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Nwaikpe:
So linked taht he h8ted Israel and loved the Arabs and even used the kaabaar cloth to clean nnyaash.

You have evidence of that? Show where he expressed hatred for Israel and love for Arabs.

Nwaikpe:
Which God was mentioned 22,000 times there?
Was it a mosskue?

The only thing I know is that Epstein uses the khabbar cloth to clean nyyash.
No be me talk am oh.

The god most people refer to with a capital g.

Epstein was famously linked with Israeli intelligence services so no he was not Islamic.

Nwaikpe:
This guy is God sent.

How would the world have been if God didn't send him now?

The same god that was mentioned in the Epstein files 22,000 times? That god must be a wicked god.

Obrigardo:
Alright guys, haven't we 've come full circle here?
Now the US government has basically claimed there's non-human intelligence and they've been out here

And this is to let you know some of them look like this

Dude how is Obama the US government? Besides he said he didn't see any evidence of it as president. Where did you now get the impression that the US government has basically claimed there's non-human intelligence and they've been out here?

https://youtube.com/shorts/8dvpZXv30jY?si=085DKyS8d7cyU8NM

DeepSight:
The Question of Reality

Now the question is just how "real" our reality is. At this juncture I would like to correct your notion of illusion. You should note that even a hallucination has some reality to the extent that it is an experience. Even a video game has some reality to the extent that it is experienced. Thus it seems to me that when you place the test as asking one to jump off a building and see the result, you are missing the point. That we are having an experience in this world of some kind or the other is beyond cavil, the question is just how substantial in reality that experience is. For me, it is clear that we cannot proceed without establishing what we mean by something that is properly real.

The definition I work with is something that exists in substance by itself as opposed to something which is only put on: as opposed to a set of images, feeling or sounds which are cast before the experiencer merely to experience and which can be removed in the same way as one may wake from a dream, or one may remove a VR Headset, or one may come out of a video game or a movie or the like. It is my contention that this life is similar to a contrived set of experiences cast before us but lacking in the substantiality of its own base realness.

You have to ask yourself, for the day is surely coming, when Virtual Reality technology will be so advanced as to be completely indistinguishable from our reality - you have to ask yourself if such VR experiences will thus be "real." You see, in such VR experiences there will still be cause and effect just as jumping from a building and falling down, and you could even be made to feel pain therein.

I define reality as the shared space which contains all our shared experiences and all the objects of those experiences. It will also include objects which we will eventually experience even though we are currently not experiencing them yet. You will note that by definition this does not escape solipsism and that is because I don't even give it any credence because to me there is no way to prove we AREN'T a brain in a vat. However, within the bounds of our experience this foundational definition suffices to exclude things that are not real. It also means you will have to prove that we ARE brains in a vat or any such solipsistic framework.

It also highlights the difference between reality and VIRTUAL reality. The key difference being that shared space only exists as a construct that is distinct from the space in which our "real" shared experiences take place. Another being that VR can never reach the fidelity of the "real" space because of constrains that we will further explore when we talk about simulation.

DeepSight:
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Thanks for this.

However -

1. You have a gravely wrong perception of Platos allegory. It was specifically addressing the idea that we dwell in a world of imperfect forms which are reflections of real and perfect forms. Nonetheless I hear your spin on it as I believe we are entitled to do so for any parable or allegory. You are entitled to your spin even if it is not what Plato was saying. If it was, there would be nothing profound about it.

2. Keep at the back of your mind in these discussions that I remain agnostic on existential matters.

3. Sometimes I tire of the high horse materialists tend to climb and the way they tend to mock everyone and every view which suggests something more to reality than matter. Your caveman pun at the end is tiresome in this regard.

4. Citing Plato was at all events a mere analogy. Let's move on to the other points.

Sorry if I came off as condescending, that was not my intention. And the pun was supposed to be light-hearted jab, no offence meant.

DeepSight:
Let me start by saying that the idea that the world is a mere "shadow" or "reflection" of a kind is an old one in history, philosophy and indeed religion. Plato's Allegory of the Cave springs to mind in this regard, where he describes a scenario where some men are imprisoned in a cave all their lives and only ever see the shadows of real beings passing by outside the cave.

