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chikishpilot:
earlier this year my dad saved around 400k, he have been saving for like 2 years now, but our elder sister started having problems (sickness) the whole of the money was wasted, and this my father doesn't joke with God o, he have been seing hell, i mean i pity that man, he is getting tired day by day, how should the children of God be in shame while the so called sinners are swimming in glory living a healthy a life, i am fed up, i have to quit, not to join another religion but rather to restore my sanity, and believe reality, is time to use praying time and double my hustle

The soon you realise that religion has nothing to do with the quality of your life the better. You can be religious and have a great life, you can be non-religious and also have a great life, the common denominator is not religion.

I think people tend to overly focus on religion because they feel powerless to tackle the issues of in their life. Well that's the human experience but here is what separates winners and losers, the winners get up and do something and become happy with their successes while the losers do nothing and become more miserable. Want to know something? Not everybody is going to become Dangote or Otedola, you need to be happy with the successes you can achieve and stop judging your life by what others have accomplished. You have your own capacity, live up to it. Celebrate that your dad was able to have 400k and move on, that is what the winners do. Death will come to us all in one way or another, what really matters is how we live, not if you have a gazillion naira in the bank. I had just 1k in my wallet this morning but my kid told me as I dropped her off at school, I will miss you daddy, that to me is worth more than a gazillion dollars. Success is not always defined by how much money you have. Learn this and start your journey to a good life.

cornelboy:
"If not for Jehovah, I would have been an atheist. I grew up a Pentecostal but was always empty, God was blank and I knew nothing about him- this hole in me but they tell me I need to be born again and speak in tongues, I could not pray and I hated shouting for my enemies to die when I don't know them.

The hypocrisy was too much in Church and why will you judge me for coming late to church without ask why and seeing me drenched but you say God will put me in hellfire. I once look up at night and said ' God, you are wicked!, you don't even help us in the hellish conditions on earth and you take pleasure in seeing people in eternal torment?'.

I was determined to leave religion but I prayed to God by writing a letter begging him to show me the way or I become an atheist. I did not know how to pray so I wrote a letter and left it under a table on the pulpit and did research on all the Churches and religions of the world (including those not in Nigeria).
I was determined to even be a Muslim or Mormon if it were. All of them were no good, they preach peace by mouth but willing to kill. Why will I join any religion that claims to have God's approval and promote peace but in times of conflict, they kill one another in the spirit of patriotism and tribalism.

I happily thought of being an atheist where I can follow selfish interests and not be accountable to God but atheists are the most unhappiest people in the planet. They reflect no true joy, purpose, meaning in life. Most of them die like animals- living a purposeless and meaningless life, at old age, you know your life is purposeless and most die depressed. This is not an assumption, I made research. Their joy is ephemeral."

LoLz! Where do you people get all these things about atheists being miserable and purposeless from? I am an atheist and I am not miserable and purposeless. Do you just make this stuff up or is someone feeding you this garbage?

Dtruthspeaker:
we know what you said and what you did not say!

I doubt that. LoLz!

Dtruthspeaker:
Exactly what Satan told Eve. "You shall not die, you shall be as God" the evil said.

And in the end, they all died and suffered.

Now, this evil has come say as Satan did to Eve. Your choice, your sorrow.

LoLz! I didn't say you shall not die, is evening time impeding your understanding of English?

Unless there is some medical breakthrough that enables longevity, you'll not be realising anything 100 years from now. Dead people don't realise anything so live your best life now, there's no part 2.

Image123:
i am not blind, neither do i deceive myself. i have been around a while to see what is happening around.
As you don't, there's no need to tell you about even 1 not to talk of more.

LoLz. OK o!

BRATISLAVA:
There's nothing wrong with having a pool and children. We can't use one incident to taint something that is in almost every home with children.

There is such a thing as pool cover or just find a way to prevent the children from having unsupervised access to the pool. That is the lesson Dbanj's son's death should have taught them at the very least.

Image123:
Fortunately for you, i don't have the statistics and i refuse to. i can't help you think or see.
As for the people saved, do you believe that anyone is saved?

