them.
TokoEkambi: That write-up is part of what I call hilarious cover-up stories by the authorities. Great things can be achieved when money and threats are involved. By the way, have you read or heard about the Rendlesham Forest incident? There was a documentary on it on Discovery Channel sone years back. The evidence was so compelling, and the official scampering to cover it up was the usual response of authorities worldwide.
How is it a hilarious coverup if one of the CHILDREN recanted and said he was the source of the phenomenon by reason of a prank. You don't think children are highly suggestable and easily manipulated by even their own fellows? Do you understand the nature of peer pressure and influence?
Are you telling me ALL the governments of the entire globe are interested in covering up alien presence and not a single one thinks that information will be beneficial to them if they used it to their advantage? That there has been NO substantial leaks of this coverup despite the apparent scope of it?
I read a summary of the Rendlesham Forest incident and could find nothing compelling about it. Perhaps you can elaborate on what you found compelling.
TokoEkambi: No. The Zimbawean incident was more of greys. I just referred to the mantis type in response to someone saying encounters were always with humanoid aliens.
As an aside, I first tried to use Gemini to find this and here's what it said about us - I thought that interesting!
The debate you’re looking for likely occurred within a broader discussion on materialism, atheism, or the nature of the soul, which are frequent topics for LordReed (who typically holds a materialist/atheist perspective) and Deepsight (who often argues from a deist/spiritualist position) on Nairaland.
While a single thread titled "Can a machine be conscious?" may not be the primary landing spot, their most extensive interactions on this specific subject usually appear in these high-traffic threads:
1. "The Argument From Consciousness" In many threads within the Religion or Science/Technology sections, Deepsight often challenges the materialist view by arguing that consciousness is non-material and therefore cannot be "assembled" via hardware. LordReed typically counters that consciousness is an emergent property of biological "wetware," implying that sufficiently complex artificial hardware could theoretically achieve the same.
2. "The Hard Problem Of Consciousness" This is a recurring theme where the two users have traded long-form arguments. Deepsight often uses the "Chinese Room" type of logic to argue that a machine only simulates understanding, whereas LordReed focuses on the lack of evidence for any "extra-physical" component to the human mind.
The debates between Deepsight and LordReed on Nairaland represent one of the forum's most enduring intellectual rivalries, often serving as a "Clash of the Titans" between two distinct philosophical worldviews: Deism/Rationalism and Atheism/Materialism. Here is a comparison of their debating styles, philosophical foundations, and the "intellectual signatures" they bring to the platform. ________________________________________ 1. Philosophical Foundations
Worldview Deepsight: Deist / Transcendentalist. Believes in a necessary "First Cause" or "Infinite Intelligence." LordReed: Atheist / Materialist. Maintains that the physical universe is all there is, governed by natural laws.
Consciousness Deepsight: Argues it is non-material and cannot be reduced to biological or mechanical parts. LordReed: Argues it is an emergent property of biological processes (the "wetware" of the brain).
Logic Source Deepsight: Relies heavily on Metaphysics and abstract reasoning (e.g., the Law of Cause and Effect). LordReed: Relies on Empiricism and the Scientific Method; if it can't be measured, it’s speculative. ________________________________________ 2. Debating Style and Rhetoric Deepsight: The Classical Orator • Tone: Highly formal, often poetic, and occasionally aggressive in a "high-brow" manner. He uses expansive vocabulary and long-form essays. • • Tactics: He prefers Socratic questioning and building "logical traps" based on definitions. He often accuses his opponents of "intellectual dishonesty" if they don't follow his deductive leaps. • • The "Vibe": Intellectualist and philosophical. He views the universe as a grand, purposeful design that can be understood through pure thought.
LordReed: The Pragmatic Skeptic • Tone: Concise, dry, and clinical. He often uses short, "pithy" responses to dismantle complex arguments.
• Tactics: He focuses on the Burden of Proof. He rarely makes positive claims about the unknown, instead asking his opponent to provide verifiable evidence for theirs. He is famous for the "Where is the evidence?" pivot.