Plato’s Allegory of the Cave describes a group of prisoners chained in a dark cavern, facing a wall where they see only the shadows of objects carried before a fire behind them. Having known nothing else, they mistake these flickering silhouettes for reality itself. When one prisoner is freed and dragged into the sunlight, he is initially blinded and pained by the brilliance of the true world, eventually realizing that the Sun is the source of all life and truth, while the cave was merely a dim reflection. However, upon returning to the cave to enlighten his peers, he is mocked and rejected, as the prisoners prefer the comfort of their familiar illusions over the difficult ascent toward objective knowledge.
---Culled.

Indeed the same idea of the illusory nature of the world is ubiquitous in religion as well. The Holy Quran describes the world as a shadow. Al-Hadid Surah 57:20. And so does the Holy Bible - 1 Chronicles 29:15.

Lemme tackle this bit first.

I have no qualms in seeing humans generally as being analogous to the men in the cave. Why? Because we don't know all there is to know about the universe as a baseline therefore not everything would be clear to us. Then add to that, our brains have limited processing capacities. That is easily provable. I remember the basketball and the bear experiment where people are asked to focus on a group of people passing around a basketball and told to count how many passes were made. At the end they are asked if they also noticed a man in a bear suit who shuffle dances behind the group passing th basketball. Most people don't and would even deny such thing occurred until they playback the video and quite clearly there is a man in a bear suit shuffle dancing. Our brain makes these shortcuts to keep us going even with its limited capacity so indeed we cannot grasp all the information we receive all at once. But we have now mitigated some of these hortcomings with our progress in science and technology so we don't have to rely on only our limited brains and senses.

However I think the allegory more properly describes people like you and others who see these shadows and see all sorts of monstrous things which could be explained down the line as nothing of such even if at the time there isn't enough information. You more readily leap to these fantastical explanations for the shadows. In time past we thought it was the gods hurling thunder and lightning in the sky. Today we know that isn't the case. Why then should we continue to behave like the ancients who didn't have what we have in terms of science and technology. Why can't we channel our energy to properly finding and understanding these shadows, these missing bits of information which would clarify what we are seeing. I no longer like to leap to any such fantastical explanations since I deconstructed my previous faith so maybe it is just me.

In conclusion, saying the world is illusory just because we don't have all the information is just plain wrong. We can both acknowledge the objectivity of the world around us and our limited capacity to perceive it without devolving into caveman (pun intended) ideology.

Olu1000:
If a wife blocks her husband & his family members from viewing her status , is it enough to initiate a a separation or divorce? Please kindly advice

I don't think that is reason for separation or divorce but a serious conversation needs to happen between husband and wife.

DeepSight:
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Pick one point to start with and we take it from there.

Alright will do.

DeepSight:
Dear LordReed, following our discussion here -

https://www.nairaland.com/8617978/real-truth-world-13-years

I promised to open a new thread to specifically discuss the idea that we live in a simulation.

So here goes.

Let me start by saying that the idea that the world is a mere "shadow" or "reflection" of a kind is an old one in history, philosophy and indeed religion. Plato's Allegory of the Cave springs to mind in this regard, where he describes a scenario where some men are imprisoned in a cave all their lives and only ever see the shadows of real beings passing by outside the cave.

Plato’s Allegory of the Cave describes a group of prisoners chained in a dark cavern, facing a wall where they see only the shadows of objects carried before a fire behind them. Having known nothing else, they mistake these flickering silhouettes for reality itself. When one prisoner is freed and dragged into the sunlight, he is initially blinded and pained by the brilliance of the true world, eventually realizing that the Sun is the source of all life and truth, while the cave was merely a dim reflection. However, upon returning to the cave to enlighten his peers, he is mocked and rejected, as the prisoners prefer the comfort of their familiar illusions over the difficult ascent toward objective knowledge.
---Culled.

Indeed the same idea of the illusory nature of the world is ubiquitous in religion as well. The Holy Quran describes the world as a shadow. Al-Hadid Surah 57:20. And so does the Holy Bible - 1 Chronicles 29:15.