LoLz! Why would you refuse to have the statistics but be willing to believe? What then is convincing you?

No, I do not.

Image123:
My goodness, how can you ask such kindergarten questions? Aren't you aware that sin/crime has been more rampant and vile? Don't you know that just a century ago, people were more honest and could 'sleep with two eyes closed' generally compared to today? You don't know about the worsening security situation and crime rate all over the world. You don't know about how immorality and promiscuity is becoming more open and bold over time.

Are you unaware of the billions of people that have been "supposedly saved" in the Bible sense since Jesus came? Did you suppose that He thought everyone was going to be saved when He clearly and several times stated that narrow is the way and few will find it or that the love of many will be cold? When are you going to understand that God is not saving everybody or looking for the crowd to accomplish His plan?

Show me the statistics that crime is worsening all across the world.

How many of the 7 billion of today's world are saved by your god?

Image123:
Yes, and thieves, liars and murderers. He came because of them, remember.

Yeah so how are they getting worse? LoLz!

And isn't it funny that the so call god came to save people but instead the people became worse? Tehehehehehe.

Image123:
We seem to be in the same book but different pages for good reason. The scriptures already say evil men and seducers will be worse. He's only preaching to, protecting, prophesying to and warning his own.

LoLz! There were homosexual people before Jesus.

Image123:
"Nothing he can do about it." Who can't stop the tide?

First of all that is a different phrase. The entire sentence was meant to be rhetorical. I was not saying he was trying to stop the tide, rather he is powerless to stop it even if he tried.

Image123:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/02/anti-gay-law-ignore-us-threat-lawyers-tell-fg/

[url=This]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27933051.amp&ved=2ahUKEwjPnPKZuYz7AhWRVfEDHZyLCMQQFnoECAsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2u9u3iW5ZHyU1nUQzygvv-[/url]

And [url=this]https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-supreme-court-takes-up-web-designers-bid-rebuff-gay-weddings-2022-02-22/[/url]

You're playing the ostrich when you ask about the effects of the media. The media is asking direct questions with even presidents at every chance they get. They pump it into the education, the award winning films, the cartoons, the twist in history and biography of popular characters to portray the acceptance of vileness etc. i expect you to look for 'mistakes' to argue about and ignore the obvious. Let the "rig" begin.

LoLz! So they threatened sanctions, where are the sanctions?

LMAO! US media has been playing with all manner of controversial subjects from the earliest days of film so what exactly is new about them depicting same sex coupling? How come you aren't complaining this stridently about the depiction of guns and violence that have been a major staple in US media since forever? It's same sex coupling that is tickling your outrage. Bwahahahahahaha!

To be fair though the use of media is a well known cultural dominance tactic, even the Chinese are beginning to get into the game but cultural dominance is not the same as forcing people to be LGBTQ, that's a simplistic way of viewing it. Nations have interests and the more favourably other nations view their culture the more favourably they are likely to be treated. This is the same reason why embassies throw parties, it's not just to eat and drink but to influence their invitees to view them favourably. Also why they don't invite Mr Man on the Street to such parties, they don't really care about him because he has little to no influence. Creating a cultural acceptance of their own cultural norms is called soft power and honestly the US have used it quite well.

BTW how is the Supreme Court case forcing anybody to be LGBTQ?

komekn:
You live in a vacuum and hsvr no idea of what you are talking about.

The socio dynamic deconstruction of normality to include abnormal depravity as normality. Has changed the pillars upon which society has rested for thousands of years.

In modem times they criminalised the critical appraisal of this deviant behaviour. Even the diction is condemnatory , i.e. homophobia which in itself prevent any criticism.

In the UK if by your 12 your old child by declared himself gay , lesbian or identify with a different gender from birth.

If you are to challenge that behaviour you will be prosecuted by for child abuse and your child taken into be state care. With your parental rights extinguished into vapor.

So don't tell me nonsense about USA not creating laws to force people into LGBT.

In the UK the legal age for sexual activity is 16 but your cam change your gender at 12 and your sexual preference. Thar's simply hypocritical bigoted MADNESS.

The Nigerian government should create harsher laws to sanction the promotion and advocacy of this sick disgusting perversion.

