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Image123:
There are different types of thoughts/thinking. A thought can cross your mind OR you may decide to think about something.
A thought crossing your mind is like a bird flying over your head. You can avoid the frequency and nearness of a bird flying over your head. You can also avoid(with high probability) a bird pooping on your head. In plain words, thoughts may flash to you(including evil thoughts or temptation). That one is not really your fault. You can of course decide not to dwell on it or to act negatively on it.
On the second hand, you can decide to think, meditate and ruminate on something or anything. i guess that's the part you guys are talking about. i can decide that i want to think about my life, or an exam, or a speech or my neighbor's wife or sister or daughter. That's what PastorM hinted with the Job scripture. Thinking bad things in this way is avoidable especially by God's grace and even some discipline. There are people who think about sex with women they are not married to, as they are talking to them or seeing them just passing by. This is very avoidable.

You didn't answer the question. The question again: So you have never had a bad thought?

Dtruthspeaker:
After the crime has been committed in his mind, (men Rea) he is prosecutable.

So, end of the line.

LoLz! Quote the section of the criminal code that makes someone prosecutable for intent before a crime has been committed.

Dtruthspeaker:
Thoughts of crime, ARE CRIMES! Hence why I said mens rea meaning "Guilty Mind"!

After the crime has been committed. You cannot prosecute someone of mens rea before a crime has been committed.

Realbuike:
2017 I was working as an assistant manager in a very big and popular filling station.

First 6 months was really good but after sometimes, money started missing, I told my boss, he blamed me until a very reasonable amount was missing.

I was detained and accused but until Today I didn't understand or know how the money got missing . I decided not to do such work again.

I suspected my boss of using charm sha.....

Have you had such experience before?

Don't be quick to blame charm ,did you investigate your subordinates? Are they not the ones who receive the money from the customers? Did you do a proper accounting of all the money received versus your stock? Most of the time these things are due to lack of proper oversight instead of so called charms.

Speaklove:
You have asked a good question but the answer can not be gotten by merely exercising your intellect (though that's part of it ) but the truth can only be revealed or let's say "UNVEILED "

so the nest step you have to take is to seek for revelation .

God says in his word
Jeremiah 33:3
[3]‘Call to Me, and I will answer you, and show you great and mighty things, which you do not know.’

You see !

You have to humble yourself and take this step : go stand in your secret place and lift up your heart to heaven ,and then say

"I am a man who desires to know the truth.
God if you truly exist then please reveal yourself to me in a way a can understand .

Please whoever you are I desire to follow you and to walk with you in truth and in spirit .

I Do not gurantee you to get a quick reply or answer, but trust me God will reveal himself to you after he has seen the sincerity and determination of your heart .

I have heard of people who took this path and got the answers they were looking for .

I myself have ask a thing from God one night before sleeping and he showed me what I ask that same night in a dream .

But each ones experience might differ ,according to how God pleases to do .

Having said that .
Put this scriptures at the back of your heart

Matthew 11:27
[27]All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

Jeremiah 29:11-13
[11]For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope.
[12]Then you will call upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to you.
[13]And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart.

LoLz! Look up placebo effect. There is little difference between that and what you are describing here.

As far as I am concerned there is no other way to get to truth than with my intellect. On the other hand your post can be summed up as don't use the brain my god gave you, be credulous instead and believe. Which still doesn't answer the question of how we can get to truth since this suspension of your reasoning can be applied to anything. Do you realise that in other to enjoy a movie you need to be credulous for the duration of the movie? Does that make the movie script truth?

Image123:
By God's grace and Word, it is very possible.

So you have never had a bad thought?

Dtruthspeaker:
When a crime is committed, The Police must come in to ascertain guilt.

Thoughts are not crime.

Dtruthspeaker:
You are referring to actus reus.

It is man who cannot completely prove beyond reasonable doubt any guilt without "actus reus" in most cases.

But, God convict a person beyond all doubts with "mens rea" alone for He sees the hearts of men.

That is what that Law of the Commencement of Guilt and Sin and Liability is warning people.

Exactly. Human beings should not be policing other peoples thoughts.

PastorMIsBack:
Yeah but Jesus said once you have the thought, you've already done the deed

Well Jesus was wrong. I have thoughts all the time that I never act on. That is called self control.

Image123:
You used it on me.

Nope. I was never referring to you besides you jumped into the conversation so you thought I was referring to you.

Image123:
By God's grace and Word, it is very possible.

LoLz! Ok o.

PastorMIsBack:
Lol

Do not look at your neighbour's wife lustfully is not difficult It's to save you as your neighbour's husband may be a tough man.

There is no way to avoid such thoughts, what is more important are people's actions.

PastorMIsBack:
That's where my confusion lies to be honest.

I really don't know where to be based but my school thinks it could be used online hence the essay.

You could do a call in show or you do a answer your letters kind of show.

Image123:
It's your problem when you use the same myopic view on everyone. Is it okay for others to paint all atheists with the same brush stick? You have a Bible to refer to, not other people's opinions.

How did I use it on everyone?

Image123:
You been there but forgotten that obviously. That's why you hooked everyone up with someone's opinion not found anywhere in the scriptures.

Not my problem if other people interpret your bible in some way you don't agree with.

Wouldn't a chaplain need physical interaction?

Image123:
Read the Bible, you have one. There are millions of fellow believers.