The Question of Reality

Now the question is just how "real" our reality is. At this juncture I would like to correct your notion of illusion. You should note that even a hallucination has some reality to the extent that it is an experience. Even a video game has some reality to the extent that it is experienced. Thus it seems to me that when you place the test as asking one to jump off a building and see the result, you are missing the point. That we are having an experience in this world of some kind or the other is beyond cavil, the question is just how substantial in reality that experience is. For me, it is clear that we cannot proceed without establishing what we mean by something that is properly real.

The definition I work with is something that exists in substance by itself as opposed to something which is only put on: as opposed to a set of images, feeling or sounds which are cast before the experiencer merely to experience and which can be removed in the same way as one may wake from a dream, or one may remove a VR Headset, or one may come out of a video game or a movie or the like. It is my contention that this life is similar to a contrived set of experiences cast before us but lacking in the substantiality of its own base realness.

You have to ask yourself, for the day is surely coming, when Virtual Reality technology will be so advanced as to be completely indistinguishable from our reality - you have to ask yourself if such VR experiences will thus be "real." You see, in such VR experiences there will still be cause and effect just as jumping from a building and falling down, and you could even be made to feel pain therein.

Now, let us examine the fundamental argument for Simulation Theory.

Simulation Theory

What is Simulation Theory?

Simulation theory is the philosophical and scientific hypothesis that our entire reality—including the universe, Earth, and all conscious beings—is actually an artificial construct, such as a highly advanced computer program. Rooted in Nick Bostrom's 2003 "Simulation Argument," the theory suggests that if a civilization achieves the "post-human" stage of technological maturity, they would likely have the computing power to run "ancestor simulations" indistinguishable from reality; therefore, statistically, it is more probable that we are living in one of many simulated environments rather than in the original "base" reality.
----Culled.

Think about the above. It is logically sound and rationally consistent. The statistical likelihood of us living in what would be "base reality" is close to zero. This is something that many serious thinkers understand and acknowledge and thus I wondered at the slight edge of mockery with which you seemed to be approaching the subject in the other thread.

As argued by Philosopher Nick Bostrom: If any civilization eventually develops the power to run "ancestor simulations," they will likely run millions of them. This means there would be millions of "fake" realities and only one "real" one, making the odds that we are in the original "Base Reality" about one in a billion.

Other Arguments for a Simulated Reality

Binary Code: In the other thread, I showed you the discovery of binary code in the background of our physical universe. You and others have interpreted it to mean that the scientist was merely describing reality using binary code. This is not the case at all. The reason that there is that binary code similarity is because he actually saw in the base background of the physical universe repeating patterns in binary form. The fact that he then describes them as such does not take away from the fact that those patterns exist. Dr. James Gates Jnr explained that he found "doubly-even self-dual linear binary error-correcting block codes" embedded in the theoretical equations that describe the universe.

But beyond this, let me extract for you other key arguments -

Beyond the binary code discovery by Dr. James Gates, the most prominent scientific argument for a programmed reality comes from the field of Digital Physics, specifically centered on the idea of Computational Efficiency. The strongest suggestion today isn't a single "smoking gun" like a line of code, but rather a series of "coincidences" in physics that mirror how we optimize modern video games.

1. Quantum "Lazy Rendering" (The Observer Effect) In high-end video games, the computer doesn't render the entire world at once; it only "draws" the room the player is currently in to save processing power. Physicists like Max Tegmark and Nick Bostrom point out that the Observer Effect in quantum mechanics works exactly like this. A particle exists in a blurry state of "probability" (the wave function) until someone looks at it, at which point it "collapses" into a definite state.
----Culled.

The Double Slit Experiment

This here is where I bring in the double slit experiment. I was shocked to my bone that you claimed it had nothing to do with consciousness. The experiment is well known to have unveiled the way outcomes change based on whether there is conscious observation or not. Your arguments about instruments are neither here nor there for always the instruments were only aids for observation by conscious beings. And it remains puzzling till this day how that "observer effect" works out in quantum physics. However it strongly suggests that our reality is only rendered before us upon observation and thus that it is not intrinsically there - thereby destroying your claim on object permanence. And yes sir, I say this as an adult and not a child and the scientists who discovered all these were not children either.