Look at this one yarning okpats. The legal age for sex in Nigeria is 13 so what has that got to do with what we are talking about?

Is the UK now the US? Besides how is saying do not try to force people's sexual orientation now a law forcing people to be LGBTQ?

nlfpmod:
https://punchng.com/https-punchng-com-breaking-davido-and-chiomas-son-ifeanyi-is-dead/

How these people didn't learn from Dbanj's son's death is beyond me. This is some funked up kind of negligence on their part.

MFGCooperative:
I doubt this.

However, this doesn't convince someone who has never dreamt that people do see themselves in places while asleep.

LoLz! Go look up sleep studies that monitor brain activity while the subjects are asleep. Here lemme help get started: https://www.news-medical.net/health/Brain-Activity-During-Sleep.aspx
https://www.google.com/search?q=sleep+study+monitoring+brain+activity&oq=sleep+study+monitoring+brain+activity&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160j33i22i29i30.25055j0j7&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Like I said I don't need to convince him of anything, it is something he already experiences in a different form.

Image123:
Did you also read what i was responding to?

LoLz! This is pointless.

Image123:
media, sanctions and laws. If you claim not to get it, forget about it. No time for the "rig".

Nigeria criminalised same sex coupling what sanction did US impose on Nigeria? What laws has the US made that force anybody to be LGBTQ? How has US media depicting same sex coupling forced anybody to be LGBTQ?

Image123:
"Can't stop the tide." Doesn't it ring the faintest bell or it's very loud?

Do you see he in that phrase?

MFGCooperative:
You mean someone can be sleeping and thinking at the same time?

LoLz! Your brain doesn't stop working because you are asleep so yes while you are asleep thoughts are still being processed in your head.

Image123:
He's not "stopping the tide", Bible says evil people and seducers will wax worse and worse. But he can pray to protect, prophecy, direct, instruct and warn those around him.

LoLz! You just seem to be responding to something else but quoting me. Did I say he was attempting to stop the tide? Na wa o! Bwahahahahaha!

Sammy5413:
All these LGBTQ madness eh?
Can't stop processing two gays who said they adopted a son after years of barrenness
Like wtf!

LoLz! What's the difference between that and heterosexual couples who are barren and adopt?

Image123:
The Netherlands is not shoving it down people's throats, are they?

LoLz! How is the US shoving it down people's throats?

Image123:
Again, i guess you very well remember that humans don't have to behave like animals.

Did you even read what I was responding to?

MFGCooperative:
Tell me how thoughts and dreams are related. So, you mean someone who sits down to think, is already dreaming?

A dream is an imagination, an imagination is a thought, that's how they are related. When someone is lost in thought we usual say they are daydreaming because while they are in fact awake they so lost in their imaginations they are just as inattentive as someone asleep.

MFGCooperative:
We've explored the spirit realm my brother. I just used dream to bring you some ideas.

Now, take note of this. Assuming an argument ensues between you and someone who has never dreamt in his life (I've actually met several people like that) He is disputing with you that dreams don't exist. It's just a figment of the imagination. There's nothing called 'dream'. How would you prove to this person that dreams are possible?

You and who have explored the spirit realm? And where is this realm you were exploring?

Why do i need to prove to him something that is literally in his head? A dream is a thought in the head does he not have thoughts?

Dailyhappenings:
The General overseer of the Living faith church worldwide has voiced over the rise in LGBTQ in the world. During the service "Covenant Family Sunday" he reacted to the fact on same sex marriages and gender choices.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8YUjoTFNn8

Can't stop the tide, nothing he can do about it.

SmartPolician:
Those who seek to sleep with people of the same gender have a psychological problem. Same sex should never be considered as a sexual orientation.

Unfortunately, the US leads the world in research and development and has been shoving that NONSENSE down our throats. They are trying to imply they have discovered a new sexual orientation.

LoLz. The Netherlands was the 1st country to legalise it, is the Netherlands the US?

gasparpisciotta:
It is really an anomaly and against all conventional male and female alignment in plants, animals and things...

LoLz, I am guessing you didn't know animals do exhibit homosexual tendencies.