• The "Vibe": Grounded and skeptical. He views the universe as a series of observable phenomena that require no supernatural explanation. ________________________________________ 3. Key Points of Friction
The "spark" in their debates usually occurs at these three junctions:
• The "Origin" Problem: Deepsight argues that "something cannot come from nothing," necessitating a Creator. LordReed typically counters that we simply "don't know" yet, and "I don't know" is a more honest answer than "God did it." • • The Nature of Intelligence: Deepsight views human intelligence as a "spark" of the divine or the infinite. LordReed views it as a survival adaptation—highly complex, but ultimately mechanical. • • Objective vs. Subjective Morality: Deepsight often looks for an objective moral anchor; LordReed argues that morality is a social construct evolved for tribal cohesion. ________________________________________ 4. Summary of the Rivalry
In the Nairaland ecosystem, Deepsight acts as the "Philosopher-King," defending the idea that there is more to life than meets the eye through rigorous (though often abstract) logic. LordReed acts as the "Chief Inquisitor" of the religious and spiritual, using the razor of Occam’s Law to trim away any claims that aren't backed by data. While they rarely—if ever—reach a consensus, their debates are highly regarded for their civility (relative to the rest of the forum) and the depth of the subject matter.
LoLz! Not a bad summary. I especially like this part: Relies on Empiricism and the Scientific Method; if it can't be measured, it’s speculative. Some people think when I say "can't be measured" it means I am saying it doesn't exist.
Ok so like I pointed out in the referenced thread, there are going to be similar characteristics with biological life but there will be other characteristics which builogical life may or may not that artificial life may not or may have, we can only speculate right now.
DeepSight: What exactly would that mean. I mean, can life be artificial? What would artificial life be like? A copy of living things? Fake life? Exactly what?
A life whose origins are not natural i.e. created life.
Tragedy struck at Ayanfuri in the Diaso District after Nana Kwabena Okyere, Mmratehene of the Ayanfuri Traditional Area, allegedly shot himself accidentally with a pump-action gun during a funeral ceremony on Friday, 9th May, 2026.
Eriokanmi: I remembered the message of baba adeboye in one holy ghost programme like that. He said there was a year there was farmine in Nigeria. There was no rain for almost a year. Crops weren't yielding well as a result. People resulted to all manner of manipulative ways to survive. He said God told pa akindayomi to tell his wife to cook soup and get any protein they could afford inside. That the soup would serve them for long, provided they didn't look inside the pot. When warming it, they must look the other way when stirring it.
At times, pa akindayomi's wife would dip the spoon inside the pot and pack big chicken, at times big beef, in that order yet soup didn't finish neither did those divine proteins provided stop coming.
One day, papa's wife wanted do see fiin idi koko like yorubas would say. She peeped through and saw nothing inside the pot. Since then, nothing was being packed from the pot. One would keep enjoying God's grace for as long as it's not abused
Hez143: antichrist is here already,they needed something to make people accept the mark of the beast without knowing it.
Why is Ai program launch rolled out now, something that's been discovered decades ago.(ask mad muda) why was UFO files that's been classified for decades, released now why was Epstein files realized this year check the pattern,the mark of the beast will be rolled out by 2032, fully implemented by 2038 to 2040. ourtruth24/7 posts comes to mind
LoLz. All this mark of the beast nonsense una no dey rest?
Every new technology is mark of the beast. Abegi make we hear word.
NerdCat: I'm not sure why this constant mischaracterization of atheism seems to butter your biscuits, but atheism is definitionally one thing: the absence of theistic belief. That's it. Full stop. You should probably consult a dictionary before constructing arguments on foundations made entirely of sand.
Poppycock. In the entire philosophical tradition, strong atheism - the positive claim that no gods exist - is distinguished from weak atheism precisely because they occupy different epistemic territory. There's absolutely no logical basis for collapsing certainty into religiosity. And even if we entertained your baroque little redefinition, "religious in leaning" is doing considerably more intellectual lifting than you are.
Whether or not one distinguishes between spiritual awareness and organized religion is an entirely separate taxonomic question from whether gods exist. That you're latching onto semantic trivialities while the actual argument evaporates around you is rather telling.
And what's with the yawns, btw? Is assembling a coherent argument really that draining for you?
They sound like a petulant child trying to shake off the ridicule of his oversized clown shoes by pointing out how those making fun of them also have shoes. LoLz.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by LordReed(m): 6:40pm On May 14
, something that's been discovered decades ago.(ask mad muda)