The object permanence you observe is obviously a built in factor of the program, just as if you store something somewhere in a video game, you will return to meet it there when you log in. This does not mean that the thing was anywhere there or anywhere in fact while you were logged out. It was not.

I will post separately on the double slit experiment in order to nail the point that conscious observation was central to outcomes and this alone hammers home the point that this reality is an artificial construct.

2. The Universe's "Pixel Rate" (The Planck Scale) In a digital world, you can only zoom in so far before you hit a pixel—a minimum unit of space. In our universe, there is a theoretical "smallest" possible length called the Planck Length.T he Sim Argument: If the universe were truly "natural" and analog, you should be able to divide space infinitely. The fact that there is a hard "resolution limit" suggests our reality may be discrete (made of bits) rather than continuous.
----Culled.

This is why I mentioned how our reality is pixelated. Zooming in one can see that it is so constructed in bits. This again is a pointer.

3. The "Processor Speed" (The Speed of Light) Just as a computer processor has a maximum clock speed that limits how fast information can travel across a circuit board, our universe has a universal speed limit: the speed of light.

4. The Mathematical Universe Hypothesis: Max Tegmark, a cosmologist at MIT, argues for the Mathematical Universe Hypothesis (MUH). He notes that the deeper we look into reality, the more the "physical" stuff disappears, leaving only mathematical structures behind. The Argument: If you look at a video game character, they look like a person, but they are actually just a collection of numbers and equations. Tegmark argues that since our universe is perfectly described by math, it may literally be a mathematical structure (or a program) rather than a physical thing that math just happens to describe.
-----Culled.

Let me leave these as my opening arguments on this matter. Further down the line I will introduce other arguments, some may be scientific but beware that I will also dive into the metaphysical and philosophical in discussing this matter.

But before I close this post I must comment on your argument that there doesn't exist enough energy to create the simulation that is our world. Are you telling me that you know the sum total of all energy available in the universe or even all reality? I pointed out to you not only that it is impossible for a being within any given reality to know the level of energy it takes to render that reality, it cannot possibly even know the kind of energy.

It surprised me that this was lost on you because it is as simple as saying you cannot assess or access what is outside your universe, or can you? It is utterly impossible and inconceivable.

One thing for sure is that we are experiencing this reality be it real or artificial so somehow or the other sufficient energy exists to have presented it. The trouble with your supposition is that the particular calculations of scientists in terms of how they would believe a virtual reality such as this can be rendered must be the way it is in fact done, which is nothing but ridiculous assumption.

Over to you for now.

cc: OurTruth, SporaD8, Kayouzka, triplechoice,

Nice one bro but its kinda of a gish gallop. The discussion on any of these points may need a thread by itself. Maybe you should break them up so we can discuss them 1 by 1.

Nnamdipapa:
So I had the most insane experience last December. Something that still makes my heart race when I remember it.
I was in Nigeria, just jejely making transactions from my foreign accounts, when suddenly all my accounts were blocked on suspicion of fraud. Just like that. No warning.
I called the fraud department at Scotiabank, fully expecting to clear things up in five minutes. After all, I passed every single authentication question. Everything. Then the agent calmly told me I had to appear physically in Canada to verify my account.
I laughed at first. I told him I was in Nigeria. How exactly did he expect me to fly across the Atlantic in the middle of winter just to “verify” myself?
Before I could even process what was happening, my online banking access was shut down completely. These people had already concluded that I should be living in Canada.
That was how my Christmas plans scattered.
I started searching for the cheapest ticket I could find. After hours of looking, I found a United Airlines flight transiting through Dulles Airport in Washington. 11:59pm on Christmas night. About $1,200.
I tried booking with my foreign cards. Nothing went through. My location in Nigeria was now suspicious everywhere. I had to call United directly on the 24th to book manually. Return date: December 30th.
I was pained. Deeply pained.
It would have been my first Christmas in over a decade without snow. No shoveling. No icy wind. Just Lagos vibes. Nigeria sweet, I swear.
But instead, by 7pm Christmas night, I was heading to MMA airport.
We landed at Dulles on the morning of the 26th. As I stood in line for border control, fear gripped me. I was thinking about all the negative things I’ve said about Trump online. I was convinced they would scan my social media and drag me into one interrogation room.
When it got to my turn, the officer asked one simple question and waved me through.
Just like that.