MFGCooperative:
Who's talking about your house? I'm talking about your physical body. That's your house. You'll step out of it someday.

At least you sleep and dream. What moves about when you dream? Your body?

One day, you'll be in a dream, but you'll never wake up. Pray it wouldn't be a terrible dream.

Again you have no evidence of this. You cannot step out of your body because you are your body or at least that is what the evidence suggests. There is no evidence for any sort of spirit inside the human body. If I ask you what spirit is, I doubt you can even give a cohesive answer, talk more of providing evidence for it.

I don't have terrible dreams anymore since I know when I am dreaming and I know the dream is not real. There is nothing moving about in a dream, its just in your head.

If dreams are what convince you spirits exist then you might be gaslighting yourself.

MFGCooperative:
The evidences are all around you. You're a wise man, isn't it? We don't need to argue it. You've made your choice, its okay.

LoLz! How are the walls, floor and ceiling of my house evidence for spirit or a god?

budaatum:
I think most people conflate religion with belief, and then go on to confuse themselves.

I am religious in the sense that I constantly discuss religion and read religious books and have even at a time religiously gone to church. I am however not a believer, and nothing on this earth can make me one, as believing involves the acceptance of things as so without actually doing the work in order to understand and know if what is believed is true or not.

To make it worse, many adopt the beliefs of those around them instead of studying the books for themselves in order to gain an understanding. It's why you'd see atheists, especially those who've converted from a religion, claim not to believe in gods or the god books. Why don't you believe in gods and their books, I often wonder? Should you believe in gods and their books? Would you believe a Physics book or Things Fall Apart, and would you not be doing harm to yourself if you did?

My atheism is not a lack of belief in gods. I after all know that gods are made up, so why believe in made up things when I don't even believe in physical things that I see in front of me? I don't believe in my phone, after all, despite the fact that I pick it up and use it like 100 times a day. I don't believe in my car, nor my telly nor even in the food I put in my mouth, so why would I believe in things that only exist in people's imagination?

If people seek to understand instead, I think they'd appreciate the religious books and see Jesus and Buddha and Mohammed as humanists, as in, those who cared about the welfare of those around them. Unfortunately, that aspect of religions are not what most are taught nor do they see that aspect for themselves, so instead of learning the freeing aspect of the books they read, they enslave themselves with them. That's why I don't date, I guess, though there are other reasons too, I admit. Most people I meet believe one thing or the other, which to me is rigid, and I can't make home with rigid people as I'm constantly learning and evolving. We may date, but it never takes long for me to evolve past them and leave them far behind.

I know there are no gods, and that all we read about the so called gods are the thoughts and ideas of those who wrote the books. And once one realises that fact, one can use what one has learnt to write one's own book and create one's own gods. After all, they really are just ideas and philosophies by which we choose to live our lifes, so why not make the best gods (philosophy) for oneself and worship (live by) it?

As for the spirit of things, which simply means the deeper understanding of things, as opposed to the literal surface meaning, it's the best way to look at things, I'd say, or a phone would just be a phone instead of the communicative tool it is, and food would be for hunger instead of that which nutrifies, and gods become things one bows down and worships instead of things that portray ideas to be understood and that may enhance one's own living.

Try it. Read Genesis 1-5 and tell me if it enslaves you in a Garden of Ignorance, or frees you to be fruitful and multiply and subdue and rule over such that when you say "let there be light", the response is not NEPA!

P.s. The intent of this is to provoke thought. You must not ever believe buda! If atheists understand their religious books, Jesus and Mohammed and Buddha and Einstein and Fela etc will become gods, and atheists will steal them from those who ignorantly believe in them. I tell you, greater things than they did, excluding the literal fictional walking on water that is, shall we also do.

It'll take a while for me to reach this point. I think I was too steeped in the religion to easily acquire the notion that these are nothing but metaphorical and philosophical musings designed to teach ways of living even though I accept the concept. Also religious people don't make that transition easy since when discussing with them they take my stance as proof of their own beliefs which is kind of frustrating. Anyway I hope I can one day leave that baggage behind cos as you say my dear buda, it is freeing to learn from books.