Been there, done that. I am not a gatekeeper to tell people whether or not they are interpreting the bible correctly but I will tell them when they express a bad idea.

Image123:
It's unbiblical as you know, so where did you spin it from?

From your fellow believers.

Image123:
This sounds like delusions, i have no idea of what you are talking about. Definitely not me or God.

Well good for you that you don't have this particular delusion.

Image123:
It is not dissonance but different. You are not less absurd than saying everything must remain same way it was created or born. No baths, toothbrushing, no medical inputs or any other input. There was nowhere the Bible said or suggested to be or remain naked. Contrarily, there are many verses and passages about dressing.

Actually what is absurd is believing that unnatural things are against your god and yet not managing to live without them. Nobody said you shouldn't bath, use medicine or any other technology but to now turn around to condemn the same technology as being against your god is hilarious.

Image123:
You missed the vital part, the same Bible emphatically says to dress up.

No you missed the part where it is dissonant.

immortalcrown:
Examine your conscience.
Those who wear decent clothes do not tell you looking decent does not define you. But those who wear indecent clothes tell you that looking "sexy" does not define you. Non-abusers of drugs do not tell you that proper usage of drugs does not define you. But some drug addicts say drug addiction does not define you. Virgins do not tell non-virgins that virginity does not define you. But among people who got deflowered before marriage, the sincere ones respect themselves by keeping quiet, while those who are either passionate about immorality or too proud to admit their faults claim that virginity is a lack of opportunity. Among those who get pierced or tattooed, the ones that society made to see the act as a choice of fashion innocently mix with those who do not get pierced or tattooed, but some people that get pierced or tattooed ridicule or excommunicate those who do not join them.

An indecent look does not define you, but you are worried about those who look decent. Since dressing does not define you, why do you adjust your "bum shot" when you see some people? Why not leave the bum shot as it is since dressing does not define you? Drug addiction does not define you, but you need non-addicts to join you. Getting pierced or tattooed does not define you, but you are uncomfortable around those who do not do it. Virginity is a lack of opportunity, but you (an unmarried non-virgin) tease unmarried virgins and secretly look for what can restore your body to its original form. Examination of conscience.

LoLz. This is so backward its hilarious. You sanctimonious peeps are the ones constantly railing on all that you see as deviant behaviour but you turned it on its head and are accusing those who you normally revile as those who prosecute you. There is hardly any country in which those with tattoos or piercings are a majority nor are drug addicts a majority anywhere but some how they are the ones persecuting you. What a laugh.

Image123:
Because the same Bible emphatically says to dress up. What's funny about that? Isn't it funnier relating humans to chimpanzees and saying all the earth formation jokes?

Facts may seem like jokes to you but it's allowed. However the dissonance of believing a god created you naked but wants you to wear clothes of a particular sort is funny as heck. Especially for you folk who claim that unnatural things are against your god, I am yet to see a tree that has clothes as fruit or where you dig it up from. LoLz.

PastorMIsBack:
You cannot stereotype born again Christians with the points you've listed.

I agree with this statement. Generalisations can lead to a trap of prejudice. Treat people as individuals instead of simplifying their identity for your own convenience.

hopefulLandlord:
Ironic that according to Jewish mythology we were created naked. unclothedness then should be the natural order

Abi o! It's funny how those who believe a god created us naked are so stuck up on dressing.

PastorMIsBack:
Lol

I'm a hard woman

For your mind abi. LoLz.

PastorMIsBack:
Oh no. No time for dat. I eat the fruit raw as it came from the ground/tree
Thank you.

Excellent.

PastorMIsBack:
So no fruits? I always have a banana after my bike ride.

Fruits are great but don't juice them.

PastorMIsBack:
Natural sugar is different from the processed one

Still gets turned into the same thing just takes longer.

PastorMIsBack:
And he's also refused to enable blocking

You need to go to a private blog.

PastorMIsBack:
Victim card on Nairaland? Hilarious

Over here, we only play the victim card if we can get a payout from it.

I still reiterate, be respectful to other people's beliefs. It's not difficult.

If there was an atheist forum on NL, you wouldn't see me there for dust so it beggars belief why atheists often frequent religious forums to debate on an entity they do not believe exists.

One of the wonders of the world, I guess.

Have a blessed day and be respectful.

Unfortunately for us Seun refuses to open a Philosophy section which I would absolutely hang out at and abandon Religion section so here I am.

To reiterate I did not disrespect you or your views, viewing disagreement as disrespect is playing the victim card. Again that is just pitiful, juvenile even. If you can't tolerate disagreement in a public space may be you should go on to a private blog.

Gointo:
But wait you believe demons exist,and you call yourself Athiest..be sincere with yourself about that emptiness in your heart that only the lord jesus christ can fill....if you can pray a sincere prayer with the whole of your heart,call upon the lord jesus christ, if your ready to quit sin for good,,then pour out your misgiving,pour everything to the LORD and ask for mercy,and invite him into your life. you will receive revelations if you believe,he will reveal himself to you,the mistake many people make is that they read the bible and dont pray about what they read to become their reality,they just read and close it..its unbelieve,i pray the holyspirit open the eyes of your understanding and convict your heart,AMEN..i await your testimony in christ ,AMEN.
N.B: be individualistic in your approach to God, personal relationship first b4 congregational paparazi. that sunday service you go with your wife is just a waste of time..GOD want men to have personal relatioship with him,thats number 1 b4 anythin els..

LoLz!