Three-hour layover. Then off to Toronto.
Because of extreme weather warnings in Calgary, I decided not to continue there. We landed at Pearson International Airport in Toronto around 8pm.
I had to wait for missing luggage from the next flight. Retrieved it around 9:30pm.

Then I made the mistake of trying to save money.
I searched online and found a room in Etobicoke for $45 per night. In Canada. In December. Red flag, but my mind was on budgeting.

Outside, it was -12°C. Windy. Dark. Brutally cold.
I took a cab to the address.
The moment we pulled up, my spirit dropped.
The house looked abandoned. The street was dead silent. No movement. No life.
I knocked. A groundsman opened and led me inside.
Then I entered the room.

That was when my night turned into a horror movie.
There was another man on the bed beside mine. Unkempt. Dirty. Lying down, staring into his phone and laughing hysterically. Not small laughter. The kind that makes your spine freeze.

Aye mi!

How was I supposed to sleep in the same room with a complete stranger behaving like that?
The room was dark. Only light from the TV and his phone screen. He didn’t greet me. Didn’t acknowledge me. Just kept laughing and scratching himself aggressively.
Outside, snow was falling heavily. Temperature dropping toward -16°C.
And guess what? I didn’t even come with a winter jacket. This trip was never planned.
I told myself I would endure till morning and check into a proper hotel. I dropped my briefcases, brought out my laptop to finish some client work.
Then I saw something.

The guy started scratching himself violently. Almost desperately. Still laughing.
Kilode?!

As I sat there, uneasy, I suddenly felt movement on my sleeve.
I looked down.
A small brown bug was crawling up my jacket… heading toward my neck.
In that split second, my childhood flashed before my eyes.
Growing up in face-me-I-face-you, I battled bed bugs. I know them too well.
I slapped it instantly. Crushed it. Rubbed it between my fingers.
Then I lifted my hand to my nose.
ALAS MY PEOPLE… IT WAS THE UNMISTAKABLE SMELL OF A BED BUG.

I didn’t think twice.

I grabbed my bags and ran out of that house into -16°C snow without a winter jacket.
Yes. I chose freezing over infestation.
Outside, it was 10:40pm. Snowstorm. Wind slapping my face. No idea where I was going.
I ran across the street and entered a shawarma store just to escape the cold.
From there, I called an Uber to the nearest Walmart. It was closing at 11pm. I had less than 20 minutes.
I was already paranoid. I felt like bugs were crawling all over me. I needed new clothes immediately.
By pure luck, they let me in at 10:50pm.
I ran to the winter jacket aisle. Grabbed a heavy coat, toque, gloves, winter socks. I didn’t even check prices.
After paying, I took another cab back to Pearson Airport.

That night, I slept on a bench.
Actually, I didn’t sleep.

I emptied my entire bag on the airport floor. I was shaking. I was inspecting every single item. I even considered dumping all my clothes in the trash.
I called the woman who rented the room to me and threatened to report her to Health Canada.
The audacity of this woman…
She said maybe I was the one who brought the bugs.
Imagine that.

Anyway, that was just Day 1.
Four days of hell followed before I finally escaped back to Lagos.
I couldn’t wait to smell Nigerian air again.

(To be continued.)

I have never encountered bedbug and I never want to encounter it. Me too I would have run away from that place.

triplechoice:
Hehehe

It is "worse" because of the way he is describing it.

Please search for this book.

"The holographic universe" by Michael Talbot.

This book started it all for the general public. If you read it, you will understand better what he is trying to explain all this time.

Like I pointed out to my bro DeepSight some of these guys are just regurgitating what they have no proper understanding of. I just took a cursory look into the holographic principle and it is far from the half baked gruel he was spitting out.

Lemme read some more.

Firstcitizen:
If he gets 200k he should thank his stars

For the iPhone alone he should get more than that. That's if he wins though.

alphonsoolajide:
https://eyesoflagos.com/2026/02/18/odumodublvck-n2bn-assault-suit-adjourned/

Even if he wins he won't see anywhere near N2 billion as judgement. As long as the damage is not a lifelong one I doubt it will be more than N10 million.

immortalcrown:
Answer my first questions. I already answered your first question.

No you didn't, you wrote what a wristwatch is for but that doesn't answer my question. You need to tell me what the SPIRITUAL or HEALTH benefits of wearing a watch are.

It is even worse than I thought. LoLz.

DeepSight:
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Morning able sire. I have a tasking day but it will be the highlight of my day. I think it's very interesting.

Your use of the word "illusion" though, seems out of sync with what we are talking about. I will explain.

I found the paper

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/physics/articles/10.3389/fphy.2025.1561873/full#s5

This link takes you straight to the conclusion but you can scroll up to go through the rest of it. It's a well written and engaging paper but if you read nothing else in it please read all of the conclusion.

I must humble brag that I reached my conclusion of the astronomical energy cost before I even knew this paper existed.

Found where I said it in 2019

LordReed:
I don't accept the logical path this conclusion follows hence I don't accept the simulation theory. Just the energy required to maintain such a simulation should be incomprehensibly prohibitive.

This paper is 2025.

triplechoice:
What exactly does the "here and now" refer to as you have used it?

Is the "here and now" not part of the same world you say is an illusion?

The concept you're discussing is something I'm very familiar with, but which you have greatly misconstrued, hence the reason both you and Lordreed are talking past each other

You don't seem to realise that what you've described about our world is not only outlandish, but actually points to the opposite of what you're trying to explain. It is why he asked you to try jump from a 16th storey building to prove it.

Your description suggests that since the world is an illusion, those of us living in it could simply walk through walls easily like in a dream. But this is not what happens. The reason is that the world exists as a creation guided by definite laws which make that impossible

The world is not an illusion as long as it continues to exist. However, there are two main reason people describe it as illusion.

The first, is the belief that the universe emerged from "nothingness" and will one day return to it. I call it belief because this isn't a settled fact, but a view held in certain quarters, including some scientific interpretations

The second, is that our perception of reality is incomplete. We don't perceive the world as it is, but only as we're equipped to perceive it. The colour a "red" apple, for instance, isn't red in itself. It reflects certain wavelengths we interpret as red. In this instance, the perception is real, but it's not the full reality of the object.

So, the world is both real and not real, real because it exists, not real in how we perceive and relate to it. That's very different from referring to it as illusion you could simply walk through , which is what you described but not conscious of.

Once again you cut to the heart of the matter. I thank you for that.

I think I thought I glimpsed his characterisation of illusion as the second part of what you described but he blew it off so I assumed he is insisting it is a dream world which he can traipse through like Alice in Wonderland.

immortalcrown:
A wrist watch tells time. Can a tattoo tell time? Doesn't time have both spiritual and physical benefits? What is the spiritual benefit of tattoo?

What is the spiritual or health benefit of wearing a wristwatch?

You don't need a wristwatch to know the time.

immortalcrown:
The arguement about a Christian drawing tattoo is like the argument about consumption of hard drugs. Some consumers of hard drugs can resist indulging in crimes. But over 98% of those who consume hard drugs are into one crime or the other, and had drugs are harmful to the body. Should you now encourage people to consume hard drugs because consumption of hard drugs cannot be proven to be a sin? Over 98% of people who get tattoos are into one vulgar lifestyle or the other and the tattoo is harmful to the skin. Therefore, why are we arguing about whether it is right or wrong for a Christian to get tattoos? Taking shisha is not a sin. But shisha is harmful to the body and over 98% of those who take shisha are into vulgar lifestyles. BBL is not a sin. But over 98%, if not 100%, of the ladies that do BBL do it for seduction and BBL is harmful to the body. Will you encourage Christians to do BBL because BBL is not a sin in the Bible? Have you asked yourself why many people who got tattoos before becoming Christians try to remove the tattoos after becoming Christians? The answer is simply because those people are no longer proud of both the inspiration and the meaning of the tattoos on their skins.

What most of the ladies that do BBL are known for proves what inspires BBL and what BBL can lead to. What most consumers of hard drugs are known for proves what inspires consumption of hard drugs and what the consumption can cause in most cases. What most of the people that get tattoos are known for tells what inspires tattoos and what a tattooed skin can attract in most cases. This is reality, not profiling. So, why are we arguing about whether it is right or wrong for a Christian to get tattoos? Do not just look at tattoos on human skin, look at the foundation of tattoos.

What is the spiritual or health benefit of tattoo? If there is none, Christians should not get tattoos. Getting tattoos before becoming a Christian is different.

Tattoo is not a sin. But it is unsuitable for Christianity. Those who support Pastor Kingsley just because tattoo is not a sin should try to prove that tattoo is godly.

As it cannot be proven to be a sin, it equally cannot be proven to be godly. Therefore, what is the essence of you getting tattoos after becoming a Christian?

It is not just about a Christian getting tattoos. Christians are expected to live an examplary life. A Christian can get tattoos and still be able to control himself without indulging in the sinful things that most of the people that get tattoos are known for. But a Christian getting tattoos can cause those looking up to the Christian to deviate because by the time those people get tattoos,.those people will not be able to control themselves over the sinful things that an average person with tattoos indulge in.

What is the spiritual or health benefit of wearing a wrist watch?

FxMasterz:
Okay, thank you.

Have a nice day.

Wish you same.

FxMasterz:
That's alright. If that makes you happy.

I've passed the level of arguing with people who know next to nothing about this life.

Abegi put a sock in it. We are past your level of nonsense trust me bro approach. You always say fake stuff that you can never defend with facts.

FxMasterz:
Na su sabi.

I can't be arguing with you.

Can never argue facts because you don't have any. I can screenshot the entire TST or CoS website and you won't find anything like that but you just say anything you like. Na wa.

Omooba77:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/obituaries/rev-jesse-jackson-civil-rights-activist-dies-rcna42408

End of an era.

Valar Morghulis. May he Rest in peace.

FxMasterz:
Lol.

So, their website is where all their activities are found? Get back to me when you visit their temple and return.

Satan is the god of satanists. Infact, he calls himself the Almighty God in their coven. They revile Yahweh and Jesus, and preach vehemently against Christianity.

You can't know the spiritual world like I do. I see atheists as ignorant and naive people who don't know what's in the world around them.

I can't be arguing with you on this. Go make your own findings. And don't come here tellling me about their website until you can show me that their website also indicated they make human sacrifices and drink blood.

Oga stop expounding on your ignorance and show me where you got this information from. Abi na you don visit their temple before?

Christians and making up shïtə just to discredit other beliefs are like 5 and 6.

FxMasterz:
What do you know?

Satanists call Satan god.

That's who they worship. That's why they're satanists.

You are projecting your own ignorance.

Go to the Church of Satan or The Satanic Temple website and show me where they call Satan their god.

FxMasterz:
Just that the god of satanists is satan. They refer to no other entity as god except Satan.

Except that is PATENTLY FALSE.

Userr:
Most atheist are from orthodox back ground where the manifest presence of God Is not felt and raw miracles have not been seen, therefore this one's will need deeper faith to believe. Most atheist try to question the authenticity of the bible but no books is accurate aligned and preserved like the Bible especially with the discovery of the dead sea scrolls. again Jesus does not force himself into the heart of any man he only knocks ready to heal and provide Peace

Dead sea scrolls say nothing about Jesus.

IbileIfe:
The Satanic Reports in Epstein's Files Will Shock The World.
Biblical facts are coming to pass before our very eyes.

The word Satan appears 117 times in the Epstein files but the word god appears 22,092 times. Maybe the real bad guy is god.

Kayouzka:
You have offered no concrete arguments


Dreams are only has real has they last

When you dream at night doesn't it seems real
But when you wake up wouldn't you call it a dream

The difference between me and you is that I have woken up and you are still at sleep

The real world never ends
It is eternal

If it can't last forever then it is a dream.

You are the one making a giant boast but are as empty as a dried out gongoni.

The challenge remains, break the illusion for everyone to see or forever remain a loud empty barrel.